Where is your evidence?

It is with Floyd now LOL

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+jodeci parker no? how so?

+jodeci parker true. yes. but what about in his earlier days? you think he was free of PEDs all this time?

+jodeci parker either

+jodeci parker oh, ok.

Increased drug testing? Wtf?? Lol!

goes to show most people like YOU in the YTBC are just IGNORANT and plain STUPID. Can you enlighten me about the ILLEGAL 750ml of IV fluid which is restricted by WADA and was just given a T.U.E (Theraputic Use Exemption) 20 days AFTER the fight? The fight was ran by Mayweather Promotions and in VEGAS right? If Manny was the one with the IV scandal I bet my house people like you would have gone rallying the streets, but why does Floyd get a pass? And plain and simple, Most Welterweights walk around at 160 to 170lbs. Manny walks around at 145lbs, Manny had his last legit knockout at 140lbs.Manny was never a Welterweight you stupid Cunt. JUST FUNNY HOW IGNORANT AND BIASED you FLOMOS are LOL

+Jose Jose shut the fuck up most top athletes r on juice doesn't have to be ariza juice now fuck off with ur essay somewhere else

People nowadays are stupid and not using their brains. Go watch roy jones on why pacquiao didn't have a k.o and he explained it very clearly for all casual fans and idiot like you. Demn! People nowadays are stupid AF lol! Floyd caught IV and no one blames him even it was against the rules while pac blaming taking peds without evidence. Lol! Go watch roy jones bro! That might help ur brain cells.

+Jack Frost I ain't no casual fool I'm glad he explained it for morans like you

@@herewego2460 Floyd ILLEGAL IV the cheat EVEN says Manny PacROID is a cheat. PacROID refused drugtesting. PacROID forgot ENGRISH in an interview and ignored some questions by acting dumb. PACROID AND HIS ILLEGAL GAMOT 💉💉💉💉💉

And PEDs masker

An even bigger boss is Memo Heredia

He stopped getting knockouts when he moved up to 147.Its not rocket science.

+William Pantoja he stopped cotto and then beat the shit out of margarito, all above 140

+12 cisko he barely stopped cotto. if you saw that fight youd know cotto could have lasted the last what? 50 seconds of the fight? Plus thats a catchweight of 145. and he didnt KO margarito soooo....

+William Pantoja stop the milkshakes ; stop the knockouts.... Simple ,

Floyd's a proven cheat Manny's not end of.

Shut the hell up old man.

Nononononono no no no no

what part of the video?

When Pac was stringently tested, no KOs. When he wasn't KOs returned. ???

Even simpler, he got older and fought bigger fighters.

Marquez is bigger? Barrera is bigger? Bradley is bigger? Rios was bigger? Please. Pacquiao never had the power that HBO claimed he had. Pacquiao was very aggressive and tenacious, but he never even had his basics down. That's why he fought come-forward styles that put no emphasis on slipping or movement. Once Pacquiao fought guys who could actually box at the top level, he began looking shitty. So he started the "Pacman Weight Manipulation Club" and began winning on the scales before the fights ever happened. And he only did as much only once a fighter got beaten by someone else so that they were: 1 - vulnerable with shattered confidence and 2 - desperate to get a big payday that was no longer in their grasp because they had just lost and fallen out of contention. Pacquiao and Roach knew exactly what they were doing. Just like from 2011-2015 Pacquiao avoided EVERY SINGLE WELTERWEIGHT IN THE 147 DIVISION IN FAVOR OF IMPORTING SMALLER MEN FROM LIGHTWEIGHT UP TO WW TO PRETEND TO BE WW FIGHTERS. Its was all orchestrated and executed with the help and blessing of HBO and the BWAA. That's who Pacquiao managed to keep it all looking legitimate. Anyone wants to dispute it? LOOK IT UP! Your argument isn't with me. Its with the verifiable FACTS.

