Foregoing the arguments about Collins, Alex Fergusons knowledge and respect of Irish history is brilliant.
@grahamfleming76424 жыл бұрын
@James Henderson ignorant pig
@germurtagh72884 жыл бұрын
@James Henderson discussing comment shame on you🤨
@karlthomas80314 жыл бұрын
@James Henderson well you sound like a thundering prick of limited sense.
@germurtagh72884 жыл бұрын
@MrMervinJMinky yes we don't like the English too much 🇮🇪👍😁
@patsig76324 жыл бұрын
@James Henderson The best way to reply to such a comment, in my humble opinion,would be to refrain from giving it the dignity of a reaction at all. 'Hopefully this will be the least reaction to such a comment.
@lucabrasi39644 жыл бұрын
I'm Scottish and we learned about Micheal Collins and the Irish struggle for independence in school. One of my favourite history subjects and i have nothing but respect and admiration for the Irish heroes who fought and died for their country
@lucabrasi39644 жыл бұрын
@@antseanbheanbocht4993 aye it was part of the curriculum and we had to write an assay and do a test on it, we even watched the Micheal Collins film with Liam neeson lol it was a Catholic school so maybe that had something to do with it
@noghd25604 жыл бұрын
@@antseanbheanbocht4993 Scottish curriculum has Easter rising and Potato famine. Scottish curriculum is very different from the English, English won't mention Scotland or Ireland once.
@krisc25354 жыл бұрын
I'm English and the only way I properly learnt about the Irish Potato famine was through reading the Readers Digest book of Great Disasters. It was mentioned a fair bit and English people are aware of it, it just isn't in the curriculum (well it wasn't when I was growing up)
@shooterblaze14 жыл бұрын
Terrorists you mean
@antseanbheanbocht49934 жыл бұрын
@@shooterblaze1 Amadán.
@usandusonly32 Жыл бұрын
Alex Ferguson knows more about Irish history than leo varadkar.
@levieenrose7646 Жыл бұрын
Michael Colins, the big man from Cork, will be forever one of the greatest heroes Ireland ever had. 🇮🇪
@MrGanaface4 жыл бұрын
Alex Ferguson is a legend of men, this just sets it in stone.
@alangregg55208 жыл бұрын
DeValera knew he couldn't deliver the 32 county Republic and didn't want to take the blame for the failure to do so.
@albertgrant66707 жыл бұрын
Alan Gregg. ypu are absolutely correct .
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
The 32 County Republic was already functioning from 1919. The treaty put an end to it
@footballireland36235 жыл бұрын
An Barr Buadh that’s not true at all. The Government of Ireland Act 1919/20 gave Ireland a Republican government in Dublin and a Loyalist government in Belfast. It still kept the partition. The 32 counties have never been freed since Ireland was first invaded
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
@@footballireland3623 The All-Ireland Republic was functioning from January 1919, it had its own courts, police, all Ireland parliament, and army, the IRA. The government of Ireland act was December 1920 to introduce two partition parliaments to break people's allegiance to the All-Ireland Dáil. Republicans boycotted it and formed the 2nd Dail in 1921. The treaty put an end to it when the British got a section to support partition. The republian courts were suppressed, the republican police, and then the army was attacked by the free state one.
@johnmccarthy1685 жыл бұрын
Collins was shot by his own people
@ThefightingCelt2 жыл бұрын
Although Sir Alex was brought up a Protestant, and was an avid Rangers supporter growing up ( later to play for them ), he was not bigoted in any way, and as we know, he married a Catholic woman. His bother, Martin, supported Celtic . Sir Alex Ferguson is a clever man and his knowledge of Michael Collins and that period of Irish history is exemplary.
@seanbouk2 жыл бұрын
His mother was a Catholic too
@christopherlynch90065 ай бұрын
Both his parents were from mixed Protestant and Catholic marriages
@58johnjohn10 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins was the greatest Irishman ever. Had he not been murdered we would have been spared the dour De-Valera years, Collins was far more dynamic. As De-Valera said himself, ''In the fullness of time history will record the greatness of Michael Collins,and it will be at my expense''.
@615057 жыл бұрын
maybe i am exaggerating things but maybe, just maybe, there would not have been magdalene laundries and industrial schools and while the church would have had its place, it would not have been allowed so much dominance-separation of church and state.
@RobertK19937 жыл бұрын
johnners clonkerbernard Killed by the greedy Brits and that coward De Velera who made Ireland unwelcoming to non Catholics.
@patcorr91487 жыл бұрын
No Martina, you are not exaggerating.
@declanwalsh14766 жыл бұрын
Yes you are exaggerating should never ever signed
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
@@61505 the laundries started in the 1800's
@giggergigger14 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know Fergie was a fan of irish history , very good
@giggergigger14 жыл бұрын
@Adam Marshall yep he was pretty crap!
@AwRighttttt4 жыл бұрын
@Enoch Power shhhhhhhhhh up Yeh muppet
@nigecheshire98544 жыл бұрын
@Enoch Power gud vid hehe good man
@madleprechaun34314 жыл бұрын
He's not a fan of Ireland,he's a ranger's fan a blue nose.The wind that shakes the barley is mostly bull shit.
@madleprechaun34314 жыл бұрын
@@AwRighttttt 🤣🤣🤣
@adamoleary30293 жыл бұрын
There are no words to describe how much I love and respect this man.
@ciaranwalsh2131 Жыл бұрын
Genius recognizes Genius
@hoolley10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. My opinion of Alex Ferguson has gone up.
@bacfrere9 жыл бұрын
+Jo Moreland me too . in fact, i couldn't stand the guy before i saw/heard this clip. ps i am english but we have the benefit of irish radio in the south west and it is so much better than bbc!
@grlfcgombeenhunter28975 жыл бұрын
I was just about to write the same FairPlay to him.
@brianbozo24474 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@gutworm6864 жыл бұрын
Mine has gone down.
@asmith90404 жыл бұрын
A Rangers fan from a Glaswegian Protestant family, if he hadn’t been pushed out of ibrox for marrying his Catholic partner , his career and RFC history might have been very different.
