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NOT what I Expected! | PING G430 Max 10K Driver
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Күн бұрынPing returns with an extension to their G430 driver lineup in 2024 with the addition of the Ping G430 Max 10k Driver. Designed for more stability and forgiveness, this new ping golf club tries to follow in the Ping G400 MOI footsteps but with even more ball speed. Does this make it the Best Golf Driver of 2024?
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@ExitThirteen 6 ай бұрын
I upgraded from a Ping G430 Max 9 degree to the G430 Max 10K, also in 9 degree. Kept the same shaft, which is a Kai'li 60g stiff flex. The one thing I have been able to do with the G430 Max 10K is I am able to turn down the loft from 9 degrees to 7.5 degrees, without having bigger dispersion. My dispersion stayed identical, but was able to gain some yardage from the reduced loft. Very happy so far with the purchase, and I may also experiment with the weight at the back of the head, I may try the 25g weight from a regular G430 Max and see what that does, since the weight on the G430 Max 10K is 28g.
@timhalleran3514 7 ай бұрын
Great video😃I gamed the G410 for some time and had a great experience. My buddy talked me into buying the Stealth ( he gets 1/2 off). So I traded in my G410 ( bad move). The Stealth did not work for me at all. Lost distance and had horrendous dispersion. I got the G430 Max as a birthday gift from my wife! ( I love that woman 😊). When the 10K came out I was able to exchange my G430 for the G430 Max 10k! I'm back to crushing it long and keeping in play!! The greater moi gives us the confidence to swing away! I'm 61 y.o. With a 102 swing speed. I hitting this club 260+ total AND it's in play! Great club. Thanks for your videos. You are informative and entertaining😂
@joelsimpson9167 7 ай бұрын
Interested in how you "exchanged" the g430 for the g430 max 10k... may be in the same boat... how'd you do that!? Thanks in advance
@timhalleran3514 7 ай бұрын
I paid the 50 dollar difference. Golfmart gives a 90 day exchange. If you exchange for something more expensive you just pay the difference.
@swisstrader 6 ай бұрын
So you just had to pay $50 for the new Max cuz you have to 430?? I would love to do the same. And did you do this by going to store or via the internet?
@timhalleran3514 6 ай бұрын
At the store. Store gives 90 day exchange policy. You can get store credit and apply to the next purchase. In my case I returned my 430 max for 550 and spent an additional 50 to get the 10K
@swisstrader 6 ай бұрын
@@timhalleran3514 oh. Thanks. So in my case wouldn’t work cuz I’ve owned the 430 for some time now
@adamw9764 7 ай бұрын
Cannot wait to get mine, did a full fitting and its ridiculous how long it is but also how straight I hit it off toe hits (which is where my miss is). Great review, Alex!
@gcoffey223 7 ай бұрын
Enjoy!!!
@jimlock6152 6 ай бұрын
I did the cardinal sin and bought mine with a standard shaft and 10.5.. I’ve spent literally thousands on club fittings, between, Titliest, Ping and Taylormade.. unless your swing is top drawer consistent, give it a miss.. and just go for it
@whaleshark2625 7 ай бұрын
Great video! I've hit it twice, second time was a proper fitting. Definitely take a look at the two Ping Tour shafts (I ended up in the Black which was insanely tight for dispersion for me) and the HZRDOUS RDX as well. Cannot wait for it to get delivered hopefully next week! Now I just need better weather so I can get it outside.
@allant.9152 6 ай бұрын
Still the only golf reviewer that creases me up....loved the Crazy Town!
@tcofield1967 7 ай бұрын
I hit it straight. Straight left, straight right, straight into the trees.
@gcoffey223 7 ай бұрын
Straight to Brendas
@golfish8589 7 ай бұрын
Take one of your old drivers. Cut 3 inches off the butt. Put on a jumbo max grip. If you have smaller hands. Don't go full jumbo. The add the appropriate amount of lead tape back and low. And take only it to the range and hit a couple of buckets. You will figure out how to hit it straight. And much more in the center
@kevinconnolly754 7 ай бұрын
@@golfish8589 yep done that before, hekps for while until you swing like a crazy gorilla again a few months later 😂
@will.m1110 7 ай бұрын
Bingo
@golfish8589 7 ай бұрын
@@kevinconnolly754late this fall I was playing with two guys i did not know. I was spraying the driver. I told myself to swing at 70% I crushed the next two drives. My brother asked what did I change. I said I was swinging 70%. The two guys said "ya right 70%" In reality? My swing probably didn't look different. But it sure felt different
@leeclements4645 7 ай бұрын
The true demonstration expert and while the humour of a genus keep it up thanks 🎉to
@GolfSpyBOS 7 ай бұрын
Please never change Al!
