AliExpress Wouldn't Lie... Right? - Crelander Dual Screen Laptop

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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Crelander wouldn't lie
0:38 - Build Redux!
0:54 - LTT Intro
1:02 - Linus has high expectations
3:20 - Screens (first reaction)
4:18 - Trackpad, keyboard
5:56 - Stated vs. real specs
8:01 - Cinebench
9:30 - Screens (labs report)
11:28 - Webcam
12:08 - Teardown
14:44 - Speakers
15:14 - Squarespace!
16:08 - Outro

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@Alias_Anybody Жыл бұрын

Honestly, they were SO CLOSE. Better BIOS (CPU boost and proper RAM usage), 20 bucks more for the panel and a less bizarre keyboard layout, and this would be a hidden gem.

@RobGMun Жыл бұрын

The panel isn't even a deal braker for me. For a screen that size the resolution is fine. And the cpu and ram can be fixed with a firmware update. So close to being a hidden gam as you say

@313A9 Жыл бұрын

@paras shut up man

@logmaster534 Жыл бұрын

@RobGMun the problem with the display is the horrendous colors. With a coverage like that it is probably even strongly noticeable to the average person.

@Pete292323 Жыл бұрын

you can remap the keyboard easily.

@leonro Жыл бұрын

Not even a different kb layout, just swap a couple of key positions. But there's no way they could just add two cores to an i7-10750H, so you can't just "fix" it entirely.

@PatrickAdairDesigns Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe Linus has never heard of the clearly superior right-shift-backspace key placement.

@hueman69420 Жыл бұрын

I like apples

@grants7390 Жыл бұрын

@paras you didn't cook the rice first did you. if not try again with cooked rice.

@nordicsweetroll Жыл бұрын

Well shoot, didn't expect to see you here Patrick lmao

@-MrEVIL- Жыл бұрын

Love your ring designs man 😌

@aleksandrpetrosyan1140 Жыл бұрын

Linus hasn’t learned of a lot of things.

@Jaeboy Жыл бұрын

07:21 having worked in China, I can tell you why they partition boot and user files separately. It comes from the old school mindset where you'd had to re-install windows once in a while to keep it snappy. Keeping the user files away removes the hassle of having to use an external drive for backup. (We're talking Win Me/ XP era).

@bensterWasHere Жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@Michelbouf 5 ай бұрын

old school mindset? my friend I still do that, how is that old school haha

@lumpython5351 4 ай бұрын

Chinese are hopelessly stubborn.

@Epilogue_04 4 ай бұрын

Is this reliable today?

@SamratDuttabdn 2 ай бұрын

We do this in india too

@MVVblog 7 ай бұрын

02:10 Do you seriously not know that socket is an OCuLink port? Are you kidding me? Amazing!

@Spiderjin 7 ай бұрын

He doesn't know anything; he only makes funny faces, lol.

@robertoscarpari5332 6 ай бұрын

Grande Marco!

@marcoc.4934 6 ай бұрын

Dignene!!!

@Superjet41 6 ай бұрын

Ciao Marcoo!

@matteopietrelli1395 6 ай бұрын

marco mio padre

@milannekuhh9818 Жыл бұрын

The editors with their little funny details, I love it. The flipped HDMI port icon😅

@toetie2019 Жыл бұрын

@Daniel Leone is this supposed to be funny…

@Vplis Жыл бұрын

OMG i came down to the coments just to mention this! i loved the animation

@dougr8646 Жыл бұрын

@toetia Please help my computer isn't working I deleted windows but now it has an ugly screen with some monster. Help?

@SadSephiroth Жыл бұрын

Beat me to the comment lol

@BananaGusFringFan Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@LiquidThunder12 Жыл бұрын

The way Alex comes into frame with something to say and immediately looks to camera, even when talking to Linus, always makes me laugh. It's endearing for some reason haha

@robertt9342 Жыл бұрын

It’s like an office reaction.

@bsame Жыл бұрын

@@robertt9342 What do you mean? He is in an office, that's his workplace.

@robertt9342 Жыл бұрын

@@bsame . It’s a tv show….

@hoofhearted4 Жыл бұрын

@@robertt9342 he is Jim. wonder who he pranks? who is the Dwight of LTT?....now i need an episode where they compare everyone in LTT to an Office character.

@BEAST.420G Жыл бұрын

Alex is basically Linus’ little minion lol

@yiany Жыл бұрын

I really loved how the HDMI icon flipped to reflect the actual orientation of it on the machine.

@slatefeather320 Жыл бұрын

It would be a fun video idea to "fix" this laptop. Throw in a more relaible SSD, swap the ram out, fix the bios and let the cpu boost to higher clock speeds. Maybe even fix the weird keyboard layout by remapping the keys in software. It might be a very good deal in terms of performance even after accounting for the price of the fixes.

@Montisaquadeis Жыл бұрын

Can't really remap the power button in this case since it is where backspace is normally on a keyboard. As for "fixing" the BIOS/UEFI that would take a software engineer to do correctly honestly and they would have to have PROPER knowledge of BIOS/UEFI and they work in the modern era to be able to "properl;y" fix the dang thing.