Well your facts are skewed. The guy had 38 knockouts in 58 fights, shows he had power. Starting in '09 he fought ranked opponents in Cotto (who is now a middleweight), Clottey (who has gone up to light middleweight), Mosley and Margarito. The only thing dictating his fights(with the exception of his last fight) was money, not some secret conspiracy.

***** Pacquiao had KO's against men who were less than world class fighters. Just like Golovkin, fighting opponents that aren't worth shit means NOTHING. Certain fighters get the benefit of the doubt, but that in no way changes the fact that their resumes are completely crap. Golovkin STILL has not fought a world champion. Pacquiao did fight unknown champions when he was in Asia, but there was very little talent in those divisions in the years he was coming Which is yet another reason why its so telling that Pacquiao got knocked out by men who were C & D-level fighters back then. No one can argue that Pacuqiao's first 40 opponents were not unknown, unexceptional men unworthy of mention. Its called PADDING. Its what lots of non-American fighters do. they hide out in obscure corners of the world and fight a bunch of cab drivers and soup kitchen chefs to amass a resume of VOLUME, NOT QUALITY. In 09' Cotto was NOT a world champion. Cotto was NEVER a champion until he fought and defeated Yuri Foreman at 154lbs. Clottey was coming off a loss and was not top 5 at WW. That fight was set up to silence critics who observed that Pacquiao avoided slick Black fighters. Mosley had been trying to fight Pacquiao for quite some time. Pacquiao refused. It wasn't until Mayweather dominated Mosley and then Mosley got a draw against Mora that Pacquiao found the balls to step in with Mosley. There's a video of Roach saying this himself. Margarito was banned at the time Pacquiao fought him. Margarito, who had been wearing fist casts to win his fights, got caught and then knocked out for his troubles .. and then banned. Arum paid Texas officials to lift the ban in their state to allow Pacquiao to compete against a man who looked weak and gaunt due to a rehydration clause. The fact is, neither Pacquiao or Margarito were in a position to compete for a 154lb title. Yet Arum set up that vacant title match to make Pacquiao seem more accomplished than he really was. Have you ever asked yourself why Pacquiao NEVER fought a man above 140lbs that was ranked better than 5th up until 2015 when he faced Mayweather? I bet you haven't. You're right. There is no secret conspiracy concerning Pacquiao's fights. Its common knowledge that HBO and the BWAA put all their weight behind Pacquiao and tried to MAKE him into the star that he could never become on his own. Proof of that is the FACT that after fighting Mosley, Pacquiao went on a streak where he avoided every single welterweight fight in the world from 2011-2015. During that streak, Pacquiao lost to Bradley and then got put to sleep by Marquez. Because of those circumstances .. and the fact that Pacquiao was only competing as a welterweight but was not fighting ANY welterweights to maintain or raise his rank, Pacquiao officially fell out of the top 20 rankings of every single weight division in boxing in 2013. After that point( _and here's the kicker that shows just how illegitimate Pacquiao's endeavors were above 140lbs_ ) Manny Pacquiao and Bob Arum paid the WBO to have Pacquiao *"INSTALLED"* back into the top 5 at 147lbs DESPITE Pacquiao never fighting a welterweight boxer until 2015 against Mayweather. *KNOW YOUR BOXING.* Here's a question for you: What does "INSTALLED" actually mean in the context that the WBO used the term? Until you can answer that, you're not really equipped to have this discussion.

J Smith Right off the bat you're wrong. Cotto was ranked 2nd when he fought him. Cotto dropped to 4 AFTER he lost to Pac. You keep saying he didnt fight welterweights until after 2015 yet he fought Cotto, he fought Clotty who was ranked 5th at the time and Margarito. And his lost to Bradley was a dubious loss and everyone knows it

Merry Christmas and God bless...