@red4life8482 жыл бұрын
Massive respect for Alex Ferguson what a man. Liverpool fan 👍
@emmettking77175 жыл бұрын
As an Irish Arsenal fan, I always knew Ferguson was an intelligent man, this interview only reinstates this fact. I've always had a kind of respect for the man and I hope he stays well after his recent health scare.
@jamesbradshaw33892 жыл бұрын
You are also an intelligent and very smart man and you know fotball
@Jack-r2v9b Жыл бұрын
Yes I'm a gunner but you can't disrespect someone like sir Alex, stand out manager of my generation without doubt
@masoodahmed20414 жыл бұрын
Wow I thought I would never hear a premier league manager speak with such pragmatic intellect and analysis a great commentary and understanding of Irish history...well done sir!!
@WakaWaka24684 жыл бұрын
Fergie was different to every other manager. Can't imagine Pep Guardiola being this intelligent
@masoodahmed20414 жыл бұрын
Liam Gallagher No, I heard Warnock once give a passionate defence of Brexit but not sure of any other manager who can speak with the knowledge of Collins, De Valera, 26 v 32 counties and the subtle nuisances of Irish history.
@RB-NZ24 жыл бұрын
Liam Gallagher pep is intelligent lad doubt he’d give a fuck about Irish history when his own home of Catalonia is going through something which he’d obviously be more invested in
@francishuddy94623 жыл бұрын
@@WakaWaka2468 No, you are wrong. Pep Guardiola is, rightly, a Catalonia nationalist .. He probably knows all about Ireland ...
@siofra38192 жыл бұрын
His Mother was an Irish Catholic from Enniskillen
@horseman64682 жыл бұрын
Collins was Irelands best hope for the future ,if he had lived Ireland would have progressed so much faster .Dev kept the country ,particularly rural Ireland under the thumb of the Bishops for forty years.
@fromireland86632 жыл бұрын
@horseman64. I would question that. Dev had a tough time keeping McQuade at bay.
@jamesbradshaw33892 жыл бұрын
My dear father was proven to be completely correct almost time that he spoke, he was a gentle, kind and thoughtful man who lited lifted his hand to any of his 11 children all during his hardworking life, he was not a man to give his opinions very often but when he spoke we listened and remember, I recall what he said about De Valera and how he kept the people down by his own beliefs, Dev was not a bad man but somethings that he did and do not do helped to keep the poor and less well of poor and less well off
@jackjones95872 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbradshaw3389 I wonder what Collins and Dev would have thought about Ireland being sold out to the EU troika deal?
@kommissar.murphy2 жыл бұрын
realistically, it would have probably worked out much the same. If Connoly had survived, both the firing squad, AND cancer, things would have been way different.
@UncleKlausSchwab2 жыл бұрын
A profoundly ignorant comment that exposes your lack of knowledge. No one was under any thumb, they chose to do so. We had secret ballots and people could have voted for a secular party but they didn't want it.
@siobhanmurray92324 жыл бұрын
Never knew Alex was a fan of Irish history and of Michael Collins 🇮🇪 fair play to him.
@johnlavery61164 жыл бұрын
Me to...Greetings from Ireland
@claddaghclare224 жыл бұрын
Me neither.
@triestodrum22154 жыл бұрын
No Surrender to IRA terrorists.
@anonymousalias.50594 жыл бұрын
@@triestodrum2215 ira today are scumbags, but their rise especially after ww2 was justified. catholics simply had enough of the oppression and chose to rise up. the uvf were shite compared to the highly organised ira
@paulreynolds71034 жыл бұрын
@@triestodrum2215 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@robcampbell63202 жыл бұрын
God bless Ireland. Michael Collins is a true hero. If only Scots had the same courage.
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
Collins was shot for taking Oath to the King and collaborated with the British government. He died a traitor
@robcampbell63202 жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 I was not aware of that. Was this ever proved or was it to cover the political jockeying within the IRA leadership. Perhaps my view of Michael Collins was to a large extent influenced by my grandfather who thought very highly of Michael Collins.
@Irish7806 жыл бұрын
Yes. Collins was made a scapegoat by Dev alera
@claddaghclare224 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree.
@Irish7804 жыл бұрын
@@claddaghclare22 did you.know as the took his coffin on a ship to cork the met a British fighting ship and all stood to attention until it passed
@Irish7804 жыл бұрын
@Twilight living well seemly not everbody there was a civil war over it
@Irish7804 жыл бұрын
@Twilight living it was the cause of a civil war here in Ireland my point why did the not see at the time collins was made a scapegoat
@Irish7804 жыл бұрын
@Twilight living it was in cork i was in the pub he drank in before he left a lot off Cork people believe he got shot by one off his own men in the ambush we never will really know
@charliehunter7944 жыл бұрын
As an Northern Irish Protestant I’m amazed Sir Alex Ferguson is so interested in the history of the island of Ireland. Very educated man.
@BeltandBraces4 жыл бұрын
charlie hunter: Fergie is self taught, Irish history is not taught in brit schools that makes him a well read man
@johngilmore66882 жыл бұрын
Alex Ferguson could teach us all something, he was in the Boys'Brigade as a lad.
@jamesmuller10772 жыл бұрын
@@johngilmore6688 what is that?
@rodhurley11542 жыл бұрын
when are you people in the north are going to wake up and realise the english people want their billions of pounds back when ireland is united.
@philipbrennan4214 Жыл бұрын
@freebeerfordworkers I went to school in Dublin in the 50/60s and the Boys Brigade were active in the protestant schools then.
@patriciaharte81139 жыл бұрын
Very surprising that Alex knows so mush about Irish history.
@colmanlong10326 жыл бұрын
Patricia Harte what does he really know a fckin royalist unionist.
@irishjamesfitz5 жыл бұрын
If you are really interested in the history of Ireland the famine the Rebellion even up to 2008 people's property went right down the pan it's all on KZfaq you can spend a full day on I doubt if you remember it all go on KZfaq go back to 1880 's and to and really things started building young irish lads was with the British soldiers fighting in France against the Jerrys 1916 to 1918
@adambrown96694 жыл бұрын
Why Scotland avd Ireland are very similar
@francishealy29564 жыл бұрын
Not Really hes from Glasgow 🍀🍀🍀🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪☘☘☘
@jonathanmcaleece98344 жыл бұрын
colman long ah so you can’t be a royalist or unionist if your to know irish history. Fucking read a book you uneducated twat.
