Aleksander Toradze: Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 2, Op.16 (Mariinsky Orchestra, Valery Gergiev)

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9 жыл бұрын

From the Great Hall of the Moscow Conservatory, on 26 April 2012
Aleksander Toradze - piano
Symphony Orchestra of the Mariinsky Theatre, St Petersburg
Valery Gergiev - musical director
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Sergei Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No.2 Opus 16 (37')
0:35 I. Andantino - Allegretto
14:58 II. Scherzo (vivace)
17:20 III. Intermezzo (allegro moderato)
24:24 III. Finale (Allegro tempestoso)
The Easter Festival is an internationally renowned event among classical music lovers, traditionally opened in Moscow on Easter Sunday. Each year the Mariinsky Theatre Orchestra and its musical director Valery Gergiev travel across Russia - for the past 10 years now!
In 2012 we were given an exceptional musical gift: the Mariinsky Theatre Symphony Orchestra under the baton of Valery Gergiev performed the complete cycle of Sergei Prokofiev’s symphonies and piano concerti - a composer with whom Maestro Gergiev and the orchestra seem particularly in tune.

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@bang-shyuanchen
@bang-shyuanchen 8 жыл бұрын
Many people are unable to hear past the technical refinement flaws to understand the raw beauty of expression in this pianist. Listen to the color change and dramatic structure he masters with his control and design on dynamic range.
@Wosudhehqaxb9169
@Wosudhehqaxb9169 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless of who performs this piece, from around 11:45 to 12:45, will always bring me shivers. Its that rare moment in music where the piano sounds like the bells in a cathedral, shouting out to God Himself. But whether it's in reverence or scorn, I do not know...
@DarthYannious
@DarthYannious 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps both...
@darylrojas
@darylrojas 8 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw this video, didn't like it, but Toradze goes beyond the notes! His rendition of this piece is amazing, the decadence of that period of the Russian history is here, suicide, tragic, all is here. Not so conventional but interesting. Very mature conception. Bravo
@michaelthoseby4682
@michaelthoseby4682 Жыл бұрын
I've heard Toradze described as "belonging to the Soviet truck driver school of piano playing"
@kaleidoscopio5
@kaleidoscopio5 2 жыл бұрын
Goodbye, Maestro 😔
@ZOGGYDOGGY
@ZOGGYDOGGY 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was fuckin' great! Best, most emotionally driven performance of Prokofiev's Piano Concerto number 2 ever. Felt it.
@dzieciarnia
@dzieciarnia 4 жыл бұрын
God gave Man five fingers on one hand just to let him play this concert of Prokofiev. Phenomenal performance!
@b.s6874
@b.s6874 2 жыл бұрын
R.I.P
@timkrueger4947
@timkrueger4947 8 жыл бұрын
I like this version a lot. There is the house of flying fingers version etc. where all the notes are played precisely and at maximum tempo, and it sounds very good, but here Toradze goes beyond what is on the page and gives us something quite remarkable, perhaps what Prokofiev had in mind. The back up by Gergiev and his Mariinsky players makes for a fantastic performance. Thanks to all!!
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 4 жыл бұрын
This ia baddest version of this concerto
@jacopastorius319
@jacopastorius319 4 жыл бұрын
na -kun ?
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacopastorius319 He is not able play that concerto good in that age. I just see how hard for him cadenza when he play.
@mikhailtroshkin
@mikhailtroshkin 3 жыл бұрын
na -kun Horowitz played Rachmaninov 3rd piano concerto at 75, and he played it technicially and amazingly. Alexander Toradze is 60 years old in this video... So, if you have good fingers, you’ll play it even when you are dead. But, in this situation, it’s very strange, because Toradze has his own music academy, and he studied at Moscow conservatory... maybe, he wasn’t able to practice exactly for this performance😅
@ciararespect4296
@ciararespect4296 3 жыл бұрын
Wang you mean? She is a bad interpreter and can't play for toffee just a typist
@darnfirefingers
@darnfirefingers 9 жыл бұрын
Beside the virtuosic playing, the ending of the 1st movement (around 13:50) is one of the most beautiful moments in music that is only heard in this rendition. In spite of the rawness of Toradze's playing, his conception, I believe, is closest to Prokofiev's inspiration - there's tragedy, desperation, hopelessness... A story of suicide indeed...
@MorbidMayem
@MorbidMayem 3 жыл бұрын
No, Toradze’s playing is diametrically opposed to Prokofiev’s. Listen to the few recordings Prokofiev has left. His performances are very straightforward and almost a-romantic and he liked Richter whose approach is also totally different from Toradze’s.
