Alan Lacer's Ultimate Lathe Stand with David Lyell

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5 жыл бұрын

Build a professional-quality lathe stand that’s stable, strong and heavy
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@edgarcabatingan9883
@edgarcabatingan9883 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you David for your vlog it's been wonderful to me, I've learned how to make my project so much stronger with heavy load.
@COZUMELMAKO
@COZUMELMAKO 2 жыл бұрын
David, you should revisit this one now that it’s been out a while. Staying true to Alan’s original intended design is the key. The complexity of the splayed base is what makes this stand so unique and superior to other scrap wood stand videos that I am seeing. A long time hobbyist carpenter, I only recently got into wood turning. I just got my first lathe and wanted something more than just setting my gear up on a piece of plywood spanning two sawhorses. I weighed the pros and cons of buying some store bought metal stand vs. building my own. After much research I decided that Alan’s design was the one I wanted to emulate. The entire build was a learning experience with the bare minimum of tools for me (seriously… a 6-1/2” cordless saw, basic drill bits with cordless drill, and a speed square). The end result is almost identical to Alan’s original. Other than using oak rather than birch, leaving a slight lip around the trim at the top to keep parts from rolling off, and no hole for extended belts it is perfectly done by the original design. This piece really stands out with the final outcome being a functional yet classy piece of furniture which will last forever! Do your viewers a solid and go the extra mile building it the way it was intended.
@marklucia5785
@marklucia5785 Ай бұрын
Hi David. I agree with the statements above from cozumelmako. I have started a replacement stand for one that I build long ago, and chose to more closely follow Alan's design more closely because of the splayed legs and very strong joinery. Like you and didn't need to the motor shelf, and needed to adjust the height and width to meet my needs. I depened the bottom shelf to hold extra weight from sand bags as the original author suggested as an improvement, The duel fastener 3/8" on all stretchers is also a key to the unit's stability. Using single bolts and straight legs make a rectangle which will rack. The double fastener setup will result in an arrangement that is much less likely to rack. I know it seems impossible that tiny vibrations get amplified and result it chatter and tear out, however a comparison of a thin scraper tool and a much thicker one (I know, more expensive) when working even a couple of inches in side a bowl away from the tool rest will demonstrate. My $0.02
@rimofheaven
@rimofheaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I started turning about 10 months ago, and I can't get anyone to build a stand for me, so I'm just going to build it myself. I'll have to invest little by little in the proper equipment, but I think it is important to have a stand that is strong and intuitive. Like you, my needs will call for a longer stand to account for a bed extension I plan to invest in. Interesting to note that I purchased a metal universal stand and noticed that for the first time the vibration from the lathe reverberated throughout the room. I turned for 8 months just using a sturdy wooden dresser (I'm poor) and never experienced vibration throughout the room. I am now convinced that this wooden bench will do a better job due to its low center of gravity design, and also due to the birch plywood more naturally absorbing the vibration. I think the metal designs conduct vibration rather than absorbing it.
@wb_finewoodworking
@wb_finewoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Great build. I like the way the rails are joined to the legs. Using copper pipe looks like a great idea. I’m working on a workbench design and might modify that by using two bolts or a larger bolt, It looks like it would work and be easy to do. That type of joint also allows for tightening if the joint loosens up over time.
@Faber_Nox
@Faber_Nox 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say I built this lathe stand for a mini jet 1014 and I can say this is a great lathe stand. I modified the design by placing concrete blocks built into the lower shelf with a lid
@alvinomar6
@alvinomar6 3 жыл бұрын
that 5 degrees is everything.
@duanes6478
@duanes6478 2 жыл бұрын
nice video. You were easy to hear and concise with your directions. You get a thumbs up from me!
