Alaskan Old Believers

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15 жыл бұрын

Bob Dotson tells the story of the Alaskan Old Believers in Nikolaevsk.

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@malcolmbrown5331 6 ай бұрын

I had the good fortune to live in Nikolaevsk for more than 4 years, 1987-1991. I also have the good fortune to have Old Believer friends and relatives.

@user-qr1zh1nf3p Ай бұрын

А я с Волгограда тоже старообрядец

@kyriljordanov2086 6 жыл бұрын

The matushka owning a daycare isn't breaking with tradition. She is taking care of children, a good woman's work.

@MegaMikhy 4 жыл бұрын

Kyril Jordanov it is breaking old traditional believers New old believers tradition

@swatkins9391 4 жыл бұрын

"... a good woman's work" A woman's work is anything she wishes to do and nothing less.

@japonicaren 4 жыл бұрын

S Watkins A good 'gina' you got there my man.

@user-xd4fw5wy6m 4 жыл бұрын

Why would she break the tradition? I am an old believer and I have never heard of that. A woman should do whatever she aspires to!

@drtg101we7 3 жыл бұрын

@Boris Sitnikoff Are you an antisemite?

@guspapadopoulos945 4 жыл бұрын

I'm Greek Orthodox but l so very much love and admire my Russian Orthodox brothers and sisters in the faith. They suffered so much oppression from the satanic Bolsheviks, yet these peaceful, loving people have survived. God love them

@blacknwhitesalright Жыл бұрын

“The Satanic Bolsheviks,” please. It’s truly tragic that the proletarian revolutionary wave failed so quickly and was overtaken by Stalinist statist counterrevolution.

@fakemadereal 11 жыл бұрын

I love Alaskan history. It is so rich, but so unheard of.

@Miodrag.Vukomanovic Жыл бұрын

Because Americans don't want to remind you that it was originally Russian land.

@johncourtneidge 7 ай бұрын

Most interesting! Given Alaska's Russian past, I have wondered if Russian families, including Old Believer families had stayed when the US bought Alaska.

@khristophertaylor811 Жыл бұрын

I grew up in ninilckick Alaska with Russian Orthodox they're awesome people

@terrytzaneros8007 5 жыл бұрын

God prosper the Old Believers and the Amish. His blessings on both.

@patrickmartin8783 5 жыл бұрын

God won’t bless churches who go against his word and traditions of the one church he set up. This is modern and ecumenist way of thinking. Christ made 1 church. Not 30,000 conflicting churches

@sneedfeedandseed2410 3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickmartin8783 but which of the 30,000 conflicted churches is the right one?

@agathar7115 3 жыл бұрын

@@sneedfeedandseed2410 the Eastern Orthodox Church, which predates all others and has been unchanged since the time of Christ in dogma, Spirit, and practice.

@sneedfeedandseed2410 3 жыл бұрын

@@agathar7115 I don't know the english names for churches, but I guess the churches that have "orthodox" in their names would be the closest to god's teachings.

@HaraldSjellose 3 жыл бұрын

@@agathar7115 I thought old believers were the ones who preserved original practices, hence 'old believers'

@cannibalfan01 13 жыл бұрын

i met a group of old believer high school students in DC for a scholarship program one time, nice people

@lelandgrover8514 5 жыл бұрын

What a lovely community.

@TheCopticParabolanos 5 жыл бұрын

These people live simple, consecrated lives set apart from the godless secular spirit of the age, just as the Savior commanded. God bless them all richly.

@dioscoros 4 жыл бұрын

They're heretics according to you though (just sayin).

@sethl7078 4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Comerford The Russian Orthodox Church revoked the anathemas in 1970, and ask for forgiveness and reconciliation with the Old Believers

@dioscoros 4 жыл бұрын

@@sethl7078 Yes. But I wasn't responding to an Eastern Orthodox person. Look at his username.

@sethl7078 4 жыл бұрын

@@dioscoros Didnt recognize the name. Assumed he was Orthodox, not oriental

@TheCopticParabolanos 3 жыл бұрын

Seth L I respect them and their way of life irrespective of our ecclesiastical/theological differences. They seem far more blameless in their Christianity than I am. In my own tradition, we tend to be less rigid about historic divides between fellow Christians. Also, I’m not “Oriental,” I am of mixed Anglo and North African descent. Not a fan of the “Oriental Orthodox” moniker. It always seemed very artificial and contrived to me.

@Simple_Mind11369 7 жыл бұрын

beautiful.

