Dont Condem Your Engine Over This Rattle

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Dont Condem Your Engine Over This Rattle

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This 1 litre ecoflex engine fitted to a 2010 vauxhall corse was not the original engine in the vehicle. it was a replacement engine but it came with worn out swirl flaps in the inlet manifold which sounded as if the engine was rattling..

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@allant53 Жыл бұрын

Well done Alan, Like you said it sounds like the engine is shot. I wonder how many owners have been told that they need a new engine by unscrupulous garages. Only for them to fit or bodge the swirl flaps. Keep up the good work, I now know that if I hear someone mention that their ecoflex engine is shot, I can tell them about the swirl flaps and the quick way to tell if it is them at fault by removing the vacuum pipe.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

😁

@user-iq7ch4dh9k 2 ай бұрын

Lovve u man

@malcelwell7209 Жыл бұрын

You got to be very careful when your flaps start playing up 😂 Your a very clever man Alan 👌

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

🤣lol

@Finglesham Жыл бұрын

You are a very thorough mechanic. Pity every car owner cannot use your services. My 2L Duratec is still quiet at 79,000 miles anyway. But I will listen.

@rickietatum4319 Жыл бұрын

my 2ltr duratec is at 178,000 miles and has no issues at all.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

thanks finglesham

@bazza23451 3 ай бұрын

I cant thank you enough, I took my car with this very problem today to a mechanic he spoke as if I should scrap it. My beautiful 2010 corsa ecoflex was in tears, until I went down a d pulled that pipe off and yipee the noise went, I will get a new inlet manifold fitted asap though.

@coopers4491 Жыл бұрын

Had the same problem with my mk3 mondeo but put a small bolt in the pipe ! Daughter had the same problem with her corsa so plugged that one !!! No other flaps are flapping thank god 👍👍👍👍👍👍 great content Alan!!!!

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

😁

@wmsstuff271 Жыл бұрын

How are those 2 motors going now mate? Any difference in fuel consumption or other problems? Did they pass emissions test on the MOT ok?

@coopers4491 Жыл бұрын

@@wmsstuff271 both passed emissions and mk3 now sold ,Ive now got a mk4 scti 2 ltr mondeo petrol turbo !!!

@wmsstuff271 Жыл бұрын

@@coopers4491 Cool. I just bought a mk3 with 30k miles on it. Gonna try deactivating these flaps on it. The noise is quiet but still annoying

@liamcerqua3544 Жыл бұрын

@@wmsstuff271have you done it yet and have you noticed any fuel dropping . As my Corsa been doing it a while and is very loud now

@petebissell8400 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alan thank god you put this on you tube i had a 1ltr on a 14plate corsa you have proved me right this thing is ratting like a .... thanks mate for that Pete

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

cheers pete

@shanebrookes1878 Жыл бұрын

Never knew that always put it down to timing chain knackered!! Thanks Alan! I’ll check that next time I get one in

@samwack3146 Ай бұрын

Thought my car needed new timing chain when i heard that noise thanks to you ive just unbooked my car from the garage appointment 😂👍🏻

@vuyisilekwababa4358 Ай бұрын

We changed the hydraulic lifters.. but still it the sound didn't disappear

@Roverturbo Жыл бұрын

Swirl flaps are normally for duel length manifolds. Long inlet runners are good for torque, but not so much for rpm. So the ecu adjusts the flaps to create long and short lengths to suit rpm, load.

@alphaomega5721 Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's correct. The dual length runners in the inlet manifold enhance torque. Incidentally Mitsubishi had this in their 3.5l V6 petrol and the butterfly valves were brass with brass screws. Over time they come loose and you end up with brass screws going into the cylinders. Brass is incompressible..... For ensuring no wallet shocks, we removed the valves.... Other problem with the Vauxhall as shown in the video is that it'll draw in false air through the worn shafts/holes and make the car run lean, maybe even sending some horrible O2 codes and getting on a wild goose chase. If it was my car I'd disconnect the mechanical link, seal up the manifold holes and be done.

