Ali swear if the group got signed first, he’d been the superstar. He’s so bitter he didn’t blow up like Nelly

St. Lunatics dropped a major album, Murphy Lee dropped a major album, Ali dropped a major album. How did Nelly not do things for the betterment of the group?

Universal didn’t want the St Lunatics, They only wanted Nelly. They saw the potential in him, And Nelly wasn’t going to go through with the deal, But he had sum people in his corner that told him to not miss out on a opportunity, Sumbody has to get their foot in the door. And once he got on he put them on. And if we being real Murphy Lee was the only person out of that group that had the potential to be a star.

Bottom line, Ali had his shot, it didn’t go, Nelly will now always be the bad guy, it’s called RESENTMENT

From Murphy Lee’s Mouth “Nelly didn’t want to go SOLO we pushed him to sign the deal”

I ain't even gone front if I wrote 80% of a diamond selling album and didn't get properly compensated for it I'd be pissed too lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Nelly signed for a solo album a group album and he made sure yall ALL GOT SOLO ALBUM DEALS. He put yall in position yall didn't appeal to the fans. Except Murphy Lee

Come on Ali, Nelly didn’t leave y’all hanging bruh, he took y’all with him. Y’all dropped studio albums too the group just didn’t pop off like Nelly did. It be like that sometimes, but you gotta respect that he took y’all with him bruh

When Nelly did that interview with What Up Doe radio, Ali's best friend was sitting right there. At the start of the interview, Nelly said "T-Luv stop me when im lying"......T-Luv didn't stop him once in that hour and a half.

This man literally tells a different story about this every interview

Snoop said it best. Everybody can’t be a superstar. Period. Ali gotta realize that if the public wanted to see and hear more from him we would have. That demand would have made it happen. Stop blaming others because you never popped.

Nelly the only reason we watching this interview 😂😂

Nelly had a unique sound. That's what made him go further.

Nelly fought hard for the group when Universal wasn't interested with him. The label made Nelly an offer: if his first album sold 250k or more the others get a group and solo deals.

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To make a long story short.. Nelly is the reason the world was able to be aware of the st lunatics, he made a good decision putting himself 1st which worked out.

It was the country grammar single off the lunatics underground album in 1998 that made them choose Nelly as a solo artist. It was the hardest song on the album and the only song that Nelly was on by his self. My homeboy pretty Tony and his cousin trale from u City had the CD in the hood before most of the city even heard it. I knew off top he was going to get a deal off of that song the first time I heard it. That was 1997 1998. Murphy Lee also had a hot single on that same album.

Is that nelly fault that when they heard yall group songs they only wanted to work with nelly?? 😂

“We weren’t shopping around” bruh y’all were a group for YEARS and couldn’t get signed by ANYBODY. The major label then chose Nelly (because he’s a star) & then Nelly put the group on. Let’s stop with the bs.

ALI WE NEED YOU TO BREATHE IN AND BREATHE OUT WITH SHORTER RESPONSES!

"I want an Ali feature" said NOBODY EVER. it was always Murphy Lee and Nelly😂😂😂😂

There’s no way in this world that they could be mad at Nelly every great team has a superstar.

That man just doesn't want to give Nelly his props 😢😂

Ali & nelly need to talk behind close doors to put this behind them

Long winded as hell trying to justify being ungrateful. Nelly put this man in position to flourish and he squandered it. I remember he was on movie soundtracks and even after his solo he got a second chance with the album with Big Gipp. At some point you've got to look in the mirror, big dawg.

Nelly was Beyonce Murph was Kelly Rowland and the rest of the Lunatics was the rest of Destiny’s Child is what im getting

In every Interview in the past the story was very different. The Group members always said that Nelly didn‘t want to take a solo deal and they had to convince him. Now he‘s a mad old man and he‘s not sure about Nellys mind for the group. Bad Charakter right there

This is ridiculous! They need to all LET IT GO! Nelly moved on… they moved on and had other opportunities after and that’s that! So much time has passed! They have to let this disdain for Nelly leaving go! They won’t ever be able to have reunion’s because of this. This is just sad! 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

Cause he’s the star!!!!! He don’t have to tell you. Nothing he owes you nothing

Nothing lasts forever, the group had success yall should be happy.

Two Words Ali…… Split Sheet!! Especially When You Had Supposedly Read Donald Passmans Book “All You Need To Know About The Music Biz” lol

His feelings got hurt when Nelly didn't want him to help write.

In Nelly’s interview he said he told Ali to go for a different single for his album and he said no and chose to do it another way. But now Ali is saying Nelly never helped him

Nelly did a Ralph Tresvant and said not without my friends🤣 Didn't they still get record deals, Murphy Lee seemed to do very well. What was Ali problem? That Nelly didn't tell him every step of the way. This seems to be causing him great pain, while Nelly is still touring and is back in love with Ashanti. Ali has to come to 2023 and get therapy, he's all over the place.

Enjoying this interview

No matter what happened, i just wish him and nell squashed the beef and come back together. And the group.

