Alien vs Predator is a pile of wasted potential...

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CineCringe

CineCringe

Күн бұрын

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Welcome to CineCringe where we watch the best of the worst and the worst of the worst but never anything good- and today we are discussing the forgettable Alien vs Predator!
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@MisterAnonymous1000
@MisterAnonymous1000 Жыл бұрын
"Stop bothering trying to justify..." Sounds like something someone should've told Shane Black before he ruined The Predator 2019.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 2 жыл бұрын
Chris's idea of a movie in which the predators are running from the xenomorphs is not an alternate story for an AvP movie; it is in fact what happens in this film.
@Khadharphak
@Khadharphak 2 жыл бұрын
I like this movie to a certain extent. I don't have a problem with the whole "good predators" thing because that's honestly not what they are. Predator 2 displays they have a code of honour essentially, they respect when they are bested. The predator in this teaming up with the lady is not "buddy cop" it's simply he saw her best an enemy that was clearly superior to her and he respected that, so like Danny Glover in P2 he gives her a trophy weapon, which is also useful in this circumstance. And they stick together out of convenience, she's earned enough respect for him not to kill her, and she wants to survive so she sticks with the one guy who's not attempting to kill her right now. And you know, yeah she's not a soldier, but she is a survivalist. Literally, a professional survivalist. And we remember what happened to most of the soldiers in Aliens, right? They died. What was Ripley? She was a space trucker. And she survived a LOT. I dunno why the lady in this surviving is so unbelievable to you. :p AvP2 is fucking garbage though. The first one's a masterpiece in comparison. Ironic that 2 is the one that jettisons the plot and most of the human characters are throwaways like you wanted and it's all the worse for it... Oh boy, Gods of Egypt... I have never seen greenscreens so bad it actually carries over to some of the CG. A tragedy cause I love egyptian mythology and the premise is cool, just... everything else is a flaming trashpile.
@acdchook
@acdchook 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, seeing AvP2:Requiem will give you a newfound respect for this movie.
@Predaguy
@Predaguy 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the whole thing of her "besting" a xenomorph is that the movie doesn't portray it that way, she was literally cowering in a corner holding a spear and the alien jumped and impaled itself on it. She did not defeat it in combat, it was just too dumb to realize it would kill itself. I don't think the Predator would show any respect for such a display. If they had instead shown her actively picking up the spear and trying to use it despite being terrified at the time it would be a different story.
@mappes1
@mappes1 Жыл бұрын
I think that she should have become a more interesting prey after killing the xenomorph instead of an ally. I like it when predators stay monsters. They are intelligent monsters with a code of honor (or at least a code how to do things and how to hunt), but the code is creepy, fucked up and seldom to the benefit of the prey but more for the standing of the predator. I thought for example that the predator fighting arnold hand to hand or the predator duelling the yakuza was to show other predators that he took down a strong foe hand to hand (therefore making the thing he puts on the wall then more valuable), with similar weaponry as the prey, and not because they respect the foe. I like the line in predators: "sometimes one of us kills one of them - and thats when they get real interested". It is all about them and furthering their skills as killers. When in the end of p2 the predator hands over the gun to danny glover, it does it begrudgingly. Also they dont care if he wouldve died in the blast from takeoff. Similar with arnold - after being defeated he blows himself up. It does not matter if arnold survives or not. Not very respectful to someone you perceive as your equal. (Also one should keep in mind that it is very unrealistic in the first place that a human can take down a predator in hand to hand combat. It is mismatched from the start) In that vein, i also really like the idea that predators hunt each other, too.
@somemistakes6091
@somemistakes6091 2 жыл бұрын
They should’ve just done the original graphic novel, now that was epic
@riveraharper8166
@riveraharper8166 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The AvP Prey book was written a decade before the movie. And I think it was good.
@Lonewolf360gaming
@Lonewolf360gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching AvP as a kid so when I eventually got to watch some of the later alien movies I got confused about why there wasn't some alien dude with dreadlocks hunting down a xeno/xenos
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 2 жыл бұрын
I was a little disappointed in the design of the Predator, as fans said that they looked like scaly wrestlers.
@geoffmason7215
@geoffmason7215 2 жыл бұрын
what if they were on a distant planet in the far future and all the background of both species were already known by everybody...then all they would have to show us the action...does that work??
@SuzakuX
@SuzakuX Жыл бұрын
I'm still disappointed that this wasn't an adaptation of the Capcom beat 'em up starring cyborg Dutch Schaefer and Linn Kurosawa teaming up with a predator hunting party to repel an invasion of aliens.