@DawidSikora Жыл бұрын

reprogramming BIOS is unrealistic but the rest would be cool

@hahahhaha8146 Жыл бұрын

hell why not even add a PCIe based egpu for it! i mean it does apparently advertise to support it

@Oque.Nos.Somoss Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@Aarthurnax Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't flashing the BIOS actually fix the problem? Maybe I'm just dumb, but I had to upgrade my PC BIOS so it could support TPM 2.0 to install Windows 11, so I believe simple updating should go beyond that

@MBUncle Жыл бұрын

Honestly it's very worth a follow-up video with Anthony tinkering further with the Bios and try to find a boost solution. There has to be a way to unlock that CPU boost!

@SilverReviews Жыл бұрын

I agree, and upgrading the ram and remapping the keyboard. I am curious to see how much more expensive it would be and time consuming to get things working exactly as needed.

@abdullahbhatti4234 Жыл бұрын

And upgrading the ram +nvme

@The_Keeper Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, those upgrades won't do anything about the extremely crap display. I mean, you *could* upgrade that too, but that is so much more difficult.

@Wolfy11188 Жыл бұрын

@@The_Keeper I mean possibly but it could also be very simple. I had an old Samsung laptop 10 years ago that had such an easy screen replacement. I barely knew what I was doing and it took maybe 30 mins. If you can get one that's the right size and connectors for less than $100 then it could be a simple fix for a big boost.

@arthurcady6302 Жыл бұрын

I'm disappointed they didn't do this here lol

@ruatachhangte Жыл бұрын

That flipping HDMI animation there was a nice touch which made me chuckle in delight. Whoever edited this, you are on top of your game.

@thebaker8637 Жыл бұрын

There’s credits at the end of the video if you want to know who the editor is. :)

@gamamew Жыл бұрын

Mark Rathgeber he edited this 👌

@malikant1335 Жыл бұрын

@@gamamew Mark*

@OmniUni Жыл бұрын

It's probably worth noting that as with a lot of these types of computers, the components likely vary somewhat. Especially things that are easy to swap; the RAM, the SSD, even the LCD panel, are probably whatever stock is reasonably close and that they want to move. Even with the slight mismatch on specs, to be honest, it's a super cool computer for under $800.

@jujuria13 9 ай бұрын

You guys have no idea how efficient china has become. They've been pushed to the limit on cost Saving while maintaining ok quality. No one can beat China in production prowess

@sheeplord4976 8 ай бұрын

Except Taiwan apparently.

@otdosa 4 ай бұрын

Yeah but a bad screen is a deal-breaker for some.

@witcdesigns1693 Жыл бұрын

Personally I have never been able to build muscle memory to use Right-Shift, but that power button is unforgivable. When I still had my MacBook (2015) I always hit the power button when aiming for backspace.

@arnobchowdhury9641 Жыл бұрын

Exactly I always use Left Shift only.

@kobacongaming7228 Жыл бұрын

Yeaaaa that's what I was thinking. Who uses right shift lol left shift is more intuitive

@antonhelsgaun 10 ай бұрын

Yeah I'd much rather have the delete button there

@temporal_paradox 9 ай бұрын

I've never used right shift in my life

@michaelingram9354 Жыл бұрын

I love the upside down HDMI port on the specs portion instead of the usual right side up graphic. Props for the fun little things

@EsotericWizard Жыл бұрын

nice eye! So glad you noticed -- what a great detail

@beardsntools Жыл бұрын

Yeah lmao you can see it flip

@BoJackHorsemann Жыл бұрын

but they managed to screw up the USB 3.0 icons lol

@DeSlagen8 Жыл бұрын

@@EsotericWizard Linus brought it up thoufg

@amandagirlygirl12 Жыл бұрын

Big question is:did they [A] flip the HDMI port by accident & incompetence? Or [B], by design, on PURPOSE, and if so: what DA FUCK was it? I'm inclined to think [A]

@aravindudayakumar7074 Жыл бұрын

I'm interested in seeing the BIOS options on this laptop. A lot of Chinese laptops from little-known brands have very customizable and unlocked BIOS settings, so there might be a way to manually increase the RAM speeds, adjust the CPU TDP and clocks, and more.

@toboekey1273 Жыл бұрын

And u forgot to mention they frel cheap n looks like crap 🙄 id only pay $10usd fuckin bucks for that shitty laptop lol 🤣

@CutieBarj Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, the bios is something to look at here

@patrickkeller2193 Жыл бұрын

considering the heatsink, they probably expect one hell of an overclock on that cpu

@nayan.punekar Жыл бұрын

@@patrickkeller2193 lmao

@KILLERMATYCZ Жыл бұрын

@@patrickkeller2193 Well, H is not unlocked, so no overclock, just boost.

@falkenvir Жыл бұрын

The power button on the backspace location is actually a total deal breaker

@alexatkin Жыл бұрын

That and the deleted right shift.

@jojomicheldu59 Жыл бұрын

@@alexatkin Wait, people actually use rshift ?

@Omar-ki2dy Жыл бұрын

Sure, pay 3 times more for those buttons you can't live with. A genius like you absolutely needs those button to work at nasa. 🫠

@pepp77 Жыл бұрын

The power button isn’t actually where the backspace should be though, it’s on the line above the numbers and the backspace is correctly on the line with the numbers, he’ll my £1200 cell laptop has the same setup, just with a bigger backspace button, but the power button is in the exact place as on this. Never once hit power instead of backspace.