@dazzahaywood3298 10 ай бұрын

Wow just sat wondering how many people have actually scrapped a perfectly good engine because of this tappin bet theres a fair few.. thanks for some great information

@martingreen7239 Жыл бұрын

nice one. would come to me as “mechanical” from auctions, this is how we make the big bux. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 well played brother.

@nothingmuch.3014 Жыл бұрын

I believe these 'twinport' flaps are fitted to these Vauxhalls, to enable greater use of EGR. Therefore reduced emissions

@rpwhite05 Жыл бұрын

Mate you’re a genius you need promotion, can fix fords blindfolded with one arm, can use tech and make content, can also fix Vauxhall’s 😂 and some eye candy on a few vids 👌 pure genius. I could bore you about when I was a young trucker down your neck of the woods at the radiator grill ( Huntingdon) 🤣🤣 it was terrible but they had a strip show 🤣🤣 allegedly ( I was asleep in truck ) but I’m 46 now and been fire fighting for 22 years 😮 all the best amigo

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

🤣thanks rich, appreciate it

@sptvids 5 ай бұрын

That's exactly the same noise as what's on mine. Nice find, well done

@philipmaun5261 7 ай бұрын

Absolute legend, had this issue fir a few years, was always wondering when it would blow up.. problem soon to be solved.. 👍👌

@dannykimble7671 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your honesty well done.

@ROUTEPLANNERPAUL Жыл бұрын

Thata amazing alan ...I bet a lot of people out there would right there engine off.. I've heard a few of these corsas like this ..... Great detail pal 👌

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

thanks paul

@NeathVideos Жыл бұрын

I e done the same With my Mk3 mondeo,I took the manifold Off to replace the rubber pipe that splits and causes the revs to increase,I couldn’t get the old flaps out to replace them,so for now I’ve just pulled the vacuum pipe off,but for my MOT it will be replaced,as it may fail emissions- I am going to put a brand new Manifold on soon though

@stephencopeland238 Жыл бұрын

Unbloody believable!! Thank you so much for sharing

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

🤣

@chriscroucher98 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had it a couple of times on a corsa … but strangely only on the 1.0 3cyl… maybe the manifold is set up diffrent on the 4 cylinder … great Videos as allways Alan 👍🏻👍🏻

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

cheers chris

@dave-huston-dublin Жыл бұрын

That's nuts, Well spotted Alan.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

cheers 087mail

@RumpleXstillXskin 2 ай бұрын

I thought the swirl flaps only BMW ….they remove them because the engine will ingest them …game over…….good find 👍

@sparky1543 Жыл бұрын

Well done alan, a great vid for the memory bank.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍sparky

@jeffvaljean6030 Жыл бұрын

Wow mate that's amazing your right that could fool you into thinking that was an engine knock

@stevenburns989 Жыл бұрын

Nice to see the vids coming in.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

thanks steven

@TheMcooper17 Жыл бұрын

i had a 2014 corsa with this engine brand new 8 miles on the clock, didnt get this bad. since had a mk2 focus diesel, and now own a mk1 focus 1.6 petrol and a mk4 escort 1.6 petrol

@patkelly7999 Жыл бұрын

Great job Alan, very well done Sir👌👌👍🙂

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Cheers pat

@miketherefurbisher8000 Жыл бұрын

always a great video with you Alan!! Thanks

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

thanks mike

@marinusapeldoorn6631 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alan, I can not see what you have done exactly but when holding the screw, it appeared you were wanting to blank it off on the wrong side. Do blank it off on the engine vacuum suction side however. Otherwise you have now created a vacuum leak , which will arise when the solenoid is allowed by the ECU to let the vacuum pass through 😁Mixture problems will arise. Hope you did it all right. The safest way would be: Reattach the vacuum hose to the solenoid. Detach the hose from the vacuum actuator. Then blank off the vacuum hose. Leave the vacuum actuator unharmed, since apparently the flaps are in the correct position when the actuator is non vacuumized. Regards from NL

