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Albert Mohler weighed in on the Alistair Begg Controversy by answering a question about whether Christians Should attend an LGBT Wedding. He said that he had a flood of questions on the topic due to the recent Alistair Begg Controversy. He doesn't name Alistair Begg in his podcast but was clearly referencing the recent outcry regarding Begg's public announcement about a change in his beliefs regarding sexual ethics as it relates to the sanctity of wedding ceremonies. Begg went on to make a defense of such beliefs after being dropped from a major radio network (American Family Radio). John MacArthur's Shepherd's Conference as well as the late RC Sproul's Ligonier have also distanced themselves from Alistair Begg. Begg withdrew from the Shepherd's Conference after a discussion with John MacArthur. It was reported as a mutual decision. Also, Alistair Begg's radio program, Truth for Life, was removed from Ligonier's RefNet.
Albert Mohler discussed his thoughts on the issue and explained that he has been very consistent in answering questions related to the topic for a long time. He responded to public statement made by Joel Osteen in 2011. He believes that Joel Osteen answered poorly when interviewed on CNN by Peers Morgan about same-sex marriage. Joel Osteen was on the program with his wife Victoria. The Joel Osteen interview is included in this episode.
I pray that this episode is a blessing to you. You'll want to watch it in it's entirety.
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@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
WATCH NEXT: PLAYLIST OF ALL VIDEOS: Alistair Begg Controversy (A Vital Issue in Evangelicalism) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apaRaJl2vtLRoas.htmlsi=rkt2oTS24HGrKwrs Below, you will find the links to the different videos that I have done on this major issue in Evangelicalism. This is certainly a watershed moment and is very important to be informed about and have biblical teaching about issues regarding weddings, marriage and other related topics. I understand that each of you are in different places in your discovery of this disheartening news so be sure to read the descriptions below and work your way through the videos that are most pressing for your needs. There is also a linked playlist. There are also links for ways that you can support this ministry. A lot of time and effort has been put into these videos and it has derailed me from my original content plans but it is an extremely important issue. You can find out more about how you can support this ministry with a one-time gift or monthly donation at the following locations (you will also see listed on my website how I prioritize donor funds): ❤Love Offering: If you were blessed by this video, and feel led to make a one-time donation of any amount, you can do so here: preachingforgodsglory.org/donate OR here: www.buymeacoffee.com/preaching RESPONSE VIDEO to Alistair Begg's sermon on 1/28/24 that demonstrates that he refuses to repent and makes the obvious implication that anyone that expresses concern about his position (which is almost all of conservative Christianity) is a Pharisee. I play highlight clips and provide a cold reaction to the disturbing things that were preached. I also make the case that his beliefs and statements have opened the floodgates wide open for the embracing of his same beliefs throughout the Church. Be sure to watch the video now: It is WAY WORSE Than it Looks! Alistair Begg REFUSES to Repent! | John MacArthur, ShepCon, GTY, G3 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apaRaJl2vtLRoas.html If you are completely shocked at this whole situation, as we all were when hearing about it, and feel lost as to what is going on, you should start with the very first video. See the description and link below: VIDEO 1 - Start here if you feel lost during this rapid development: This is very disappointing news about Alistair Begg. In a recent livestream, I provided a well-researched and thoughtful response to the recent issues regarding Alistair Begg. Whether you are aware of what happened or are still out of the loop, it was all covered in this video. I structured it in such a way that it could be shared with members of Parkside Church to help process what has happened. I also strongly encourage reaching out to Truth for Life with your concerns. Be sure to watch it here (VIDEO 1): What is HAPPENING with Alistair Begg?!!! | Truth for Life, John MacArthur, Shepherd's Conference kzfaq.info8Ph3AA5Q5_A?feature=share