@lampad4549
@lampad4549 Жыл бұрын
Well maybe you can go make one.
@Diegesis
@Diegesis 2 жыл бұрын
The best type of vs series might be something like a Jason Bourne vs James Bond type of thing.
@christophersims7060
@christophersims7060 Жыл бұрын
Dark Horse Comics did it right, so hopefully someday someone will actually bring that story to the big screen. I've had so many nightmares that were better than this story. It's also hard to to think of any of the ALIENS and Predators movies to be in the same reality\universe, thankfully we live in a world of Marvel "multiverse's".
@NestorCaster
@NestorCaster 2 жыл бұрын
@5:21: Honestly I didn’t mind the team up, besides, the comics, where a lot of the AVP inspirations came from before this film, basically had the Predators(Yautja) fight with/alternatively against the colonial marines against the Xenomorphs; however, what I didn’t like was their execution of the human/predator team up. That fact is, the Xenomorphs weren’t allowed to put forth enough of an existential threat, to make humans and predators so desperate, that they have no other choice but to work together to survive-- here you see that the predator could have basically solo this whole film, the human(Alexa), was basically a dead duck without the predator, and despite how deadly the Xenomorphs were and how many human ppl and predators they finished off, they were basically an enormous infestation problem. The plot stretched it self soooo much just to justify a team up (and a vs matchup) that could have been done in a simpler and more entertaining way, if the plot itself, was better written and directed.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 2 жыл бұрын
"the predator could have basically solo this whole film" -- except that we saw the xenos kill off all the other predators.
@andrewblanchard2398
@andrewblanchard2398 Ай бұрын
03:28 to 04:48 the big fight scene in the skull room was inspired by WRESTLEMANIA 3 HULK HOGAN vs ANDRE the GIANT the DIRECTOR said that was his version of 2 BIG GUYS beating the stuffing out of each other the PREDATOR even HULKS UP at one point during the fight
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see this movie on theaters, but got grounded for a few weeks after I got into a fight with a student at school. I finally got the film on DVD, but it was the crappy Fullscreen version. 10 years later, in 2005, I got the widescreen version on Amazon.
@MattDeMille
@MattDeMille Жыл бұрын
As a yuge fan of the original Predator and of Aliens, this movie . . . won my Buttfloss-Of-The-Year Award; It is as if a strip of undeveloped film was used as buttfloss, and they simply developed what was on it, and this is the movie.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
Good choice for a marathon in this vein: this director's Resident Evil movies. SO much schlock.
@Cobalt-Jester
@Cobalt-Jester Жыл бұрын
Do you know why AvP got made? There was going to be a new Alien movie. Bringing back a lot of the cast of Aliens, well the survivors, I think Cameraon was back as director... But because Freddy V Jason pulled in a decent profit the scrapped the new Alien movie and put together AvP. It went from the first draft to movie screens in less than 6 months.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
5:20 You want a good example of how you can have something scary, have it be a tame ally or even funny for a time, then go back to being scary, look up Red vs. Blue Season 8.
@brucewilson5829
@brucewilson5829 2 жыл бұрын
Batman v. Superman case closed 🤣💀
@jean-paulaudette9246
@jean-paulaudette9246 2 жыл бұрын
1:18 That's the complaint I've had about every Godzilla movie, ever. I don't care arbout the characters, I just want to see the headliner come out and start stompin some radioactively mutatated butt.
@BlackavarWD
@BlackavarWD Жыл бұрын
Monster movies usually have just the monsters as cameos. Jurassic Park finally got it right, and now we just have to wait around for someone else to do it. (Although I LOVE Shin Godzilla! If you understand the original Godzilla and modern politics, it is perfection)
@Edward-xv3bo
@Edward-xv3bo 2 жыл бұрын
This is an entertaining movie. Its not great and has lots of faults but not sure it deserves to be in the Cinecringe vaults. There are lots more terrible cringy awful movies you guys could cover.
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 Жыл бұрын
This I agree with, cause it’s more interesting to see where this could’ve gone had the Sequel not decided to do something stupid shit. They really should’ve had another Predator in the story.
@richardcoulson6027
@richardcoulson6027 2 жыл бұрын
*Highly* recommend the 1st comic/graphic novel.
@Wirenfeldt1990
@Wirenfeldt1990 2 жыл бұрын
interesting.. another Diet Jesus crossover.. Rock on!