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

yes correct, thanks marinus😁

@denisbiggane6981 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alan & Marinus, my daughters 1.0 petrol corsa is having this issue. I want to do as you guys are saying, but before I do, can you tell me please: Did this ever cause a side effect or knock-on problem? (Pardon the pun with the term "knock-on"! 😂) And - am I correct in my understanding that you only disconnected the power fron the little vacuum actuator and remove the hose but leave it open ? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding. Thanks so much for the videos and the help - it's brilliant 👌👍 Denis

@marinusapeldoorn6631 Жыл бұрын

@@denisbiggane6981 denis, there is a solenoid and a vacuum actuator. The solenoid is the thing with the electrical wire connected to it. Leave the electrical wire on the solenoid and do not detach it. The vacuum actuator does not have an electrical wire. It only has a vacuum hose coming from the solenoid. In order to put the vacuum actuator out of service, you should detach the vacuum hose from the actuator. But you should blank it off as described above. I do not know any side effects when doing this, you should ask Alan about that. Hope this helps.

@denisbiggane6981 Жыл бұрын

@@marinusapeldoorn6631 That's perfect - thanks a million for the help 👍

@marinusapeldoorn6631 Жыл бұрын

@@denisbiggane6981 regards from NL 🤗

@paulfeatherstone7095 Жыл бұрын

Hello nice one Alan would not have thought of that ha

@pasdaymon680 Жыл бұрын

Cheers Alan good to know the info.i would have said engine too.i like when you have different makes of cars on the channel

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍pasday

@scooboy 8 ай бұрын

Great video and very informative , any mechanic on the planet would have bet his life that was a big end or small end goosed. Mental

@alan4x 8 ай бұрын

😄

@sebastian0107 8 ай бұрын

Amazing! You're a great mecanic!

@jameznm Жыл бұрын

Hhhmm very interesting, this must have caught out so many people.

@monkehbitch Жыл бұрын

My merc engined v6 chrysler diesel had knackered flaps, they were metal, I removed them and welded up the holes. Lost a bit of consumption, but I gained a bit of power, but lost low end torque.

@jamyphill Жыл бұрын

holy shit i just had timing chain sorted ( sounded like a chainsaw starting up so did need doing ) and it still sounded like this and thought my engine was screwed as i thought the timing chain would stop this sound if u dont mind the tap is it still ok to drive as is ? or could it lead to damage ?

@simonjohnhinton1938 Жыл бұрын

I had a mk3 2.0 mondeo and I changed the flaps in that manifold and it was a bit of a pain in the arse tbh. My mk4 I bought the complete manifold as it worked out cheaper than buying the flaps and gaskets seperate. I think the replacement flaps are plastic I'm not sure.

@josephhalwagy6435 Жыл бұрын

well explained mate. thank you for sharing

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

thanks joseph

@chrisbell-pctechnician3784 Жыл бұрын

Top info as always. See you in about 4 weeks.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

cheers chris

@garyc205 Жыл бұрын

already had a scrapyard engine by the looks of it. red paint is a dead giveaway.

@stephenegginton7590 Жыл бұрын

Great vid you learn something new everyday 👍

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

cheers stephen

@mediulnaturalfiresc9329 8 ай бұрын

the noise from the twinport is also when the engine is cold and when it is warm? I have a 1.4 xep, and it is noisy, whining, only when cold, the distribution and the gauges are changed

@johnchincotta1qwdb15 Жыл бұрын

Well done doctor Alan another patient cured lol.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

😁

@jothain Жыл бұрын

Holy S... I've never heard what bad swirl flaps sound and I've actually wondered few times that how the heck do you even know if they're going bad as it's a thing obviously in so many cars. I never ever thought it would sound like engine that's going to die within 1000km's 😁

@ukpotaparksontheair3670 Жыл бұрын

Daughter Had same car. Timing chain snapped. I rebuilt engine with new head then Sold it. Timing chain snapped again 6 months later. When I checked service history it had already had a timing chain fail before she bought it. So 3 chain fails under 70k miles. Absolutely ridiculous quality. . It also had this rattle. I disconnected flaps to keep it quiet.