@mz.61095 жыл бұрын
It is Irish history and like it or not, Michael Collins was and still is a hero to the Folk of Eire
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
He's a traitor to a lot of us
@robinclarke99782 жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 but this is Ireland.
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
@@robinclarke9978 what do you mean
@dylanmckibbin88222 жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 so u would rather still Ireland be apart of Britain ? If Ireland fought on Churchill himself was prepared to bomb Ireland to a crisp I’m from the north and out day will come he’s no traitor
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
@@dylanmckibbin8822 6 counties still under British rule. The free staters were allies with the British and still are. The British army train the free state army and the RAF protect the skies above all 32 counties.
@retrocd79914 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most beautiful crossovers I've ever seen
@bookworm431410 жыл бұрын
Some of the comments here are deplorable...the man knows more about Irish history than most Irish people do and I am Irish.
@TerryBradshaw639 жыл бұрын
With you there Eamonn. Have to say I'm surprised
@trevscribbles6 жыл бұрын
Most have just been taught to spray "UP DA RA" on community center walls.
@Jie676 жыл бұрын
Trev Moran where as the rest are sent to band camp to march in honour of a poof and murderers.
@PTS825 жыл бұрын
Gael na hÉireann wouldn’t have been taught in Fergie’s school
@irishmike445 жыл бұрын
@Gael na hÉireann Well said
@FUNKINETIK3 жыл бұрын
The Big Fella was born 130 years ago today (16-10-1890). The Greatest Irish Hero.
@MarkHarrison733 Жыл бұрын
Collins was a traitor, which is why the IRA killed him.
@FUNKINETIK Жыл бұрын
@@MarkHarrison733 Érie would still be under British rule had it not been for Michael Collins.
@MarkHarrison733 Жыл бұрын
@@FUNKINETIK Incorrect. World War I had already destroyed the British Empire.
@tomtucker1984 Жыл бұрын
Brian Boru deserves a mention as the Irish goat too.
@patsig76324 жыл бұрын
I admire Alex Ferguson for overcoming the prejudice of so many people in Scotland, particularly Glasgow, my home town, in order to educate himself about the history not taught in schools when I was at school, a Catholic one. My learning of relevant Scottish and Irish history came once I had left school. It's the old tactic of the British empire, divide to conquer. Invade a country then use others to do their dirty work for them: the black and tans, give land as a reward, typical empire building tactics. The Westminster government does not care about the Scots, the Irish the Welsh or for that matter, the English working class. They only pay lip service to our concerns, especially when they need our votes or soldiers, front-line workers, ad infinitum.
@Mob1354 жыл бұрын
Its not prejudice more that one gets headaches trying to understand people from glssgow. I often cant even read a text either
@luboo40344 жыл бұрын
Mark O'Brien away and don’t talk shite and yer words only go to prove yee are a racist and anti Scottish av never heard an Irish man or woman say they struggle to understand a glaswegian or a Scotsman/woman for that matter mabey yee are just a wee bit thick / slow in the heed son fuckin EEJIT 🖕🏻
@luboo40344 жыл бұрын
Christy Dolan yee are clearly a racist BASTARD with yer jock comment yer a thick bastard that’s what yee are and to try and educate yee a wee bit because a now know yee really are a thick bastard Glasgow Celtic is 100% Irish mabey play in Scotland but our great club were founded by Irish men for the poor impoverished Irish immigrants that fled to Scotland to help feed them and cloth them so do yer history before yee slaver shite the only club out with Ireland that commemorates the famine and the people that died and wear a badge every year in wur strips the only club out with Ireland that has always flown the tricolor above the stand wur whole history of players past were all great Irish men Celtic are 100% an Irish club playing in Scotland it’s as simple as that but yee will be one of those turncoats that family probably fought everything the English done to your country and yet support an English team fuckin EEJIT and another thing the Scottish have given more to the world than any other country so mabey know what yer talking about before yee open that stupid silly mouth of yours DOGBREATH 🖕🏻
@mrblue25694 жыл бұрын
@@luboo4034 lol, what a load of pish.
@geraldwalsh64893 жыл бұрын
@@luboo4034 whoa! He is only winding you up! We Irish really like the Scots...chill out man
@islandbreeze13524 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins RIP ☘🙏🏽
@flippindeadly2 ай бұрын
The man interviewing Sir Alex here is Colm Murray, an Irish sports journalist who sadly died of Motor Neurone Disease in 2013 and fought his battle with great bravery.He was an institution in Irish households throughout my life and is sadly missed.
@kratosboy5557 Жыл бұрын
He was a good man
@MarkHarrison733 Жыл бұрын
He was a terrorist and a traitor.
@Seansaighdeoir8 жыл бұрын
Interesting to listen to Ferguson's take on this part of Irish history and more interesting to know that it actually interested him. Think he called it about right on Dev to.
@Fintanflaherty9 жыл бұрын
RIP Colm Murray. Loved the horses.
@seangoodspeed52104 жыл бұрын
DeVelera set him up. Absolute.
@seangoodspeed52104 жыл бұрын
@John Wickes yes he was. Shister!
@adamwatson96754 жыл бұрын
John Wickes wasnt a traitor
@adamwatson96754 жыл бұрын
The MightyKid dev didnt agree with the treaty like half the population so stood against it he diddnt betray he stood for what he believed 🤦🏻♂️
@mcdibbern99194 жыл бұрын
Regardless of De Valeria’s ( born in the US) decision not to enter WW2 a huge number of Irish men joined the British military and fought bravely. Incidentally De Valera signed a book of condolence on the death of Hitler at rather German embassy.