PLAYLIST OF ALL VIDEOS: Alistair Begg Controversy (A Vital Issue in Evangelicalism) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apaRaJl2vtLRoas.htmlsi=rkt2oTS24HGrKwrs 👍If you enjoyed this video, make sure to hit the "like" button and share this on social media to spread the truth of God's Word to more people! If you'd like to receive more biblical content like this on a regular basis, be sure to subscribe to the channel and hit the bell button (status = ALL) to be notified of new videos. Podcasts on this channel: Truth Transforms: Truth Transforms promotes a biblical worldview by dealing with doctrinal issues, discipleship issues and applying the truth of God’s Word to the cultural issues of the day. A new episode of Truth Transforms is released at least once per week. Truth Nuggets: Truth Nuggets (Daily M-F): Truth Nuggets consist of daily Bible preaching and teaching in the form of sermon clips and devotionals. A new episode is uploaded everyday M-F and is typically 10 minutes or less. 📖Get The Devotional Bible Study Guide Now: Find out more at: preachingforgodsglory.org/devotional-bible-study-guide Buy now on Amazon: amzn.to/3RvJ1qy 📧Subscribe to my newsletter for periodic updates and devotionals (and to be the first to know about future projects): subscribepage.io/2hXn7T ❤Love Offering: If you were blessed by this video, and feel led to make a one-time donation of any amount, you can do so here: preachingforgodsglory.org/donate OR here: www.buymeacoffee.com/preaching 👕Merch Store: Grab a Hoodie, T-Shirt or Mug or Find a great gift for the preacher in your life Promo video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m6-cZLmo2tW4c3k.html Visit the shop now: preachingforgodsglory.creator-spring.com View the description for more information about the ministry and playlists that might benefit you. Watch Next: See description above. Here is a playlist of all recent Alistair Begg videos on this channel: PLAYLIST OF ALL VIDEOS: Alistair Begg Controversy (A Vital Issue in Evangelicalism) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apaRaJl2vtLRoas.htmlsi=rkt2oTS24HGrKwrs
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@cindymeyers7003
@cindymeyers7003 5 ай бұрын
If Jesus was in the congregation when the question was asked about anyone objecting speaking up or forever holding their peace...?!?!? WWJD??? If a Christian chooses to be present, then they MUST speak up for Truth!!
@c1humley
@c1humley 5 күн бұрын
They don't ask that question.
@gracewest5504
@gracewest5504 5 ай бұрын
The only question a person need to ask themselves is "Would Jesus go to the wedding?". It shows a person to be a Christian hypocrite if they attend.
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 5 ай бұрын
Jesus attended dinners “with taxpayers and sinners” - at least sinners per the moral code of the OT. And the Pharisees knew scripture and sought to avoid all appearances of evil. Jesus didn’t try avoid such dinners.
@gracewest5504
@gracewest5504 5 ай бұрын
@@robtruax7640 When attending a wedding you are a witness to the ceremony by which you are in agreement and support it. Ephesians 5:11-12 (ESV) 11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. Attending a dinner to share salvation is not the same. The Pharisees rejected Jesus even though Jesus was God in the flesh on earth. No one would ever become a Christian if the Holy Spirit had not drawn them, in their sinful state, to Jesus for salvation. I pray that Jesus would help you understand what He has to say about homosexuality. Even a homosexual can repent, stop their sinful ways and be saved. Jesus can and has changed them. If not, He makes it very clear they are on their way to Hell.
@glennlaporte4545
@glennlaporte4545 5 ай бұрын
​@@robtruax7640 so...
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 5 ай бұрын
@@glennlaporte4545 sorry you didn’t fully understand the answer to your question. “Yes, Jesus would go to the wedding”. You claim a Christian would be a hypocrite the Pharisees accused Jesus of being a hypocrite for “eating with taxpayers and sinners.” If you think the biblical account is incorrect..so be it
@twarrior17
@twarrior17 5 ай бұрын
@@robtruax7640 Eating with sinners is not the same as affirming as witness at a “God celebration”, a marriage is between a man and a woman! 🙏
@elizabethdewet1659
@elizabethdewet1659 5 ай бұрын
our primary concern is our Heavenly Father. Out of respect and honor to Him I will not attend. He is Holy. His Word is True and cannot change. My behavior should be Truth in Love.