@serviceteam8408 2 ай бұрын

do you know if the insignia 2.0 cdti could also have the same problem? THANKS FOR THE REPLY.

@Fritsvrolijk Жыл бұрын

driven the 1.3 diesel .Great car

@bartoszk4812 Жыл бұрын

You're like a Columbo Alan! Real detective 😜

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

😁

@haksu78 2 ай бұрын

2015 wife Opel Corsa was ticking and I drive it and ticking eds when motor braking.Evap valve ticking.

@stevenowens6416 9 ай бұрын

My Vauxhall Insignia 1.8 sounds like this and it has always annoyed but now I believe this could also be the issue on my car.

@johnmilner4667 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video I thought my engine was knackered saw this. Tried it tapping stopped. AMAZING THANK YOU. can I ask does it matter which end of pipe you blank with screw.. Thanks again 👍👍

@donwall9632 Ай бұрын

You know its not the flap making the noise right??? its more to do with the fuel/mixture etc due to the flaps being in the wrong position to where the ECU expects it to be. Hence the knocking like detonation sound or big end bearing sound..

@SimonBassington Ай бұрын

I have a friend with that exact noise on a 1.4 that looks like that engine with an extra cylinder. Although, if we pull that hose off the noise is the same. He has driven with this for a long long time and I’m thinking if the flaps could have come loose or something and flapping around in there without the control holding it back. How are your thoughts on that?

@MegaReddevil71 10 ай бұрын

Easy to condem the engine hearing that

@paulillingworth1242 Жыл бұрын

Bet loads of these cars been incorrectly scrapped for “knackered engine “ when it’s these plastic flaps.

@smallone9825 Жыл бұрын

Hi im stuck!! My vauxhall corsa 1.2 sxi sounds like an old diesel engine from the 80s do you know when a old taxi would pull up to collect you and you knew straight away cos of the noise, us it common my garage tells me nothing wrong but then today its juddering lising piwer then next minute its ok , dont think they both are attached but what could the latter be pls?

@markc7954 Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I hear something similar in 1.4 engine the miles very low it's not as loud as this but this has me wondering if its similar to what ur showing. Thank you for posting 👍

@ChrisWaterworth Жыл бұрын

If you can put up with the rattle will the engine be alright? Got one with the exact same rattle.

@paulas2610 2 ай бұрын

Yes this is a real problem with this petrol engine and other makes and models with swirl flaps thst have been constructed poorly. Worst of all with this engine it sounds just like a chain rattle.

@david.t6567 Ай бұрын

Hi Alan am have 1.6 petrol zafira eco flex am get same sound exactly 😮do no what’s wrong 😢 thanks

@123gavman 10 ай бұрын

Just had the same issue and I just tapped the star lock washers down very slightly and the noise has now stopped 🤞🏼

@johnredpath 2 ай бұрын

Great video Alan...do we see these swirl flaps on the corsa E

@abedkababjj8325 Жыл бұрын

You are amazing maaan finally I know the reason of my car ❤️😍😂

@austinlloyd9757 Жыл бұрын

You should have had the secatary too explain ,,would have been so funny 😆 🤣

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

🤣

@INWondeR Жыл бұрын

I have a different sound, which I now have found out is a lifter arm, so off comes the camshaft for the inlet side, so I can change that single lifter which is clicking on mine. Gonna do a complete chain shift as well, since I dont know when it's been replaced, and I need to do the oil pump at the same time anyway... Sooo yaaaiii... :D

@dachaextreme 8 ай бұрын

Ah man. Thank you!

