Alfa GTV rust and sills repair, episode 1.

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Jethro Bronner

Jethro Bronner

6 жыл бұрын

In this episode I get deeper into the GTV's creeping rust in the sills, as the project snowballs into a bigger and bigger restoration.
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@jrmediate
@jrmediate 5 жыл бұрын
You're killing me waiting for the next episode. This is the best channel ever for a 105 enthusiast, especially with you doing rust repairs properly. Hope you get back at it soon....
@bwint7234
@bwint7234 4 жыл бұрын
The detail of this restoration is incredible. Bravo for going this deep. Absolutely love the videos
@CTmoog
@CTmoog 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I love your shop. The natural light through the doors is amazing. Great video!
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland 6 жыл бұрын
Labour of Love - -- Good to see how much effort, perseverance, courage and will.... it takes to reach the bottom for a full restoration without cutting corners!. Awesome job
@alphanuevo
@alphanuevo 5 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thanks for sharing. I have a 1972 GTV 2000 project car that needs a lot of work. Cheers.
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 5 жыл бұрын
FooDoo6 Thanks for watching! I also have a 73 GTV 2000 that needs loads of work. I’ll get it on the channel soon.
@waen606
@waen606 6 жыл бұрын
Youth ,energy and courage.....I seem to still have a little of the last one...great stuff jethro..
@zeke3486
@zeke3486 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, reminds me of my 1972 Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV. I bought it in 1976 and while it was just 4 years old it had severe rust under the door sills, doors and in the back where the bumper were attached. Me and my father spent a summer fixing and welding all the rust, then got it painted and it looked great for a while. 2 years later rust started to return on other places and I decided to sell it. It was a good looking car with an exellent engine but with a fragile body like a digestive bisquit.
@matejhujo5198
@matejhujo5198 6 жыл бұрын
I like that you are working on places that nobody else touch 👍
@NewBeRVer
@NewBeRVer 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, what an awesome workshop! I want myself one!
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
NewBeRVer Thanks 👍 It’s been a long grind for me to have that space, it makes all the difference in the world when working on my cars.
@stevewuertz3598
@stevewuertz3598 5 жыл бұрын
If you only lived about 6000 miles closer, I'd be there with tool bag and camera tripod to help keep this important series moving along. In the old days in the states, we had barn raisings. A DIY solo barn is a near impossible task BUT if the neighbors pitch in the big stuff gets knocked out in a week. I wish cars lent themselves to that as well. FWIW- that is one fine garage you are working in. Envious more than a little bit
@alexlintern9779
@alexlintern9779 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Jethro will source a UK car and then he'll need a team of welders LOL
@phogetphull
@phogetphull 4 жыл бұрын
Your use of the Death wheel/wire wheel with no guard or face shield is scary. PPE for everyone
@channghiem5012
@channghiem5012 5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your build hope u post up more videos soon and provide more details on the build.
@stevewuertz3598
@stevewuertz3598 6 жыл бұрын
Really truly great series. Appreciate the fact that episodes are focused and linear. A lot of shops will have 5 minutes on rust, 5 minutes on recovering the interior and 5 minutes on something else. This way its easier to focus on the entire process. Please show us any unusual fabrication processes you need to encournter-shrinking and stretching a piece to make a curve or bead roller work. I'm trying to assess my tool requirements before I start mine. Again-very well done-thanks
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Steve Wuertz will do 👍 I don’t have that many metal working tools so I’ll mostly be working with pressed panels and hammers and dollies and body files.
@gerardscheffer8848
@gerardscheffer8848 6 жыл бұрын
I guess this is how restaurations get bigger and bigger. But you sure you want a solid body underneath the paint job. I am really interested how you get the new panels to fit. Great job!
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Gerard Scheffer Yeah there would have been no point painting over all that trouble in the sills, it would come out eventually.