@anamaaster 14 жыл бұрын

At first - it's very strange to see Russian's with ancient icons, clothes and other, but speaking ENGLISH !.. )) So, its very amazing !! Thank you )

@jajohnson7809 2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame the Old Believers weren't allowed to keep their traditions. Had that been the case, they probably would still be in communion with the larger Orthodox Church. Also, I own several Old Believer icons and cross pendants; they are stunningly beautiful. God bless these people.

@ingvarz7468 2 жыл бұрын

even today they're like the Amish people in Russia.

@Libbyfarm Жыл бұрын

the old believers were invited to rejoin the canonical church while keeping the outward expressions that were banned, and most communities did.

@nmiller4085 Жыл бұрын

Their tradition eventually eventually ended up being accepted by the Orthodox church. They were invited back in and today there are many Orthodox communities that still use the Old Believer liturgy and traditions.

@user-qr1zh1nf3p Ай бұрын

@@Libbyfarmспустя полтора века немыслимых гонений, вдруг время расставило всех на свои места

@paulsdancing5429 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing, Nikolaevsk has happy people.....

@lipovansoldbelievers4474 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks Very Beautiful

@troelspeterroland6998 5 жыл бұрын

It's really silly how those film clips of religious persecution in Stalin's Soviet Union are used to illustrate the persecution of Old Believers 250 years earlier.

@katherinetutschek4757 3 жыл бұрын

Probably because there's no footage from back then...

@troelspeterroland6998 3 жыл бұрын

That's true of course. But I don't like the tendency to use footage "for illustrative purposes" rather than as a source. Especially if it happens in news media.

@katherinetutschek4757 3 жыл бұрын

@@troelspeterroland6998 yeah, it can be kind of misleading

@Ettoredipugnar 13 жыл бұрын

There is no need for change.

@patrickmartin8783 5 жыл бұрын

Ettoredipugnar The Reforms were unnecessary yes, if anything the Russian liturgical books were older. But in a way, to keep unity between the orthodox churches, the reforms were helpful.

@swatkins9391 4 жыл бұрын

This chunk of floating space roch we live on has been changing since the day it was formed, Change happens to all and everything.

@agathakourtesis1244 Жыл бұрын

I am Greek Orthodox..and i like what i see..God bless..i remember my Grandma Live that life and evrithig was so beautiful..good memories..

@Raseneb 10 жыл бұрын

Well Veronika, Russian is their first language. It shows how hard they cling to their old ways, and until recently they didn't talk to anybody besides each other. The Amish are like that; some of them speak German better than English.

@gangasinghrathore4709 3 жыл бұрын

How are they doing today God bless these simple people

@julioantonionoronalamas08 11 ай бұрын

A good deed from JFK that I never heard of until now. Thanks for sharing.

@deannabugful 13 жыл бұрын

I used to make and wear that serafan dress, and the apron, too. It is simple and beautiful. I wonder if dresses will ever come back?

@brandess13 Жыл бұрын

Did you weave the centerpieces as well? That looks like the fun part to me!

@betterjustice6697 2 ай бұрын

I'm sure they will one day

@eldruidacosmico 3 жыл бұрын

God Bless them!

@darumadoll6615 11 жыл бұрын

Ты че дурень что-ли? Это самые настоящие Русские люди, такие какими они были до Раскола: семъи, дети, вера, труд, любовь и дружба. Таких-бы в России побольше, глядишь и выжили-бы...

@agathakourtesis1244 Жыл бұрын

Και στην Ελλαδα το ηδιο εγινε ..πολοι εμιναν με το παλιο ..ημουν πολυ μικρη και δεν καταλαβενα την γιαγγια μου οταν ενιστευε για της γιορτες εκανε νιστηα και με το παλιο και με το καινουργιο..μακαρι ολοι να πιστευαμε οπως αυτους ..

@darumadoll6615 11 жыл бұрын

Бог в помощь! May God help you!

@charlesdorey4343 8 жыл бұрын

Would this not be a good place for Agafia Lykov to live out her days?

@m.w.6526 6 жыл бұрын

I think she is content with her life in Russia, no matter how lonely it gets being alone.

@user-qr1zh1nf3p Ай бұрын

Агафья где родилась там только может жить

@TadeSLO 5 жыл бұрын

Old slavonic or old russian or slovene/slovenian are same languages like in Slovenia (first Lady Melania is from Slovenia) or in Alaska of Old believers! Slava slovenski arijski bratje in sestre

@Jem12345kor 3 жыл бұрын

Этот арийский бред и Перун-пердун никак не связаны со староверами. Мы веруем в Христа и Троицу. Неоязычество было придумано на Западе для захвата славян.

