All Phantom Liberty Endings Ranked Worst to Best in Cyberpunk 2077

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An exploration of the various consequences and morality of Phantom Liberty's 4 endings in Cyberpunk 2077. Ranked by my analysis from Worst to Best.
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00:00 Intro
00:19 King of Swords
06:29 King of Cups
13:50 King of Wands
22:16 King of Pentacles
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@Zymemaru
@Zymemaru 5 ай бұрын
In true cyberpunk fashion it figures the ending where everyone lives is still considered the worst
@Strutsss
@Strutsss 4 ай бұрын
TRUTH. 'A happy ending? For folks like us? *Wrong city, wrong people.* ' T_T
@Garland846
@Garland846 4 ай бұрын
better to die on your feet than live on your knees
@radekwroblewski6641
@radekwroblewski6641 3 ай бұрын
Everyone if you don't count the legions od NUSA soldiers we Slaughter...
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 3 ай бұрын
Only difference is Alex dies, tho. In Pentacle + Tower everyone but Alex (and Johnny, I guess) lives. Not only that, everyone seems to have a better life. But V has trouble coping with the new life and everyone having moved on during his coma, which is completely understandable.
@JB-xl2jc
@JB-xl2jc 14 күн бұрын
So Mi is deeeefinitely better off not living than the horrors that await her returning to the FIA. It's established that her mind is fragmenting more each time, and after her escape attempt they'll be using her like a slave. She says over time the remnants of her shredded psyche will get stuck behind the blackwall, where they'll be tortured for all eternity. Pretty bleak... Not to mention, Reed is better off at the spaceport taking the hit for his ideals... than "living" as a desk jockey alcoholic agonizing for the rest of his life.
@dredgen0268
@dredgen0268 5 ай бұрын
Phantom Liberty is so good.
@susdino
@susdino 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I still can't decide whether the base game or phantom liberty more
@killmonger5097
@killmonger5097 5 ай бұрын
@@susdinoit’s all the same game
@FTBASTAR
@FTBASTAR 5 ай бұрын
Yes, dumped 200 hours into the game
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
The fact that it stays with you like this is a testament to its quality.
@cantu7214
@cantu7214 5 ай бұрын
Phantom Liberty cemented this game as my favorite of all time
@ShaunCushley97
@ShaunCushley97 5 ай бұрын
Going up against that bloody robot in Somewhat Damaged almost gave me a heart attack. Multiple times. I'm sure it's shortened my life. I'm also fairly convinced the developers made that level as a punishment for players who betrayed Songbird, because that's what it felt like.
@Nightingale_101
@Nightingale_101 5 ай бұрын
I was sneaking around during that part, and my roommate knocked on my window and scared the hell out of me. i nearly pissed myself.
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 5 ай бұрын
Yep . The cut content showed so mi would have given the cure in the devil ending
@NormalJinx
@NormalJinx 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't ever play Alien: Isolation then :D
@teneb3385
@teneb3385 5 ай бұрын
😂 I didn't play this route but just watching gameplay made me think that this is made to get you to question your life decisions (and also quite literary for songbird as well)
@NormalJinx
@NormalJinx 5 ай бұрын
Putting myself in the shoes of V after all the things that happened to them at the point in the story.... I almost immediately went to betraying Songbird. Losing Jackie, screwed over by Dex, slowly being taken over by Johnny Silverhand, and she shows up with one final Hail Mary? Too good to be true.
@kadorigami
@kadorigami 4 ай бұрын
The Blackwall sequence when carrying So Mi and decimating the NUSA in attempts to reach the monorail sent shivers down my spine and gave me goosebumps. Such an epic moment in Phantom Liberty I’ll never forget.
@Nejourney78
@Nejourney78 4 ай бұрын
Half life 2 level good.
@serchemach
@serchemach 2 ай бұрын
Reminded me of Assassin's Creed 3 ending
@Username-wj8pz
@Username-wj8pz 2 ай бұрын
shame its so short. it definitely feels like the Reed path is the most polished of the entire dlc
@Retrolian1000
@Retrolian1000 Ай бұрын
It really was a cool and chilling moment. I hope they have more of that in the next game.
@cl4p_tp
@cl4p_tp Ай бұрын
In my Opinion in the Control tower facing the Troops and the Helicopter and use the Blackwall Hack😍
@MisterF0oT
@MisterF0oT 5 ай бұрын
For me the "best" ending is what V would have done in the moment, meaning without any knowledge from other pathes and the future. And then I guess the "best" ending depends on what kind of person you think V is. For me V was always someone who knows they will die and fights with everything they have to find a way to keep living. Songbird is the one person that actually provides V with a concrete plan to save their life, something the NUSA never does. This is why I decided to side with Songbird and go to the spaceport. And then when I was sitting in that final train with Songbird admitting that she betrayed me I noticed that she is the same as V: someone who is dying and fights with everything they have to survive. In that moment she was the only person to ever truly connect with V and the other way around. I believe this connection is the reason she entrusted herself to V in the first place. And I (V) couldn't bring myself to hate her for the betrayal, as I might have done the same thing if it was MY only way out. Yes she might still die, but at least she dies on her own terms, knowing she did everything she could have, and that there is a person out there that actually cared about her.
@eurongreyjoy2
@eurongreyjoy2 5 ай бұрын
Maybe we'll find out in Orion what happens to So Mi on the moon.
@ComradeBread
@ComradeBread 5 ай бұрын
"She is the same as V" That's how I see it, except she doesn't have the freedom to pursue other options. Reed, the one person she might be able to look to for help, sells her out if he has to. And as she is basically a living cyber WMD, Myers isn't about to let her run off and make friends and allies to try to live like V can.
@saadasaad8538
@saadasaad8538 5 ай бұрын
Exactly how i feel also V has no moral high ground to speak from and i love that about this game even when you call out Johnny for the nuke he responds so it's scale you're worried about? You kill just the same as me
@Gamfluent
@Gamfluent 5 ай бұрын
THIS! Idk why people are such pussies when it comes to being betrayed by her , not only is it cyberpunk but it’s also just so human to wanna live and make sacrifices
@t0nkatsu
@t0nkatsu 5 ай бұрын
This, along with there being no guarantee of a cure elsewhere, no guarantee of V even walking away alive from any of it. And on top of that, if things go well for So Mi, there’s a chance she continues looking into a cure for V.
@Dripularstein
@Dripularstein 5 ай бұрын
I really wish we would get 1 or 2 more expansions, but still, Phantom liberty was a huge wave of fresh air for the game compared to its rocky beginning. Hopefully, they'll make Orion exactly like they done sidequests in phantom liberty aswell as the deep hidden connection to the characters and the main story.
@mackielunkey2205
@mackielunkey2205 5 ай бұрын
Same director is gonna do Orion!
@TheCaliforniaHP
@TheCaliforniaHP 5 ай бұрын
same director of the DLC?@@mackielunkey2205
@TheCaliforniaHP
@TheCaliforniaHP 5 ай бұрын
Agreed best part about Phantom Liberty. It felt like Witcher 3 and that's a very good thing.
@h0nza_
@h0nza_ 5 ай бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaHP in what way did it felt like W3 to you?
@eternalmiasma5586
@eternalmiasma5586 4 ай бұрын
They probably had more in mind but they had to spend all the dev time on updates
@Andri474
@Andri474 5 ай бұрын
King of Wands. No way am I sending Songbird to Myers, because she's a mirror to V. They're both near death and both deserve to live, but if even one gets to live, all of this would have been worth it. Also, like some people said, the airport massacre isn't on our conscience, it's on Myers, if she even has one. She's clearly a ruthless tyrant. The only loose end is Mr. Blue Eyes, which right now is way too enigmatic to be sure, but I prefer him to Myers.
@xkalid127
@xkalid127 4 ай бұрын
I agree with the part your said about she's more like V's situation, but the fact is the mr. BE is a loose end is very depressing
@bab1940
@bab1940 4 ай бұрын
@@xkalid127 But as he said we dont know mr Blue Eyes that much, so I hope So Mi is okay in the moon
@xkalid127
@xkalid127 4 ай бұрын
@@bab1940 I’m not optimistic about that😂
@Ecliptor.
@Ecliptor. 3 ай бұрын
She's not the same as V at all. People keep saying this, it's such a shallow comparison. Songbird's tragedy is of her own making.
@gorgeousoutrage5575
@gorgeousoutrage5575 3 ай бұрын
​@@Ecliptor. but V's too. she/he wanted to enter the high league of Night City, took the gig that implied to steal from arasaka. shoud've thought better that messing with such powerful corp would bring consequences
@shymonkey99
@shymonkey99 5 ай бұрын
I genuinely believe the king of cups ending is the best for everyone. It prevents Mr Blue Eyes and Myers getting their hands on So Mi, but also allows So Mi to end things on her own terms. You can never really trust if it's her or the AI in control, she's quite happy to kill anyone standing in her path including many innocent bystanders in the stadium if you side against her. The AI likely has full control of her by the end of the game, and the only true moment she has with you is when she asks you to kill her. Rescueing her results in a massacre, war and a potential rogue AI running free. Handing her to Myers is essentially submitting So Mi to a life of inprisonment and to be used as a weapon.
@benjaminbishop3248
@benjaminbishop3248 5 ай бұрын
Idk how anyone can think helping Reed and Myers can be good. Other than game loot, you are being used by both and then you get everyone else who was used by them killed. The AI's are already out Mr,Blue eyes Delimaine, So Mi is not new she has been using the Blackwall for years. The only right choice is to help someone out cause were all gears in the machine. So Mi betraying us is the nicest betrail in the whole game. The best part is like all the other quests for the cure it ends in failure.
@maxuni6651
@maxuni6651 5 ай бұрын
Its honestly noone wins ending: V: does not get the cure SoMi: never regain her freedom Myres: does not get her walking nuke back (only positive of this ending tbh) Reed: Looses everything and maybe he will do something with it. I feel like giving up So Mi at the airport is better at this point.
@ReaperCet
@ReaperCet 5 ай бұрын
​@@benjaminbishop3248 we wouldn't even have been brought into contact with reed and Myers if so mi hadn't lied to us in the first place. If everyone is using everyone to get what they want, why, from V's perspective, reed and Myers' shadiness be worse than So Mi's? It's night city, no one has clean hands. V is only involved in this because they want to live. Reed actually follows through on his promise to V and V survives. That's the best ending.