@geoff3656
@geoff3656 5 жыл бұрын
Gerard Scheffer Hi Gerard, that's a good question... My way to make things fit is to weld the four corners where it touches and gas heat the areas that need persuasion and gently tap them into position. Once it all fits and looks straight remove the four welds and dress the metal with care back to fresh and new appearance to then spray with a weldable zinc spray to prime and seal the two closed sections and plug weld or spot weld them back in. This is important to get a rust proof panel and longevity . Always allow for ventilation holes to dry out the panels from moisture. Remember when a car is driven it exchanges air via these holes and keeps the evaporation levels up to stay dry... G
@tonyadreani155
@tonyadreani155 2 жыл бұрын
Super travail , dans la pure tradition !!
@samadrid6321
@samadrid6321 4 жыл бұрын
That Seiko gets a lot of wrist time on some very nice straps. Great watch.
@jonwagstaff4150
@jonwagstaff4150 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video Jethro and great attention to detail. I'm very envious of your frame as I had to do most of that lying on my back. I was interested to note you welded the sides of the boot floor to the wings (fenders) as I'm pretty sure Alfa didn't, they just sealed the joint. One tip I was given was to always fit the doors before welding on the outer sills as you can never get the profile right the other way around. Looking forward to the next episode as always!
@karolsurwilo1838
@karolsurwilo1838 6 жыл бұрын
Hi great job I’m doing the same thing but my project it’s nearly done three more weeks and I will be driving my Alfa greetings from Poland
@geoff3656
@geoff3656 5 жыл бұрын
Karol Surwilo Hi Karol, I'm another Alfa enthusiast owner of 3 coups 105 the first was a series 2 /1750 .. 1970 the second a step front 1969 / 1300 and the third a 1967 Guilia sprint gt Veloce . I'm currently working on the 67 and was wondering what yours was ..? Also is the rumour of a supply of rust panels for these 105 alfas being manufactured from Poland true..? I have a friend in stretchen I think it's called sorry for spelling but he isn't the full knowledge on alfas . Please help :-) Regards Geoff Perth Australia
@novi0974
@novi0974 3 жыл бұрын
@@geoff3656 hey Geoff .. Im in Sydney .. if Karol replies I would also like access to the Polish Panels ..
@geoff3656
@geoff3656 3 жыл бұрын
@@novi0974 hi Novi You say there are Polish panels still to go .. I’d like to talk more on that.. I could call you tomorrow if you like .. Cheers Geoff
@robertboonzaier3204
@robertboonzaier3204 6 жыл бұрын
Well done!Great work!!!
@Dixler683
@Dixler683 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video series.
@Specrotors
@Specrotors 6 жыл бұрын
Those inner sills are mint considering lol...keep up the good work bro
@nomebear
@nomebear 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't open it up then you'll never know what's underneath. The old saying: Do it now, or do it later. I saw an old Lamborghini that had hidden rust that eventually devoured the car. Pity!
@jensduhem8904
@jensduhem8904 6 жыл бұрын
Stoked! To see another one :)
@Kowalski401
@Kowalski401 6 жыл бұрын
Great work Jethro, that will undoubtedly be the nicest GTV in all of Africa!
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
thomas langpaul It probably will be!
@raisingjunior6389
@raisingjunior6389 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work, its worth doing right since you took the car to bare metal. That media grit from the blasting will keep falling out of every hollow panel 😂
@friguy4444
@friguy4444 6 жыл бұрын
Wow man if you one day decide to sell this car you need to show the buyer the work you've put into it and you should be able to get top top dollar for it! Not that you're doing this for that I know but your attention to detail is just awesome.
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Greg Wayne I think I will sell this one eventually to help fund the 64 Sprint build.
@greghanlon2235
@greghanlon2235 6 жыл бұрын
Admire your attention to detail and stick-to-it-ness. Do you ever find yourself asking the question, "When is good enough, good enough?" That can be a difficult call to make when it comes to repairs that no one else (other than your viewers) will ever see, let alone appreciate. Liked it when you said, "Project creep is real." First step toward recovery is admitting you have a problem, and you're there. (Not judging, I walk around all day owning up to my shortcomings but there's no one around anymore to listen.) Good luck with the project and its progress.
@waen606
@waen606 6 жыл бұрын
Rust never sleeps but you can pretty well kill it ,it needs air and water just like us ,if you starve it of those two vital elements ,the car will last for ever....a very long time anyway.