They messed up their publishing when they signed that deal without nelly and left him hanging in the beginning

When it comes to being a star having the “it factor” is more important than talent under no circumstance was Ali ever gone be as big as Nelly

Ali just sounds bitter. Nelly did everything he was suppose to do. It’s not like he got on and left the group in St Louis. The Lunatics could have did a Wu Tang and had success with multiple solo acts, but Murph was the only success outside of Nelly. Kyjuan didn’t do an album and Ali’s album wasn’t a success. 🤷🏿‍♂️

I’m not gon tell Ali how to feel because I wasn’t there. But man come on…Nelly took y’all EVERYWHERE with him. every tour, performance, yal were in every music video…there’s ppl out there that wouldn’t have even thought about their group after a label offers them a solo deal but he spoke up for y’all…even for the welcome to atlanta record, when he couldn’t do it but still made sure that murphy lee was on the record. Not trying to tell Ali how to feel bc I understand his frustration but we cannot act like Nelly wasn’t a team player bc he absolutely was.

Nelly tried to put them on and ultimately their talent didn’t prevail. For him to say he wrote 90% of the hooks is crazy . If that’s the case why did he need help with his album 🤔

The collaboration is what made Nelly great and the St. Lunatics pop. Once, the bond and chemistry is broken it's pretty much a wrap.

Ali was still touring with Nelly for several years after the other members had long gone. I just think he's hurt by the loss of his friendship with Nelly. I've never heard Prez seem so irritated with an interviewee until now.

when nelly be talking he gives stories dates specifics when ali talks its a whole lot of nothing just talk

The irony of Ali’s truth comes full circle. He did his original group-mates. The same way. 🤷‍♂️what comes around, goes around. So be cool with others on your journey up, you’ll see them on your way down.

Nelly is the reason why you are able to do an interview on on VladTV.

Great interview 👍

It’s a hard pill to swallow when you dog out ya lil homie and the rolls reverse. The moral of this story is do unto others as you want others to do unto you. Honestly Ali should be grateful that Nelly was solid enough to keep them boys around because realistically any fame the St. Lunatics got from the outside looking in was because Nelly over delivered and was in position to call shots. Nelly was the marketable one, just face facts. We gotta stop doing this in our culture, everybody can’t be the star. We all need good role players, another moral of the story.

Didn’t Ali read Donald Passman book, “All You need to know about the music business”? Isn’t he the one that went to college? I mean same way Nelly was trying to stand on business when he was shoving that contract down his throat for the “Gimme What U Got” record he should’ve been standing on business if he wrote 80% of “Country Grammer”. Ain’t no way in hell I would’ve been left out that publishing check.

I was a little kid but I still want to see a movie now lol. Dude speaks facts it seems

Great interview good questions

I gave Ali my cd in hazelwood because his boy who ran MACK'S TOLD me to. Didn't write my information on it on purpose because my producer told me that ALI would be funny or steal it. My mixed, mastered, dope songs which I received much love performing all around STL to Atl ALI YOU TOLD ME THAT IT WASN'T MARKETABLE. EVERYBODY FROM STL TO ATL LOVED . YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW

Cant be mad at Nelly for chasing his dreams cuh

I can see why they just wanted to work and sign Nelly because he had the it factor.

I like how he kept it real and said they don’t owe you nothing.. They from New York

What is Ali tryna gain from this? I remember last year watching Nelly break this down & Murph broke this down as well. The thought of if Nelly doesn’t do this solo deal, they would’ve continued to keep grinding in the early 2000s with no national success. The label took a shot at him & after the success of Country Grammar, he pushed y’all in front to drop the group album. Your song was the main song for the Osmosis Jones movie. If Ali felt a way at the time then he should’ve just left the group. You was all in the videos & had featured verses. He himself couldn’t find solo success so you gonna hate on the man that put a spotlight on the whole city? Ali just ungrateful

I just heard Nelly whole side of the story let me save y’all some time……Ali was still in that bad publishing deal that they all signed when the record company owned 100% of their publishing in 97 or whatever yr but when country grammar came out Nelly was the only one to buy his publishing back for $75,000 that he didn’t have universal paid for it….so when it came to Ali admitting to writing some of the songs on country grammar he didn’t say anything because of the company he was signed too back in the day still owned 100% of his publishing therefor they would get paid for his part of the publishing on “Country Grammer” so basically he is mad at Nelly because he feels he should basically had paid him under the table….but this the tricky part Ali was in a rush to sign that bad deal back in the day and Nelly signed it last because he was skeptical knowing it was bad business but still signed it but had to buy his way out of it later on down the line….now Ali is coming out saying he wrote it all which may be true but Nelly not denying that he had a part of writing on the album basically Ali is butt hurt I’m sure he made more than enough off Nelly from 03-2018 he just in his feelings because they fell out😂💯

Doesn't matter if it was a discussion. He put all them niggas on

Good content right here.

Take our versus off unless we get paid NOW. How he kept them around for anytime after that is a miracle.