@tyler-qr5jn
@tyler-qr5jn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MorbidMayem can I have a link to prokofievs recordings please
@anaplastic
@anaplastic 7 жыл бұрын
To me, this is by far the best performance of this concerto by anyone. It's quite idiosyncratic and quirky, but in perfect control and understanding. Re-listening to other performances gives the real sense of what one misses. Also, this performance is better than Toradze recordings on CD of this concerto from 1990s. Gergiev and Mariinsky back up wonderfully. One of the best examples of what a KZfaq search can reveal. A true gem.
@nathanielouzana
@nathanielouzana 3 жыл бұрын
That performance was the best I've heard so far. Very loyal to the way prokofiev would actually play his own music.
@leosullivan9228
@leosullivan9228 8 жыл бұрын
IF you ever have a chance to see Toradze, DO NOT FAIL TO GO. I've seen him play this Concerto twice in the last 15 years - in very different interpretations. And the first performances set a new standard for this Concerto in tempi and expression. The Toradze sound is deep, Soviet, & so beautiful! Of course most of the Hollywood Bowll audience din't understand they were hearing history. But there were a few telling, interrupting cheers. This performer communicates as profoundly as Emil Gilels.
@user-yr7ow8il6f
@user-yr7ow8il6f 5 ай бұрын
Bravo, Aleksander❤
@user-hm1ic5qu3x
@user-hm1ic5qu3x 4 жыл бұрын
What a captivating performance, especially the second movement!
@georgiabelarus2176
@georgiabelarus2176 4 жыл бұрын
უძლიერესი ორკესტრი, უძლიერესი დირიჟორი, უბრწყინვალესი თორაძე..... ეს შესრულება ერთ-ერთი გამორჩეულია. რამხელა ემოცია მოდის თავად კონცერტიდან და ამას დამატებული შესრულების მანერა მით უფრო აძლიერებს ამ მუხტს. მაგარია გერგიევი. როგორ ფლობს მთელ ორკესტრს, ასევე მაგარია თორაძე.
@user-kt7mm7bp3j
@user-kt7mm7bp3j 9 ай бұрын
Грандиозно! И оркестр, и Т 38:20 орадзе!!
@aleko818
@aleko818 4 жыл бұрын
Incomprehensible, strange and whimsical.
@MANS4ON-Ce137
@MANS4ON-Ce137 7 жыл бұрын
Great!!
@YeojunKim04
@YeojunKim04 Жыл бұрын
BRAVO!!!!
@gregfinejazz
@gregfinejazz 3 жыл бұрын
Замечательное исполнение!!
@wuwupiano
@wuwupiano 8 жыл бұрын
best orchetra in the world hands down
@zenchopin
@zenchopin 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. No time, primordial pianism Ciakovski echoes....
@brunolanzasant
@brunolanzasant 5 жыл бұрын
Wow superb 2nd mov .. and people still complaining about his stamina in the comment section
@jonathanpukon559
@jonathanpukon559 6 жыл бұрын
Long time since a performance of Prok. 2nd gave me so much pleasure. Phenomenal.
@ukdavepianoman
@ukdavepianoman 3 жыл бұрын
Having listened to this a couple of times now, and having heard umpteen run-of-the-mill performances of this concerto, Toradze has produced the most remarkable interpretation of this work. He really plays like he has thought about what each note means. Prokofiev's music, particularly in this concerto, is not about making pleasant sounds or sounding nice...it's about raw emotions and feelings. Toradze understands this completely.
@goliaphheavytransport5005
@goliaphheavytransport5005 7 жыл бұрын
Лучшее исполнение!!!!!!!!! СУПЕР!!!! Какое извлечение каждого звука! Какая выдержка и экспрессия!
@lucianomaltamaia7119
@lucianomaltamaia7119 5 жыл бұрын
Stranger cadencia! NIce!
@mahyartarighijavid8932
@mahyartarighijavid8932 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo Bravo Bravo 👌💎 best intonation of Prokofiev 💚
@user-sh6rj6qb2f
@user-sh6rj6qb2f Жыл бұрын
different style with Anna vinnitskaya. Both are amazing! Philosophy vs fairytale
@madonnaujmajuridze6466
@madonnaujmajuridze6466 2 жыл бұрын
Just amazing!!!
@gogozims870
@gogozims870 6 жыл бұрын
Superb
@user-vv4jk9kw2x
@user-vv4jk9kw2x Жыл бұрын
Превосходное исполнение, вызывающее восторг.
@user-wb1kj9vv9j
@user-wb1kj9vv9j 5 жыл бұрын
ゲルギエフってどうやって勉強してるんだろう 凄いなー
@FionaWuBach
@FionaWuBach 5 жыл бұрын
wowowowwww......