@michaelreece458
@michaelreece458 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff, just subscribed.
@LucaMastrolacasa
@LucaMastrolacasa 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work my dad is building a 105 with a engine from a 3l v6 12v 164 i cant wait until its finished!
@stevewuertz3598
@stevewuertz3598 5 жыл бұрын
I hope your Dad documents that. The dimensions of the engine, the mounting points are different to say nothing of the wiring harness. It can be done but not by me without a lot of help from skilled youtubers-so I hope you guys can document that process
@geoff3656
@geoff3656 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Wuertz Hi Steve , I'm actually going to build one with a Lexus v8 through the original Alfa box and hybrid Dif from Lexus , the Lexus dif will require shortening on one side as the Alfa one is, but it will be a limited slip then...plus the correct ratio for engine. Lexus is a 4 ltr 32 valve engine which I propose to run on a big carb. I'm thinking it won't be under the bonnet height though .. The donor car will also give its suspension front end and rack.. Modified all the way to fit.. Dreaming maybe but it can be done if you watch Binky the mini conversion... Check it out on KZfaq 'Binky Mini' Cheers
@titanus49
@titanus49 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work Jethro. You are very thorough and determined to make sure the resto is done properly. I can understand why professional restorers charge so much money to restore the bodywork of classic cars. Very time consuming and a lot of repair/replace of metalwork .
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
titanus49 Yeah the work involved in doing it right is crazy. I’m not surprised it’s expensive after doing it myself.
@CHIBA280CRV
@CHIBA280CRV Жыл бұрын
Sweet work👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@alfaholic3
@alfaholic3 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 68 1750. I absolutely love that car. I want to have it built from the ground up like new. I unfortunately have got nowhere to work on cars anymore so i cant do much myself.
@HollyJansenPhotography
@HollyJansenPhotography 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda of late on watching Jethro, but really good one! Makes me really think more than ever than ever how many rust bucket concourse 105’s are rolling around even more. Looking forward to the next session. Say , are you still going to Rat Rod this 105 with just an coat over the bear metal? Seems like a lot of work not to take it to the next level. Why not go with one of the new Giulia color combos. Vesuvio Gray over red leather is a sweet combo , if you’re looking for suggestions...
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Jansen Photo Expeditions I am going to rat rod this car for a while. I’m going to build it in stages. I’ll get the metalwork perfect and get it mechanically sorted, and paint the underside and engine bay. Then I’ll drive it like that for a while then paint the outside, then do an interior for it.
@Lennon578
@Lennon578 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to use Rust Bullet before Primer Jethro
@waspmeat
@waspmeat 5 жыл бұрын
nice work as always JB. how’s the update coming along?
@jeffintoronto5712
@jeffintoronto5712 5 жыл бұрын
It looked to me that the outer sills just had surface rust. There are a lot of Alfa owners who would love to have their sills in that good of condition.
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff inToronto Yeah the outer sills were mostly good, except up front around the A pillar base. Unfortunately they’re only available as a whole sill, you can’t just replace a small section.
@lebojay
@lebojay 4 жыл бұрын
I am one of these Alfa owners you speak of, and I’m also in Toronto!
@jimmygrant3212
@jimmygrant3212 5 жыл бұрын
My ‘72 has the “quick disconnect rocker” no cutting to remove required!
@sbadaro
@sbadaro 5 жыл бұрын
Hello again Jethro. Can you share with us the rust inhibitor / primer "brand" you used (by way of suggestion, not necessarily an endorsement)?
@marcryvon
@marcryvon 4 жыл бұрын
Jethro, mon ami, take it from an old guy here: put the GARD back on your angle grinder ! You obviously have been lucky so far to never had a cut-off disk explode in your face ! Especially while cutting thin steel, it may get get stuck and bang ! With these things, it is not IF but rather WHEN one will blow up ! Worst bodily damages than a bullet in the waiting. You're too young to loose an eye if not worst. Anyway, great videoo again. Take care !