Add Roach and Mario Lopez to that 😭

Very well said, but most will call you a Flomo for that assessment. DLH, Margarito, and Cotto were at catchweights. Hatton was ruined by Mayweather, and he struggled in ALL 4 fights with Marquez. He failed to stop Rios and Algeri (in which neither was never in the fight, even the contracts were signed). Tho Pacquiao did look good against Bradley, but he lost all momentum with me facing Vargas (a decent C+/B- fighter whom was dominated by Bradley). Facing Porter, Khan, or even Zab Judah would've been more interesting to me. Pacquiao ov Vargas by 10th round TKO, then he calls out Mayweather for a rematch saying he's ready THIS TIME 😂😂😂

Timothy Rouse " _DLH, Margarito, and Cotto were at catchweights._ " Not only catchweights, but it was VERY important that they were coming off huge losses before Pacquiao would fight them. Don't be fooled into thinking that catchweights are the only way to manipulate an opponents weight. There are also rehydration clauses that prevent a fighter from exceeding a stipulated weight during the rehydrating period. Roach knows all of those old school tricks. " _Tho Pacquiao did look good against Bradley, but he lost all momentum with me facing Vargas (a decent C+/B- fighter whom was dominated by Bradley)._ " Why would Pacquiao take a difficult fight? He's gotten this far with his catchweights, dehydration clauses and by passing off his vacant and interim belts as championships. Why would Pacquiao start legitimately trying to be a contender now? Think about it. Pacquiao had NEVER fought anyone ranked better than 5th at welterweight until he fought Floyd Mayweather in 2015. Now being that Pacquiao had been fighting as a welterweight since 2008, its bewildering to realize that he hadn't fought even one world champion or even top 3 contender from 2008-2015. Yet HBO and the BWAA have turned a blind eye toward that blatant dishonesty. HBO and the BWAA instead hailed Pacquiao as a hero of sorts for the inflated stories that they told about him. But they were just stories. Pacquiao has had more hype and marketing in his career than any other fighter in history. He's a fable, not a legend. The man was purported to have done things he never did .. and he struggled against men who not great themselves. Nice talking with you.

+J Smith Excellent analysis, you're definitely a student of boxing unlike these DCAF'S everywhere. Have a great one.....

+linjohn39823 Coming from a Pactard like yourself, you're statement says nothing..... Have a great day!

how many boxers trainers sacked ariza 4 , 5 ?

I agree 100%, People tend to study you more as time goes by and may apply new tactics learned from previous opponents mistakes. Most FLOMOS here to no surprise as usual are just ignorant and stupid

Yeah, that faint + 1 2 combination isnt working anymore. Before, guys who fought manny just brace their head for it.

pacman flatten marquez face 3 times and 4 times

(Using Someone else's account, so if you respond, it's unlikely that I'll read it) As for your boy, he got schooled by Bradley, who Pacquiao beat soundly. He had also broken your boys nose, bruised both of his eyes, & cut the bridge of his nose before the KO. Manny took an unneeded risk, which cost him a fight that he was winning. Plus, Marquez will always be suspect for working with P.E.D. Extrordinaire Memo Heredia. The man that bragged on film about his capability to make undetectable designer P.E.D's. Yes, you're right, Manny's older & so's Marquez, who looked like a turtle against the Desert Storm. JMM wouldn't even undergo VADA testing, the real deal Olympic style drug testing. Manny outclassed Rios, a fight that Tyson praised. Rios was also taking some illegal shit to make weight & Mayweather broke the rules to vs. Pacquiao & got a free pass via USADA, who doesn't enforce any of WADA's standards. I'll give Marquez credit for his tenacity & toughness, but he's still suspect. Manny defeated 2 undefeated boxers in Algeiri and Bradley, getting knock downs in both fights. As for Ariza, he lets his hate for Roach influence his behavior, & only a weak man lets the behavior of others dictate their behavior.

@@Daybr3ak1991 marquez put your idol to sleep.

Marquez was bitch he use steroids before fight Pacquiao

You’re obviously a noob. I’ve been watching elie since he started around 2008. The whole reason why he got into boxing was because of Pacquiao. He said it himself a million times. Before boxing he was only covering basketball. So of course he owes a lot to Pacquiao.