@scarx4181 4 ай бұрын

Backspace location would dive me nuts, but the shift key wouldn't be a dealbreaker. I use the left shift for everything(still type around 140-150 wpm last I checked). I never even realized I had that habit until you brought up the right shift key in this video!

@jar768jake Жыл бұрын

14:59 Linus going in sync with the crab bounce for a quick second made my day

@deliciouschicken Жыл бұрын

Gotta be honest. I can't tell you the last time I used the right shift key. That being said this keyboard design is strange.

@mango-float Жыл бұрын

I have never ever used the right shift key. Even going back to when I was in pre-school I've never touched it

@alexdavis9324 Жыл бұрын

After you pointed it out. I litterally never use it either. Fuck it time to make it a macro button

@levanivashadze Жыл бұрын

Guess you never heard of touch typing

@OleJanssen Жыл бұрын

@paras Go to hell, Bot! That's all you need.

@ArmiaKhairy Жыл бұрын

I use it when both pressing it and right ctrl to quicly highlight a word with my left hand. also use it to change writing from LTR to RTL.

@guest_4416 Жыл бұрын

I love the details the editor put by placing the hdmi port upside down in the spec sheet

@jannemakinen4807 Жыл бұрын

Love you even flipped hdmi icon on your demostrations of what it has :D +respect

@lenano Жыл бұрын

That rear PCIe connector looks a lot like OCuLink. It's a thing that was supposed to be a Thunderbolt competitor but ended up mostly being used internally in servers for NVMe connections. Hope they didn't mess with the pinout or something lol, would be interesting to see if it works. Also I love that they straight up put the PCIe logo on the back lol.

@theinktician Жыл бұрын

disappointed they didnt test that

@jaykoerner Жыл бұрын

@@theinktician they didn't even know it existed till filming, so hard to test

@danieljones9937 Жыл бұрын

@@jaykoerner They probably should have known; on the aliexpress site it says that the machine supports external graphic cards and makes no mention of the USB-C port being Thunderbolt (because presumably, it isn't). 'External Graphics Card Interface * 1' is also in the ports list(this is in the section where it lies about the capabilities of the 10750H and the RAM though, so maybe that was just dismissed as more lies). What's hilarious is they appear to have photoshopped right-shift and backspace keys (in their proper positions) onto the image where it details the WIFI capabilities of the machine (but it looks like the keys are power and delete in the other photos where they are visible).

@slavb0i646 Жыл бұрын

@@danieljones9937 that express card slot is only like 1x, any gpu would not be good on that. maybe like an add on card such as a m.2 slot card but other than that is pretty useless for gpu's

@debug9424 Жыл бұрын

@@slavb0i646 this isn't an expresscard slot It looks like OCuLink, which has 4 lanes

@thavionhawkmkii4509 Жыл бұрын

After working computer tech in a college town for over a decade, one full of Asian students in particular, I can confirm that the vast majority of computers they brought from home had three or more partitions even on SSDs. The computers that came in sourced from the US did not often have this layout making me sure that it's a regional standard thing.

@epicoddgamer2900 Жыл бұрын

This way we can reinstall windows and not lose all our data

@Didier88600 Жыл бұрын

I'm european and have usually 3 partitions on my computers.... not a big deal to setup if you dont want to loose data.

@MEICKK Жыл бұрын

@@Didier88600 i've never thought of that... I should do that next time i te install windows lol

@Chief_bLCK_pN Жыл бұрын

Yeah, one of my college m8s also bought a laptop recently, and it has like 4 partitions. I see epic odd gamers reasoning behind 2 partitions, but y more?

@jokuemt Жыл бұрын

@@epicoddgamer2900 or just have dedicated 128-250gb windows drive lol

@swingstylez Жыл бұрын

The Zen Duo has Thunderbolt 3. The Duo has two similar heat pipes. One also covers the GTX chip.

@_Aking_ Жыл бұрын

This video makes me think: how much would it cost to buy a cheap AliExpress laptop and upgrade it (memory, storage, etc..) and end up with something better than buying a real laptop. I hope to see a video like this soon

@arivald6677 Жыл бұрын

Since its stolen project you could probably buy spare display and keyboard and try to craft it up.

@sebastianjost Жыл бұрын

The problem might be to get a proper bios.

@pfizerpricehike9747 Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianjost fax If the manufacturer can’t even , how shall we ?

@kerbo312 Жыл бұрын

"real" I mean those aren't usually the best quality laptops, but they definitely not imaginary either

@MiniRockerz4ever Жыл бұрын

You still pay tons of import taxes when buying from AliExpress... years ago it might have been cheaper, now not really. EU citizen experience...

@HaydenLikeHey Жыл бұрын

If it helps, I never use the right shift key so that keyboard wouldn't be incredibly terrible to use imo

@fsendventd Жыл бұрын

yeah exactly, I'm like "people use right shift??" I'd be happy to split it in half and get back two of the keys I lost from that trackpad

@FrankFurther Жыл бұрын

I refuse to believe anyone uses the right shift key.

@ColtenMHickerson Жыл бұрын

@@FrankFurther it must be a canadian thing because we were never taught to use the right shift key in keyboard class. But then again i taught myself playing runescape as a kid in the early 2000's.

@your_average_cultured_dude Жыл бұрын

@@ColtenMHickerson keyboard class???? is that something taught in schools where you live? in my country computer related stuff isn't taught in school and almost everyone types with just 2 fingers

@Gr33nMamba Жыл бұрын

I blame Mavis Beacon teaches typing. I have never ever used the right shift key for anything. Yes I can hold down the left shift key with my pinky and still hit any left hand character, including z quickly.