@rjmaurival
@rjmaurival 5 ай бұрын
Why even called them wedding though? It is a ceremony, not a wedding. These people are loss on their way to hell unless they repent.
@bmbutler2
@bmbutler2 5 ай бұрын
So right. I often ask which is more loving: to coddle someone in their sin and they are lost to hell for eternity or to tell them the truth, urge them to repent and spend eternity with God? Which is more loving?
@jamesstevenson1296
@jamesstevenson1296 Ай бұрын
The question is not whether it is a wedding or not but whether is a Christian wedding or not. Wedding is defined as a "ceremony where people are united in marriage".
@marshyburrows1094
@marshyburrows1094 5 ай бұрын
this is like a child who knows what the rules are… so they ask mom, then dad until they get the slacking off from the rules
@zenaidaparcon2935
@zenaidaparcon2935 5 ай бұрын
Highest praise, honor and glory must be given to the only Creator 🤗
@jamesstevenson1296
@jamesstevenson1296 Ай бұрын
This issue comes down to whether we should not attend a wedding because it conflicts with our Christian principles or that we should attend the wedding to demonstrate our continual love of a person and by retaining this relationship we may someday influence their life and lead them to Christ. The Pharisees rebuked Christ because he ate with sinners and tax collectors but by doing so he demonstrated that his love of them as people overshadowed the evil that they had done. In the case of Zacchaeus it led to repentance. Luke 19:8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”
@rhondae8222
@rhondae8222 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing these issues, brother. 👍
@graylad
@graylad 5 ай бұрын
WWJD? Like all things that attack the character and nature of God, He would probably flip over the wedding cake and drive out the attendants with a whip made out of braided cord....
@tateos4
@tateos4 5 ай бұрын
Mohler: leading from behind as usual. Over a month after the issue came to light. Plenty of time to gauge the wind. Will be looking for his comments on “He gets us” sometime in May.
@nodramamomma2777
@nodramamomma2777 5 ай бұрын
😂so true..
@sylvestermkandla1629
@sylvestermkandla1629 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight and truth.
@mthomas3845
@mthomas3845 5 ай бұрын
It's not a "reversal"...rather, it's simply an abomination, a perversion of Gods order.
@kennymacdonald5313
@kennymacdonald5313 Ай бұрын
I would be ashamed if a friend thought I'd be invitable to a gay wedding
@ronhee7273
@ronhee7273 5 ай бұрын
If God were to stay away because we are in sin, we all will be in trouble.
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
Yep. Nobody should stay away from unbelievers. They need the gospel. But, we don’t celebrate their sins and commitment to lifelong unrepentant sin!
@timb8970
@timb8970 5 ай бұрын
Pastor Allberry is still incorrect. Christ says to shake the dust off your cloak if they refuse to hear the Word. I would assume if they are actively living a gay lifestyle they have refused Christ.
@sbeallvln
@sbeallvln 5 ай бұрын
Mohler himself was disgraced a few years ago, and now this is the first I have heard from him since then.
@Dulcimertunes
@Dulcimertunes 5 ай бұрын
Friendship with the world is ENMITY WITH GOD
@elsiezimmerman4304
@elsiezimmerman4304 5 ай бұрын
Soft on scripture…..Joel just can’t not come right out and say it is wrong! So Joel would rather “respect” people instead of “respecting” God…whom you have to give an account to of whether you stand for God or please people!!
@bmbutler2
@bmbutler2 5 ай бұрын
Reason is Joel Osteen is a false teacher just like Andy Stanley. But so many are lost in their delusions.