@MorbidMayem
@MorbidMayem 8 жыл бұрын
Hmm mixed feelings about this performance. Some passages are played in a very interesting, novel and, dare I say, amazing way, but other parts sound quite disastrous tbh.
@johndoyle-sims8583
@johndoyle-sims8583 3 жыл бұрын
Yep agree
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic 3 жыл бұрын
He plays the fff of the end of the cadenza just as the orchestra come in rather p. I can't understand his decision here. This is supposed to raise the roof...
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic 3 жыл бұрын
But apart from my comment below, i loved this interpretation. Full of fire, passion and originality. I forgive his p at the end of the cadenza...I feel Wang should be giving something extra to her performances that indicate a profound empathy with the emotions being described in the music. But her virtuosity is so great that maybe she takes them for granted?
@IWANSHKA
@IWANSHKA 4 ай бұрын
Медленновато первую часть
@tann2291
@tann2291 5 ай бұрын
О чем для вас этот концерт?
@paulburke3247
@paulburke3247 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely,WONDERFUL!
@georgesmirault5428
@georgesmirault5428 11 ай бұрын
Magnificent!
@Bigapple111
@Bigapple111 6 жыл бұрын
starting from 13:06 it feels like the orchestra is really struggling with the slow pace, the brass going too slow and strings going to fast. You see the lady thinking "who are we supposed to follow??" at 13:21
@lollycopter
@lollycopter 5 жыл бұрын
"who are we supposed to follow??" Not the stick, that's for sure!
@IbstisztBlogspotHkgracomtey
@IbstisztBlogspotHkgracomtey 6 жыл бұрын
His cadenza really makes me painful.
@tyler-qr5jn
@tyler-qr5jn 2 жыл бұрын
He was attacking the piano most the time, but still a great pianist otherwise.
@ggrey5990
@ggrey5990 8 жыл бұрын
I think some of the negative commenters here need to learn patience. This is a great performance if you aren't trying to get to the end.
@lollycopter
@lollycopter 5 жыл бұрын
How was the Scherzo?
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic 3 жыл бұрын
True...he has great depth as a pianist and great understanding...
@davidepicco5752
@davidepicco5752 4 жыл бұрын
Toradze-Gergiev- Maariinsky Best in Prokofiev Piano 2 in my opinion
@zelda2664
@zelda2664 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@davidepicco5752
@davidepicco5752 3 жыл бұрын
@@zelda2664 Thanks, it was not my discovery, a dear Russian friend who knows Valery told me about this wonderful execution
@yangting2672
@yangting2672 2 жыл бұрын
really hard for him
@OphatTaerattanachai
@OphatTaerattanachai 7 жыл бұрын
This is second of the best performance of this concerto. My first is Yuja Wang who can play it with precision and flow. However, this version is more emotional and varied in color and tone.
@mazactal6063
@mazactal6063 5 жыл бұрын
Yuja Wang ...you cannot be serious. Not even comparable to this performance
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazactal6063 Hold it. She's technically perfect at this Concerto! ? I really don't get people who don't think she's No 1 pianist in the world ever.
@MorbidMayem
@MorbidMayem 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazactal6063 clean the manure out of your ears
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 Жыл бұрын
@@burrenmagic you have thousands of pianists , who play this concert technically perfect. She's only one of them
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic Жыл бұрын
@@ediccartman7252 i've head two of her efforts. pass on both occasions.
@rafdekeninck5419
@rafdekeninck5419 2 жыл бұрын
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
@stephenhall3515
@stephenhall3515 5 жыл бұрын
Soloist eccentricities and a palpable disdain for the other musicians make this a mess if we are honest. The too slow beginning is the harbinger of an unhappy performance which shows in the body language at the end.
@ronwalker4849
@ronwalker4849 7 жыл бұрын
The opening is so damn slow that it feels like I can´t breathe, so I will move on to something else. Life is to short to wait around.
@ggrey5990
@ggrey5990 7 жыл бұрын
Considering the subject matter, isn't feeling like you can't breathe a good thing?
@mickdunn8423
@mickdunn8423 4 жыл бұрын
Not to my taste! But, that's OK...
@The1976spirit
@The1976spirit 6 жыл бұрын
Gach plays piano? The Klingon Empire condems this assault on it´s culture!
@harriter88
@harriter88 9 жыл бұрын
Toradze is a wonderful pianist,but the opening tempo is just 2 dragging and slow
@Chrisspher
@Chrisspher 9 жыл бұрын
harriter88 It sound to me the soloist might be too aged to command such a monster concerto.