@Ender_Wiggin Жыл бұрын

That connector is called the OCulink x8. It give you external PCIe support. Mostly found in the server hardware world. Super cool to see. Wish framework did some thing similar.

@wtfdinges Жыл бұрын

The Heoraidy brand for the SSD isn't that strange actually. I've lived in China for a while and I've seen that brand quite often for memory related devices. I even bought one for an awefully slow PC that was controlling a measurement system and it worked fine.

@eygs493 Жыл бұрын

lol

@_Forsaker Ай бұрын

its Heoriady

@de_stroyed Жыл бұрын

7:35--no, Linus. They know what they are doing. They partition the drives to make it SEEM like it has an extra hard drive in it or a secondary drive to the less technically inclined. I fell victim to this too when I was 14ish, wanting to get my Windows XP computer fixed at a sketchy repair shop. They partitioned my drive and claimed they added another hard-drive, but they didn't add anything.

@Lightingkid2010 9 ай бұрын

they dont know what they are doing of they are doing that lol

@de_stroyed 9 ай бұрын

@@Lightingkid2010 no, because they charged me extra for a hard drive they didn't even put in

@Terahydron 9 ай бұрын

@@de_stroyed you didn't see the size was same?

@de_stroyed 9 ай бұрын

@@Terahydron I was a kid that didn't know much about these things as I know now and I forgot how the storage amount I had.

@Tyry_Pyry 8 ай бұрын

they use a partitioned disk to pay Microsoft less for installing Windows

@jasonwu2758 Жыл бұрын

Partitioning still makes sense if you format your OS drive often and still wish to keep backup storage. Everything else.. But hopefully like retro handhelds (which have evolved heaps in the last 2+ years), they will listen to customers and reviews and with next iterations they can get much closer to a fantastic affordable alternative.

@jasonwu2758 Жыл бұрын

@@zaandam0172 As I'm aware it's not automatic. You can partition when you install the OS. Back in the day you did in through fdisk commands through DOS. Don't think you were alive yet..

@Natewu188 Жыл бұрын

i partition my drives for organization

@sergeymaximenko3049 Жыл бұрын

I cannot imagine anyone willingly partitioning their primary SSD with Windows nowadays. (Except for using different FFS for different partitions, but that is a rare case) With all these updates and applications that don't allow you to choose drive to install to, it will be waste of space and space management overhead. You will end up bouncing big files and applications between partitions. Or backing all up before using 3rd party tools to repartition disk. Why will anyone go into these complications?

@jasonwu2758 Жыл бұрын

@@sergeymaximenko3049 Yep. Why not buy another SSD/Nvme drive for backup? Of course everyone on earth has easy access to it and the means to purchase it. What if they can only afford one large SSD? Will they re-install a whole Steam library of games when the OS fails? Will they buy a NAS for storying a library of media? You have enough sata ports to get more than 4 drives? Those are just 3 scenarios. Makes no sense to "you" I can see. Ohhh wait.. They can just backup everything on the cloud right? because everyone has 1 Gigabit fibre. My bad.

@alexatkin Жыл бұрын

@@Natewu188 That's literally what folders are for.

@arax20 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see ltt labs talk about Linux support, especially for these more obscure devices

@furykillerBZ Жыл бұрын

It still blows my mind about Linus needing the right shift key. I don't think I've ever used that key

@Der_X_Buddne Жыл бұрын

Common - it's like *extra* *bold* *capital* *meaty* *LETTERS* :D

@eighthu Жыл бұрын

yeah fr i use the left shift almost exclusively when typing 😂

@squrrll Жыл бұрын

If you learn proper touch-typing, you're supposed to right shift when capitalizing left hand letters.

@MichaelLaFrance1 Жыл бұрын

I've been using keyboards for many decades, and until I watched this video, I hadn't noticed that I have NEVER used the right shift key.

@ichijofestival2576 10 ай бұрын

@@MichaelLaFrance1 Same here, except I feel like *maybe* I use it when I capitalize a letter on the left side. Except now That I'm actually Trying it, Without exception, I Seem To use The left Shift key... Huh. Maybe it really it useless.

@dragon2knight Жыл бұрын

Methinks the editors got that raise, it's just amazing the work they've been doing on here lately! I might just want to try this one out--it looks like fun!

@B-rad1 Жыл бұрын

I love that the editors add as much personality to the video as the presenters do. It's such a cohesive operation.

@johnmay9598 Жыл бұрын

So... -Upgrade ram -Add second (NVME) storage drive -Remap keyboard ... There simply has to be a way to extract more performance out of that CPU. With those changes, you've got a pretty good stand in for the duo.

@piersonm5574 Жыл бұрын

The ram isn't even running at the rated speed of 2666, let alone the advertised speed. I don't even think the bios supports xmp

@johnmay9598 Жыл бұрын

@@piersonm5574 The BIOS really does appear to be the main thing standing in the way of this being a really salvageable product for people who thought the Duo was a cool idea but weren't willing to pay the exorbitant MSRP for a cool idea. 2666 isn't terrible; I'm typing this on a 2019 Razer Blade with 2666 DDR4.