@davidsandz21862 жыл бұрын
Yup...I'm Glasgow born and bred, am a Rangers supporter but, like Alex, I've always been on the Irish republic's side...the Irish people have suffered for centuries under British domination...along with a cruelly corrupt Roman Catholic Church...but not anymore, they have shaken off both these "organisations" and are now a free and independent country enjoying the fruits that that freedom gives them. On your first point...I remember a conversation I had many years ago, when I was a teenager, with my Uncle Jack who had been a Commando during WW2.....I was saying how disappointed I was that Ireland had been neutral during that war...he angrily lnterrupted me saying "listen son, thousands of young Irish lads came over and joined British regiments in order to fight the fascist bastards"...those were his exact words and I've never forgotten them...a lesson well learnt.
@kommissar.murphy2 жыл бұрын
"Dear Hitler, sorry for your loss,lol.THanks for not invading us, Dev"
@TheLastAngryMan012 жыл бұрын
De Valera also organized a minute’s silence in the Irish Houses of Parliament upon the death of Roosevelt the week before. There were also a lot of crash landings in Ireland during the war, with German pilots being interned in prison camps, while British pilots were allowed to “escape” to Northern Ireland. Dev also sent fire brigades from Dublin to Belfast to douse the fires after the blitz up there. History is often complicated.
@irishelk33 жыл бұрын
I used to watch football and supported Liverpool, no interest in it at all anymore, but I always admired him and he made Man united seem a very seductive team that always looked like they were having all the glory and the most fun, and made every other team look totally boring, probably why all the best players went there... An intelligent man who worked his team like a great military strategist.
@irishelk33 жыл бұрын
@@WakaWaka2468 You're the second person to ask me that haha. They're good, the spirit world is alive and well, and that is 100% true.
@siofra38192 жыл бұрын
Alot of people forget that Alex Fergusons Mother was an Irish Catholic from Enniskillen
@nigelmurphy67616 жыл бұрын
RIP Michael Collins and Colm Murray
@diamondgeezertunes4 жыл бұрын
Sir Alex would have a great PM ... A real leader with a spine and conviction of his believes based from his working class and gritty background .. Top man
@Boxk1lla12 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant men. 🇮🇪❤
@jamiewalsh91842 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan i have to say fair fucks fergie !! A fan of Michael Collins cant believe im only discovering this now
@wonjubhoy10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting interview with the greatest ever Scottish football manager.
@niallocallaghan569910 жыл бұрын
Probably the greatest ever manager, certainly nobody better than him...
@ferdia74810 жыл бұрын
Niall O Callaghan yeah there is
@niallocallaghan569910 жыл бұрын
Conor Beggs No there is not, he is up there with the greatest, let himself down big time in his book but as a football manager, his record speaks for itself.. Forget about club allegiances and think of a manager that you can clearly say is / was better than him...
@ferdia74810 жыл бұрын
Niall O Callaghan helenio herrera
@niallocallaghan56999 жыл бұрын
Conor Beggs Great manager, but aint no fair to compare to Fergie, but your saying he was better, well thats madness, what fergie done at united and the teams he put together and the consistency of his success was so great that we never even think of what he achieved at Aberdeen...no mean feat to break the old firm, not been broken since i think...
@tacobell68265 жыл бұрын
With respect to Sir Alex, the fact that Collins was used as a sacrifice by the cowardly De Valera is pretty much universally acknowledged; especially in Ireland.
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
It's ahistorical nonsense. De Valera told them to report back to Dublin before signing anything
@Minime1632 жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 why didn't develara go and nigoate the treaty himself then the jellyfish he was president it was his duty but he shirked it and wheather he meant to or not started the civil war with his noncence. Collins and Griffith were never going to get a republic and he knew it plus partition was more or less a foregone conclusion but instead of facing up to reality he made scapegoats of Collins and the rest of the treaty signatories.
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
@@Minime163 De Valera previously went to London and rejected more or less the same terms. And they were to report back to him before signing so it wasn't a set up. That tactic was to relieve pressure on the team in London. We already had a Republic declared by the Irish people . It had a parliament, courts, police and army. The free staters dismantled every institution and when it came to the army it meant war.. Collins started the civil war and was armed by Britain to do their dirty work
@bascet19 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't De Velera there? Has that ever been answered? Collins and Griffiths were put in an impossible position.
@lovablesnowman8 жыл бұрын
Because DeVelera knew that the British would never offer an independent 32 county Ireland and didn't want to take the blame. He was a snake who started a civil war which killed nearly every major leader of the time.
@antseanbheanbocht49938 жыл бұрын
+bascet1 It is speculation at this point as to why De Valera did not go, but there are several possibilities. As president of Dail Eireann De Valera felt it was beneath him to be at the negotiating table as head of the Irish government. I am not sure whether he thought it was beneath him personally or if he believed it was beneath the office of the president of Dail Eireann itself ? He also said it was best that the British know that the real power to accept the treaty was at home in Ireland with himself and the provisional government, the plenipotentiaries could use this as leverage to get a better deal. It must be noted that even though the Irish delegation had been imbued with powers of plenipotentiary, they were under strict instructions from Dev not to sign without Dail approval. Many people dont realize that Dev had already been to see Lloyd George earlier in the year and he knew then himself that a Republic was not on the table. De Valera also had a huge ego, and there is no doubt in my mind that he would have went had he thought recognition of the Republic was on offer. We all know why he sent Collins, he even tried to send Collins to America to get him out of the way but Collins wouldn't go. Collins really was no match for De Valera in the political arena, De valera ran rings around him, and ultimately destroyed him.
@1798UnitedIrishMen8 жыл бұрын
+bascet1 first of all this talk of a 32 county republic had been off the cards long long before Collins ever held any position of power so the idea of that's why the civil war happened is hog wash. The civil war came about due to the fact the oath to the monarchy and dominion status. the six counties where unionist and that had been know since before the rising in 1916, carson ensure of that. So to the question of why did Dev send Collins, the Answer simply is Dev didn't want to be a signintory of the treaty. He knew fully that the republic was a pipe dream at that time. Dev knew full well people who'd been fighting a hard, harsh and bloody battle would not accept deminion status, thus why knew better than to put his name to it. Dev was a sly for lack of better words a fucking bastard, he goosed stepped many people into a civil war including my own great grand parents knowing full well he'd turn coat them too. Sure enough he did and in doing that created the most corrupt political party Ireland ever has had and still to this day corruption is rife within FF. So what does this mean? Basically I believe Dev knew full well what he was doing, he loathed the fact the Irish people looked at collins in such a shining light and was not afraid to go to seriously low levels to get rid of him. Why do I say this you might ask? first point is setting up FF. Second point he went after anti treaty IRA with more vigure than the free state ever did before, so basically Dev wanted Collins to do the hard work, then when the time was right, step out of the shadows and take power for himself, and he did just that.