@dustcapital
@dustcapital 7 жыл бұрын
Agree with harriter88 and the technical mistakes. day off? His rendition during the 2016 Rotterdam Gergiev Festival shows that his age (born in 1952) plays no role!
@sarolta41
@sarolta41 7 жыл бұрын
harriter88
@stellachibukhchian6932
@stellachibukhchian6932 4 жыл бұрын
Не могу его слушать после Юджи Ванг Очень не уверенно и скованно по сравнению с ней Буря в стакане воды
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 Жыл бұрын
Ну да, у него бикини не такое красивое
@ITube4873
@ITube4873 7 жыл бұрын
Странное исполнение
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 4 жыл бұрын
Мне кажется что партитуру никто в руки не брал а на динамику всем всё равно было. Д а ещё и пианист ноты неправильные брал и в каденции мне на это было очень сложно смотреть. От ppp к fff за 10 секунд. Это странно.
@sergeymarkosyan9468
@sergeymarkosyan9468 Жыл бұрын
@@na-kun2136 Вот удивляют меня люди вроде вас. Это же искусство все-таки, если все будут играть одинаково какой в этом смысл, я уверен сами композиторы нюансы ставят весьма условно. Смысл любого исполнения передать музыку так, чтобы было интересно, это ведь не конкурс, чтобы механически отбивать каждую ноту...Другое дело, что технически исполнение не полноценное ...
@user-du4gb2fx9p
@user-du4gb2fx9p 2 жыл бұрын
Ой, как же плохо сыграно! Уничтожил всю красоту лучшего концерта в истории музыка. Медленно, не в такт, долгое мучение фортепьяно, не нашёл отклика и у вменяемого слушателя и у инструмента, что ещё печальней.
@ediccartman7252
@ediccartman7252 Жыл бұрын
Это Прокофьев уничтожил твое представление о красоте ( и не только твое, Глазунова, например тоже) :)) Просто большинство пианистов играет так, чтоб тебя не обидеть, потому что кушать все хотят, а ты платишь бабки за билет. Наконец нашелся тот, кто сыграл Прокофьева ( еще Постникова может быть с Рождественским ).
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 4 жыл бұрын
God. He's just destroy this concerto. Terrible
@wojciechkebowski5710
@wojciechkebowski5710 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting but quite incoherent. I much prefer Gutierrez's version.
@Yhiith
@Yhiith 4 жыл бұрын
That is a studio recording. On this repertoire this makes a huuuuge difference.
@Carlofdutyy
@Carlofdutyy 8 жыл бұрын
No sé, no me gustó mucho. :/
@mkur100
@mkur100 3 жыл бұрын
Pure mannerism. Toradze changes tempos on a whim, looses music flow. I was aware of this tendency, knowing the trend form 1995 recording. It only got worse. This is the concerto caricature.
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 4 жыл бұрын
Worst cadenza and concerto ever have been played
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic 3 жыл бұрын
That's harsh!
@beegyoshiofficial8518
@beegyoshiofficial8518 9 жыл бұрын
Climax totally ruined at the end of the cadenza. Really can't enjoy this interpretation at all. His dynamics are all over the place. He was truly struggling throughout the first movement. Tough gig for the conductor.
@richardlitwin4046
@richardlitwin4046 6 жыл бұрын
No, Jose, with respect, the climax aat the end of the cadenza was the most orgasmic passage of music I've ever heard. Unbelievable power, that man. I got to know his playing a few years ago and I've come back to it and he is a Man of God and a Man of Power and a Man of Music. A MAN. Yes.
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardlitwin4046 No. He is right. Toradze plays pretty bad if not terrible. And the dynamics are strange. If you want to play this concerto you need power. He is very old man (1952) and for him playing this concerto is not easy, it seems.(source: sounds that he made during the cadenza)
@hanssteiner9652
@hanssteiner9652 3 жыл бұрын
@@na-kun2136 try to learn proper english before criticizing a wonderful pianist!
@na-kun2136
@na-kun2136 3 жыл бұрын
@@hanssteiner9652 done!
@burrenmagic
@burrenmagic 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardlitwin4046 except for that fff which he played rather p? That was the only disappointment for me...but he was clearly whacked at that point.
@mikedaniels3009
@mikedaniels3009 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know there were so many masochists around, pianist & orchestra included. WTF do people pay hard earned money for THIS apocalyptic crap when they could listen to real music and go home happy and elated?
@slavina6124
@slavina6124 8 жыл бұрын
such a boring performance is that !
@vandoesselaerewillem6889
@vandoesselaerewillem6889 9 жыл бұрын
Terrible !!! This not P. as it should be !!! Pianist ? Adanshito !!!
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