@piersonm5574 Жыл бұрын

@John May yeah 2666 is great, my laptop is still rocking ddr3 lol. What I'm saying is I don't think upgrading ram will help because it will always run at 2400mhz

@7evive Жыл бұрын

@@johnmay9598 the thing is that yout laptop must have a dedicated GPU. Since this run on integrated graphics it's more dependent of ram speeds. In a laptop with integrated graphics DDR5 makes a noticeable improvement to the igpu

@johnmay9598 Жыл бұрын

@@7evive We're talking about a ~$750 price point, and a non-gaming laptop. You're... not getting DDR5.

@mikkelbreiler8916 Жыл бұрын

11:50 I like when Linus extends his hand towards the webcamera, the colours in the live picture turn to near greyscale to a second. Now that is crappy.

@Psychx_ Жыл бұрын

Regarding that PCIe slot on the back: It looks very similar to what's used in servers to put PCIe devices into a separate, external chassis. I.e. look at a "Bressner PCIE x8 Gen3 Dual-Port" add-in card. It seems to be using similar sockets. From what I've found, these connectors are actually standardized by PCI-SIG! You can also find some cables by looking up "iPass PCIe x8 cable" or "external PCIe x8 cable".

@ImronRosyadi-fj1rk 6 ай бұрын

thats the oculink port

@timmtn Жыл бұрын

No.. the reason to partition your harddrive, if you only have 1, is to have on partition for data/steam/games/etc and another partition for OS, so you can format the OS partition, every time you want to reinstall your OS. This way you dont have to reinstall all your steam games, or move your data, to external storage for a re-install.

@shawnpitman876 Жыл бұрын

I just have a drive that's only my OS LUL

@Nabee_H Жыл бұрын

Anyone who would actually want to do that though would probably just do it themselves. Your average person just wants an unpartitioned drive.

@BackseatStudios Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's a very common thing with Chinese people.

@SamuelLing Жыл бұрын

@@Nabee_H I used to do tech support in my dorm, and I learned about partitioning the hard drive thing, it seems like people act very recklessly on their drive, removing important stuff that keep their PC, not sure how they do it, but somehow there's always issue on the C drive, so I make a partition and told them, "no matter what you do, use the D drive, don't use the C drive for your college stuff and work", I never heard any problem on their PC wont boot after they do clean up for next semester. it's kinda like dumb proofing the PC IMO

@corwinweber693 Жыл бұрын

The problem is that's a Linux thing that never really HAS worked on Windows. Yes, you can do that with Linux easily. Hell you can do that with pretty much any UNIX type system. Windows defaults to installing everything to C: and it gets very pissy if you don't get with the program files, capiche?

@HenryTitor Жыл бұрын

The reason for multi-partition is the force of habit from old time Windows which people got used to using C:/ drive for system installation. D:/ drive for personal data such as documents, and , sometimes, E:/ drive for either games, entertainment, or other softwares. This is probably the result of sudden shift of OS from Unix to Windows. But I’m too young to know that, and this was the explanation given to me from older tech people in China

@norfolkngood8960 Жыл бұрын

Kinda I still do it from those days but that's because as a technician I've had to deal with so many unbootable windows installs and repair takes a longer if you have to backup their data first. Partition the drive redirect my document folders to second partition and then if you need to wipe you can do so with no data loss and no backups first. It's not so bad now windows has gotten better and with the PE environment now but it still stands I've still had a corrupted 10 install that saved the client time by a wipe and reload than spending time trying to figure out a fix

@jeehaa7099 Жыл бұрын

I like to backup different partitions at different times to different external backup drives. Therefore I use D: for Windows, D: for small important files like docs and photos, E: for big projects, F: for music and G: for less important stuff like downloads. This is also great for making everything neat and organized. Some of theses drives are external and apart from the smaller C: all others are 1TB or bigger.

@jeehaa7099 Жыл бұрын

I mean C: for Windows

@ck5071 Жыл бұрын

No, you're pretty much right. Especially back in the day when hard disks had small capacity. But the practice is still done today in more professional area. In case you have to "reformat and reinstall the OS + apps" you don't have to worry so much about losing your Documents / music / videos / etc.

@TehKaiser 9 ай бұрын

If you do clones, a smaller partition can be useful since a smaller drive costs less for a company to salvage filrs

@ratedRblazin420 10 ай бұрын

I love how you flipped the HDMI port when you listed the ports the laptop had

@chasevanderheede9264 Жыл бұрын

1:30 that hdmi flip really got me 🤣 good one

@gauntAuriga Жыл бұрын

They still have that "power button on or near where backspace or delete should be" layout on the 2021 model of HP's Omen laptops! Huge dealbreaker IMHO.

@marcusborderlands6177 Жыл бұрын

Had a power button on the close right edge of my old msi laptop. Very fun to try to rotate my laptop so someone else could see it and having it shut down.

@vagner995 Жыл бұрын

Partitioning the boot drive allows you to reinstall the OS without formatting all the data, only the OS partition data. Pretty common.

@ShreddlyMaps Жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying this. It makes me rage that they don't realize this.

@HIKKG Жыл бұрын

I was surprised, too, that Linus's team hadn't told him about it. Apart from the fact that Linus himself has been a computer enthusiast for a very long time...

@EnioFernandes Жыл бұрын

Re-installing the OS already preserves the data if you don't reformat, and the recovery options also allow you to keep data...