@Rapid_GT 11 ай бұрын

That's a good thing to know, my 1.3 Diesel Corsa Ecoflex is making an odd sound but not that, mine sounds like a squeaking type noise when running or idle, sounds a bit like a fan belt would that needs tightening or something , a garage suggested it could be the turbo !

@shanu_yt2531 9 ай бұрын

Have u sorted it out I’ve literally got the same problem??

@Rapid_GT 9 ай бұрын

@@shanu_yt2531 yes, mine was making a funny noise which turned out to be the injector seals and the excess smoke / bad starting from cold was glow plugs and it wasn't cheap to fix :(

@bryanbishop975 9 ай бұрын

Nice find and cheap fix. Just wondering if now it will use more fuel ????

@alan4x 8 ай бұрын

chances are it will

@chasmcl42 Жыл бұрын

Nice one Alan 💯💯👍👍

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

cheers charlie

@dixiefallas7799 5 ай бұрын

Thanks that’s great!

@jaykent6645 6 ай бұрын

Hi Alan, thanks for sharing but at the start of the video u mentioned how important swirl flaps are in terms of better combustion and fuel economy, so assuming now the default to the open position permanatly, how has this effected the car fuel economy taking into account what u said at the start? Thank you again and a good find. Kind regards JAY

@alan4x 6 ай бұрын

hi, yes much higher chance of increased fuel consumption but alternative is to replace the inlet manifold

@matthewharrison7160 Ай бұрын

⁠⁠@@alan4xHi my Corsa is having this same issue so thank you very much for the video. How much do you think it would cost to replace the inlet manifold?

@bineeshkm7461 4 ай бұрын

You wont believe i am having the same issue on my corsa ecoflex 2012 model .can u update a video on how to change the manifold??will b really helpful

@alan4x 4 ай бұрын

I left the uk now, surely someone else on you tube will show that

@bineeshkm7461 21 күн бұрын

How you disconnected the hose btw.. i tried to diconnect but its so tight and sad to say i broke the connection.can you please tell me the name of that part??

@glyncooper1491 10 ай бұрын

Great video mate very interesting

@deanpollard122 Жыл бұрын

Great video ❤❤

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

thanks dean

@amadhashim5559 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alan Is the same thing with Vauxhall Astra 1.4 Sxi as well I’ve been told it is a timing chain or tappet lifters

@st200ol Жыл бұрын

Its probably for emissions reasons, leave it disabled and it may fail the MOT emissions test, either now or some point further down the road. If it were my car I would probably pay the extra for a new inlet manifold, as long as it wasn't crazy money. What am I talking about of course is crazy money, probably 500 quid for the manifold and 200 quid for fitting. :-)

@nothingmuch.3014 Жыл бұрын

They call it 'twinport'. The car closes the flaps over on half of the inlet ports, to allow it to use more EGR

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

🤣well just connect it back up for the mot test

@flateman3150 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2012 diesel ecoflex same noise even with the eco button on goes like shit off a shovel even at 98.000 mls ok its a little noisy just crank radio up still 60 -70ish motorway millage mpg as long as you keep on top of the dpf by 1 or 2 good hammerings up and down the motorway each week for 30 mins will keep it sweet but you must change the oil air filter keep tyres good advantage good millage no tax low insurance

@colinthompson420 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alan only you can help !! I have knock from the fuel cooler on my mk4 mondeo - it’s loud under the floor but not from the engine - the cooler has been replaced and so far two garages have never heard it before and can’t find a fault - the car drives great .It’s a 1.6 econetic.- any advice would be great thanks

@jlethal3304 9 ай бұрын

So in doing this are the Inlet flaps then in the Open or closed position? Tia

@kxrrzy 4 ай бұрын

What’s the name of that part

@missmichelle9989 Жыл бұрын

I’ve got the same problem with mine same car year and engine rattles on start-up . And sound like bottom end going . going to check mine tomorrow