@Zapper-kq1zg Жыл бұрын

@@Jem12345korа что ты имеешь против дохристианской веры? Я согласен, неоязычество придумано, чтобы дробить людей, но то, что вы похабски относитесь к традициям предкам это тоже не есть хорошо

@Jem12345kor 7 ай бұрын

Дохристианское не осуждаю, это просто история, уважаю ее. Но максимально неаутентичная новопридумщина для неокрепших умов это просто "разводка для гоев"

@Jem12345kor 6 ай бұрын

Мнимое "арийство" не имеет даже общего с дохристианской веры. Если бы тут хотя бы мы имели дело с чем-то подлинным, к примеру дохристианской верой, то и было бы о чем говорить. Но эти лекалы 20 века, продвигаемые ЦРУ в славянский мир... 🤮

@annasimanovicki323 7 жыл бұрын

He is my uncle

@bnbcraft6666 6 жыл бұрын

Anna Simanovicki the priest?

@TheDaymos777 11 жыл бұрын

распев в храме отличный просто был

@TheNeeyang 3 жыл бұрын

These are more modern than the old believers in South America

@johncourtneidge 7 ай бұрын

Most interesting! Given Alaska's Russian past, I have wondered if Russian families, including Old Believer families had stayed when the US bought Alaska.

@susansuewwilliams 6 жыл бұрын

They speak Old Church Slavonic. They are actually no different than any Eastern Orthodox Christian, except they did not want to change to Modern Russian in their language, at home or in church. They wanted to keep the language of the Old Church Slavonic, which by the way in the lower 48 states many of the Russian Orthodox Churches still use in Divine Liturgy. Why does MSM always have to make a big deal about such things when it's really nothing at all; they are Eastern Orthodox as all of us, who are members of the One True Faith. MSM once again trying to disparage Russia and all that is Eastern Orthodox. Eastern Orthodoxy which by the way you have no understanding of, with your western roman christianality; yes protestantism came from western roman christianality. Not from the One True Faith, Orthodoxy.

@troelspeterroland6998 5 жыл бұрын

Well, Old Church Slavonic is their liturgical language but not the language of their daily lives. That's Russian.

@richardsellsaz6865 5 жыл бұрын

There were also numerous liturgical reforms that they reject of the ROC created in the 17th century.

@mihanich 5 жыл бұрын

Old church Slavonic has never been a spoken language among Russians. It came from Bulgaria in 10th century to Russia and has been alive only in books ever since. Their everyday language has always been a dialect if Russian. It's similar situation with Latin in western Europe.

@jajohnson7809 2 жыл бұрын

Thank God, some Old Believers returned to unity with the Orthodox Church. The rest are technically in schism, though they hold to Orthodox beliefs, kind of like the "True Orthodox" and "Genuine Orthodox" schismatics. Very sad, and I can't say I blame them for leaving considering the way they were treated.

@chelsealarry 11 жыл бұрын

They live in woodburn oregon too

@unknowned2480 5 жыл бұрын

I and E

@originalunoriginal4055 4 жыл бұрын

Those woman are covered similar to our Mother Mary (Jesus's mother) did.

@Sweety-ut8zw 4 жыл бұрын

Same as how muslims do

@bouillonqube8076 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sweety-ut8zw NO!

@RH-ls5od 3 жыл бұрын

I am part of that family the priest is also in Oregon

@brandess13 Жыл бұрын

My fathers last name was Yakunin. His father came from Kislovodsk to Calgary in 1927 or so. I’d love to hear more about your family history if you feel like sharing!

@ethiop_frum Жыл бұрын

The Old Believers are a schismatic movement of the Russian Orthodox Church. The reason for this phenomenon is Ukraine. In the XVII century, the Muscovite Kingdom, as the heir of Kievan Rus, expanded and could afford to return Kiev and the lands of Ukraine (this word means "Outskirts") under his care. However, by this time the Greek rite had become dominant in Ukraine, and with the Muscovite Kingdom the rite was different. For the sake of the return of Ukraine and the role of the great authority of the Constantinople rite, Russia went to the displacement of its ancient rite! This happened under Patriarch Nikon. Technically, not only was the rite different, work was required on translations and errors in the texts of the service, but ordinary people did not understand these translation errors, and the only thing that caught their eye was a "new rite". The dissenters became known as Old Believers

@brandess13 Жыл бұрын

Super interesting! Thank you for this information. I would be so grateful to hear even more.. I was born in the United States, but both of my parents are Ukrainian and Russian, however, their parents did not share much information, so I’m kind of starting from Ground Zero here. My dads last name is Yakunin. Great grandfather is author Ivan Nikolaevich Zakhar’in Yakunin. (he published nine books) which the Czar did not like and sent him to Yakutia.