@imortaldeadead
@imortaldeadead 5 жыл бұрын
I really like this design, and with making it a little longer is perfect for my old Beaver/Rockwell that’s around the same size as your lathe Thank you for sharing
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors
@HeartlandMakesAndOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing my friend, I followed your directions and built this today. It has been a long long day, but I got it done. I was going to buy a stand for my lathe, It cost $150 for the lathe I just purchased. I decided it would cost less to build it plus if I did it like you did, it should be studier or possibly studier. I am pleased I made it, The copper pipe was a little bit of a slow down if you will but I got them all in. I did 2 bolts per rail like the directions you referenced in this video and linked to. otherwise, it went smooth, not sire if I saved any money since I had to buy almost all the materials, but I do have some scrap now for some other small projects I need to get done, so all in all it still is more for the money than buying the stand, and I made it. Thanks for sharing this video with us. I won't be doing a how to video, I will link others to yours. I will do a short video on the set up and links back to yours if someone wants to build their own. Thanks again my friend and have a blessed week. Dale
@OliWarner
@OliWarner 5 жыл бұрын
You can buy half moon nuts that do a similar job to the copper+nut, and are a staple of flat pack furniture that needs good long term strength (eg IKEA beds).. Most are really crappy cast aluminium though so shop around for some nice ones. Also, a washer or two in the bolt end to stop it grinding itself into the wood (initially and over time with vibration).
@heru-deshet359
@heru-deshet359 5 жыл бұрын
Great! I have that very same 1930s wood lathe. Glad I came across your video.
@stephenrees438
@stephenrees438 4 жыл бұрын
David, a couple of questions if I may. First, do you recommend this stand for a lathe that is 60” in length? If, so what modifications would you also recommend? Second, because of floor space constrictions I’m also considering narrowing the overall width of the stand. IYO what stability issues will that create? Thanks so much for you advice and input.
@coachingangels
@coachingangels Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@petermcmurray2807
@petermcmurray2807 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I am intrigued as to how you intend to change lathe speed without the hinge' As fro splaying the legs I agree the angles ar not necessary I am simply going to attach some 4X2 pieces wider than the straight leg at the base as the weight of sand will keep them firm. Helpfull thankyou.
@johnfithian-franks8276
@johnfithian-franks8276 5 жыл бұрын
The only change I would make is to put a steel washer on before tightening to stop the bolt from being pulled into the wood
@clarkgarber5495
@clarkgarber5495 4 жыл бұрын
He did
@antigen4
@antigen4 5 жыл бұрын
only one big criticism about the joinery - which i otherwise like - i hope your glue joint is strong since that rod is being placed right at the glue joint interface (between the two layers of plywood) - you might have made a better choice by using a solid wood like maple
@alansouthwood2874
@alansouthwood2874 4 жыл бұрын
you can use 1/4-20 x 1/2" barrel nuts
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! And they’re round, which is a better fit!
@josephKEOarthur
@josephKEOarthur 3 жыл бұрын
End result?.?
@simonprice1156
@simonprice1156 5 жыл бұрын
Great build, the link to the plans doesn't work where can i get a copy of the plans from?
@popularwoodworking
@popularwoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Simon, thanks. The link has been updated and is correct now. Here it is again: www.popularwoodworking.com/projects/ultimate-lathe-stand/
@goolieb
@goolieb 3 жыл бұрын
New link still doesn’t work.....
@shaunwhiteley3544
@shaunwhiteley3544 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry if a stupid question but I have seen so many KZfaq videos showing how glue nowadays is stronger than wood and when tested the wood snaps not the glue. So my question is why use the lag bolts? Thanks for video, thumbs up given 😀. Cheers
@jayrock4ya
@jayrock4ya 5 жыл бұрын
So they can tear it down and move it later on. I bet there gonna sell it or somthing lol. Not sold on the copper either!!
@georgewest153
@georgewest153 5 жыл бұрын
In this case Shaun, you do want just a bit of flex to keep it from doing just what you talk about. Not enough flex to be sloppy mind you, but a bit of flex. The bolts can do that. Gluing it up hard, it could leave the wood no choice but to split up.
@RickMcQuay
@RickMcQuay 5 жыл бұрын
I would just use screws since you're going to the added expense of using Baltic Birch. The joinery shown in the video is for particle board or MDF.