@user-dg8uv5ij4n
@user-dg8uv5ij4n 5 ай бұрын
James 3 10-12
@sirdanteesquire1147
@sirdanteesquire1147 5 ай бұрын
So your respect for that person out weighs your respect for God? Hmmm 😵
@ztaylor616
@ztaylor616 2 ай бұрын
What’s more important Joel? Respect to that person or respect to God?
@julienichols7811
@julienichols7811 5 ай бұрын
How many weddings have any of you been to where people get remarried after an unbiblical marriage? Did you stand up and object when they asked that question?
@julienichols7811
@julienichols7811 5 ай бұрын
Sorry I meant unbiblical divorce
@sirdanteesquire1147
@sirdanteesquire1147 5 ай бұрын
Keep the videos coming because Alistair Begg is hoping that we Christians will just get tired and let it go hence he and LGBTQ wins
@wbcamino57
@wbcamino57 5 ай бұрын
Not definitely as Christian’s we not support legal union between same sex people
@jjmonty8090
@jjmonty8090 5 ай бұрын
I clicked to listen to Mohlers answer, not Osteens.
@toonybrain
@toonybrain 5 ай бұрын
Do I even want to watch this video in light of Al Mohler going Woke a while back?
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
Yes. You want to watch it. That's obviosly why you clicked on it. Now, watch the whole thing. Just because Mohler is woke doesn't mean that he doesn't get this issue right. Or maybe he doesn't. I guess you can watch and find out.
@hisimagenme
@hisimagenme 5 ай бұрын
Let's just take Allistair Begg of the pulpit for a moment. Because the GOOD that comes from this is that it's making people question. Taking sin off a scale in the sense of bad to worse is the first thing. The commands of God to Moses was a covenant between the people and God. So to go with someone to lie to someone, to go with someone who is slanderous and intends to slander, to go with someone to murder someone, all these things seem easy to answer. Mostly because even homosexuals don't like being lied to or murdered or slandered. Sin hates sin done to itself. What about going with someone to abort their child? Feels heavier on the scale... like attending a gay marriage. But those who sit with liars are as guilty as those who attend abortions and murders and gay marriages. Psalms 1. I was invited to my nieces gay wedding, I was very close to my niece and got along with her companion, but I declined to go to her wedding. It hurt both of them, they were mad and didn't communicate for a time. But they came around and our relationship resumed. Thanking God, my niece finally walked away from that lifestyle. I know how hard it is to be in this hot seat. I won't attend a liars school, conference or any such thing either. Yet, a covenant breaking in the sight of God is very serious. If people knew how serious they would 1) be a bit more cautious about getting married, 2) be way more serious about divorce. In God's sight hetero divorce is right up there with homo-marriage. So...choose you this day whom you will serve. If yourself, it's the devil, if someone else, it's the devil if God, then ALL sin is not a place of debate. But how many Christians scrutinizing this Allister Begg thing can stand righteous on that basis? Can you hear the sound of rocks hitting the ground?
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
I'm grateful to hear about your faithfulness and praise God that your niece walked away from that lifestyle.
@ssm1732
@ssm1732 5 ай бұрын
It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man into heaven, Mr Osteen has a lot at stake so yes he would of course attend even when he knows what the scripture says.
@margochanning6868
@margochanning6868 5 ай бұрын
Friendship with the world is enmity with God.
@sojourning7
@sojourning7 5 ай бұрын
Yes! plain and simple...Amen!
@jamesstevenson1296
@jamesstevenson1296 Ай бұрын
What nonsense! Please read Luke 19: 1-9
@margochanning6868
@margochanning6868 Ай бұрын
@jamesstevenson1296 So you are refuting James 4:4 with Luke. Stop pretending that you know, understand and follow God's Word, Will and Way. Read the WHOLE Bible instead of cherry picking the verses that suit you and confirm and conform to your thinking.
@jamesstevenson1296
@jamesstevenson1296 21 күн бұрын
@@margochanning6868 Unfortunately Margo due to the vitriol directed against Alistair Begg there are very few cherries left on the tree. Fortunately one does exist and Mathew 28:19-20 directs us to go out into all the world and "and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” We cannot do this without loving people, reaching out, building relationships and earning the right to talk about Jesus Christ.