@bdlb1008 жыл бұрын
+Crimhthan Mor no dev was just a coward who sent a gunman to do what he should have done
@antseanbheanbocht49938 жыл бұрын
bdlb100 Coward ? He did fight in Bolands mills though, and was next in line for execution wasnt he? what say you of that ? Surely not cowardly.
@chrisgjohnson1346 жыл бұрын
AMAZING INTERVIEW .....WITH A LIVING LEGEND ....
@jamesmurphy40215 жыл бұрын
People generally do not not know the true story behind DeValera. They are not told the full uncensored truth. He was responsible for a lot of misery in Ireland. If people knew the whole truth they would be ashamed as l am for what he said and did in our name.
@RC-fi8nn3 жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate on this?
@jamesbradshaw33892 жыл бұрын
I am from another land but every time I watched Alex Ferguson talk about his team Man United I listened very carefully, I fully believed that man could convince his players that they could walk on water for a little time if they only believed. Every time the very great Alex send his boys out to play they had an extra invisible man on the field of play and he was also called Alex
@speedster24642 жыл бұрын
Fergusons position on De Valera is of course correct, as an American I feel he felt he had more to prove than the Irish born. Had Collins and the Dail be permitted to operate then the partition of the island may have been reviewed and redressed, but the Civil War and the continued anti British/N.I. activities by the IRA have only created more division down through the decades.
@noodlyappendage67292 жыл бұрын
de Valera was also an American.
@Minime1632 жыл бұрын
The northern unionists even today hate everything to do with Ireland with a passion nobody can lead or drive them because they mistrust and hate the British government too they just hide behind their false brand of Britishness to keep them out of a United Ireland in reality they neither want the Irish or British they just want their own statelette where they can have everything their own way and put everyone who disagrees with them under foot.
@TeresaDonoghue18 күн бұрын
VERY INTERESTING 5 MINUTES SIR ALEX. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. GOD, HOW I HATE DEVALERA & HOW I LOVE MICHAEL COLLINS.
@user-sp2le5kx9f3 ай бұрын
More to Alex than you think. Good man Alex.
@daviddoherty33493 жыл бұрын
I did not realise Ferguson had this interest in Irish history, come across very well... from a Liverpool fan !
@tonyh79944 жыл бұрын
What a man 🇮🇪 🏴
@christineusher62042 жыл бұрын
A man that won't take responsibility, just blame the English and the irish will forget we werent involved.
@MrWhothefoxthat2 жыл бұрын
my great great grandfathers shop was destroyed in Dublin because of the troubles. the young ones today can not comprehend the commitment and passion of the old Irish people.
@Themedusatouch892 жыл бұрын
I'm a Liverpool fan....means nothing in this conversation.....but love Fergusons attitude to Collins and Irish history here.100%
@liamheffernan691110 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this.
@woodenpudden4 жыл бұрын
He mentioned that Dev refused to join the war.... We need to remember that the Brits lied to us before around home rule if we joined their wars and we were their cannonfodder.
@mmw49904 жыл бұрын
Great point. I think he probably would have stayed neutral regardless of that though if I'm being honest
@neilmccormick20643 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it wasn't just about fighting on the British side was it . WWII was essentially about standing up to the nazism and fascism that was sweeping across Europe crushing everything in its path. clearly that situation was a existential threat to everyone, including Ireland. It's naive to think Hitler would have left Ireland alone had he successfully invaded the UK. He would have invaded Ireland too without hesitation .
@neilmccormick20643 жыл бұрын
Neutrality wasn't a realistic option during WWII, you just have to look at what Hitler did to other neutral European countries like Holland etc,he didn't give a shit about their neutral status.
@momeara74823 жыл бұрын
@@neilmccormick2064 Of course neutrality was a realistic option during WWII - as Ireland proved. Switzerland proved it too.
@rogerarthur92312 жыл бұрын
A point about Ireland and neutrality in WW2, after the end of the war the british government said that "Ireland pushed the limits on neutrality in supporting the Allied cause as far as it was possible while staying neutral"
@normanashe4 жыл бұрын
Agree with fergie in his assessment of Michael Collins & De Valera. Very knowledgeable on Irish history.
@spritualelitist6652 жыл бұрын
WB Yeats is a fascinating Irish figure and poet. An Irish nationalist, a staunch Protestant and pagan but believed in a free Ireland. As a proud Englishmen I have a lot of respect for these types of men. It's a shame we don't have figures and men like this now. It's also a pity what the Irish government has done to Ireland, same for Britain as well.
@jmccullough662 Жыл бұрын
How can you be a staunch Protestant *and* a pagan?
@shanemcdonagh19794 жыл бұрын
Liverpool fan and not only was he one of the greatest managers not the greatest 😉 but a real nice guy and couldnt agree more with him history shows collins was done over but will always be a legend
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
How was he done over? He could have said no
@l.carew54 Жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 if he had said no the British threatened to do a full force invasion dev knew he wouldn’t get the answers he wanted and didn’t want to take the blame
@shredder9536 Жыл бұрын
@@l.carew54 That's an old wives tale. The delegates were told to report back to Dublin before signing anything and they didn't do it. Churchill admitted in his memoirs the threat of war was a bluff. That was De Valeras reason for not going. The buck would stop with him and the cabinet away from the gruelling negotiations which wore collins and Co down
@johnnotrealname81686 ай бұрын
@@l.carew54I have no clue if it was a bluff but with time for re-arming and the backlash against a full-scale invasion I do think it was a bluff. He could have rejected the treaty.