@maxuni6651
@maxuni6651 5 ай бұрын
@@VictorYami I agree fuck Myres and she still can get data from her corpse, only sure way to make her not get it is to send SoMi to the Moon.
@VictorYami
@VictorYami 5 ай бұрын
@@maxuni6651 - V getting the cure means giving SoMi as a slave to the NUSA. - SoMi does get her freedom. At that point it was clear that death was the only freedom she had left. - Reed gets a very needed wake up call to stop being the bitch of other people telling him what to believe in (no other ending shakes him up as much as this one). Even though it is not certain that he will act upon this. - Fuck Myers
@amirfazelsadeghi3031
@amirfazelsadeghi3031 5 ай бұрын
I feel like what this game does so good is that any ending you get first is gonna be the best one for you. Amazing writing and immersion at work here
@dynamicphotography_
@dynamicphotography_ 5 ай бұрын
That's interesting. I think that's a pretty good point actually. It's like your personality is involved with the decisions that get you to your first ending.
@amirfazelsadeghi3031
@amirfazelsadeghi3031 5 ай бұрын
@@dynamicphotography_ exactly. The first one feels more natural depending on you and your Vs personality
@johnwaxman555
@johnwaxman555 5 ай бұрын
Not really, no. I did nomad ending first but (Don't) Fear The Ripper is the only one for me.
@Hawkeye83627
@Hawkeye83627 5 ай бұрын
Nahhhh, not really. I got one of the worst ones when I completed vanilla. My second character's ending was the Aldecaldos, and that's my personal "canon" ending for my V's. I mainly play a female V and that's the only one that lets me stay with Judy, so, it's pretty much the only one I can fully enjoy.
@PatrickVu3110
@PatrickVu3110 2 ай бұрын
Agree. I got ending with V broken body, fresh start over, no one beside. Damn really opposite of what Im in real life. Not gonna lie, I play the game with "saving everyone alive" mind. Dunno why the ending I got is just so pitiful.
@a-dezzz
@a-dezzz 5 ай бұрын
I personally feel like the one where you disconnect her from that core and let her pass on is the most "wholesome" I guess I mean we see her memories we talk to her in a good way and we even hug her I just feel like it's just the most positive I guess even if Solomon blames us a bit we kinda make up with him idk that's just my personal outlook
@KJTD
@KJTD 5 ай бұрын
Funny enough, it's the rarest ending to get. Most people let her live and give her to the NUSA
@a-dezzz
@a-dezzz 5 ай бұрын
@@KJTD I personally don't feel like that's good man horrible corporate sceems and all and they'd like abuse her and mess with her mind even more I mean she rather die then go back to the NUSA
@DrBusiness9
@DrBusiness9 5 ай бұрын
The way I see it Reed is already a husk of a man, more of a walking principle than a person, if he has to die in order for Songbird to try and seize whatever opportunity she wants with Kang Tao I’ll kill him everytime
@DrBusiness9
@DrBusiness9 5 ай бұрын
*and even if Reed comes to understand this, I really doubt he’ll ever escape the NUSA’s clutches
@ShadowProject01
@ShadowProject01 5 ай бұрын
I stand by So Mi all the way. I will put her on that rocket everytime. Just can’t bring myself to betray her…even if it results in the most deaths…I mean at this point V is already a mass killer. What’s a few more hundred deaths in my body count 😂
@Spojo1
@Spojo1 5 ай бұрын
I personally feel both endings that unlock the PL ending are worse. I think King of Wands is best and then giving So Mi a merciful death is second best in king of cups. People say So Mi lied to us. But so did Reed. He said he would help So Mi disappear but that never happens in any scenario. His plan in firestarter is a massive fuck up of incompetence and if the game was more flexible I would have it so you can go ahead as normal and then try and persuade Reed/So Mi while escaping. At least that way Alex doesn't die. Myers is a terrorist and Reed is a loyal dog. The NUS is solely responsible for what happens in Killing Moon. So I don't even factor that in as a reason not to help So Mi. It only reinforces that we shouldn't help the NUS in anyway. They should not get So Mi's body and they definitely shouldn't get her back alive. I trust blue eyes more than Myers after everything that happened.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, people are getting really hung up on So Mi lying to V. So Mi lied and is actively having her humanity robbed from her bit by bit rogue AI. Myers lied through her motherfucking TEETH. Reed lied and is a deluded imbecile mindlessly obeying corrupt slime like the NUSA and Myers. The whole damn thing is a bunch of liars, even Johnny warns you about the shit you're getting yourself into. Personally, I chose to free So Mi of this horrific situation. She no longer suffers and V granted her wish, Reed FINALLY realizes he needs to fucking change and bail on NUSA, NUSA/Militech don't get their way with a blackwall weapon, and Myers gets fucked over. Win-Win.
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 5 ай бұрын
Well put
@poakcastle
@poakcastle 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, I never felt responsible for the airport massacre and I am somewhat puzzled that it’s mentioned as an argument to not choose this ending. To me, it shows that Myers would stop at nothing to get what she wants and I felt pretty vindicated from my choice to oppose her. I was really shocked at how cold blooded she was when I realized the NUS was shooting the airport security and civilians and not me. Anyway my corpo V understood the struggle to get away from the corporate overlords and that while So Mi was reckless, she was desperate and nothing she did was enough to escape the iron fist of Myers. Also, V is pretty reckless herself and doesn’t have lessons to give to anyone, considering the heist, the kang tao AV, the kidnapping at the parade and the assault on Mikoshi.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
@@poakcastle Exactly. V's rampage across and around Night City all while pursuing ANY scrap of a chance of curing themselves of the biochip is the type of desperate, reckless flailing someone trying to survive a hideous situation would do.
@DeftestAphid2
@DeftestAphid2 5 ай бұрын
Also if youre not a netrunner, Song's cyberware is debatabley more useful.
@jacksonwilliams5399
@jacksonwilliams5399 5 ай бұрын
I really like hearing everyone’s rationale for the choices they made to get to the ending, I did the king of cups ending. And I gotta say, that whole path up to that final choice was the most terrifying, heart wrenching stories I’ve ever played. I haven’t played a game that has ever made me fell this way. But I granted her request because A. If she’s right about her fate, that’s arguable the worst fate for her. B. She likely wouldn’t get better. C. Even if she got better, Meyers would never let her be free. D. Even if she did, the risk to Blackwell is too great. At least if she’s dead, the NUSA’s tampering is delayed. But even though king of cups is my favorite ending, all the others are so well written.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
Seriously, the nuance and themes to the endings are incredibly well written.
@nathanielpetrick8209
@nathanielpetrick8209 5 ай бұрын
To me the king of swords phantom liberty ending actually makes the most sense if you have a positive/agreeing relationship with Johnny and just want to find the cure for your self. You deal the most damage to the NUSA and then flip the finger to Songbird for stringing you along the whole time. I went this route with my main character and also denied any help from the NUSA so I can do the Fear the Reaper ending and storm Arasaka at the end. The Corps and the government can get lost.
@ReaperCet
@ReaperCet 5 ай бұрын
I also think the cure ending is the best, but only if you're pretty much done with the game. Feels like a real retirement.
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 5 ай бұрын
As it should be. So Mi fucked around, now she gets to find out. What So Mi did to V is the equivalent of conning someone you know has a rare disease into paying for an "experimental treatment" that you 100% know 1) will not work and 2) will only inflate _your_ bank balance. V owes So Mi nothing.
@SalandVin99956
@SalandVin99956 3 ай бұрын
Agree, although a lot of people are dead, main characters are allowed to live and possibly correct their errors, while keeping V’s word.
@dynamicphotography_
@dynamicphotography_ 5 ай бұрын
I love that we can't agree on what the best outcome is, or the worst outcome, and everything in between. It's so gray. It's so interesting. It would be cool if this concept came up more often in media.
@droe2570
@droe2570 5 ай бұрын
Eh, all the outcomes are bad, and all the characters are evil, so it doesn't really matter. In the end, the AI rogues are going to show up so the outcomes are all irrelevant.
@CorelUser
@CorelUser 3 ай бұрын
this specific kind of multiple ending thing that can only happen in videogames, is a quality of this media that should be used more
@dremndishot2695
@dremndishot2695 Ай бұрын
@@droe2570 If that's all that you got from the story and nothing deeper then I feel sorry for you
@DontUtrustMe
@DontUtrustMe Ай бұрын
@@dremndishot2695 Nah,he is actually right. Technically Reed are "lawful stoopid",but the only difference of this characters from "evil" ones is how they reason things for themselves,results are the same. While Myers and Songbird are basically the same character,just in diff positions. tl dr: If they do what they think is wrong,they will play a victim card and will continue doing it.
@stefisundays
@stefisundays 5 ай бұрын
I betrayed So Mi solely because of the fact her plan was to “go off the grid and get a ripperdoc to cure us somewhere” I was like girlie that’s not a plan. And then she goes completely cyberpsycho and has the audacity to say: the deaths of all this people are on your hands. Uhm no they are not. Also the entire scary robot scene she keeps saying “I trusted you! The only person I trusted”, like, why? The only thing I know about you is that you love Brooklyn. Also I didn’t kill her because in the base game Johnny and Alt go to the blackwall so I kept thinking “eh, it can’t be that bad”. My shock face when I learned she straight up tells you she was never going to help you in the other endings lmao
@rodrigod2281
@rodrigod2281 4 ай бұрын
I wish i betrayed her since the begining u-u
@user-wo6fs5hd5m
@user-wo6fs5hd5m 3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for songbird, but she deceived us from beginning to end. That's why I got the medicine for which I came to dogtown, because V just wanted to survive.
@esziis
@esziis 3 ай бұрын
​​@@user-wo6fs5hd5m Everyone has his own perception of V. My V wanted to survive through the help of Songbird, so obviously I sided with So mi and not Reed. When the scene in the train after the dark wall killing event happened, when she said it was only for 1 person and begged us to let her survive. I was just like, damn she's like us, just like us, like V. I can't sacrifice her, that would betray my V, myself. Then I killed Reed without any doubt when I shooted him. Songbird deserved to live, like V.
@theworldclown
@theworldclown 3 ай бұрын
Same. So Mi approached V out of the blue, messed around with V's relic, gave them an important offer which turned out was just a lie. She lied to V during the whole first part so I couldn't bring myself to trust her at that point. The Brooklyn part was touching but the timing felt manipulative. Also yeah, her plan is not a plan at all, and the way she act just remind me of a teenage girl who yearn for a "freedom" she knows nothing about. Granted, once I knew of her suffering, I honoured the girl wish to die. Kill off the chance for me to get a cure but fuck it, if someone else has to suffer for eternity for my sake then I dont want it. Also, seeing later how Myers "the president" is a real prick, I am glad I didn't give her the last laugh.