@usinebob
@usinebob 5 ай бұрын
Anything that is not of God, is of the devil…we cannot celebrate a thing that is of the devil.
@lindagriffis5143
@lindagriffis5143 5 ай бұрын
I am a little confused? Can someone help clarify??? I seem to distinctly recall Albert Mohler publicly apologizing and repenting for preaching "against" gender dysphoria only a year or two ago.?? Recognizing that there were people with different genders than just male and female. Did I miss something? Did he repent from doing that? He seems to be one that they quote and listen to all of a sudden now.🤔
@lindagriffis5143
@lindagriffis5143 5 ай бұрын
I must add...I am against the big attack on Alistair Begg by "brothers and sisters" I still listen to him live stream and his last week's message was excellent! He is a man of God and God is truly using him.❤
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
There is no attack against Alistair Begg. I've never seen such a gracious loving correction for such a serious issue. If it wasn't such a well respected expositor, I'm sure people would have responded differently but I've only seen loving correction and earnest calls for repentance from those discussing it. The only attacks I've seen are from people that publicly slander them unprovoked in the comment section of their videos. It's very sad. People that leave slanderous comments like that need to grow in self-control. Would you pray with me for people like that. I hope to see more maturity in the body of Christ. Thank you for joining me in prayer and God bless!
@robertburns9596
@robertburns9596 5 ай бұрын
My son was married to his partner, of which I refused to go in a loving way and have always treated them with respect. With that said, my son wants nothing to do with me. I am praying for them both and desire that they both Repent and turn to Christ.
@JM-mb6ei
@JM-mb6ei 4 ай бұрын
Though it was difficult, you did the right thing. And as the Lord said to Samuel when the people demanded a king ‘they have not rejected you, they have rejected Me.’ It is never right or loving to affirm someone in a matter for which they will have to repent to be in a saving relationship with the Lord. I join you in praying for your son and his partner. And I’m asking the Lord to use everything in their lives to make their hearts good soil for the gospel to find root. 🙏
@jamesstevenson1296
@jamesstevenson1296 Ай бұрын
Well you have said it all. The relationship with your son has broken down and so has your opportunity to influence him in the future.
@robertburns9596
@robertburns9596 Ай бұрын
@@jamesstevenson1296 I will continue to petition for him in prayer and in spirit.
@sirdanteesquire1147
@sirdanteesquire1147 5 ай бұрын
If you get invited and decide to go make sure you bring your picket signs ♀➕♂
@sirdanteesquire1147
@sirdanteesquire1147 5 ай бұрын
Joel is a spinless jelly fish
@jillstewart7355
@jillstewart7355 5 ай бұрын
Several thoughts here. Joel and Victoria are mo match for Piers. He tossed the bait, and they both fell hook, line, and sinker. Joel looked like a cat on a hot tin roof. I thought his wife threw him under the bus in the attending a gay wedding question. And, I noticed Joel said he wouldn't want to "disrespect" a friend by not attending his or her gay wedding. Hmmmmmm, I suppose this means he would put his friend's ceremony above that which God abhorres and considers evil. There is no real difference in Mr. Osteen and Mr. Begg in their excuses. Both find their compassion and respect (in this situation) overriding God's instruction. Serious error of judgment on their part. I have just come across your channel and have enjoyed it thus far.
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
They sure did walk right into that trap! It was way too easy for Piers. I'm grateful to hear that you just discovered the channel and are enjoying the content.
@OrvilleMiller-ex9km
@OrvilleMiller-ex9km 5 ай бұрын
What would Jesus do. Dearest brother pastors seems the point has been made. It's time to throw the flag for late hits. Honestly ask yourself what would Jesus do. Thanks
@andrebooysen2526
@andrebooysen2526 5 ай бұрын
A lot of contradiction. One point you call it a wedding and again no it’s not a wedding.what exactly is it? Be honest as a Christian and say it’s not a marriage/wedding.