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 4 жыл бұрын
Since this video I have put the guard back. I had a disc shatter and it was pretty frightening. I was lucky to get away unharmed.
@lebojay
@lebojay 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a KZfaq video a couple years back of a guy with a broken disc embedded deep in his face. It wasn’t pretty. I don’t even trust the guard after that, although of course I still use it. I also wear a face shield and gloves.
@marcs1212
@marcs1212 4 жыл бұрын
Hi just joined the channel and love the work and your calm approach, its also refreshing to see you are happy to show the mistakes too! One comment from me is it seems your welding equipment is not working well, there seems to be way too much 'spark' and splutter, not sure if its the settings or the machine but it just does not look right. If you ever decide to invest in a welder with Mig/Tig options then check out Fronius, I'm not a sponsor etc but they are awesome, dial in the metal and thickness and it does the rest, you will be impressed as the difference and the result will also be more accurate and neater with less time to grind and tidy up. Wish my mum had kept her Junior!
@brianuntereiner6613
@brianuntereiner6613 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jethro, Is everything going well down there? No new video in quite some time. I hope this comment reaches you in good health. Keep up the great work. I certainly wish I could report the same kind of progress with my car. You are an inspiration.
@marcelgeber6644
@marcelgeber6644 6 жыл бұрын
like your job ....what have to be done have to be done....best to do it now than in a year or two when you wanna enjoy the car
@rivenmotors7981
@rivenmotors7981 6 жыл бұрын
Whoo hoo! Always a nice morning to see another video in my feed! Do your friends understand and love cars too or do they think you're nuts?
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Riven Motors Most of my friends are car people these days. So they understand.
@CptOnion
@CptOnion 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at the effort you are putting in repairing the frame are you still going for the ratstyle alfa or are you doing a full resto?
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Riccardo Maestroni Yeah I’ll keep it as a ratstyle for a little bit, then do an interior and paint job. For now I’ll get the underside and mechanicals perfect and drive it a little.
@futurenewmedia
@futurenewmedia 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic project 👍 Can I ask, what product(s) are you using for the rust converting? I currently have my Porsche 993 track car in bar metal and could use something to cover the intricate areas mainly in the front tube area prior to apply epoxy primer/sealer. Thanks 🙂
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Shepherd It’s a local product that’s essentially the same as the Wurth rust converter primer, I’ll do a little section on it in the next video.
@futurenewmedia
@futurenewmedia 6 жыл бұрын
Jethro Bronner thanks Jethro, that indeed is very much appreciated 👍 I’ve never used a rust converter before as there tends to be so many differing reviews none of which I find to be conclusive. I did try the vinegar wash method preferred in the US but was not convinced 🤦‍♂️. This has always led me to simply metal finish followed by panel wipe before epoxy normally within a 30 minute time window as to not allow time for surface rust to appear. However since I’m fabricating a weld-in roll cage and various other gussets and strengtheners, it proves impossible to use my normal technique. It gets frustrating 😉
@waen606
@waen606 6 жыл бұрын
Not wanting to upstage jethro but P.O.R make some very good rust converting and sealing products,worth looking into.
@futurenewmedia
@futurenewmedia 6 жыл бұрын
waen909 Thanks, I’m aware of the POR product range but have never used them... I’ll do some R&D and run some tests 👍
@stevewuertz3598
@stevewuertz3598 5 жыл бұрын
JB-el duderino .. we are missing you. Has winter got you in its grip?
@targetglen
@targetglen 4 жыл бұрын
You speak English beautifully, but I can't work out your accent. Where are you from ? It's driving me crazy. Great , calm, intelligent work and no intrusive techno soundtrack
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 4 жыл бұрын
I’m from South Africa, but from the English part on the East Coast.
@johncapidecallu8076
@johncapidecallu8076 6 жыл бұрын
Body work is so hard to do for me, but you seem expert. Have you worked in a bodyshop or is just experience? With that attention to detail the car will be better than new when finished!
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
John Capidecallu It’s something I’ve been teaching myself recently because I’ve found it impossible to get good quality work out of local body shops.