@ndmagic99 7 ай бұрын
Best channel on youtube. Can’t wait to see u hit the pxg black ops
@jackrichardson1079 7 ай бұрын
3000+ spin with a draw shape is insane. Please try this head with the Ping Tour 2.0 Black 65X. It is magic. Kai’li plays softer than HZRDUS Black (same weight); kick point is a bit different. I know you usually get 175/180+ ball speed, and I would love to see the numbers with a shaft that fits your speed.
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
Not the the shaft it’s the strike location due to the back
@jackrichardson1079 7 ай бұрын
@@alexetchesgolf Precisely, because heavier rear weight will increase MOI, as well as spin. Heavier shafts cut down on spin no? Based on your other videos, a Kai’li White 60S seems very light for you.
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
@jackrichardson1079 all depends on swing timing with the shaft. Strike is everything. With a whippy senior flex if I was striking it high that would even low spin. Just depends in my hands like everyone else
@nokian-vy4tg 7 ай бұрын
Never liked the Kaili shafts. Just don't feel right. Worst of the bunch from MRC, hence why maybe they always end up as stock shafts in most brands lineup. The Ping shafts (black & chrome) are much better. My opinion.
@jackrichardson1079 7 ай бұрын
@@nokian-vy4tg I love Tensei and Diamana, that’s about it from Mitsubishi. I get a lot of good feedback from the new gen PING tour shafts. I play a 6.5 HZRDUS Blue//G400, but I used to play the Gen 1 PING Tour 65X. I fit several people into the new Tour 2.0 Black shaft, and the response has been great. Looking to make the switch here soon. (Tax Return Season, Baby!!)
@bigrainbow25 6 ай бұрын
My go to driver is still a G400...interesting I still get more club head speed out of the smaller head then the newer drivers..with stock Alta CB stiff shaft it weighs 328 grams...I bought a G430LST with the Tour Chrome 2.0 and that club weighs in at a whopping 354 grams...but of course both heads are around a 440 cc size...I hit my driver really high so opted for the Low Spin Low launch head of the LST...Im 72 and still generate around 105 mph club speed and interesting enough even though the LST is 26 grams heavier ( of course partly because of the shaft) I still get the same club head speed...nobody told me back in the day that the G400 was heavier and so go figure I have hit it faster and straighter then any club Ive ever owned...I know guys that have bought the 10K and one hits it faster and the other slower but both love the results...Im going to give it a try against my other G drivers...love your humor would be a blast to golf with you...I break the fun meter alot on the course...keep up the great reviews and humor...Jimmy T
@travis3889 7 ай бұрын
This club is amazing. Hit it last week and pre-ordered it. Finally, a club that does exactly what they say it will do!
@butlernathin5685 5 ай бұрын
Love it!! Thanks for sharing. Which projector are you using mate?
@bogeyfosho 2 ай бұрын
Love your content!
@Renmazuo27 7 ай бұрын
Did you get a new camera Al? Production quality on this vid is mint as!
@JoeCothern-lv8zx 7 ай бұрын
Another great review, thanks my friend!
@jonfister3237 6 ай бұрын
Come come my-lady omg I died laughing.
@stevefordham1740 7 ай бұрын
It's should always be about the gains/ changes from last years model. Or even a few years back. Is this basically the same club in a different wrapper?
@matthewshepherd826 7 ай бұрын
To be honest, I'm a bit pissed off that they brought this out only a few months after I bought the G430max.
@Traplordsosa 7 ай бұрын
yeah scummy marketing move by ping.
@gagaming7192 7 ай бұрын
The 430 max is also 10k moi if you have the weight in the fade position. And the original 430 max is slightly longer. If the fade position isn’t for you yeah I’d be annoyed at the release too
@matthewshepherd826 7 ай бұрын
@gagaming7192 more just the fact that I would've liked to have had the chance to hit this as well, might have still got the G430max but to not have the opportunity is pretty annoying.
@chickendippers24 7 ай бұрын
legit same for me haha
@georgebrooks4801 6 ай бұрын
Only got the lst as the max head looked wank call me what you will but I'd already fell in love with the carbon! Love ping but can't help bit feel they be t me over a bit on this one! 😔
@scotthirschausen177 7 ай бұрын
What’s it like against a g400 max since that was also 10k moi?
@nellynelson9387 7 ай бұрын
Swapped put my 10.5 g430 max for a 9 degree max turned it down and now hitting fades around 2200-2500rpm 14 launch 290 carry love it
@edblair929 7 ай бұрын
How is your short game?😊
@nellynelson9387 7 ай бұрын
@edblair929 not to bad the longer irons letting me down to be honest
@jeromekemmer8148 7 ай бұрын
Time for some similar tech in your long irons!