@trainsandbusesirelandandbeyond3 жыл бұрын
I think this is incredible. Especially the way he played for Rangers in his life and supports them🇮🇪🏴
@ThefightingCelt3 жыл бұрын
Sir Alex's " love " of Rangers Football Club waned after he was made the scapegoat for their 1969 Scottish Cup Final 4-0 defeat by Celtic . He didn't kick another ball for Rangers after that match , but firmly believes that the real reason he was ostracized was due to fact that he had married a Roman Catholic , which was frowned upon by the pro protestant club .
@andrewmcmaster63642 жыл бұрын
Fergusons time as a player with Rangers ended because he wasn't good enough. No other reason. Rangers had several players around that time who were married to Catholics. Rangers were looking for better players than Ferguson and the fact his career went downhill after leaving shows that Rangers made the correct decision.
@thomasferguson30612 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmcmaster6364 name one
@smallfeet45812 жыл бұрын
@@ThefightingCelt jock stein was a prod which is why the club was going to get rid of him but they were forced to rethink on that and kept him ,
@francishealy29562 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmcmaster6364 That's rubbish Ferguson said in his book he should have to rangers to get to fuck
@davidmurphy84806 жыл бұрын
God bless us Irish !
@ShaneC274 жыл бұрын
He knows his Irish history
@gonedetectinguk59064 жыл бұрын
God bless Michael Collins in our hour of need why did you go ☘️ From Scotland 🙏
@ronalddunne34137 жыл бұрын
as the song asks: "Who was the man that gave the command for to shoot the brave Michael Collins?".. Answer is simple: The slinking little dictator- the man who ran away to America while Collins stood and fought- Eamon de Valera
@johnoneill97816 жыл бұрын
Ronald Dunne O
@stephenmcdonagh63035 жыл бұрын
Dev tried to stop the assassination but he hadn’t got the authority, with them being rivals on opposing side why would anyone expect Dev to call round to him and give him a heads up? The people who lived through these times elected Dev for two terms as president
@claddaghclare224 жыл бұрын
Ye he had a part in it for sure albeit not directly as a Machiavellian character; he simply sat back and let events unfold which were ultimately unfavourable to Collins. Develera was also in the area on the same day.
@craigthomson39416 жыл бұрын
He's 100% right about Dev.
@time4change8782 жыл бұрын
Hi A friend of mine was very close to Alex in his playing days at Dunfermline and from what he told me Alex always was a very astute thinker. I myself am a proud Englishman of protestant descent. That does not make me a supporter in any way of the British establishment. I know that the Irish history is a complex one and easy answers only exist in bigoted simple thinking. Showing support for the rights of people who act in a way that we would not always agree with or even feel comfortable with is the only way forward that offer the hope of lasting peace. I did hear a statement once that went something like I may disagree with what you say but I would fight and die for your right to say it. Peace needs more than compromise. It needs acceptance. I hope one day Ireland can be united through acceptance of the right to be different.
@freespirit9064 жыл бұрын
SAF is a legend
@Moonsabie8 жыл бұрын
my Irish uncles did the fighting in ww2 with the Americans they where McDonnell's. drafted to fight but still they did.
@johnduggan83982 жыл бұрын
I've never known Ferguson was this interesting.
@Jonathan-pg2hd4 жыл бұрын
Scottish independence is coming 🏴 and Ireland will soon have its 6 counties 🇮🇪
@Jonathan-pg2hd4 жыл бұрын
ravi oli Scottish independence will happen in the next 5 years I reckon 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴 and Ireland will get there 6 counties back soon aswelll I believe! 🇮🇪
@geraldwalsh64893 жыл бұрын
What about Cornwall??
@Jonathan-pg2hd3 жыл бұрын
@@geraldwalsh6489 go for it why not Cornwall and the north of England are not represented properly by westminister all they care about is london and the south!
@alangregg63377 жыл бұрын
De Valera was an opportunistic so and so. He dropped Collins in it because he knew he would never be able to come back with the 32 county republic. Collins was sent to take the fall.
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
What nonsense, the 32 County Republic wasn't sitting over in London for someone to bring it home. The 32 County Republic was functioning from 1919, the All-Ireland Dail, police courts and army. Collins went to war to destroy it armed by the British. A traitor if there ever was one
@cigh74455 жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 Functioning underground, with zero control over the unionist majority areas in northern Ireland. Fighting a successful guerilla war against the British army in areas that were Irish and nationalist was one thing, to do the same against the British army in majority unionist areas, heavily armed unionists I might add (the British never tried to prevent them from getting guns the way they did for the IVF), would have been a huge ask.
@martinweiss30544 жыл бұрын
Alan Gregg Machiavellian! PS Check out backtobasicsradio.com- excellent Christian teaching!
@pgrothschild4 жыл бұрын
@@liamb5546 and in the end you all fought in vain seeing how the EU has now ensured Irishmen and women will become a minority in their own country by 2050.
@lukeotoole69704 жыл бұрын
Boy Racer good god the ignorance
@RobertK19937 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins was the greatest Irishmsn who ever lived.
@TyronePatOne6 жыл бұрын
no Tom Crean was
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
He was a traitor
@danielthevito90085 жыл бұрын
@@shredder9536 No he wasnt. He did more for Ireland than any other person did in centuries. DeValera set him up, he knew he couldnt win an election against Michael Collins so he sent him to sign the treaty to build resentment against Collins. Also if Michael Collins is a traitor for not getting northern ireland back wouldnt that make DeValera a traitor as well for not accepting Winston Churchills deal to join WW2 in exchange for Ireland getting Northern Ireland.
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
@@danielthevito9008 Collins was a traitor. He took an oath to defend the Irish Republic against 'all enemies foreign and domestic'and he ended up collaborating with the British receiving weapons to destroy the Republic. He even admitted committing treachery punishable by death by stating he signed his own death warrant and he was correct. De Valera was a traitor too, he joined the free state and ended up hanging IRA volunteers. Churchills offer in WW2 was a complete bluff. Nobody takes it seriously.