@KillerHammerFIN
@KillerHammerFIN 3 ай бұрын
It's implied that Songbird has Avoidant Personality Disorder or AvPD underneath all that emotional and physical abuse she experienced at FIA. Now obviously I'm no psychiatrist but respected sources do tell me that people with AvPD fear the most that a person rejects them so by betraying her at the lab the player causes her worst fear to happen and because of that inner turmoil the AI (that she constantly has to fight) was able to take more control hence the voice and eye color changes. When you don't betray her only her eyes change color. During somewhat damaged she asks those things because you the player were supposed to understand her fight to live. V most likely was the only person she has opened up to even the little amount she did since start at FIA.
@Zzues
@Zzues 5 ай бұрын
I really liked the King of Wands ending because I feel like it gives hope to some potentially awesome storylines in the future. I really want to know more about the rogue AI's out there and especially the ones So Mi has touched. If she is on the moon with Mr. Blue Eyes, what the heck is his plan? There could be some incredible stories along these lines.
@ignatius2510
@ignatius2510 5 ай бұрын
I went into PL spoiler-free and chose to side with So Mi out of my spite toward Myers. I felt a bit empty after the plot twist on the train but still sent her to the moon. After that I revisited PL with my second character and sided with Reed. I am actually surprised how many information of So Mi was given in somewhat broken but not in the killing moon. It felt like CDPR was trying to make players empathizing So Mi if we choose to f her over, and make us feel betrayed in killing moon so that we would be motivated to play the other route (props to the devs). But let’s be honest, none of the route has positive influence on V’s fate (story wise). The tower ending in my opinion is on par with the devil, especially if you are play with the “don’t fear the reaper” character (the speech Johnny gave was 😢).
@Ambience-10
@Ambience-10 5 ай бұрын
As for the new ending, exclusive to PL, it’s hard to even say which ending is worse: “Devil” or “Tower”. V lost everything (just like in the “Devil” ending). In the "tower" ending, I personally had doubts about V's prospects for survival. Will he be able to fully recover after the operation (he literally can barely move)? If not, then his life is doomed to exist in the form of a weak person, and Night City does not spare the weak... Yes, the only way for V to survive is to become a fixer, and technically he will be able to do this thanks to his reputation, but will he succeed This? The issue is controversial for me personally, especially given the warnings of Rogue Amendiares. On the other hand, in the “Devil” ending, V has a ghostly hope of returning in a normal healthy body in the future, but the only question is when (moreover, V most likely will have, in principle, no connections with people in Night City, and no friends )? It is possible that Arasaka is not lying to V and they will indeed provide him with a new body in the future. Arasaka can literally force V’s personality to be digitized, but they release him if he refuses to digitize his personality, which is evidence in their favor. If there were real guarantees that V would receive a body in the future, then the “Devil” ending would definitely be better than the “Tower” ending - V in both cases loses friends and property, but in the first case he will at least have a healthy body, and with him prospects. The problem is that there are no such guarantees, so I believe that “Devil” and “Tower” are on the same level. Although the Tower ending made an even more depressing impression on me, perhaps due to the fact that it is longer and it clearly shows how weak and uninteresting to anyone (except for Victor, Misty and a couple of others) V has become.
@sithmaster4305
@sithmaster4305 2 ай бұрын
Disagree about tower v gets his quiet life and a chance to rebuild However they want. It's a brand new life even if his legend fades he still lives on with new friends or a new job at least
@AlineaEuros
@AlineaEuros Ай бұрын
In the Tower ending while V loses his old life, Arasaka still gets taken down by Yorinobu and Goro also sees the problem with Arasaka if you saved him, and V accomplishes was he was doing for the whole game... Survive however youre now a nobody, no one is remembering you, and you wont have the power to become a legend no more. You live a long quiet life and will die quietly. Its not a bad ending for V id argue its far better than the Devil ending because you help Arasaka keep its grip on the world and you dont even get to survive.
@etherealdreamerart
@etherealdreamerart 5 ай бұрын
I chose The King of Cups ending first because I saw her memories and granted her wish. Sending her back to NUSA was unacceptable after I uncovered Myers lies with my intuition and Reed thankfully had an ephinany to leave FIA/NUSA knowing his belief in the cause was shaken and deep down, he knew they were corrupt.
@koklusz89
@koklusz89 5 ай бұрын
King of Cups is the most fitting ending to the PL story, IMO. Nobody gets what they wanted, but everyone gets what they deserve.
@cantu7214
@cantu7214 5 ай бұрын
@@koklusz89damn that hits hard
@etherealdreamerart
@etherealdreamerart 5 ай бұрын
@@koklusz89 I agree very much.
@AaronTats
@AaronTats 5 ай бұрын
@@koklusz89perfect way to put it
@Strutsss
@Strutsss 4 ай бұрын
He always knew they were corrupt, they left him for dead years ago. He just couldn't accept that his employer would do such a thing and thought that if he was loyal enough, they would forgive him - of course, in the end that is all gone as Myers said. V points it out as much in the Moon ending.
@Vegas8X
@Vegas8X 5 ай бұрын
My take on King of Swords (Long read, TLDR at bottom): This is the ending I got on my first playthrough of PL. Now, if we are looking at it through a gaming/loot lens, we get jack shit in this ending, no question. But I want to break it down narratively, at least from my perspective at the time. I went into PL completely blind, no spoilers or anything, and I want to say that it really makes sense for V in the way the story transpires. How? Well, firstly we are introduced to Reed, Alex and So Mi who are all in a dire situation from the get go, all topped off with the promise of a cure. Early on I realized that there was sketchy behavior on both sides (So Mi betraying Reed in the past, and Reed and Alex executing the twins) but in my mind V was going through all of the obstacles in Dogtown for one thing, that cure Songbird promised. Clock was ticking and it was our best shot (I finished the game at launch but wanted to play PL as if I didn't know about future events). Fast-forward to So Mi opening up on the balcony and she seemed completely genuine, after which I was pretty sure that I wasn't going to 100% go with Reed's plan of betraying her since I saw that she really didn't want to go back to Myers. It's important to note that at this point I'm already invested in all of the character's stories and have really grown fond of them, meaning that whatever happens I don't want to get anyone killed. Fast-forward some more and there I am giving Alex the thumbs up to slice Hansen to ribbons. Escape with So Mi doesn't go smooth at all like I hoped but I thought "fuck it", in too deep already and I'm leaving with the cure one way or another. Then it happened, on the train ride to the shuttle So Mi drops the bomb that we have been had all along. Now, this part sort of fucked me up because obviously given her past I thought she might betray me but I had hoped that after her opening up and V being her only hope that she would at least help a brother out. I was still considering letting her fly up there but when Reed walked out, I just couldn't do it, I couldn't end this man's life over someone who I didn't trust anymore and most of all is a walking WMD on a trajectory to the Moon to meet with the AI gods. I realized that I might have made a mistake trusting her and going through with her plan, but it was too late, the damage was done. It was then I decided that it was enough, I had done horrible things, been betrayed, and put into countless horrible situations in the span of a couple of days. I put Songbird down and let Reed have her, hoping that after everything he would at least try to look after her. I even refused the damn cure, wanted nothing to do with it, I just wanted to be out of that situation. Decided that Panam's ending is still better off than dealing with shit this heavy. Silver lining though, talked to Reed afterwards and he seemed to have a new outlook. Got a post card from Monte Carlo from Alex too, which means she got her wish. Not being hunted by the FIA either so Myers can eat dirt. And Songbird... it sucks but at least she isn't dead. She might have to serve but being alive means the possibility of escaping in the future, maybe even with Reed's help seeing that he is having a change of heart. And last but not least, let's not forget that humanity's greatest threat is still tucked away beyond the Blackwall, at least for now... TLDR: Got played, commited war crimes and after countless horrors just had enough and even gave up on the cure. But at least everyone I met along the way lived to see another day. No war and no helping AI overlords to world domination.
@piotrgorostiza2332
@piotrgorostiza2332 5 ай бұрын
my experience was very similar. i kinda think this ending is the most dramatic one possible and still not as bad as it is portrayed in the video
@dzramen
@dzramen 4 ай бұрын
And the thing is that you can still get the cure in the end. Gameplay wise it doesn't matter, because getting the cure kind of ends the game, but putting yourself into V's shoes, accepting an offer from NUSA sounds much better than accepting Hanako's offer (in both cases you get an offer from a corp/government, but in Arasaka's case the offer is conditional and you did steal their most valuable tech after all), and the other options of invading the Arasaka HQ are basically suicide missions that you can only beat, because its a video game and you can reload to previous save when you die. Without the benefit of hindsight on my first playthrough, I did go with this path, but I would add that betraying Reed at first isn't just about Reed vs Songbird and also about the massive overconfidence in the plan of just using software to beat Songbird, who is shown to be uniquely the most capable netrunner in the FIA doing dangerous things with the Blackwall on multiple occasions and coming out alive. Slider got literally fried in his full setup while Songbird can communicate with you via Blackwall while walking and talking with Hansen. Its clear that Songbird is hiding something, so just logically thinking its not a great idea to go against her without a foolproof way of incapacitating her when moments before the decision she tells you that killing a bunch of random people to survive is perfectly fine (and well, thats in addition to nearly killing the president).
@kkblaze312
@kkblaze312 4 ай бұрын
I am 100 pct with you. Joined song for the cure Never had any intentions to let her down but....the train ride? and finding out it was for Mr Blue, especially if u watch the epilogue calls from Peralez in the end . Myers cant be worse than Blue Eyes he's on some other shit. Reed also deserved some redemption cuz ina way he's just like just another person whose life got flipped upside down for helping So Mi, like Johnny says she's got the worst fucking luckj in the world but he can't blame her for trying to fly close to the sun
@dizzpenzerr5367
@dizzpenzerr5367 5 ай бұрын
I like how if you go for King of Swords, Johnny tells us how much bad luck So Mi has and if we go for King of Wands, he instead tells us how much good luck she has. I think she generally has just great luck, she attracts both the good and bad kind easily. Nothing she planned throughout the expanssion ever goes the way she wants it to and her fate is usually left up to a strong outside force like V.