@nellynelson9387 7 ай бұрын
@jessecooper9795 not really no. Just mentioned my long irons are poor not exactly bragging is it. Basically sharing my driver experience atm. Shame keyboard warriors like yourself can't see that.
@gagaming7192 7 ай бұрын
Alex would love to see you compare this driver with the 430 max, weight in fade position supposedly makes the 430 max 10k moi and it’s longer so for me, someone with a left miss would love a review showing if I should save dollars and get the original max model. Thanks for the content
@vikingsfan9049 7 ай бұрын
Get fit and compare.
@gagaming7192 6 ай бұрын
@@vikingsfan9049 the point is when you’re getting fitted those guys are usually making a percentage of sales. I’m in the sales business I respect the hustle but the 10k cost more. I want it. But if a trusted content creator helps me avoid paying more it’d be nice lol
@kristian_arnold 6 ай бұрын
Is there much difference from the G425 Max?
@kevinmcclainsr.2706 4 ай бұрын
The 425 is much better. The sound and feel is much more satisfying. Where I have mine set has really straightened out my slice. I find this adjustable driver to be more functional than all the others and I’ve tried a few.
@alexetchesgolf 4 ай бұрын
Purely personal preference 👍 I didn’t prefer the 425 at all
@nahor99 7 ай бұрын
Can we have a video with it in the lowest loft 7.5*? Will your spin drop down in the lower loft setting?
@alr6463 7 ай бұрын
The price! Yikes! I'll stick with my ooooooold taylormade R7
@chase_hanna 7 ай бұрын
How do you like the Ka'li white driver shaft? I was fit into same shaft for Stealth 2 and it's been great for me, so far. Figured you would be in x-flex but its all about timing and release anyway
@MrNicliu 7 ай бұрын
Gwan big lad 🎉 you full time in Norn Iron now? If so we need some more course vlogs 😮
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
I’m all over but here at the moment. Course vlogs coming when it’s not snowing 😂
@ramzee11 7 ай бұрын
Never change Big Al great stuff😂
@stollerino 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this to get cranked down to 7.5* and stepped on.
@plomassa2677 7 ай бұрын
It’s a great club. Some players are playing longer shafts with this head to get longer carry without sacrificing much in the forgiveness. Might be something for you to give a shot.
@boydgrandy5769 7 ай бұрын
It is an inescapable fact that a longer shaft will reduce the MOI of this or any club. Two to three inches isn't much, but until we can figure out how to change the axis of rotation from the shoulder/neck plane of the guy swinging the club, grams per cm2 is going to decrease with length. The difference between a 45 inch shaft and a 48 inch shaft would reduce MOI by about 8%.
@juggernaut0629 7 ай бұрын
Swingweight would be through the roof
@gcoffey223 7 ай бұрын
@@boydgrandy5769 Ouch
@dangemmill5632 7 ай бұрын
E=[mc]!?!? What?
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
We’re forgetting about the all important factor mind. The strike location. That’s what it boils down to. Would never change length unless needed and can be adapted to
@ottawapop 7 ай бұрын
You can make any driver look great, and a great driver greater..er. Not really a fair fight. I have a G430 max and can’t imagine any difference at all on my 150 mpg ball speed. The thought of low spin always gets my nads turtling.
@punchborg 6 ай бұрын
I bought a g400 but I didn't know what I was doing and bought a 12 degree, I was hitting balloons but it sure was straight, I sold it and got a g series more to my specs but the 400 was a bit straighter not enough to chance it though since I haven't tried it in a lower loft
@LeTran-cc9hw 7 ай бұрын
Please review the Cobra Darkspeed.🙏🙏🙏❤️
@Chris-yj1zg 5 ай бұрын
You’re free to check the King 👌🏽 And Butterfly… chooon
@donkeydance5483 7 ай бұрын
Love you, Al
@brady9214 3 ай бұрын
I've done it - I found party-Shiels! 😂
@afpelley 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see a second go on this...with a 'proper shaft' for you...and turn it down in loft.
@Fullcasa8 7 ай бұрын
Intro was great, I know exactly what you meant 😂
@randallpennington5976 7 ай бұрын
I can’t wait till the 11k comes out and I can get ones used in 6 years.
@Birdie-Putt 7 ай бұрын
Can’t wait till the 20K comes lol … lol smh 🤦♂️ come on people.!!! It’s snake oil.!!!
@sirtogii5216 7 ай бұрын
Ping always do what they say they do. When did they release a poor product? But that price tag?
@gregmcintosh815 6 ай бұрын
You have been overseas forever. Are you coming back to Brenda in Perth??
@keithfinley2939 7 ай бұрын
spin rate might have crept up with the S flex shaft?