@RobertK19935 жыл бұрын
An Barr Buadh Compromise
@rivolinho8 жыл бұрын
Anyone who knows Ferguson's managerial methods knows that full control and an invasive knowledge of his player's lives, particularly their social lives, was a big aspect of his approach. I think Collins' spy network in pre civil war Dublin would have intrigued him for that reason alone! I think he called it on Dev too. Collins' himself said he was " just a soldier" and unsuitable for brokering deals in a political snake pit. Dev was a political snake of the highest order, and what do all political snakes do to power rivals to this very day..... they get rid of them. The question is, did Dev make the ultimate call in that in order to secure his coveted power.
@comhan18888 жыл бұрын
agreeded
@laurenmurphy66488 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting how collins said the treaty gives us freedom to achieve freedom which is very true ireland is very close to unification
@pato22007 жыл бұрын
+Lauren Murphy yes I believe you are right. Collins realised it was best to accept what was offered as the alternative was nothing. the Zionists accepted a tiny state in 1947 whereas the Arabs rejected it. since then they in abba ebans words have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. the Israelis understood history. if De valera had backed Collins, all three objectives might have been realised in time.
@togmufc4 жыл бұрын
Will you stop .FFS 😁😋
@davestover15842 жыл бұрын
Love the big fella we need him back
@bacfrere9 жыл бұрын
alex f mentions the film - when the wind shakes the barley - great film/ recommended
@bobdylanger30226 жыл бұрын
Freewheeling Frere just watched it on utube last night.. great film!
@claddaghclare224 жыл бұрын
Its heart wrenching ... Sobbed.
@tankc64742 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins irish hero and legend rest in peace 💚
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
Irish traitor he took oath to the king and empire
@albionmyl77352 жыл бұрын
🙏🇩🇪❤️
@tankc64742 жыл бұрын
@@albionmyl7735 respect to Germany 🇩🇪 👏
@Minime1632 жыл бұрын
The only real leader Ireland ever really had R.I.P Mick.
@tankc64742 жыл бұрын
@@Minime163 👍💚
@jayd19742 жыл бұрын
Sir Alex you are a legend from a die hard Man UTD fan from Manchester 👍
@heliotropezzz3332 жыл бұрын
De Valera knew he wouldn't get full independence for Ireland from those talks, which is why he sent Collins. Collins was to be the scapegoat. Collins didn't want to go saying he was not a politician.
@philipocallaghan47784 жыл бұрын
I always had great respect for Alex Ferguson real old school came up playing part time football and serving his apprenticeship eventually playing for the Rangers, always spoke well about Celtic, his mother was a practicing catholic,but decided for his sake there was better opportunities being raised a protestant in Glasgow back then. After retiring from professional football he went into managing 3rd division club's in Scotland and eventually breaking the old firm stranglehold of Scottish football with Aberdeen. Funny when Manchester United approached him the financial offer was less than what Aberdeen were paying him. 🍀⚽️🇮🇪💚🏴
@KryptonitetoallBS4 жыл бұрын
All accurate apart from the financial offer. He increased his salary from Aberdeen when he started @ United.
@thehighlander47714 жыл бұрын
James Henderson hope you have one for that comment
@balor76 жыл бұрын
The interviewer insults Michael Collins by saying his network is ruthless. Alex replied that they were facing a ruthless enemy. Probably the most ruthless of all. Alex sounds more knowledgeable. It's war of course they were ruthless. They were being systematically slaughtered by the English for decades.
@cregz2670 Жыл бұрын
De Valera refused to join the war because he knew it was a bluff Churchill wouldn’t have guaranteed the six counties
@alcoyne3333333333333 Жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan . Now I can admire Alex. And this has made me a little bit of a fan
@JoanBcollins9 жыл бұрын
I am an ancestor of Michael Collins... So my Auntie in Cork says! .. Not long ago I watched a documentary, that was made in the 70s , it was banned at the time. Fascinating! Hang out your Colours I think it's called..
@bacfrere9 жыл бұрын
+Joan Collins i doubt you are an ancestor - you would need to be well over 100 years old! i will try to find hang out ur colours
@thecoolone828 жыл бұрын
+Freewheeling Frere why do you doubt she could be an ancestor?
@ShatteringIllusions18 жыл бұрын
+thecoolone82 Because an ancestor is born before. Joan means she is a descendant.
@thecoolone828 жыл бұрын
ShatteringIllusions1 i totally missed that one haha, thanks
@noodles19168 жыл бұрын
+Joan Collins Collins in your name? Yep, an ancestor.
@Fiannoigisland4 жыл бұрын
"ye did nothing but change. the colour of. the flag".......wind that shakes the barley.... best quote
@dpaterson7107 жыл бұрын
Ferguson is a hypocrite. He was utterly against the peaceful campaign for Scottish independence and denigrated anyone involved with it or anyone who supported it. He spoke of them with contempt. Yet here he is supportive of Irish independence which was obviously achieved by violent means. I say this as an admirer of Collins.
@RobertK19937 жыл бұрын
Danny Paterson Scots were never opressed but the Ulster Scots sure think they were by Irish Catholics.
@dpaterson7107 жыл бұрын
Robert Kelly - not sure what your point is ?
@seankinsellasean7 жыл бұрын
The Scots rule the U.K as a union, it's not like their second class citizens or are being ruled by the English
@dpaterson7107 жыл бұрын
seankinsellasean - the Irish were also in a union with Britain and by the early 1900's most definitely could be said to no longer be oppressed. Didn't stop them wanting their own self determination. You don't have to be oppressed to want independence. Independence for nations is the same as for people; it's about seeking your own destiny in the world under your own terms.
@MrBagpipes19716 жыл бұрын
That last post by you is super and so well worded.Fair play.
@bsastarfire2502 ай бұрын
Fergal Keane's history of Ireland is great.