@ThatShyGuyMatt
@ThatShyGuyMatt 2 жыл бұрын
AVP has so much lore it could have used from the comics and novels. Instead it went for none of it. That and they keep doing PG-13 crap. Anything with Aliens or Predators should be R.
@paareth
@paareth 2 жыл бұрын
Are you guys going to do video game adaptions, like mortal kombat 2 or the worst of the worst street fighter? or Super Mario Bros, the worst of the worst of the worst :D
@CineCringe
@CineCringe 2 жыл бұрын
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe
@paareth
@paareth 2 жыл бұрын
@@CineCringe Great news! I hadn't realised they were releasing a new update to Mortal Kombat franchise. To be specific Mortal Kombat: Annihilation 1997 the 1995 one wasn't terrible and 2021 I haven't seen.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊 Can't wait for God's Of Egypt
@nomis
@nomis 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this movie...... And this still came before your review of Cabin Boy or Dreamcatcher??? Really??
@leninscorpse
@leninscorpse Жыл бұрын
You should watch Batman v Superman. Appropriately atrocious, spawning many a meme.
@Citizen88020120820
@Citizen88020120820 2 жыл бұрын
Very disappointing
@chb2551
@chb2551 Жыл бұрын
At 9:50, you talk about what "real scientists" do. I'm not sure what scientists you're talking about who ever do what you're saying they do. Real scientists, at least the ones in real life, see something they don't understand, make an assumption about what's causing what they're seeing, and only then do they work to prove or disprove what they're assuming. That's the way science has been done since time immemorial. Newton saw gravity working. He then had an idea about what could be causing it and proceeded to work to prove or disprove that idea. Einstein had the idea first, then worked out the math to narrow down and prove or disprove his idea. The sun was thought to be an average sized star and it was taught as such for a very, very long time. Those scientists who assumed that were proven absolutely wrong. It's actually a "Yellow Dwarf" star, in comparison to all of the stars they've seen in the visible universe. Pluto was thought to just be a big ball of ice, with nothing more to it. It was taught that way in school forever. Then, New Horizons came by and proved that they were wrong. It's more than that. It has geography. Flows of ice, mountains of ice, plains of ice, etc. It wasn't just a solid ball of ice swinging around the outer edges of the solar system. Regarding scientists in the medical field, have you ever read the information that comes with prescriptions? They always say that they think the medication works in a certain way on whatever area they're trying to help, but they even admit that they're not sure. Yet they tell you how it works anyways. So, clearly, "real scientists" look at something, make an assumption, and then work on that assumption until they're proven wrong.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 2 жыл бұрын
This movie falls into the so bad its good category. I like it, as it's a guilty pleasure.
@donotevenbegintocare
@donotevenbegintocare 2 жыл бұрын
Now do the sequel: Scott Pilgrim vs Predator
@riveraharper8166
@riveraharper8166 2 жыл бұрын
That's 10 sec tops!
@VilleHalonen
@VilleHalonen 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I'm glad I didn't end up watching it after all. It looks and sounds like a movie that would make me pull out all my hair. Can't wait for next week, since that shit looks absolute horrendous.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 2 жыл бұрын
AvP is better than this review made it out to be. It's a decent sci-fi thriller, if not very impactful, and not nearly as dumb as Prometheus or Covenant. Apart from the issue of the characters being forgettable, the criticisms in this video were just nitpicks.
@VilleHalonen
@VilleHalonen 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThreadBomb Yeah, I have some friends who like it as well so I acknowledge this is only one perspective. But I'm quite picky about scifi (and horror) flicks myself and this seems to feature many of pet peeves, including but not limited to clunky exposition and the overall visual style (camera work, creature design). I still might check it out sometime in the future, but I'm in no rush.
@ClayLoomis1958
@ClayLoomis1958 2 жыл бұрын
What confused me most about this movie was that Alien blood could melt a Predator double knife, but you can chop an Alien's head off with the Predator throwing blade and it comes through untouched by the blood. I would think they would make their knives out of the same, acid-resistant metal that the throwing blades are made of. But, you know, that's just human thinking.
@jculver1674
@jculver1674 2 жыл бұрын
There were a number of "Alien Meets Predator" themed video games back in the day that were better than this, particularly an arcade game I used to play all the time that basically had the premise of: a group of Space Marines team up with a group of Predators to kill a bunch of Xenomorphs on a space station. And I always wondered why they didn't just use that premise for this movie. Even if it had been done in a cheesy way with professional wrestlers, it still would've been better than what we got. At least it wouldn't have skimped on the action.
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