It’s really pathetic. Someone who is able to see his family because of Nelly, and didn’t made the most out of his 15 minutes of playing the side kick, come back around and literally bite the hand that fed him. This is disloyal and ungrateful. I’m happy for Nelly getting away from this entitled leech

Nelly had the look and his music was good and unique at the time any label would have signed him

What Nelly say? Ain’t nobody gonna leave the show cause Ali didn’t show up 😂😂😂😂😂

Ali the supposed to be the business brain!! Wrote all the shyt on 2 diamond albums and he still crying. His publishing checks still supposed to be stupid. That's were he failed, he was good at nothing but writing and he didn't know what he was doing and nobody could tell him nothing. Following Ali, all them niccas would be working in a plant right now

Hes lying!! There's a doc i saw in the early 2000's and Ali himself said the label wanted to sign Nelly but Nelly didn't wanna do it! They basically had to push nelly to sign the deal..

Most people who understand business know how to seperate their friendship from business. And they usually surround themseves around people they are more business savvy over. So when anything ever comes up about seperating they have more knowledge on what to do to prosper. Maybe nelly was wrong to a certain degree, but none of us were there to witness it. What i can say it all of the group members had other doors that were open for them after the group split up because they were associated with nelly. At this point yes you can point fingers and be right, but you still need to take some accountability for not using your fame to open up your own doors for yourself.

I'm glad he shout trell out

That ending was crazzzzyyyy

Unfortunately a lot of these interviews have an undertone of “sour grapes”. And when it comes to a group with a group member who is the most outgoing, attractive, confident AND talented, the other group members expect that person to not go out a get something for him or her. They are banking on being carried by that individual. In addition when it comes to a group, there is always that 1 member that goes harder.

I respect Ali, but he has a solo album, a St Lunatics album, and a duo album with Gipp. And outside of the Lunatics album, the others were only moderately successful. He has a career that was longer than the average "non star" rapper

These group members and their blame games. If you rocked, you’ll still takeoff without the other party. Nelly was a star from day one. He showed you guys the light. It was incumbent on you to ride with it or let it slide.

DAMN...I was gonna say RIP TRELL before he even mentioned it...I came home feb'...I was there 98' summer when Trell would leave 40th and shoot to stl .. 🙏🏿

Ali said Nelly didn’t help him for his album, but in the same breath said he wrote all the hooks etc….If you doing All the writing how they gone help you? You already got it apparently 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

if all that happened why would you stay?

This just makes me respect yayo even more man. Play your part ali

Notice years later, his only play is to still talk Nelly!!! Nelly is living his absolute best life with Ashanti and making money!!!

I miss the old Nelly. He was hot 🔥 back in the day

St. Lunatics was a successful group, Murphy lee successful solo, Ali successful w/ big gipp. Seem like it worked out to me. Let it go man, I really like the St lunatics. It didn’t work how he wanted, but it worked.

Nelly Has Different Flows & Styles That Relate To A Variety Of People & That Sells More Than The Same Old Style, I GrewD Up On Labadie Back In The Early 80's Remember Him Moving From Texas & His Dad & Uncles Were Cool AF To All Of Nelly's Friends, I Am #1 Still My Favorite Diss Song !

😂😂😂😂😂 every interview Ali does he taaaaaaallllllkkkkkks for everrrrrrrrrr before he answer the questions

I hear what he saying but at the same time without Nelly the world wouldn’t know who Ali is and we do! After that what more can he do.. you got the light what you do with at that point is on you.

Sometimes you gotta go solo to get bigger, look at 50 he been was solo before g-unit but even when he came with g-unit he had to let go of the group because everybody not doing they job they get comfortable and be like forget it, and that can stun you as an individual

Glad he's speaking up

The crew and the hype man need to shine too

Im glad Nelly got on. If they were that good of a group they could’ve gotten a separate deal

Why does Shawn perez take a year and a day to ask a question??

Country Grammar sold 10,000,000 units and Ali was only given one writing credit for the song "steal the show" while city spud and Murphy Lee have multiple wring credits and producer credits for an album that went "diamond".

Shawn went on a rant about nelly and ali was like....whats your question 🤣

He sounds like he mad he ain't Pop

This is deep.. I don't understand why these writer's always helping friends get on, and never have their paperwork ready the right way...

Nelly was a natural star.

The st. Lunatics performed in my high school before they came out senior year 1998 St Louis Missouri.

Back in 97 we (Tracey Lee & RNF) met a producer in the studio in St Louis who said he witnessed Ali write Nelly’s rhymes. I didn’t believe him then, and I don’t care now. Nelly was the break out star of the group! Ali is a talented dude! WTF has Ali done since? 🤔

This man has a very, very jealous spirit!!

lol i love when he says his group 😂

He was ready to take off and put that work in and knew the business

Wow nelly got the whole group a deal

Ali hurt he didnt pop. Simple...

I’m Nelly and these are the St. Lunatics😂😂😂😂😂

I can’t wait for the movie