@Jordinho99
@Jordinho99 3 ай бұрын
As Reed says "As a chess player, she'd be famous for dazzling plays and excruciatingly beautiful defeats."
@TheKrilliys
@TheKrilliys 5 ай бұрын
I went with the king of swords, simply for the roleplay reasons. My V is cold and rational with their only real concern being survival. Every time the game gave me the option to say something in line of "I don't care what to do if it means I survive", i went with it and was upfront about it with everybody involved, so when So Mi told me she couldnt help my case, while Reed could - the choice was obvious.
@jokewhygaming4173
@jokewhygaming4173 4 ай бұрын
I went in spoiler free and ended with the king of swords ending cuz I simply didn’t wanna die. Her fault for telling the truth at the end.
@ST-or1ce
@ST-or1ce 4 ай бұрын
@@jokewhygaming4173Yh exactly, the betrayal was fresh in my mind
@cap_holzter8114
@cap_holzter8114 3 ай бұрын
I also did King of Swords, and intended on going down that route because it is truly the only one where everyone lives, especially Alex and Reed both. The two of them don't survive together in any other ending, and I wanted them to live. I also didn't want to off So Mi, but I do recognize that I may as well have killed her by giving her up to the NUSA. Also this got me the Tower ending
@davideberhardt6150
@davideberhardt6150 Ай бұрын
Love reading everyone's roleplaying ideas for their specific V. My V is impulsive and a decent Silverhand pupil. If we can piss on some Corpo's leg, we will ... never mind the consequences. It's CyberPUNK after all, self-destruction included. 😄
@piotrgorostiza2332
@piotrgorostiza2332 5 ай бұрын
I've had the king of swords ending and honestly i would not change that. Maybe it was bad for Songbird, but man after that backstab she deserved that. This also fits well into the phantom liberty vibe cause V realizes that he had been betrayed and changes sides at the end in this intrigue game. Also Alex and Reed survived and i kinda liked them even after betrying.
@UzairTheTuber
@UzairTheTuber 4 ай бұрын
Yea exactly, what this vid unfortunately fails to address is the fact V ultimately wants to survive. The DLC started on the premise Songbird was going to help V find a cure. Songbirds betrayal stung.
@kirkginoabolafia3650
@kirkginoabolafia3650 5 ай бұрын
I got the King of Pentacles (surgery) ending and every single moment of that DLC surpassed my already-high expectations of this masterpiece of a game. I mean, the Kurt Hansen and MaxTac boss fights were just spectacular. Then the creepy ambiance and sheer terror I felt in "Somewhat Damaged' was so unexpected but fun. And then the new surgery ending of the game was just so poignant to me-- the message shows me that even if you experience some sort of physical or mental disability, not all of your doors are closed in life and there's always a new path to walk. I like to think after that ending, V becomes a fixer themselves and uses their NC knowledge to guide the next generation of mercs. Just a spectacular game.
@gamblerfls
@gamblerfls 5 ай бұрын
No, V doesn't become a fixer. V becomes friendless, alone, powerless, hated, and will die to a random psycho in the next corner because they made thousands of enemies and they're weaker than any NPC. CDPR exaggerated too much on the drawbacks of the cure ending. V doesn't even get to stay with their lover. No thanks.
@kirkginoabolafia3650
@kirkginoabolafia3650 5 ай бұрын
How do you know? V literally says in a dialogue option that they want to become a fixer in NC. Not to mention if you look closely at the very last few seconds of the ending cinematic, V is smiling as they walk away. CDPR made this ending an open book, sure, but I think you are ignoring a few of the things they very clearly showed here. V's going to be OK. Just my thoughts @@gamblerfls
@Elnotronic
@Elnotronic 5 ай бұрын
i also love the ending where v looses everything. power and strenght are meaningless. also getting shit on by a random looser feels so satisfying, since you have a lot of nc knowledge
@SonOfHubris
@SonOfHubris 2 ай бұрын
​@@gamblerflsu realize thats not permanent right, ure friendless and alone at the moment, and ud sure as shit be friendless and alone in death
@Sarc0n
@Sarc0n 5 ай бұрын
My ending was the king of cups and I'm super satisfied by it. My V (a female ex corpo netrunner holding a bit of empathy) tried everything to actually resolve the situation with the minimum number of casualties and siding with So Mi wasn't an option, Reed was genuinely honest saying he would have taken her far away from Myers after her rescue but things degenerated drastically after the choice, the death of Alex was a tragic accident (My V couldn't predict what would happen after the use of the ICE-breaker) and Reed had to swap back to the original plan giving So Mi to Myers. After discovering more about the Cynosure project, So Mi's memories and the real danger of the rogue AI to the human race my V decided in an act of both mercy towards Songbird and caring for the fate of the world to end So Mi's life even though this would lead to the lost of the only opportunity to save V's life. Giving Songbird back to the NUSA alive, allowing them to secretly keep going beyond the Blackwall, was a real danger and the game wasn't worth it. The overall experience with Songbird changed drastically my V, even though she has now the means to unleash the power of the blackwall thanks to the Erebus or the Militech Canto Mk.6 she decided to be a kind of guardian of the blackwall refusing to use such power, also going against the NUSA in the end kind made her closer to Johnny's view of the world. V will eventually find her "solution" someway inside the Mikoshi. The final conversation wit Reed also gave V the chance to plant the seed of doubt regarding his relationship with the NUSA
@AntisepticHandwash
@AntisepticHandwash 5 ай бұрын
I fucking love Sam Bram Cyberpunk 2077 videos. They're so comprehensive and have such a professionalism about them. My go-to channel for any covered Cyberpunk topic.
@overryans
@overryans 5 ай бұрын
anyone who thinks the king of pentacles ending is bad let their mistrust of large groups blind them. NUSA fulfilled their promise and helped you Somi would have never helped. you get too survive and not die in your late 20's the only gripe I had was that there was no option too say too anyone before calling Reed 'Hey, I'm about to go through a risky procedure that could save my life. I might be gone for a while, but I'll call when I can' or anything, no wonder all of them moved on.
@ReaperCet
@ReaperCet 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, they just didn't want that ending to be a clear W. But honestly, you only knew those people for a few weeks. The relationships seem deeper to us than they actually were.
@powerneed1023
@powerneed1023 5 ай бұрын
lets be honest v made way to many enemies to be without his implants and no one else is around to help him he is likely gonna be murdered in a couple months
@homicidalgeorge
@homicidalgeorge 5 ай бұрын
@@powerneed1023 i doubt that. in the end credits rogue says people in the afterlife talk about v in the afterlife so in all likelihood v already has enough money to live comfortably and still has enough street cred so they could be a fixer or something. reed also offered v a job to work at langley so their situation isn't so bad they just have to learn how to live like a normal person instead of a walking weapon of mass destruction
@MrBlueWaooWaoo
@MrBlueWaooWaoo 5 ай бұрын
Idk man The NUSA isn't a squeaky clean organization. They more or less forced So Mi to join up with them, kill people, kill her best friend, breach the blackwall and destroy her mind and body, and then use her after she's begged to just be let go- to die. And presumably, they have a similar recruitment structure for many others. There's a lot more you could get into about what's wrong with the NUSA- but I think that this pretty much sums it up. A major organization that does *this* to people? Forces them into service at their lowest, and then strips them of everything they were- makes them a killer, sends them to do act unimaginably cruel and dangerous? It's not a body that I think can be trusted, or should have the power it does and could with songbird.
@blm50881
@blm50881 2 ай бұрын
King of wands is the best ending for me. It has 2 very important lessons for V. 1. The likelihood of being betrayed is much higher than not. 2. Beware of someone with unshakeable loyalty to the Corp/country (Takemura & Hanako). Reed deserves to die for his loyalty to something that deserves none. It's a good warning against the devil ending. After experiencing that, no one would trust Arasaka at the end. My V put her on that space ship to prove a point. That V is is not a low life betrayer and user that only cares about themselves like most ppl in cyberpunk. When she takes on a job she finishes it.. sees it through to the end.
@JPkerVideo
@JPkerVideo 4 ай бұрын
What I love about this game... you either choose a sad ending, or you choose a sad ending, with the only good, hopeful endings being Panam/Judy nomad escape.
@jancorykheer1592
@jancorykheer1592 4 ай бұрын
I have to say I am quite glad I saved smartly so that I can experience all the different endings. Overall all of them are amazing to play en so tough to decide which one is the best. All of them have consequences but that makes it even more amazing. Showing you that you have to choose what fits you bests. All in all just a breathtaking expansions. Another thing, finishing the DLC and having that credit scene with that amazing song just gives me chills. Love it.
@iainkilcar7463
@iainkilcar7463 5 ай бұрын
I think the cure ending is supposed to show that even though they're not as bad as arasaka the nusa is still at it's heart a cooperation and working with them will leave you feeling somewhat hollow by the end.
@crazy-tommy
@crazy-tommy 5 ай бұрын
For me the best is King of Wands. So Mi is finally free, Alex survives and we have a nice goodbye and you can dodge this annoying spider mission. Only Reed doesn't make it, but he is so selfish and stubborn that its his own fault. He actually fully lost my trust after he texted me that he has "taken care" of the two goons that helped protect the president ... you fully understand what this means after he casually kills the redheads.
@austinbond2527
@austinbond2527 Ай бұрын
Bingo
@clayheinzerling1852
@clayheinzerling1852 5 ай бұрын
Sam just pumping these out. Well done dude
@SamBram
@SamBram 5 ай бұрын
Got plenty more where this came from. Main endings ranked soon
@poakcastle
@poakcastle 5 ай бұрын
Don’t know if you had seen this, but in the king of wands ending Alex eventually deserted in my playthrough, leaving a postcard from another country I don’t recall. The postcard was left at the original appartement a week or two after meeting her last. I did give her the coin so she could fake V’s death to her superiors, don’t know if that matters.
@Hydra_X9K_Music
@Hydra_X9K_Music 5 ай бұрын
Monte Carlo
@TheOriginalPoon
@TheOriginalPoon 4 ай бұрын
Alex doesn’t desert, Meyers holds her end of the bargain and gives her a permanent diplomatic assignment (read; retirement) in Monte Carlo Which is exactly what Alex always wanted, she gets a true happy ending
@poakcastle
@poakcastle 4 ай бұрын
@@TheOriginalPoon Well that’s true if you give up Songbird at the spaceport. If Songbird escapes, Alex receives the assignment to assassinate you. When you meet her after the ending, she tells you that she intends to wait for your soonish death instead of risking going after you. However, she sends you a postcard not too long after that when you are still very much alive. I’m pretty sure that qualifies as going AWOL. I don’t think Myers would be satisfied with waiting for the Relic to kill V, she wants Alex to kill you ASAP.