@thatellipsisguy8984
@thatellipsisguy8984 2 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering why, if you’re laminating everything, you can’t design in half-lap joints from the very start? Glue & screw and voila! Bombproof…
@moonduck82
@moonduck82 5 жыл бұрын
The link to the plans still gives an error
@popularwoodworking
@popularwoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Here's the link again, just tested both and no issues from this end, but let me know if you still can't access: www.popularwoodworking.com/projects/ultimate-lathe-stand/
@dennisp63
@dennisp63 3 жыл бұрын
@@popularwoodworking This link doesn't work either
@Fricker2448
@Fricker2448 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, are the plans no longer available on the website? I've been getting an error on the site for the last day or so.
@popularwoodworking
@popularwoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Just updated. Sorry for the confusion.
@georgewest153
@georgewest153 5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest you both use, and demonstrate using your machinists/sliding square angle to set along side of your drill when trying to drill out something that I suppose you want to appear to be a 90* hole. Both of the places you drilled through legs they went in on angles that could prove problematic. IE: watch what you've filmed before throwing it out there. I would use a standard HSS drill when drilling Copper, it would easily drill your plywood too, and wouldn't wreck the tips/wings of your nice Brad Pints. I agree with John Franks's comment to use a nice wide washers on the outside, so your bolt heads didn't draw through to the inside. The inset lower shelf is a smart idea. Keep trying, many are rooting for you......
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 3 жыл бұрын
And I can’t believe that this stand would be free of “racking” if you pushed sideways on it! There’s nothing there to serve as a diagonal brace or gusset to stiffen it up! A flat nut inside a round copper tube would be very unlikely to stay tight, so I don’t understand why they wouldn’t use half moon or barrel nuts since they’re rounded. I know I’m armchair quarterbacking here, but this project has an unbelievable number of questionable elements to it, and techniques used in construction! And it has no bearing on the outcome, but I can’t stand seeing the guy use a Sharpie on a woodworking project!
@pjclose8188
@pjclose8188 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you added a recent comment to this two year old thread. The stand in this video is a mess compared to the original. I built a faithful version for the exact same lathe shown in this video and it’s great. The shortcuts taken on the version shown in this video are the reason you never see the finished product. Missing shelf, 1/2 the fasteners, and no 15 degree angle would be a disaster. I was skeptical of the copper pipe fasteners, but after installing them I completely get it. Rock solid. The only issue I have leaving the top shelf flush with the legs is that shavings accumulate on shelf. Original stand is super functional, but this version is shoddy imitation just to put out a crappy video. Far from “ultimate.” I made the real one and this video is insulting
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 3 жыл бұрын
@@pjclose8188 I agree totally! The original looked pretty bulletproof! The one on this video, not so much! I’d say the producers shot theirselves in the foot in their haste to slap something together and get the vid out!
@paulalderson6920
@paulalderson6920 3 жыл бұрын
Very annoying "music" in background. Is it necessary?
@gsp911
@gsp911 3 жыл бұрын
Great project. But the problem is the price, $240 for a sheet of plywood alone. Approx $70 more than a new lathe table.
@COZUMELMAKO
@COZUMELMAKO 2 жыл бұрын
This was my initial thought too as I started costing out supplies needed. In the end it was a sense of accomplishment and well… basically a flat out insult to a true woodworker. Nonetheless, it IS a fun intermediate project when done like the original design! I suspect that I’ll have many years of great use when complete.
@drabusharr
@drabusharr 11 ай бұрын
Drilling straight 2+ inches and getting the hole in the center of a 3/4" copper collar is neither practical nor easily done.amy will ruin both the wood and copper Gotta be a better way.
@Mcphilsmith
@Mcphilsmith 5 жыл бұрын
To keep the nut from spinning, you can always just jam a screwdriver in there.
@Reviews-Tidbits
@Reviews-Tidbits Жыл бұрын
Kill the music and explain
@TheHIman
@TheHIman 4 жыл бұрын
it is the worst stand ever
@ShaukatHakim
@ShaukatHakim 5 жыл бұрын
“I will cut my legs to the required dimensions” 😫🤪😳 Why you people use to say, My legs, my top, my hole etc. Etc. My my my my my my my my 😂😂😂😂😂
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