@alfaholic3
@alfaholic3 5 жыл бұрын
@@JethroBronner aren't you in the UK? Some of the best Alfa shops in the world!
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 5 жыл бұрын
alfaholic3 I’m in South Africa. Good work is difficult to find here.
@alfaholic3
@alfaholic3 5 жыл бұрын
@@JethroBronner Cool man I'm from South Africa. How did you end up in SA. I assumed you were in the UK based on your SA to London video.
@yoesomite2199
@yoesomite2199 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought removing the sill could cause the car to buckle. I understand people brace across the door opening to stop that happening ..... or is that only if you touch the inner sills?
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Sammy That’s only if you start cutting the inner and middle sills between the A and B pillars. Those are the main structural parts of the sill. The outer sill is very thin sheet metal. I would brace if I removed any more than this.
@yoesomite2199
@yoesomite2199 6 жыл бұрын
thanks BTW , this is very informative, I plan to tackle my step nose restoration very soon so you experiences are very helpful
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
Sammy I’m going to get into the metal restoration on my Stepnose on this channel soon
@TheTechnician44
@TheTechnician44 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the next episode
@a.l9313
@a.l9313 4 жыл бұрын
My garage isn't big enough for an Alfa rotisserie 😩
@CarloNardini
@CarloNardini 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Jethro, I am considering importing about £1000 of body panels for my GTV - into South Africa. Would you be kind enough to let me have an idea of how much shipping, vat, etc are likely to be? Normally purchase from Richard Norris at ClassicAlfa in the UK.
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 4 жыл бұрын
Ask the guys at Classic Alfa to let you know how much shipping will be. Then add shipping to your total checkout value, then multiply that by 20, and then multiply your total by 1.35, and that should be close to your final amount.
@Velocitist
@Velocitist 4 жыл бұрын
Jethro Bronner whoa
@fredclarijs7370
@fredclarijs7370 6 жыл бұрын
Halo succes met die ouwe roestbak lol
@GreasyFingers
@GreasyFingers 5 жыл бұрын
Jeeeeeethroooooooooo!? We want a new vid!
@williamking200
@williamking200 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jethro, where are you dude????
@vitex9980
@vitex9980 4 жыл бұрын
Check out SOUP classic for some DIY sheet metal work :)
@stanthology
@stanthology 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you are wearing a respirator when you are grinding that metal. You will avoid lung disease that way. Non-believers can Google it.
@jonwagstaff4150
@jonwagstaff4150 5 жыл бұрын
Just clicked the dislike button on your video thinking it would show a list of adverse comments (which I'd find very surprising) but it just added one more dislike to the list. Can't find a way of taking it back so will try and click the like button to even things out! Hope the next instalment is nearly ready.
@dublegi-hr8kq
@dublegi-hr8kq 6 жыл бұрын
Ahem. You took some more stuff off. When do we get to the part where stuff goes on instead? Seriously, I was thinking, why not make one car out of two? Why not cut the bad bits off one and replace them with good bits from the other? Do they not match? Okay, you might still have to buy the model specific tinware and there maybe some panel that's bad on both cars but at least that should reduce the number of bits you need to import. I would be very tempted to do it that way.
@JethroBronner
@JethroBronner 6 жыл бұрын
01199 dublegi I don’t even know how to begin telling you what a stupid question this is. No I’m not going to cut my other car up for spares. And that car is bad in all the same places anyway and even if it wasn’t they don’t match. I will restore BOTH cars properly with new metal. End of.
@dublegi-hr8kq
@dublegi-hr8kq 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, fortunate youth. Been there, done that. But I wasn't thinking about cutting any specific car to repair another specific car in your collection. I was thinking about buying a car as a source of spares. Something not worth repairing and cutting that up.
@garethmcrae668
@garethmcrae668 2 жыл бұрын
@@dublegi-hr8kq sigh
@modelleg
@modelleg 6 жыл бұрын
These 105's all deteriorate in exactly the same places.
@MrBlueWRX
@MrBlueWRX 5 жыл бұрын
Has he died or what?
@aarondalton2223
@aarondalton2223 4 жыл бұрын
Are you a transgender female?
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