@techno6637 Жыл бұрын

Thank you ! I am appalled I had to scroll so far to find this.

@techno6637 Жыл бұрын

@@EnioFernandes not for privateers or when you deal with 3-10 year old laptop. Or even with data recovery, makes so much easier if know you only have to copy D partition and got all important data.

@robertfagg2709 Жыл бұрын

Really would have liked to see them upgrade the RAM and see performance after because this is an enticing prospect

@sergeaudenaert 9 ай бұрын

Nice review - i was inspired to buy one😊 - i remapped the keys with powertoys… delete is now right shift and shift backspace is now delete… works like a gem 😂

@tremor6160 8 ай бұрын

Is it possible to remap the power button?

@sliceofbread965 Жыл бұрын

These AliExpress laptop reviews have been great! Especially with their presentation. Keep em coming, maybe make a playlist if you make enough of them 👀

@ItsGonnaB3Sick Жыл бұрын

One good reason to partition a boot drive (especially on a laptop) is to keep your OS separate from your files in case you want to format or if windows update screw your files. Always did that even on ssd so it's way easier to clean install and keep the important stuff.

@bland9876 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know you could clean install without having to erase your entire hard drive That's really cool however I still would do this myself because having a separate drive for all your data is easier to navigate in the file structure.

@ItsGonnaB3Sick Жыл бұрын

@@bland9876 sure 2+ drives is always the best but I was talking about laptop in general. They most of the time come with only 1 drive so you make the best of what you have. 1TB ssd for an OS boot partition is excessive imo. That's why I normally cut it to have the strict minimum on the boot drive.

@Catani84 Жыл бұрын

Same here....I never cared about the speed or use of the HDD. I always did and do 2 partitions ..one for the OS and the second for all my files so when everything inevitably craps out in Windows I can format in 5 minutes without worrying about losing files or backups. Way easier. Problem is even though I do it for most of my clients and I explain to them why and how to do it a lot of them just save everything in Documents or Desktop and cry when they lose everything when something goes wrong.

@robertt9342 Жыл бұрын

@@Catani84 . Just have the desktop and documents folder associate to the other partition.

@FragmaKepi Жыл бұрын

Here in Taiwan I see many people partitioning their drive for this exact reason. One of the possible reasons I could think of is when someone runs into a problem with Windows and they ask on the forums, many of the replies are simply "just reinstall Windows". So they just do a reinstall everytime as a early fix rather than as a last resort, and partitioning it makes it so easy to do.

@zorilla0 Жыл бұрын

Sadly, ~63% sRGB coverage is still pretty much the norm in 2023 for IPS displays in budget laptops, even for major brands. Even not-so-budget models are affected. For instance, I have yet to use a ThinkPad T-series laptop that does any better (I'm sure better screens can be optioned, but who actually ordered them that way?). Even the P50 I had briefly a couple years ago was just as bad. You can usually tell if a laptop comes with one of these because it will be labeled something like "43% NTSC" on the spec sheet and/or have a max brightness of 250 nits instead of something better.

@markcofre2153 8 ай бұрын

Me encanta que se hayan dado el trabajo de incluir pista de audio en español ❤!!!!

@bhavikn28 Жыл бұрын

Linus roasting the best webcam in a laptop LOL 12:00

@plantmc9319 Жыл бұрын

I love how Linus time stamps his own intro. That’s quality you won’t see elsewhere, you have my respect.

@alexgrae8226 Жыл бұрын

U should do this more. Its so fun. Your reactions are so hilarious.

@danieljones9937 Жыл бұрын

I'd totally buy one of these and deck it out(new RAM, a couple of decent NVMe drives in RAID...) if I knew the Oculink port worked. I have a Macbook Pro from 2017 now (almost permanently in bootcamp) with a Razer PCIe enclosure and it's starting to show its age.

@dillonberch243 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, kinda lame they didn't do anything with that. It's one of the more interesting features on the machine.

@wilrivas4556 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update and information

@EspyMelly Жыл бұрын

It's really funny how they didn't have to lie at all, even at its actual specs it seems to be really good value, especially if they had properly coded the BIOS. You can tell the people involved in this have an ingrained scammer mentality of trying to make the most out of whatever they have no matter how much they lie about it, even when it's not really necessary. Old habits die hard.

@coherentpanda7115 Жыл бұрын

That's Aliexpress for you. Chinese companies that have no business making laptops score a couple pallets of pre-builts from one of the 1,000 random OEM's building cheap laptops, then slap their logo on the bios, juice up the spec sheet to sell the lot quickly, and disappear overnight.

@nedkominchev1480 Жыл бұрын

For me the reason for partitioning is to use same image for all choices of ssd - from 128 GB up to 1 TB

@csharpcoffee Жыл бұрын

If the keyboard layout was the only flaw, you could band aid fix one of the 2 issues by using autohotkey to rebind the delete key to shift, although you'd have to map delete to something of your choosing (maybe shift+del)

@olik136 Жыл бұрын

I haven't used the right shift key in my entire life- so that would be ok with me- but the power button in the backspace place...

@Der_X_Buddne Жыл бұрын

@@olik136 Try it, it's *AWESOME* :D

@lukasg4807 Жыл бұрын

@@olik136 I thought that too and then realized a day later that I actually do use it.

@ELECTROHAXZ Жыл бұрын

I really like these Aliexpress product videos, you should do more!