@@Ryan-ix6dt you didn't address the steroids, and why he went from knocking everyone out, to never knocking anyone out since he took blood and urine tests?

@@jamo2798 No one cares if he was on steroids. Everyone knows he was but people still love him anyways. Plus every boxers on steroids.

What was Floyd’s weakness?

Manny never say that he doesn’t want to knock out his opponents anymore because he is now a Christian . Only people give that opinion and it’s not manny’s doing . Why the haters always twists what manny say and not say ??? You are just a hater and a fan of other fighter that’s why you hate other good fighter than your Idol.

Say that to Matthyse

+Silky Johnson lolol senzu beans

goes to show most in the YTBC are just IGNORANT and plain STUPID. Can you enlighten me about the ILLEGAL 750ml of IV fluid which is restricted by WADA and was just given a T.U.E (Theraputic Use Exemption) 20 days AFTER the fight? The fight was ran by Mayweather Promotions and in VEGAS right? If Manny was the one with the IV scandal I bet my house people like you would have gone rallying the streets, but why does Floyd get a pass? And plain and simple, Most Welterweights walk around at 160 to 170lbs. Manny walks around at 145lbs, Manny had his last legit knockout at 140lbs.Manny was never a Welterweight you stupid Cunt. JUST FUNNY HOW IGNORANT AND BIASED you people

goes to show most in the YTBC are just IGNORANT and plain STUPID. Can you enlighten me about the ILLEGAL 750ml of IV fluid which is restricted by WADA and was just given a T.U.E (Theraputic Use Exemption) 20 days AFTER the fight? The fight was ran by Mayweather Promotions and in VEGAS right? If Manny was the one with the IV scandal I bet my house people like you would have gone rallying the streets, but why does Floyd get a pass? And plain and simple, Most Welterweights walk around at 160 to 170lbs. Manny walks around at 145lbs, Manny had his last legit knockout at 140lbs.Manny was never a Welterweight you stupid Cunt. JUST FUNNY HOW IGNORANT AND BIASED you FLOMOS are LOL

+Jose Jose awe somebody's feelings were hurt lol

Jose Jose Why u bring up Floyd?? You pactards stay putting yourselves on blast 😂😂😂😂

i agree. so why bother asking this idiot Ariza.

Wrong. Manny won the first. 2nd and ESPECIALLY the third was a ROBBERY. Then Marquez knocked him the fuck out

Not only that but are we supposed to assume Floyd did`nt take steroids? As a matter of fact I believe Floyd was the one that tested positive for a banned substance and not Manny! so why does Floyd get a free pass?

+jodeci parker lol please don't count Victor Ortiz as a knock down lmao his guard was completely down

I think it was that time the other geezer was looking at the ref .lol

Floyd has more wins by ko than decision.

@@winycityfightfan floyd used iv and it isnt even a peds lol plus no sign of him of using peds lol he looks old slow he fought the same way he fought used smart tactics and pure skill lol even pac said " floyd didnt do nothing, i can handle his power" lol no sign of peds

Well put, honest and without bias.

FLOMO ALERT

Wrong thats the last thing to go. Its usually speed and timing that goes first. Go ask foreman

He is trying to get back to Manny's team. Floyd didn't need Ariza, he was using Ariza to mind fuck with Manny

he don't like them cuz he got the sack , jog on , lol, I thought he was OK till I saw him kick roach in the chest the prick.and why's everyone or a lot of peeps cussing kell brook who else wants GGG ? noone in america our welters having to fight him.

Mayweather is the most untrustworthy fighter who care only about money and lousy 0 loss . Who wants to fight if he got Advantages against his opponents. Who will trust that hugger , runner and arm puller of a guy like Floyd ? He is the real user and he just accused manny so that manny will look bad because he knows that manny is better than him when he don’t cheat on manny he won’t Gonna win against manny.