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
Well the strike was centre so that wouldn’t make any difference unless it was making me strike it low on the face
@The-OC 7 ай бұрын
Solid performance, but the top looks so busy and it's at the top end of the prices of this year.
@ginge5168 7 ай бұрын
Why you not in your normal studio AL ?
@markspence5288 7 ай бұрын
I’m glad some1 finally said “get a lesson”
@adsy6819 7 ай бұрын
I’m just here for the tunes
@craigsummerville8823 7 ай бұрын
I guess the next logical progression is a Toe2Toe between the Ping and Taylormade 10K MOI drivers.
@user-ok3yt6yu4u 7 ай бұрын
Nice review. I pre-ordered mine with a Ventus Red 5s Velocore. Let's see how it goes. It is the same shaft I currently game. I had a 5 year old driver with the shaft upgrade, so it was a good time to invest for the next 5.
@ianshepherd6476 7 ай бұрын
Turn that loft down, open the face, cut the spin! I still think it’s pointless since the max has a movable weight and that is forgiveness in a sense for a lot of people.
@kyleharvey7376 7 ай бұрын
Ai smoke review soon?
@damonroa7227 7 ай бұрын
Turn it down to 7.5 and show us what it will do!!
@jeffslaughter6912 7 ай бұрын
And tee it higher
@pgaloom 7 ай бұрын
I have been with Ping since the G...the 400 was the fastest for me, until the 430.
@gobargau9011 7 ай бұрын
I call my driver The Wife because she’s always Right!
@dereksimpson1284 7 ай бұрын
So do so the manufacturers get together and plan to make a 10K moi driver. Seems unnecessary
@brandonthomson4980 7 ай бұрын
Starts with L, and with esson? Never heard of it... best to buy another new driver!
@michaelevans7611 7 ай бұрын
That ball fight looks real low…
@user-iw5zg4nj9e 7 ай бұрын
Wonder if you can just turn a cheaper ping driver into one of these with a bigger weight. I bought they done much else.
@RobC-tt4sq 6 ай бұрын
This thing looks horrendous at address. It's as if PING attached a dinner plate to the end of a shaft.
@RedDanger-wf1lo 7 ай бұрын
Drop the loft to 7.5
@davewylie654 7 ай бұрын
So this super forgiving game improvement driver is beyond easy to hit AND ??? Low spin??? What??? Makes no sense and it's a bomber. Ok Alex you owe me a shirt and possibly an attorney as my wife is angry I just spit coffee thru my nose all over the new shirt she bought me TODAY!!!! 😂 The "come my lady" got me and I lost it and unfortunately had a mouth full of coffee 😂 2550 for you??? That's really low spin from a forgiving club???? This is the reason there are a few tour players hitting a Max driver. I think it's about time for another review with the Hammer hair!!! Maybe a wrestling outfit with the hammer hair??? 😂😂😂
@gavincunningham4598 7 ай бұрын
I would like to see a head to head put a heavier weight in the back of a normal g430 and drop the loft ...see what happens just seems a bit of a rip off
@golfish8589 7 ай бұрын
For the weekend worrior. Cut 3 inches off the butt and another 28 grams of lead tape for 12.5K. And hit it in the center more often.
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
Oh I wouldn’t say that 😂🤦♂️
@markhilton4920 7 ай бұрын
Way to expensive by 100 quid on the others and even more on the cobra
@michaelsexton5604 6 ай бұрын
Just bought one for £484. And I love it!
@samwhite8093 7 ай бұрын
£599? Aye right
@justinbordwell4654 7 ай бұрын
Bin chicken!
@simongiguere8794 7 ай бұрын
To be so expensive
@spi9177 7 ай бұрын
Stock shafts are no good, all over the place
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
Interesting take
@Birdie-Putt 7 ай бұрын
Snake oil.!!!!!!!😤
@marshallwhitson7848 7 ай бұрын
Ping please lose the ugly dated tubulators already !!!
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
I’m with you on this
@billbkr32ify 7 ай бұрын
98% of the reviews are it is not what it claims to be. And that the AI Smoke and QI 10 are far better.
@nealfreeman01 7 ай бұрын
Poor ping. This driver is bad. the other heads are better. Other channels are finding BIG problems with this driver. The 10k idea is just bad marketing... you can't beat physics.
@alexetchesgolf 7 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with it. Honestly. Won’t work for some people and that’s okay 👍
@nokian-vy4tg 7 ай бұрын
Nobody does MOI like Ping. AL in comments above doesn't believe it's the shaft (credit to him), but it is. AL needs to retest for himself with the Ping tour black 2.0.
@GorillaSnapper 7 ай бұрын
Such a hideous looking driver, with how good the new Callaway/Cobra and even the new Qi10 looks, Ping really not ageing well. Doesnt matter how decent it performs, it looks so bad at address.
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