@foxs49er Жыл бұрын

I almost never use the right shift key. I was a stubborn kid who refused to learn the right shift so I left shift everything. So that keyboard makes perfect sense to me (at least the sift key part).

@werdylp Жыл бұрын

I would really like to see you upgrading this laptop to what it should be if they wouldn’t lie and see if it is still worth the price

@anonomonus Жыл бұрын

I got one before Xmas, Loaded Ubuntu with no major issues. Only issue is bottom screen acts as if it is a full screen with touch, But still very happy with it for the price and not having driver issue.

@trucker2215 Жыл бұрын

The external graphics card dock from crelander makes this thing bad ass you connect it to the pci express port on back of the laptop and add your graphics card to the dock and It uses the laptop screen which is pretty cool

@am53n8 Жыл бұрын

I don't trust aliexpress enough to make a big purchase like a laptop there, but seeing this thing I can't help but wonder how good laptops on there will be in the near future

@iMind-Juris Жыл бұрын

11:40 that microphone is like 5x better than the HP they showed after

@greggv8 Жыл бұрын

I used to make a partition in the middle of the hard drive just for the swap file. That ensured it would not get fragmented and all of it was never more than halfway across the drive for quicker access.

@alexatkin Жыл бұрын

it wouldn't make a difference to fragmentation where it is on the drive, its a partition, it will be treated the same wherever it is. But the seek time to access it was definitely a thing.

@bobgill3424 Жыл бұрын

Just had a stroke 3 days ago you guys and these videos are keeping my spirits up.great work guys

@nathenieldanta9731 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that , hope you had recovery plan on the way

@ombie7317 Жыл бұрын

15:13 squarespace 👹👹👹👹👹

@Forcemaster2000 Жыл бұрын

I love when you check out these shady computers! I'd love to see you take one of these (this one maybe) and upgrade the components and see if you can improve it!

@yeagerc1372 2 ай бұрын

I Loved this video man just 2 guys chilling testing out this laptop, this is like a dream job seriously.

@Rzerac Жыл бұрын

6:53 My favourite part of the video is when Linus has to pause to do a take into what brand the SSD is. Absolute pearler watching him move closer in haha

@bugazselectro5046 Жыл бұрын

I got used to use the partittion in a case where I would reinstall windows. I like a fresh install every 2 - 3 years. Got a partittioned drive with windows install in one half and the rest of the stuff in the other half, meaning when I get a fresh install i dont need to format the whole drive just the partition with windows, and everything on the other partition stays 👍

@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын

That PCIe connector reminds me of the Alienware proprietary external GPU setup, but I wonder if it might be Oculink since that's an actual standard and also looks similar...

@mineythepro Жыл бұрын

Love how in the intro of the I/O they upside downed the HDMI port

@TheotanyaSama Жыл бұрын

For the price, specs wise, it is really decent despite the lies. But for me, the keyboard is a "no-go". Beside the weird layout that I'm not a fan at all, since at work I manipulate data with a lot of numbers, the absence of a numpad is just impossible

@DANNYonPC Жыл бұрын

Love how the HDMI port flipped in the details

@aincentbeast01 Жыл бұрын

The reason for extra partition in that if you need to reinstall windows you can keep the other partition and all the data on it

@luharris7127 Жыл бұрын

It's impressed that Linus swinged the laptop without dropping it.

@alter-x9749 8 ай бұрын

Linus won't lie to us about the sponsor so he got someone else to do it for him 💀💀

@LordNementon Жыл бұрын

Partitioning drives even on SSD make sense from a backup point of view, you can backup the whole drive. System/apps/data that's the ways

@maybedonn Жыл бұрын

The partition thing is common in some countries- people would typically put their important files on the non-OS partition so when Windows inevitably dies, the OS can be reinstalled without losing any of that data or having to extract it to another hard drive first.

@JxcksonSF Жыл бұрын

And you can just plug the drive in a new pc for quick and simple transfer.(unless you activated the drive encription)

@moafwaz5563 Жыл бұрын

exactly, I still do that to this day.

@mahdi9064 Жыл бұрын

he literally said its being done on an ssd not an hdd...

@jack_3246 Жыл бұрын

@@mahdi9064 No difference, the easy reinstall part still is true, the whole system partition can get wiped, where the other data can be relatively "safely kept" on the other partition. It's windows, not linux

@jabbany2715 Жыл бұрын

This. Also a lot of these oems have a rather rudimentary "recovery" setup, where the "recovery" process just nukes the OS partition and writes a default image. If it weren't partitioned they'd actually have to make actual recovery software to pick out the user data and the system.

@ampedandvolted Жыл бұрын

I thought I was done when I saw a barrel charging connector instead of USB-C in 2023, but then, that, keyboard, wow. It's like the lynx on a plane video when they get to the end and see the eyes wow

@fauxcuss2 Жыл бұрын

1:30 Okay, editor. That HDMI flip is one of the funniest things I've seen all day.

@Dude19971 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a follow-up video on some upgrades and a BIOS fix. Would be interesting to see how much it costs to get a steal of a Laptop

@fallalpha23 Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@pjrezai 11 ай бұрын

You can do a BIOS fix? I thought by saying that's how it is that they implied they couldn't reach the bios or something

@tonylaps Жыл бұрын

Another old school reflex of partitioning your drive is that viruses or something else infected or corrupted your filesystem so often, that you have to put your OS and files in separate partitions so you are ready to wipe out and reinstall an OS on the system partition at any time and make sure the issues are gone. Also installing a fresh OS on a partition with existing data and system did not seem like a popular option.