@kenn5959
@kenn5959 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved the soundrack during the decision of Songbird's fate in Phantom Liberty. That track was so hauntingly beautiful.
@ZwipeAir
@ZwipeAir 2 ай бұрын
Got the same shivering feeling as when Maine gone cyber psycho in edgerunners.
@sethchakoy1511
@sethchakoy1511 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video! 🔥😎
@Greyhun
@Greyhun 5 ай бұрын
Incredible video. Thanks ;)
@unit2a766
@unit2a766 4 ай бұрын
The best enging is the one which brings the most harm to US govt
@foxfire7
@foxfire7 5 ай бұрын
I like sending her to the moon the best. Because on a personal level for V it's the one that gels the most with the personal ideals. I also like that this is the ending where the world gets shaken the most by the immediate consequences, it's a chance to alter the status quo. Just siding with Reed and giving So Mi up to the NUSA just feels very similar to the Devil's ending in terms of just siding with the Corps. I do like the path you play through here though, but I prefer ending it by granting So Mi's request instead. Turning her to Reed after going through Killing Moon just feels worse than her betraying me. I don't like that ending, even if So Mi deserves it. I like sending her to the moon with V bitching at her all the way though, that's a good compromise.
@thundereagle4130
@thundereagle4130 5 ай бұрын
By giving Songbird to Mr Blue Eyes who will abuse her skill one way or another and cause countless deaths at the spaceport. Siding with Reed and giving her to NUSA at least won't cause countless deaths.
@FanGier3322333
@FanGier3322333 5 ай бұрын
​@@thundereagle4130i wouldnt even know what to start with if i wanted to explain to you how wrong you are.
@madphantompixels6478
@madphantompixels6478 5 ай бұрын
@@thundereagle4130 Throughout history millions if not billions of people have died in wars/genocides started by the governments of countries. A number of tragic deaths at the airport is almost certainly the lesser of two evils. An evil which is essentially also perpetrated by the NUSA.
@henryviiifake8244
@henryviiifake8244 5 ай бұрын
Huh? So Mi hijacks the Relic to force V to help her, stringing along V - who she KNOWS is being slowly and painfully killed by the Relic - with the hope of a cure to their situation, knowing _full damn well V will get NOTHING out of it!_ 😂 There is ZERO reason for V to be merciful to So Mi other than the player having the patience of a saint. You can argue V deserves their situation due to accept if the job fro. Evelyn, but So Mi objectively coerced V. There's no arguing that.
@thundereagle4130
@thundereagle4130 5 ай бұрын
@@FanGier3322333 There is no need to, I made the correct choice anyway. And honestly I don't really have the energy to debate people who just simp for her, but think have some decent arguments. If So Mi was a dude, people would agree with me.
@30CZEchpoint
@30CZEchpoint 5 ай бұрын
Hi Sam, another banger video. Keep them coming. My favorite is OFC sending her to the moon and hoping she meets with Lucy and they create a support group for kids being forcefully sent beyond black wall lol.
@hyperturbotechnomike
@hyperturbotechnomike 5 ай бұрын
I often like to play a more chaotic and selfish character and i liked the king of swords ending the most. The spaceport battle was pure chaos and fun to play. Explosions and bullets everywhere. V's main goal is to be remembered after his death and after this ending, combining it with the "hidden" arasaka solo base game ending, he certainly will get remembered similar to johnny. I wonder, if the next Cyberpunk game will be able to read the save data of 2077 and based on the ending changes it a little bit. //edited for minor typo correction
@teneb3385
@teneb3385 5 ай бұрын
I wish in the king of wands ending when she tells us about the neural matrix, there was a dialogue option like "I had my suspicions" or "I expected something like this" or something. Given shit V has gone through and my character having the corpo life path, he should have expected this. I find it hard to believe that V didn't have any doubts about Songbird. He sounded pretty surprised like he completely believed her. Because Song was pretty sus for me after we put it together after the party. She got even more suspicious with the way she behaves in the conversation in the place that reminds her of home. If you stay serious and dead honest in that conversion it's pretty apparent she is trying to sweet talk us and her desperation just shows. She really want her plan to work. That "would have helped anyway" line by V was exactly what I was doing all along. And thought he knew as well, helping despite his doubts.
@sebastjankrek1744
@sebastjankrek1744 Ай бұрын
It's funny, my V told Song in the end of the sweet talking scene that he just wants to survive... But in my mind he didn't fully mean it. It was more like, I'm trying to survive just like you, and I got your back anyways.
@Yacovo
@Yacovo 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@wolvAUS
@wolvAUS 5 ай бұрын
Songbird moon ending + The Star ending is absolutely perfect for me.
@XTINGAX
@XTINGAX 3 ай бұрын
moon ending + panam ending
@YouTubeOnly-bj6yk
@YouTubeOnly-bj6yk Ай бұрын
@@XTINGAXYESSS! V and Panam and the rest of the aldacados leaving night city is literally the best ending for the Original story.
@doobeyboob8695
@doobeyboob8695 5 ай бұрын
I'm curious what your thoughts are on the code name for the next cyberpunk and what that could mean. Orions belt is a constellation of stars that occupy the centauri system. Maybe I'm looking too far into it a little too soon, but this could imply that MBE appearances are foreshadowing what's to come
@SinRayquaza
@SinRayquaza 5 ай бұрын
On the path you side with So Mi. You can only get Hansen's LMG and handgun, its because Alex took it to end him with it. That why when you go loot his body, the knife is missing. Which is great attention to details
@pjc6387
@pjc6387 4 ай бұрын
Phantom liberty is just great, cdprojeckt really nailed it. Would have loved to see you include the secret ending where you walk away after accepting the first mission even if it entails not playing through the dlc which i dont recomen but still really nice vid!!
@indiexanna
@indiexanna 5 ай бұрын
My first ending is King of Wands and I will stand by it as the best ending : Myers got f-ed and will no longer be able to order So Mi and Reed around, Reed unfortunately died but that's part of the consequences he has to face when you're blindly following orders from Myers, Alex got to leave NC to somewhere better for her, and So Mi got her wish granted. Mr Blue Eyes is pleased with the result. Now we don't know what does he really want but if the theory that he's a human avatar for rogue AIs, then I think it would be beneficial for us to side with him as by the end of the Cyberpunk ending V will have a lot of allies from the blackwall : - We already have Alt helping us from the Blackwall - If you decided to live on in the ending, Johnny will get absorbed by the Blackwall. There's a chance that this could affect how the Blackwall behaves towards V - Assuming So Mi did not survive the moon and ended up getting absorbed by the Blackwall anyway, there's a chance that this will also affect how the Blackwall behaves towards V - Everyone at Mikoshi will remember V as their liberator as they get absorbed by the Blackwall, there's a chance that this will also affect how the Blackwall behaves towards V And who knows whether V ended up dying after the original ending, we already saw that there's a solution that can keep V alive for as long as at least 2 years. Maybe Mr Blue eyes will offer to help V at one point as now they understand that in order to "control" Night City, the "Children of the Net" won't be enough and there has to be a human element in play.
@glockmat
@glockmat 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, I went with King of Swords because I was so fucking tyred of callousness, like in the Stadium she straight admits that dozens of innocents will die, her reaction "They will die so can survive" this alone almost made side with Reed, but them after all of that, and the fucking Airport Shootout that, no joke, took me more than an hour, she just goes: "Oh, BTW, betrayed you too, I can't cure us both". Cant or wont? Because as you told 100 times, the AI will follow any order you tell it to, you CAN cure us both, you just wont, guess I'd be a loose end. Also I love Alex, so just having the possibility that she survived is enough for me, ish
@SidheKnight
@SidheKnight 3 ай бұрын
Bizarrely, your worst PL ending is my first (and best) ending: - Reed survives - Alex survives - Songbird survives (albeit living a sad, horrible life as an NUSA prisoner, but if your "proxy for blackwall AIs on the moon" theory is correct, that might be even worse) - V has the option to undergo neural matrix treatment (probably won't take it, but still) - Myers.. idk what happens to her, but I assume she's forgiven V since he surrendered Songbird in the end, or at least, doesn't put a hit on him/her.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 ай бұрын
Songbird telling us she betrayed us at the last minute makes me turn her over to Reed without regrets.
@antont4974
@antont4974 5 ай бұрын
I do like the 2nd ending, I feel like it has good character arcs and gameplay direction. Reed's convo after the events is probably the best in the whole dlc and game
@AraiiarA
@AraiiarA 5 ай бұрын
Sending Song to the moon and then choosing the Sun ending is my favorite combo. Pure Mr. Blue Eyes power moves. It's super intriguing to think what he's playing at.
@maskedman5657
@maskedman5657 5 ай бұрын
The "Cure" ending in my opinion is still one imo very slept on. It's probably one of the more sadder endings in the game considering how much you lose in the end. But I think that's kinda the point. I think the game is supposed to show you that despite all odds and how dire the situation comes for V he/she can find a purpose outside of being a Merc. You lost most of your friends but you can still technically contact Misty and V. Don't get me wrong the ending has A LOT of problems and I think the writing suffers on this one alot. Panam completely abandoning you is sooo out of character and Rogue not wanting you to go back to the afterlife is just cruel.
@uzan6893
@uzan6893 5 ай бұрын
Rogue idea was let your legend live on, because people will belittle V if they continuously see what happened and everything l He/she achieved will be for nothing.
@TheCakeIsNotLie
@TheCakeIsNotLie 5 ай бұрын
It works perfectly for a Corpo V
@Cyanbuns
@Cyanbuns 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the ending too, but is it a 'good' ending for V tho? We've played through the game seeing random people from every facet of life get stomped on, except for the edgerunners and high up corpos. Today, V gets pushed down the stairs, tomorrow, it's her getting splatted on a sidewalk from a gang drive-by. V survived, but her feats didn't really earn her anything. Overall I thought they wanted to emphasize that the 'peaceful life' Dex was going on about doesnt really exist in NC
@FireCrestGaming
@FireCrestGaming 5 ай бұрын
I remember doing my initial playthrough I saved So Mi and killed Reed then after I went back to experience the final phantom liberty ending it just left me with a sinking feeling in my gut especially when Johnny had the line of eventually people will betray themselves it just felt wrong. On the other side siding with Reed from the beginning while not feeling 100% right it probably took me on the biggest emotional roller coaster through all the missions and events that occurred plus mercy killing So Mi while a horrid thing to do at least she wasn’t a slave to the NUSA anymore, this game and expansion was just so good I can’t get enough
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 5 ай бұрын
Yeah because it's totally safe to hand over a wmd to Myers
@TheAnon26
@TheAnon26 5 ай бұрын
Did King of Swords. Mostly cause Songbird did feel like the better ally for most of the quest, buuuuut... Then Songbird tells V she basically duped them. That kind of betrayal made giving her up in return for getting to live the most satisfying end for me. It was a very cyberpunk ending - you struggle, and its all for nought in the end.