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

the oil filter element in those corsas get blocked and sucked in causing oil starvation..might be worth checking that too

@el_you0999 Жыл бұрын

Alan great job awesome and very smart investigation u ve done . Wow you thought me something new Sir thank you Keep it up 👍

@vaclosimku602 10 ай бұрын

I had the same sound on my corsa. When disconnected vacuum pipe, sound disappeared, but I’m noticed rough idling, more like unstable rpm engine shaking . If I increase rpm till 1000rpm engine sounds great shaking disappears. When engine cold does not shake, just when warm up. How I can increase rpm? Or maybe I can do something else to sort out issue? When engine warm up rpm 750-800. I blanked vacuum pipe.

@Hassan-nv4nr Жыл бұрын

Hi. Can this cased a misfire in one of cylinder? If one of cylinder room closef?

@andsomeenery2964 Жыл бұрын

Had the exact same noise, turned out it was the water pump, replaced it and noise went.

@user-ic4np7jr7o 11 ай бұрын

Hi Alan, my corsa sounds exactly like that and the garage have told me that the engine is on its way out - the only difference is that mine occasionally misfires and then sorts itself out again. Could the manifold cause it to misfire randomly? Thanks

@AndreiHanceariuc 9 ай бұрын

Mine s got the same issue with missfire..did you find the issue with yours? I had a lot of different things told from different mechanics

@christyfur1162 Жыл бұрын

Alan.how did you first discover the swirl flaps rattling,was it using a stethoscope?

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

if you put your hand on the inlet manifold you can feel the tapping

@minimainiac1969 Жыл бұрын

When you disconnect the vacuum pipe do the flaps spring to the open position? Sounds like they do if you have full power. 🤔

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

yes they will all be fully open

@The-roman-muslim Жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope your well i need some advice , ive got a 2.0 vauxhall insignia petrol 58 plate , i can hear a rattle from the timing chain but previous owner changed it 40k miles ago , is this normal for the chain to rattle already ? I had a p000B code come up yesterday,? Any help would be appreciated

@tufferstaylor3454 Жыл бұрын

Did blanking it off last? my wife car has been making this noise for weeks now.

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

yes blanked it off and car has gone and never came back

@paulmoore4589 7 ай бұрын

When you repaced the manifold did it fix it?

@alanmurray1420 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant 👍🏼

@spe4rr171 3 ай бұрын

Will this work on the 1.2 litre corsa d? Mines making a similar noise

@LiteonONE Жыл бұрын

Hi I have a question about a fault code on a Ford mondeo 2.0tdci 2011. I have 2 fault codes on the HCM, B1A57;87 and B1A58;87. I have tried resetting the unit with forscan, I find no corrosion. What more could be the problem, any ideas?? I tried to Google it but I find no resolve

@tulakiriakidou3473 Жыл бұрын

The inlet manifold is not a mandatory part or the engine after All....

@user-ef7tq3eq6s Жыл бұрын

Hey Allan i have corsa 2011 auto i have done same thing but sound is still coming

@user-ef7tq3eq6s Жыл бұрын

And now my enguine is viberating

@Acolytes_ Жыл бұрын

@@user-ef7tq3eq6s close the vacuum hose with a nail or bolt

@robertj.4940 Жыл бұрын

Corsa e?

@kenrossaukrsa 4 ай бұрын

It’s the solenoid valve making the noise

@alan4x 4 ай бұрын

the flaps inside the inlet manifold are rattling

@user-pr8ld1tj5b Жыл бұрын

Got a similar noise on a Vauxhall zafira 1.6 engine. Could it be the same thing?

@danbarnes4069 Жыл бұрын

Hi Alan Just wondered if you work on Joe publics cars anymore? The ST220 is dripping like a b**** from the timing chain cover gasket and I'm after someone with big enough balls to do it. Let me know Dan

@alan4x Жыл бұрын

not really, too many company cars here to fix