@johnsparkjm4 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview, with the recognition of the struggle “prior the civil war for this comment” , against a force that was indeed ruthless, barbaric ,toxic and of a power hungry ideology for centuries , I hope he visits as he will be very much welcomed to Béal na Bláth and Glasnevin cemetery by all Irish people or respecting people alike
@nadinecollins44436 жыл бұрын
I am a direct descendant of Micheal Collins his brother John Collins had three kids one was my grandfather but his wife died and he put them up for adoption the church then found a home for him and his siblings with a catholic family in tomuntoul Scotland a university professor was doing her thesis on Mick and interviewed my uncle and she had a photo of mick when he was 20 and my uncle who's name is also Micheal Collins is his double my middle name is Micheal and my surename is Collins the same as my sons I just wish I could find some real documented evidence but none exists of and births and deaths during the time of the Irish civil war
@shredder95365 жыл бұрын
Lies
@paulreynolds71034 жыл бұрын
Naaa
@hirepgym69132 жыл бұрын
Mick was my dads cousin i still have something he used the family hardly mentioned him but always smiled when they did .
@johnnypatrickhaus8902 жыл бұрын
Jaysus. Never knew himself was so well versed on Irish history. Fair play. Maith thú.
@PercussusResurgo4 жыл бұрын
Not for the first time a Politician let a military hero take the fall for their own failings.
@jgdooley20034 жыл бұрын
The split affected my own family in that my father opted for one side of the treaty split and my uncle opted for the other. Luckily they became adults in the 1950's but the shadow of the civil war lasted right up to my lifetime in the 60's and 70's and is only now being cast aside in politics.
@shredder95362 жыл бұрын
It's still there I hate the pro treaty traitors
@harryclarke32172 жыл бұрын
Very knowledgeable about our history .............impressive especially coming from his background.
@Michaelx-yk8fo3 ай бұрын
Fair play Fergie. Cmmdt Collins was a brilliant commander. His intelligence got are foot in the door. Dashing brilliant man
@nitramkeane828 жыл бұрын
Dev was a sneeky bast..d
@pm-jv4ys4 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins a true man and hero .. our country is ran by snowflakes now
@velvetunderpants442 жыл бұрын
Something to remember about the British promise to end partition if Ireland were to help in WW2- There was a similar promise made at the outbreak of WW1 when the Irish were encouraged to join the army in return for self-determination. Never happened..
@manticore49522 жыл бұрын
It never happened because the Rising happened. The WW2 promise never happened because Ireland remained neutral.
@lithiummano7 ай бұрын
I love this man so much
@johnpasifull5644 жыл бұрын
Sir Alex I'm a man utd armchair fan and fellow Scotsmen born in Dundee Scotland 1964 but unfortunately I have been unemployed for 17 years now I love Irish films like name of the father, the wind that shakes the barley, Sunday bloody Sunday, Michael Collins, incendiary, and I love Irish rebel songs like Kevin Barry Black and tan, to name just 2 great songs and I also love flower of Scotland and Scotland the brave and a singer called janey kirk sings a song called Scotland forever love it and I hope your family and friends and all man utd staff players and family's are staying safe OK yours Mr John bravedart /braveheart /dundonian destroyer pasifull those are my main 3 nicknames for my darts playing here in England in Norfolk Sundays nights super league darts when we get back to it after this virus comes to an end and I'd love for you to help ole get all these guys and keep pogba ingahlo OK here goes sancho soteldo savic niguez party zakari Zaha grelish salilsu plea tete pedrinho ververde camavinga maddison kimmich quinn isomhen soumare dembele depay delifauo decoure sarr varann varratti van der beek marquinhos klivert haaland Ronaldo mmbpe neymar nangoolan hamsik perisic chicaretto herera and sorry but I think it's time cos to many injuries Jones rojo dalot and not good enough now cos age or want to or wanted by other teams sanchez lingard matic mata I'd lone peraria chong gomez garner laird ect to championship teams for first team football game time
@nev77114 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview with Sir Alex. I've had the feeling De Valera rode on anti-British sentiment to be popular. I'm so glad Ireland is moving on and relationships with the ordinary people of Britain continue to grow. Would Michael Collins have signed the book of condolence at the German Embassy in Dublin when Adolf Hitler died in 1945? Please correct me, as I'm sure De Valera did!
@imedi4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it Collins didn't hate Churchill the way dev did .. Dev expressing is condolences to Germany on the death of hitler was as much to do with giving two fingers to Churchill as feeling any sympathy for Germany ultimately a bad move give what the world was at that stage beginning to find out what Hitler did during the war
@ranica474 жыл бұрын
What does "moving on" mean? To me it's a pithy phrase that some people say to excuse a lack of interest in, or understanding of, history. Knowing one's nation's history is no bad thing, doesn't necessarily make one hate citizens of our former colonial masters. Pushing aside our history for convenience sake in an attempt to appear more world wise and sophisticated is just sad, an abdication of our citizenry. Would you expect English people not to celebrate their history? French? American? Not likely. Is "moving on" simply a euphemism for "we're lesser than other countries, we should be ashamed of our past and denigrate it in order to be modern?"
@nev77114 жыл бұрын
@@ranica47 Well everything that lives will 'move on' to whatever future it brings. It was not a phrase that was meant to be 'pithy'. The founders of the Irish nation would be proud of how many young Irish people embraced education to make the Ireland of today.
@ranica474 жыл бұрын
@@nev7711 Fair enough, from your point of view. Usually when it's used it's in conjunction with "holding on to the past" "stupid republicanism" "we don't need to be united, let it go" etc. Too much kowtowing to unionism. I 100% acknowledge their right to their cultural past and preference but they are big time guilty of absolute denial of nationalists preference in the North. "A protestant state for protestant people" was often used as if a majority meant the absolute non existence of the minority. Tbh they're only the majority in Antrim, Down and Armagh, the east of NI, Fermanagh, Derry and Tyrone are majority nationalist even though that's not always politically obvious because of gerrymandering.
@Minime1632 жыл бұрын
I could be completely wrong but I believe that Collins would have brought Ireland into ww2 he wasn't like develara he wanted to develope and industerilise the country and would probably believe that helping Britain and America in the war would have helped this idea. Develara had a romantic poets idea of Ireland and kept it backwards by making the church a partner in running this state which kept the people in poverty and brought mass immigration as my father often said develara ruined Ireland and he should have knowen most of his generation had to immigrate.
@normanashe2 жыл бұрын
Fergusion assessment of Collins & De Valera is spot on