@tonytonyjoe65
@tonytonyjoe65 5 ай бұрын
These views of yours are very helpful. But in the next videos could you make your opinions right away about what are the best weapons (for example: best assault rifles, best smg, best sniper rifles, etc.)? Because after patch 2.0 brand new weapons have been added in cyberpunk, and also certain stats and things in general have been changed. Could you please do that? 😁
@avm2017
@avm2017 5 ай бұрын
I replayed each ending three times, depending on who I was in the past. For me, the best of all is: 1 place) The King of Cups (StreetKid), 2 place) The King of Swords, where we refuse help from the FIA and NUSA (Corpo) 3) The King of Wands (Nomad) 4) The King of Pentkals is the worst of all. Blindly go to save your life, without analyzing the consequences and without looking at yourself and your strength, intuition and advice from our friends to overcome the hopeless feeling of coming death, by accepting a mission from a government whose leader has more sins than us and he uses all his subordinates, just like us. That's my opinion. Someone else's is different. But this opinion of the author of the video is also good, in his view.
@RodgerSkelton
@RodgerSkelton 5 ай бұрын
King of Wands is perfect to me, Myers loses her neutered dogs.
@killmonger5097
@killmonger5097 5 ай бұрын
She has plenty of dogs left that was just a bump in the road for her
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. She lost a massive military asst (let's be fair, Myers does NOT see So Mi as human) and Reed (an extremely skilled agent). Fucking over Myers and Militech/NUSA is a net good.
@Maple_Cadian
@Maple_Cadian 5 ай бұрын
So you sent her to Mr. Blue Eyes and potential control the moon bases mass drivers?
@sergy_fanatic677
@sergy_fanatic677 5 ай бұрын
i admire the amount of knowledge you have compiled about this masterpiece of a game. I finished the game and the dlc and had no idea of who Mr. Blue Eyes was and the consequences of sending Songbird to the moon.
@trollfather6692
@trollfather6692 5 ай бұрын
I’ve noticed on my 3rd playthrough of PL, there’s 2 missions (don’t recall which ones) that V states clearly that if they could give it all up, even implants, for a different life, they definitely would.
@rhodan74
@rhodan74 5 ай бұрын
I am a simple man, I see an abused, out-of-control raging superweapon in the body of an asian robot and all I can say is: yes, use + betray me. Also, sending So-Mi to the moon felt like a part of me went there as well and has a new adventure. My broken self remaining in NC went on to flatten arasaka and give the body to Johnny. That way I can spam So-Mi with friend requests via the blackwall :)
@dianasaurus3174
@dianasaurus3174 5 ай бұрын
Although I agree King of Swords is arguably the worst ending given it's the one that causes the most damage to the world (the spaceport massacre, Myers having Songbird tinker with the Blackwall again and what seems like an inminent 5th corporate war) I disagree in that it's pointless. Songbird hired V to save the president and promised V a cure. And not only did V save the president, they also agreed to help her escape. They could've easily have sold her out to the NUSA but instead chose the harder route. And then, she reveals that she cannot cure you. That there is only one cure, that she has been lying to you this whole time and that she planned to use it to save herself. I guess it depends on how you play as V, but I know mine hadn't gone through all that shit only for Songbird, her "friend" to suddenly reveal everything had been a lie and that she wasn't going to actually help. I'm sorry So Mi, maybe if you had told me earlier I wouldn't have minded, but if you put me through hell with the promise of a cure, you better bet I'm going to get it. Friendships are built on trust, and betraying me like that isn't what I'd consider the beginning of one.
@ReaperCet
@ReaperCet 5 ай бұрын
So mi isn't your friend, you knew her for a week tops lol. But I agree. They could have written it so that there WERE 2 cures, but one got damaged in the escape. Then you could choose to save yourself and live with the guilt, or save her. That would have been 1000% better imo. Now, I just hate songbird lol.
@Vegas8X
@Vegas8X 5 ай бұрын
Strongly agree
@anecdotalpreacher3047
@anecdotalpreacher3047 5 ай бұрын
Well said, had the exact same thoughts and having seen the trailer for phantom liberty So mi just seems like a Manipulator and a liar for all the one on one talk she’s had with v making us believe she was genuine and sincere about helping us with the cure, not saying it’s totally unjustifiable for her to seek out the cure but using another person just as desperate and vulnerable to help fight for you only to throw them under the bus just left a bad taste for me.
@jakeschwartz2514
@jakeschwartz2514 Ай бұрын
Buddy that means to get the cure you used Songbird and her Blackwall powers till she dropped just like Myers did. You are absolutely no better than the NUSA’s use of Songbird and the blackwall. The best ending is giving Songbird to Reed and not taking the cure at all.
@dianasaurus3174
@dianasaurus3174 Ай бұрын
@@jakeschwartz2514 nah bro So Mi literally manipulates you the whole time and then at least has the decency to reveal she was planning on leaving you to rot. She used V. This is Night City, and morality may be fine and dandy but when you're dying and the only actual cure that you've been fighting for is slipping away, are you really going to let it go to waste because "it's the right thing to do"? It's a selfish choice, like how her manipulating V into doing most of her bidding was a selfish choice. But it's absolutely not on the same level as Myers.
@bart_groeneweg
@bart_groeneweg 4 ай бұрын
Idk if this has been noticed already but in my opinion it’s a kinda sad but legendary detail! In the CGI trailer we see a display of how Reed gets betrayed by Songbird and gets finished off with 3 bullets. If you come at the confrontation with him at the launch pad (where by then he is betrayed by this time V). You can only shoot him maximum 3x before they cancel you out of pulling the trigger more and get animations of him getting hit 3x… crazy
@3stan.23
@3stan.23 5 ай бұрын
finally, been enjoying your videos since i got the ultimate edition 2 weeks ago. havent finished the main story and been busy doing side missions and just exploring cos im afraid i would get a bad ending. thinking of finishing PL soon before i end the main story quests
@killerkuerbis6845
@killerkuerbis6845 4 ай бұрын
King of Cups also helps V realize clinging onto life at all costs will destroy you in the end, accepting their fate to storm arasaka
@keyycee5547
@keyycee5547 5 ай бұрын
I think the ending where V is betraying Songbird and being healed isn't so bad. Especially when you consider that Songbird wanted to betray him and was never willing or able to heal him. ​ isn't as bad as everyone says. If V is a little more realistic and down-to-earth and looks at everything objectively, he still has good times ahead of him. He has Reed, even if the relationship is based on feelings of guilt on Reed's part. Yes, Reed isn't exactly there for him, but through him he has a job offer with the FBI. He also has an office job where he can hit the ground running as a “normal” person and secure his pension. He can meet new people there, perhaps a little less devious people than on the street. get to know another woman, settle down somewhere, etc. Screw Night City and this street life. V has to grow up and take advantage of his past. Not only does he have good and terrible memories, he has experience. He is extremely knowledgeable about technology, hardware, cyber-tech hacking, strategic thinking, etc. He's a little legend, he can put his name on a drink. He took Arasaka apart on his own, worked with the greatest personalities and interacted. Killed legends, saved the president, etc. I think if V would stop seeing everything so negatively, he still has a good life ahead of him. Yes, not the life that was placed in his lap (criminal) but in my opinion even better. He was betrayed, he suffered losses, but he can build a lot for himself. What happens to his life now would be interesting to see. It can be really good if he also gets psychological help
@jakeschwartz2514
@jakeschwartz2514 Ай бұрын
V isnt a real person, just letting you know to stay in reality. He also killed so many people either way.. maybe he just needs a therapist lol The best ending is to self delete in the end. It proves Night City is an abyss and makes the most sense V never displays even a bit of resistance to constantly fighting for his survival. His determination is down right anime in scale. But, a real person wouldnt go to such lengths especially without second thoughts.
@IPH-sd1zv
@IPH-sd1zv 12 сағат бұрын
@@jakeschwartz2514 the best ending is subjective. Every person who plays this game has a different personality, perspective, life experiences, and morals and thus will react differently to the characters and choices presented.
@IPH-sd1zv
@IPH-sd1zv 12 сағат бұрын
agreed- perfectly said my pick too
@niokyn3367
@niokyn3367 5 ай бұрын
Great video for my first playthrough I went with helping SoMi and killing Reed. But felt like I missed out when I didn't get the new ending so I ran a save for going with Reed and holy. It definitely has content you have to experience and although I don't like it and prefer the other one it definitely was a experience.
@liamslawsby3629
@liamslawsby3629 5 ай бұрын
I just finished this today with the king of swords ending. I feel as though what you said at the end was the most ok for everyone. I didn’t want Songbird to die first and foremost but I also didn’t want reed to die. I’m glad to know that Alex is ok as well because I loved her and that my V gets the ending ending which I’m glad about. Overall I was broken by the end but glad with what I did.
@obiwankenobi2116
@obiwankenobi2116 5 ай бұрын
King of Cups and King of Wands are the best endings.
@sebastjankrek1744
@sebastjankrek1744 Ай бұрын
I love King of wands. Fits perfectly building a legend
@michaelk8466
@michaelk8466 5 ай бұрын
I think letting So Mi die is the best ending. I just wish she had given V the neural matrix (before Reed shows up) like Jacki did with the bio chip. That would give the NUSA fewer things to doom the world. Also from a story basis destroying the behavioral chip before making it into a weapon would make that ending even better. On a side note, you can disassemble said chip which I think is actually not something that was intended. Since it doesn’t fail the quest to visit the netrunner. Now if Blue Eyes ends up being on the good side (I have my doubts) then sending So Mi to the moon would be the best ending. The innocent lives taken would be less than what it would be if the AIs are allowed to wipe humanity off the face of the earth. Lastly there is one better response to Myers than telling her fuck you. I forget which one it was, but Myers says “don’t forget who you’re talking to” and V replies, “and who would that be?” Which I think hits Myers harder in more ways than the fuck you response. It gives her more food for thought to say. She can just shrug off a fuck you as V being immature.