@Jem12345kor 7 ай бұрын

Not the Oldbelievers are schismatic, but the Newbelievers(New "Orthodoxes", niconians), who broke away from the ancient Church of Christ. The Newbelievers were it, who banned their rightious ancestors and their orders they followed. The Oldbelievers are continuing the ancient Orthodox Church until yet and fo so until the second coming of Christ, while the Newbelievers took and copied many unchristian manners and customs from Papism, Protestantism and even from Islam, what not very likely leads to salvation...

@HELESPONTify Жыл бұрын

Trieste-Nikolaevsk(Alaska) great area of Slavic

@3o9afa 11 жыл бұрын

that was very interesting and I think they're more modern than The Amish

@Jem12345kor 7 ай бұрын

The believe, the customs are much more ancient, but some parts of lifestyle, exspecially about technologies, are much more mordern. One interessting fact is, that in the Russian Empire the most industrialists and merchants were Oldbelievers. Mostly they made the industrialisation in Russia(pre-soviet), kind of like the protestants in the West

@aniusaa1 14 жыл бұрын

prosta krasivo

@MikeHawksBig69 11 ай бұрын

the cooler amish.

@danielreutov1858 3 жыл бұрын

They should follow up on this story. Maybe not national tele, but these communities are changing pretty quickly. Come back to niko today. They probably talk about how accomplished the basketball team there is.

@sauvageaux 2 жыл бұрын

@simp2662 3 жыл бұрын

They have things in common with the Amish and Mennonites.

@yarnednomady5535 2 жыл бұрын

Barely

@aniish9857 10 жыл бұрын

А они говорят по-русски?

@kyriljordanov2086 6 жыл бұрын

ani ish Po starij ruskij.

@bouillonqube8076 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@cityplanconsultores2188 2 жыл бұрын

The old believers settled in several countries of America: in Brazil, in Uruguay, in Bolivia and also in the USA

@shtonker8 10 ай бұрын

Who's there Bishop?

@checktheplaylist101 3 жыл бұрын

The Tzar may have persecuted them but the Bolsheviks slaughtered them in the millions.

@brandess13 Жыл бұрын

My grandfather narrowly escaped after being held captive for a decade, arrived in Calgary in the 1920’s.

@apologiamixer Жыл бұрын

I got to know a couple in Alaska years ago who was kicked out of the Old Believers because they started reading the bible on their own. They decided that having a house icon was too much like idolatry, so they gave it back to the priest and he disfellowshipped them.

@carlosmante 11 ай бұрын

Let's remember.............Alaska was first of Russian Culture before being of English Culture, so those "Old believers " were only returning to their Fatherland, Alaska.

@MrDoremouse 11 жыл бұрын

You won't be wanting anaesthetic when you have a tooth out then ? PEACE :)

@nicky5683 7 ай бұрын

You cover this like its a bad thing....

@veronikabah9878 11 жыл бұрын

He's an American! How come that bishop has a Russian accent

@cipndale 7 жыл бұрын

Up to 1860 Alaska was Russian colony...

@ettoredipugnar6990 6 жыл бұрын

Hes not a Bishop . Hes an Archpriest

@sandro5535 6 жыл бұрын

They stay within themselves. Being a minination.

@esotericjahanism5251 6 жыл бұрын

San dro more of a tribe than a nation

@sandro5535 6 жыл бұрын

Needless impressive being how the west is falling. More and more of the west share fate with Detroit and they were like "hey if it aint broken dont fix it". Sadly they are Christians and those 3 Arabic religions are bad :/

@zteaxon7787 2 жыл бұрын

Jewish screeching intensifies. People living happily in a self-governed culture, community?

@thatlady7193 Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about?? Hasidic Jews do the same in Brooklyn !

@darumadoll6615 11 жыл бұрын

Sure, they even don't have same-sex marriage and they keep having these kids! How backward! Unbelievable, isn't it?

@esotericjahanism5251 6 жыл бұрын

Daruma Doll LOL

@dutchmountainsnake5379 6 жыл бұрын

Daruma Doll how horrible!

@MegaMikhy 4 жыл бұрын

Daruma Doll what is backwards man all religion is bunk I don’t care how you look at it my mother was ostracized for marrying an American I’m so glad she did cause Lazar Bodonov is a punk and the only cool ones are the Masaligins!!!!!!!

@Sweety-ut8zw 4 жыл бұрын

The problem here is you with your modern day agenda and beliefs

@immanuellth6071 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sweety-ut8zw i think he just joking and say that pretending to be a liberal