I'm glad we have both!

To be fair you haven't been able to buy a Z pretty much at all due to stop sales on the paint, headlights, and automatic transmission.

Hey, never knock yourself for what you like. It is a cool looking car.

I want to get this to 450 hp minimum

You mean the bmw

As well as a far better vehicle 🥴

Main reason I got my soup 😂

You could just install it yourself for less than $2k. You really have to be driving hard to get the use out of an LSD though.

@@AmericanDuck but then you void the warranty on a brand new car. Also, putting an LSD to good use is very easy when you have 400hp on tap

@@anthonykiedis1765 I put a Wavetrac rear diff in my base 370Z. The dealer has no idea it is in there. And it's bulletproof so anything that could go wrong with the car that would require warranty work would not have anything to do with the rear diff.

Nissan is likely going to come out with a midrange model with the mechanical LSD in a year or so.

May I direct you to the Magnuson-Moss act?

The Z has a better instrument cluster and dash (I hate it when the touchscreen is not integrated into the dash and just sticks up like it was an afterthought). The Supra has better driving comfort and ergonomics.

im buying one this month 500 dollar below msrp, just have to drive 8 hours for it. just inquire at multiple dealerships

100%, some guys running high 10's with minimal mods.

Yeah I think the Nismo 1.5 way LSD is just a bit over $1k, well worth it. Then upgrade the touring car handling with some SPL parts and KW coils then sharpen the power delivery with AMS goodies. For around $8k worth of quality parts and a weekend in the garage a MT base model Z is the way to go for a connected feeling fun car over the new Z4 clown shoe (the Zupra is a nicer and faster car out of the box though, but for the price and what it is I'd rather just buy an M4 with a few km on it if someone twisted my arm and told me I had to buy a Euro tuner car). The looks on this Z are just timeless and they got rid of the weird bulbous curves of the 350 and 370 (big reason I went with the cleaner looking G35 even though it weighs a bit more)!

Nah the Supra looks more upscale saw a z in person it looks cheap and boring.

Hands down no contest.

Supra is a sports car and this is a grandpa car.. Btw you can make them functional but engineer's decided to leave them closed because their probably know more about air then us😮😮😮

@@ju4121 If they're functional, then they should be open. Otherwise, if they have no effect on the aero of the vehicle, then they shouldn't be there in the first place. The Supra will still be a sports car, vent or not.

@@chiemekaaI don’t think it matters if there open or not it still outperforms the z. Plus it has more road presence than the z saw a z it already looks old and cheap. You can tell Nissan cut corners.

@@joshlamar1990 Looks are subjective to the person looking. They both have presence in their own way.

@@chiemekaa no they don’t any one can see the Supra is a better car only reason to go with z is if you a fanboy or nostalgia other than that the car sucks.

Is one of your biggest gripes about the Z is the weight?

The Nismo is getting the grill the car should have had from the start. With the new grill its a perfectly styled car, much better looking than the Supra. But the Supra is the better sports car, bummer.

Too bad for now the nismo version is automatic only. Which is a major bummer for me as I had a 2012 nismo 370 with manual and it was a blast.

You will probably never find this car for 40k when production does pick up the price will be higher they are already creeping up.

Yep, that's my thought process, the looks are like a greatest hits album and the performance is good, and will only get better with aftermarket upgrades. The Zupra is nice, but if I want to buy a BMW I'll get one with an actual BMW badge.

We've had others on the channel, Brian was a regular for a year and you'll be seeing Nick soon. We're looking to pick up one more person as well.

In the real world the Z costs more due to markups. 😂

I have a 370Z which was the base model. I put a Wavetrac differential in. Not cheap, but awesome and bulletproof!

Its basically the same car with more power. Unplug the artificial sound

@@beexiong2995 wrong and I did

So what? All parts in both outsourced are made in china.