@thomasdawson7052
@thomasdawson7052 Ай бұрын
Not sure If anyone has mentioned this before but the Alpha Centauri thread also links to William Gibson's Neuromance, the novel that first defined the Cyberpunk genre and was a huge influence on the oriignal RPG. In the novel a super AI make contact with 'intelligence' from Alpha Centauri. In fact lots of links between events in the that novel and the game. CDPR certainly pay homage to it. Maybe a source for a deep dive of the future.
@ChiliTheDino
@ChiliTheDino 2 ай бұрын
I walked away from the final Songbird betrayal mission when she rampages into the horror sequence, and now I can't acsess it now lol.
@CartoonSlug
@CartoonSlug 5 ай бұрын
Imo helping sending So Mi to the moon is the best ending overall. So Mi was the only one who could empathize with V's situation. And even though she was dishonest with V, V still gets to save her, V gets the text from her a few in-game days later. Yes, we have to kill Reed in this ending, which is a big downside, but we also get to free Alex and say "fuck you" to Myers. If we're meant to be "cyberpunks," then this ending is the most fitting to me.
@AlexanderVRadev
@AlexanderVRadev 4 ай бұрын
Uhhhh...... You 2 are in the same situation.... And then she pulls the whole "yeah btw i lied to you and this cant help you". Doing that shit to the player is the biggest betrail there is exactly because she is in the same situation. All the endings are once again fucked just like the main game. CDPR can't let the player win even once, even so many years later.
@Lightwolf234
@Lightwolf234 3 ай бұрын
But you essentially let So Mi go with the ability of, not just the NUSA, but lot of people with special interest to see the world burn to track her down and abuse her again. We are talking people like Arasaka, Miltech, Mr. Blue Eyes, etc. etc. Not to mention the AIs from beyond the Blackwall still have a death grip around her. If anything that ending is probably doubled the disaster that Silverhand could have ever brought. Hell it’s probably would even rival that of Bartmoss collapsing the first Net. And let’s not forget all the people you had killed and lied too, just for some girl who had done nothing but lied and manipulated everyone to basically let a herself run off and become a highly sought after target for the rest of her life to try to get cured for herself only. Is it really that punk when you basically set the stage for farther doom down the line and we just really don’t get anything out of it?
@SonOfHubris
@SonOfHubris 2 ай бұрын
so mi simps are cucks irl
@sebastjankrek1744
@sebastjankrek1744 Ай бұрын
I like this ending not necessarily because of any logical rational reason, but because it feels the best in my mind. Somi is in a similar situation as you and despite obvious deception there's a connection there. You can give her the unconditional love and backing that you yourself wish to have to get through your own situation. Surrendering Somi to the feds, even if I get cured feels like betrayal to both Somi and me. Not doing that. And if Reed is stupid enough to keep sucking the president's tittie he deserves what's coming, honestly.
@jeremiahkisimba5938
@jeremiahkisimba5938 5 ай бұрын
I chose to send songbird to the moon because it is the best ending.
@cyberius6
@cyberius6 4 ай бұрын
For her, sure. For everyone else, including the entire human race possibly, not so much...
@sebastjankrek1744
@sebastjankrek1744 Ай бұрын
Agreed. I also picked this ending. My V just respected Songbird as a kindred spirit for flying close to the sun, and for some reason, the betrayal didn't hurt that much. Seemed like the most epic ending you can have.
@johnsai4074
@johnsai4074 Ай бұрын
I chose the "worst ending" reasoning was this: I originally wanted to help save songbird and myself so I chose to side with her. When it was revealed that there was only 1 dose of the cure I came to the realization that she was only in it for herself so I decided to make the selfish move and give her back to the FIA to save myself.
@DontForgetOldKolobok
@DontForgetOldKolobok 5 ай бұрын
21:00 You can find SoMi's pod in the rear desert/wall/ravine area. You scan the escape pod, johnny says something about it. So it would appear she did return. (It's about in the middle of the ravine, on the dogtown side, she crashed into a camp...there's some smoke there)
@justsaying6341
@justsaying6341 5 ай бұрын
that‘s the escape pod she used to disembark from space force one before it crashed
@TopViktorCool
@TopViktorCool 5 ай бұрын
I did the worst ending with out knowing it wtf. I am going to think about my moral standing
@N0umenalReality
@N0umenalReality 5 ай бұрын
Best ending? don't save the president....War criminal president - died, songbird don't need to hide from NUSA or FIA and she's free, Reed and Alex alive....
@tonyshum5569
@tonyshum5569 5 ай бұрын
her deal with hansen just meant she'll be his slave instead of the pres now, no one will save her, hansen will remain leading dogtown
@lgeiger
@lgeiger 5 ай бұрын
I agree with your number 1 ending. I had the same ending after my first playthrough, but I denied that stinking medal from Myers. The only thing I found stupid was that Panam was super angry and did not even want to talk to V in the ending ending even though V tells her during a date that the NUS had a potential cure. Does not really make sense to me since her eyes were glowing when V told her this... What I did not like about the hiding from the robot was that you had to hide in specific rooms. Otherwise it would run at you and find you behind walls while it did not see you when looking straight at you just because you found the intended hiding spot that I would never use to "hide" from something like this. Had to reload last checkpoints multiple times before finding the "correct" hiding spots... That sucked.
@BlueBuffalo207
@BlueBuffalo207 2 ай бұрын
I got the last ending you showed. Im satisfied with it. Was interesting to see V become humbled by becoming all human again. Atleast I can load up my last save file and play through everything I missed again.
@matthewjobin6665
@matthewjobin6665 5 ай бұрын
My first ending was king of pentacles, and I genuinely couldn’t parse through my feelings on it for a few days. I felt cowardice from my inability to fulfill So Mi’s final wish after what not only she had been through in the past, but what we put her through by betraying her. I felt anger at Reed, for not being able to overcome his programming and actually help So Mi. I felt disgust for Myers and her flagrant lack indifference towards So Mi’s well-being beyond needing her alive. I felt excitement getting to duel with Hansen in a really intense boss battle. I felt horror from the chimera, combined with intrigue from the Erebus blueprint I discovered and the terminals where the blackwall AI speaks about our world. And finally, I just… didn’t know how to feel about V, and I still kind of don’t. They survived, and like they said in the original games endings, they wanted to live, and they did. The life and people they knew is gone, but so many new opportunities are available to them now, maybe a calmer, more peaceful life. Still, mercwork was all V knew, and despite the circumstances through which some of them meet, people who care about them. I know a lot of people hate it, but it’s my second favorite ending after Temperance and right before the sun ending. This expansion is incredible, CDPR at their best, everything dialed up to 11.
@SaneTrinity
@SaneTrinity 5 ай бұрын
19:36 in the King of Pentacles Ending, So Mi attempted that permanent connection to blackwall, so her being to far gone might be exclusive to that ending. Not to mention the way we receive implant from So Mi in King of Wands seems to suggest things went well for her.
@MatthewAC100
@MatthewAC100 5 ай бұрын
Yoooo love your content please do a fully updated build list please make a new hack and gun netrunner build pls
@Stands-In-The-Fire
@Stands-In-The-Fire 5 ай бұрын
I've played through one Phantom Liberty ending so far, and that was King of Wands. I'd made the decision early on when I saw the cracks beginning to show that my V, for that playthrough, was 100% siding with Songbird. And the father I ended up plaything through it, as things turned to just utter chaos, I started wondering "have I just committed a war crime? I'm the villain now, right? This is my villain arc origin story". Because I was playing a netrunner V that went out of their way to avoid killing anybody unless I was truly backed into a corner or had been utterly betrayed (VDB? Kill on sight. All of them. Placide and Brigitte sealed their fate good and hard). So, to then go into the late stages of this path and find out that to see it through, I would be racking up a *staggering* body count of largely "innocent" people... oof. Just oof. But I stuck with it. And felt uneasy the whole time, but I mean I'd come that far right, so what were a few more ..... bodies.... okay yeah, I'm definitely the villain now.
@UndyingZombie
@UndyingZombie 5 ай бұрын
Honestly the So Mi thing.. Kind of got to me.. I very much know what its like to be at the point that you are begging for death. So I was extremely torn by this Just a fyi, the only reason why I am still alive now is due to me surviving things that I honestly should not have, and I finally found a slightly better life. Still have to deal with a lot of physical pain and I have PTSD from the things I have been through.. But overall I am in a better situation than I used to be... I admit sometimes I find myself still wishing that my body did not continue to survive.. But like I said. At least I am no longer in the situation I used to be.
@bd145dc
@bd145dc 5 ай бұрын
I helped So-Mi, regardless she was deceiving me. I pitied her. After completing that I soloed the Saka tower. Just like a legend I didn't bow to any authorities and make my own way to survival. Besides, Reed ending sucks.
@Chublogging
@Chublogging 5 ай бұрын
№ 4 - Side with Reed and Betray Songbird and yourself purely for the sake of vague promises of Myers № 3 - Side with Songbird and let her fly away, falling into the hands of Mr. Blue Eyes and becoming a threat to the world № 2 - Side with Songbird and without hesitation betray her in spaceport, for "greater good" № 1 - Side with Songbird and let Reed listen to you and take her personally, but to refuse any contacts and "help" from NUSA Best one: Side with Reed and to learn the whole story, to be horrified by the possibilities of Songbird and hers fate. Fulfill her last wish. Send the fuck to Myers. Talk to Reed in confidence.
@MastaKeahi
@MastaKeahi 4 ай бұрын
In king of swords if you go back to your apartment there is a postcard from Alex she finally retires.
@whiteowlmassacre4907
@whiteowlmassacre4907 5 ай бұрын
Handing So Mi over to Reed after siding with her because she lied to you about the neural matrix is such a petulant decision. Sure, it's disappointing to finally hear that she had no intention of curing you, but at that point you've watched her give everything she has to survive (like V), you know that Reed's loyalty won't let him keep her from being enslaved to the net by Myers, and you still have other options to explore. To send her off to a "life" of being used as a tool and losing her sense of self in the process is a cruel decision to make because of a buised ego. Tbh, I don't know how you even side with Reed at the moment of truth, knowing that he's well-intentioned, but ultimately handcuffed by his loyalty. Yet another great video, Sam!