@norfolkngood8960 Жыл бұрын

Exactly this, not just viruses and malware but an unbootable os the quicker fix can be wipe and reload esp for a paying client. I do this on my personal pc still to this day and redirect the my document folders to the other drive letter. I was always taught keep user data and os separate

@creeperhaed1267 Жыл бұрын

1:30 funny flipped hdmi port

@SpeakChinglish Жыл бұрын

Around the disk partition I wonder if it is because people in China used to partition disks because it makes reinstalling OS easier. Back in the XP days it was common to restore an older version of a backed up OS or reinstall it completely. If you keep your files and even program files in a different drive. It makes the process faster and less painful. But it is 2023 now, seriously 😁

@kozmaz87 Жыл бұрын

Keyboards really are a dealbreaker. For example what put me off the framework laptop is that they went with the apple-clone design, which nobody asked for and they need separate top cover to fit a UK layout for example but they decided against it and they distorted the UK layout to fit the US layout cutouts...

@castor9907 Жыл бұрын

That's rough Hopefully they make proper regional layout modules in the future, since keyboards can be deal breakers on laptops

@CedomirIlic Жыл бұрын

I mean you could remap the keys... that power button though :/

@niter43 Жыл бұрын

@@CedomirIlic you tell Windows to ignore it, so it doesn't go to sleep when pressed. Maybe it's even possible to remap (not sure whether it's possible, probably doesn't register as key press)

@tjl2836 Жыл бұрын

@@niter43 I have it set to do nothing cause everyone always presses it whenever they get the chance

@VerhoevenSimon Жыл бұрын

Quite a quirky keyboard design, but with a remapping/swap and a corrected bios it seems like a pretty nice machine.

@prototype_0xD1 Жыл бұрын

The second partition allows you to store your data and reformat the C drive while preserving your data without having to offload it to an external drive. HP used to do this....

@bpcgos Жыл бұрын

That unusual power button placement is also Dell latest keyboard design change on their latitude laptop

@shockracer Жыл бұрын

I was hoping to see them fix the BIOS settings to see if it was even better the than the deal they got already!

@Accolyte1 Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to know if the bios has the settings to fix the performance issues.

@teslatrooper Жыл бұрын

on laptops the BIOS is often locked, but I would've liked to see them try atleast

@obedchattergoon2780 Жыл бұрын

@@Accolyte1 if the bios could be fixed to fix the ram and get turbo boost, then this laptop is worth the money hands down. Yeah it has a weird backspace/shift issue but who cares. Yes the top screen is bad but you could probably swap it with something better.

@DmnkRocks Жыл бұрын

would be interesting to see what it does with a better SSD and better memory (maybe some BIOS teaking)

@timrattenbury4768 Жыл бұрын

would love to see some bios hacks and ram upgrades on this!

@jemsncrystals Жыл бұрын

Its good to have a separate partition for boot even in ssd coz in case of anything goes sideways you can formst only the drive with os on it and your data partition will be intact

@alexatkin Жыл бұрын

Largely unnecessary these days as most people will backup their documents to the cloud, you should at LEAST be backing them up somewhere.

@minixtvbox 11 ай бұрын

Just had that

@DrProfNoNo Жыл бұрын

5:30 holup.. People use right shift? (for anything other than a random shortcut/mute key

@1............................. 5 ай бұрын

I think ingame shortcuts use that sometimes

@sjoervanderploeg4340 Жыл бұрын

Finally, someone that uses the RIGHT SHIFT KEY! I always get this unnerving feeling when I watch keyboard reviews and the reviewer has this unused right pinky... my right shift key even has the "well used gloss" on it :D

@sjoervanderploeg4340 Жыл бұрын

You can probably unlock the UEFI firmware yourself! There are ways to extract the image, edit it and repack it... these tools can be found on various forums related to UEFI hacking!

@anshgohane2746 Жыл бұрын

Great review Linus. Now can you please do a gaming test on this laptop and also upgrade its ram?

@zeinabtoghani9321 Жыл бұрын

would love to see a video where you try to upgrade this laptop and make it better! it seems like for the price and with a little effort it could be great

@_mike Жыл бұрын

5:35 - Not that much of a dealbreaker as it seems. People who buy a laptop like this should have some tech knowledge, so it should be fairly easy for them to remap those keys.

@Histaogram Жыл бұрын

7:43 A reason to create partitions probably would be to keep the data safe in case of a fresh install of the Windows on the C drive partition probably. That's why I used it on my laptop with an HDD.

@RezarkPvP Жыл бұрын

but on a ssd that would probably be redundant?

@Histaogram Жыл бұрын

@@RezarkPvP why would that be? If i want to reinstall my Windows install i just delete the c partition and install it in the empty space, if i have a single partition i have to move data using Linux live boot(if that works) and then reinstall my OS.

@alex-simpson Ай бұрын

Tbh this looks awesome. I'd totally buy one for general uni work/DAW usage at that price if a better BIOS flash was available.

@zippolight2002 Жыл бұрын

Can you do a Hamster Dance audio test next time? That was my go-to back in 2001-02 when working at a shop. IMO it's iconic and way better than the crab dance.