Nissan definitely needs some help this car is at the bottom of the barrel as far as performance and hoe cheap the interior looks for the price

The z is the much better car, specifically because it’s easy to modify it, plus it’s cheaper.

@@2seep did you just say a Nissan is a much better car than a Porsche in 2023 😂

I'm 6'-3" and own a 370Z. You should be fine in the Z (interior dimensions are identical to 370Z). I've driven it across the country and it isn't bad at all for a tall guy.

It's too new and doesn't have the advantage of power in its favor without all the ev stuff attached to it. Plus the bmw i6 having a hybrid version that makes more power pretty much throws that idea out of the window.

@@carboydorifutoparty3976 Toyota has a stake in Mazda. So it’d be more Japanese or Toyota grown sports car which aligns with their goal. Plus Mazda does have the hybrid versions of the same new I6 drivetrain so totally feasible to incorporate it if Mazda and Toyota commuted to this. I get it with all the BMW gear in the dealership garages it’d be hard to switch. But it does make sense. And it’d be so nice to see a medium size sports car with the Mazda design language. Granted. BMW I6 makes great power and have a lot of robust history, and Mazda is a new engine with currently modest outputs.

The best way I can phrase it is that the feel is very direct, but "isolated". It goes where you steer it, but there's not much feedback.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide makes sense! Thanks!

😅😂😅😂

I own a 370Z with dual air intakes, high flow cats, and a tune. I pull from Mustang GT's on the highway. Camaros are ugly AF and chicks dig the Z, trust me! ☺

@@povertyspec9651 you had to do all that to make do something please lol

I think you forget that one of the big reasons this new Z exists is because the old Z existed (as this is basically a heavy refresh and not an all new model, so much of the R&D was largely already done and paid for).

@@ALMX5DP true but the fact that it’s 100% Nissan is what makes it interesting

But it is true tho. And it’s not like Nissan have as a ground up new vehicle, the chassis is just a reworked 370z chassis which is a reworked version of the 350z chassis which means the new Z is riding on a modified 20 year old platform. Which is one way Nissan got to save money, the engine is also just lifted out of the Infiniti products so they did not need to make an all new engine. Only really need parts of the Z is the exterior, auto transmission and some interior. Toyota on the other hand did not have a platform that was light enough that coulda used or an engine, and financially is just doesn’t make sense to dump billions of dollars into a vehicle that doesn’t make any profit for then, we would hate to have an LFA 2.0 type situation. So it makes sense why BMW and Toyota came together

@@naveenthemachinesure I feel similar, just wanted to make sure you understood why Toyota took that direction instead of this one, as their investment into a new sports car would have been substantially more than what Nissan needed.

@@alwaysiyi272not to mention the transmission I believe is a Mercedes 9-Gtronic design that was tweaked and is being used in other Nissans like the Frontier and Titan.

The Golf R DSG is faster to 60 and with an APR tune will blow pretty much everything out of the water under $80,000.

Exactly.

😂

Teehee

I wouldn't really go too much on current sales. The Z is extremely production limited at the moment.

@bigd7386 Yessir all the more reason I'd go for the Z

The Z isnt special. Considering the cheap parts it's made of are from 2004 make it undesirable for collectors lol.

@beexiong2995 And the old supra is made of special parts? bro, stoppit... the old rx7 is made of special parts? stop.... Stick to your civic si bro

@@beexiong2995 Collectors care about cars that are fun, have personality, and that stand out. No one gives a sheit about "cheap" mass produced parts which are pretty much everywhere except for high dollar exotics. I guarantee you this Z will be a huge head turning collectible when everyone else is driving soulless Tesla appliances.

This car is way past affordable at this point

I just couldn’t help myzelf…

LOL. Not "better" than a Supra, just more "personality"

@@AAutoBuyersGuide I'd be on a list for a base Z if it had an LSD.

Seems like it's basically zero chance.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide =(

And yet a mk5 would still give it a run for its money while being cheaper new.

I couldn’t help it…