@AntisepticHandwash
@AntisepticHandwash 5 ай бұрын
I don't consider it petulant at all because it represents the exerting of consequences and justice. So Mi lied to everyone, caused an immense amount of death and suffering at the Stadium and Spaceport, _knowingly risks a world war and the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives,_ and manipulated and used V. You don't just get to have your happy ending after that. What happened to her in her life is sad, but I consider her incomprehensibly selfish. Pathetic and craven even. To be willing to make the _entire world_ suffer for her own survival - it's unreal. In this instance, I'm actually happy she's sent back to her physical, mental, and emotional prison that she did all of this this to avoid.
@sebastjankrek1744
@sebastjankrek1744 Ай бұрын
​@@AntisepticHandwash I understand this logical reasoning, but my V doesn't think this way at all, especially after having killed so many people himself. He understands that Somi just wants to survive like himself, and respects her for flying so close to the sun, flying into legend. Not seeing it through to the end, selling her out would not only be a betrayal of her (which is fine, she did betray V) it would be a betrayal of himself in a way.
@AntisepticHandwash
@AntisepticHandwash Ай бұрын
@@sebastjankrek1744 Yes of course - Cyberpunk is a role-playing game, and the player is free to develop and embody their own ideas and conclusions. For me, I like to look at external factors and also externalities for my playing of the story. I believe there's also a reasonable argument to be made that certain roleplay options is likely how the story 'actually' is. In the same way that e.g. we can probably assume that V didn't fail most of their assignments and gigs even though that's an option in the game, I don't believe V is a person that kills innocent civillians, even though that's also an option in the game. There's just too much fixed information/writing outside of player choices that refutes this option. Killing innocent civillians is different from killing enemy combatants and even from killing non-combatant enemy faction-members (though rather marginally, I would argue). But killing civilians is exactly what So Mi does, and intends to do, at a scale that nothing that V does can come close to. I think there's also enough fixed information to imply that V has a moral disposition against this as well, apart from pragmatic or incidental avoidance of enacting it.
@happyninja42
@happyninja42 5 ай бұрын
I actually never did any of the endings other than the one where you rescue SoMi and send her to the Moon. I found myself just completely uninspired to play through the others, knowing how they end. Plus, given how when you are talking to Reed leading up to The Choice, he says repeatedly that he would do anything to get SoMi out of the situation she is in. Well...I took him at his word, and decided I wouldn't let his misguided loyalty to a political bitch, ruin his efforts to save the girl he helped to destroy....even if that means he has to die to do it.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Reed is too much of a useful idiot for Myers. One of the easiest ways to manipulate people is by playing to their ego of being a good person. "You're a good person, I know you won't let anything happen to So Mi. If you get her we can take care of her."
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 5 ай бұрын
Yeah reed is like takemura. Loyal to fault
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
@@anosvoldigoat3351 Exactly!
@wacemindu7670
@wacemindu7670 5 ай бұрын
A nice touch from CD PRs behalf is when you shoot Reed in King of Wands he dies in different positions depending on where you shoot him. Personally I went chest as the imagery of that death is pretty sweet in photo mode.
@nevaehdovaston248
@nevaehdovaston248 5 ай бұрын
I have 4 play throughs of cyberpunk with 4 different builds and I plan on playing each different phantom liberty ending with each character and matching up each ending with what kind of personality each of my characters have.
@tisilviosilence6158
@tisilviosilence6158 5 ай бұрын
In my mind, So Mi on the Moon likely is in a better condition than Songbird in Cynosure. If we side with Reed, she will need to use her powers to escape the stadium by herself, leading to her breakdown, capture by MaxTac and the following almost AI takeover of herself in the facility. If we side with So Mi she can limit the use of her powers in the stadium as V does much of the fighting and has them jacked into her wehn she uses the Blackwall at the Spaceport. Also think of the mental battle. Jonny may stop actively fighting V, but the AI certainly is fighting Songbird. If you side with her, she has actually hope and friend helping her, if you side with Reed it is her alone against the world, probably making it harder to fight the AI. So you don't neccesasarily need fancy Mr. Blue Eyes tech for So Mi to be able to use the Neural Matrix on the Moon, just her condition not being as far gone.
@clintbeastwood5116
@clintbeastwood5116 5 ай бұрын
I know she betrays us, but I feel so damn bad for So Mi. I don't really have it in me to turn her over at the end, and it seems to be the choice that Johnny must approves of, too.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
Yup, in So Mi we're basically seeing a mirror of our own character. Someone desperate to escape and survive while something horrific and seemingly unstoppable is happening to them.
@tylerrussell9926
@tylerrussell9926 5 ай бұрын
​@@RicochetForceyep and willing to do anything to survive. After all we did set off an emp just to capture one guy I hope the hospitals had emp shielding.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
@@tylerrussell9926 Bingo
@chriskarpetas
@chriskarpetas 5 ай бұрын
Going through Cynosure really shows how So Mi was basically a slave to the NUSA. Had no choice but to get "recruited", and then was sent on mission after mission that demolished her body and memories. Knowing that, it makes sense that she would not trust V either, but at the very end, when she was entirely vulnerable (on the train to the shuttle), she told the truth anyway. And yeah, as Johnny said, she's one of the rare ones that get away.
@dtice69
@dtice69 5 ай бұрын
I saved at the terminal so I could try out King of Swords and King of Wands. Maybe it's just me because I'm playing essentially as a David Martinez build, but it seems the most Cyberpunk set of endings regardless of whether you side with Reed in the end or not. Something about all the chaos all of that causes to innocents, and in the end you either start back at square 1 or you get cured but lose everything, just seems to fit the point of the entire Cyberpunk world.
@jackdavison7515
@jackdavison7515 Ай бұрын
I finished my PL run a few days ago with the King of Wands ending. I made the descison to side with So Mi because I think my bain misread the subtitles as 'Hansen' instead of 'Reed'. While playing, I found myself really missing the Conversation History feature from Baldur's Gate 3 as well
@RafikiafReKo
@RafikiafReKo 5 ай бұрын
In terms of pure gameplay and what I find to be the true ending, it is King of Pentacles. Killing So Mi is imo like killing a person who is depressed when they are asking for it. I have a hard time justifying it. In terms of story, I love the concept of following So Mi and seeing her deteriorate slowly infront of us and the exposition in the Ried path wasn't that new to me since her personality show allot through out the game. Being that she is probably the most expressive and uses that to gain our trust. The whole concept of her basically playing everyone and winning feels satisfying since Ried can never win. Johnny mentioned that he would have become Ried if he had stayed in the military, this part got to me in the case of always staying loyal for someone who doesn't deserve it.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was an interesting juxtaposition. So Mi and Reed both lie to you. But So Mi is lying because she's trying to escape her pursuers and survive the horrible thing happening to her. Reed is lying because he honestly believes the pursuers he's loyal to are the best people to help So Mi. Even though he's loyal to corrupt people exploiting this good natured aspect of him. I've seen people say that anyone who remained loyal to So Mi even after all the lies are fools, but you later find out that she actually regrets lying to you. Because she sees you were loyal to her, and the lying wasn't necessary. So you see that in the line of work they're in the lying seems to become a default state for them, because you can't afford to be honest and loyal. And would't you know it, Reed is a walking example of what you get for being those things. And as you said, Johnny mentions he would've bcome the same way, the honesty and loyalty gets exploited.
@ravenspurplebeats5412
@ravenspurplebeats5412 5 ай бұрын
issue with reed is, by time he learnt mistake he did with song bird, its basically too late for her and he is still attached like puppet to myers so cant really respect him much.
@ReaperCet
@ReaperCet 5 ай бұрын
If you help songbird after she admits she lied the whole time, you're just as much of a puppet. You let her drag you through a whole world of trouble because she made some puppy dog eyes at you. Lol
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 5 ай бұрын
@@ReaperCet that was Myers fault not so mi's . Guess u did not pay attention to the game lol
@ReaperCet
@ReaperCet 5 ай бұрын
@@anosvoldigoat3351 no it wasn't. So Mi set up the plane crash and called V to help save Myers. She was using the fact that you were desperate to manipulate you the whole time
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 5 ай бұрын
@@ReaperCet so ?? She wanted to trade Myers with Hansen for the cure and wanted v to save the president so Hansen gets nothing . Also she learned about the cure's one use after Hansen forced her to work on cynosure so till the plane crash she believed she was going to cure v and herself . Also it was not her idea to crash the plane. She wanted to do an emergency landing . Hansen shot down the plane hence the crash landing
@allypezz
@allypezz 5 ай бұрын
I turned songbird in after siding with her for the cure. It was my first time playing the main game so I decided to play PL up to the point of no return and beat the main quest. I chose to call Reed even with the other more exciting options because my head canon was "I'll do anything to survive". After all this manipulation, I thought f*** it I'm doing what's right for me. It was hard to watch, but it's a tale about learning that sometimes a normal life is just enough. Leave the legend behind you and move on. Your true friends stand by you, such as Vik and Misty but even they must move on. Bittersweet.
@dcriket9
@dcriket9 5 ай бұрын
Another Cyberpunk ending that could start another Cyberpunk game would be that Johnny gets V's body, V goes with Alt, and Alt clones a body for V's new engram to start a new game with nothing...
@insertname6057
@insertname6057 5 ай бұрын
Sending Songbird to the Moon is the best ending for me as in this one Alex survives and even gets her dream retirement which made me so happy as Alex is the character I sympathized with the most in Phantom Liberty. Songbird gets to escape NUSA's grip which is also great, of course she will be used by Mr B but she might still get a chance at life as we know that Mr B prefers subtle methods of control. At least we gave her a chance and that's what counts for me. She went through so much shit that she deserved a chance plus V knows how Songbird feels and has compassion for her, at least in the way I played the character. Reed gets the best ending here imo as otherwise he will never be able to get away from NUSA, serving them even when the ideals he signed up for and fought for were shattered and meant nothing to him anymore. If Reed lives, he also has to endure guilt for what he did to Songbird for the rest of his life, from the time he forcibly recruited her to either her death or eternal servitude to NUSA. So I believe that death is unfortunately the only escape from this for Reed. Other endings are really interesting as well but for me this one has the best possible paths the main characters can take. That includes V as they don't get the cure(staying in coma for two years is horrible for them btw) and get to have a nice heart to heart with Johnny about his choices compared to Songbird's.
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