@lindaholtzhausen1539
@lindaholtzhausen1539 5 ай бұрын
Bla bla bla bla. The WORD OF GOD SAID... LOVE ONE ANOTHER
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
It sure does. Now go put it into practice.
@ronniemaynor4434
@ronniemaynor4434 5 ай бұрын
Has Gospel Coalition abandoned the gospel? I have always had a hesitation with Alistair Begg, and now I know why.
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
Sadly, yes. The Gospel Coalition has been fully on board with the woke social justice agenda for a long time now. It began around 2017 or 2018 and has gotten worse over the years.
@rpullen4825
@rpullen4825 4 ай бұрын
How about ... God's Word trumps the law of the land? GOD never changes His mind about SIN. I haven't seen any revisions in His Word by the Holy Spirit concerning this subject. He calls it an abomination, and clearly names homosexuals as having no permission to enter heaven. DON'T go.
@629lrogers
@629lrogers 5 ай бұрын
What is wrong with some Christians? God does not need us to defend Him or His word! These people have a problem with God and His Word. God and His Word are offensive to sinners. So if you, a Christian who believes in the Bible, you too will be offensive to them. We represent God here on this earth. So going to a so-called gay wedding, you bring God in the mix. Which is confusing to gays who know what the Bible says about them. God says to preach the gospel and He will do the rest to save people. Stop all this fleshly compassion that is sending people to Hell!
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 5 ай бұрын
So..what about a Christian (who is divorced) asking you to attend a their wedding to an unbeliever. Is that a “real” wedding? It is a heterosexual wedding and you showed a clip that said all heterosexual weddings are real wedding. Is this a real wedding?
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
Your question is answered in the video.
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 5 ай бұрын
@@PreachingforGodsGlory at 8:47 you proceed to state that a wedding even one of adultery is a “true” marriage. What is your biblical basis for that? How can we claim God sees a heterosexual wedding that comes from adultery as a legitimate “marriage”? The individuals are still “married” to their first spouses - in God’s eyes. So, how can a heterosexual adulterous wedding be still part of the “natural order”. Any second marriages that are not connected to unfaithful of the other spouse or death is an adulterous relationship - not a true marriage, even if heterosexual . At least that is pretty clear in Scripture. I’m not getting how an adulterous marriage is any “more” natural than a homosexual wedding.
@user-zt4mc7wy2o
@user-zt4mc7wy2o 5 ай бұрын
are christian allowed to attend a gay or unbelievers funeral?
@PreachingforGodsGlory
@PreachingforGodsGlory 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Funerals do not celebrate sin. A marriage ceremony (aka: a wedding) is a ritual in which all present stand as a witness before God that they support the marriage. It demonstrates approval of the union and the vows that are exchanged. In the case of so-called gay / trans weddings, vows will be taken that they intend to live a life of unrepentant sexual immorality. Weddings are a very different kind of event. It’s not just an event, it is a sacrament.
@JM-mb6ei
@JM-mb6ei 3 ай бұрын
A wedding is a celebration, an ‘applause’ as it were for the joining of two people in a covenant relationship. Christians cannot celebrate any sin, theirs or someone else’s, because that sin was part of what demanded Christs suffering and death on the cross. A funeral is a different mattr entirely, it is a recognition that someone once alive is no more and has passed into eternity. As such, I see no reason a Christian should not attend the funeral of someone who was a homosexual, unless of course, a family member or significant other, asks them not to. By doing so they are able to show their love and concern for those left behind to grieve.
@joniswinton7350
@joniswinton7350 5 ай бұрын
It's an abomination against God's Law
@nodramamomma2777
@nodramamomma2777 5 ай бұрын
Dont care what Olsteen or his wife say. Turned off halfway through.
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