NO BUT HELP ME GET ITTT I'm trying to reach them but it's hard !

They're too busy recording the next album right now

@@supermot34 Yep. Some new stuff for Yogev to check out. :D

Mayhaps #Mayshuggah may summon their presence lol? 😂

@@YogevGabay I bet the great Morgan Agren could assist. He’s tight with the band, etc.

Hell yeah !

Probably, but the rest of us would appreciate the breakdown a lot I'm sure

I have a way of making slightly dumbed down explanations of some Meshuggah riffs for myself. Here's one for the outro of Lethargica. I think of the riff as a steady rhythm of dotted quarter notes over a quarter note pulse. That creates a "three over four" pattern where every other note is on or off the beat. Meshuggah do a similar thing in most of Swarm, in the verse of Sane and prominently in the solo of Clockworks. The interesting thing about Lethargica is that they are doing the same pattern, but not playing every dotted quarter note. Try tapping along to the rhythm of the riff, and keep doing so even through the last note of the phrase ringing out. The next phrase will start on one of those dotted quarter notes.

@@Ragnarockalypse that’s a good way of looking at it. I think that Lethargica’s outro is rather easy to follow, however - that snare keeps moving and I cannot follow it after a while. I know that it’s a steady 4/4 beat, but it still somehow manages to escape haha

@@Goodstuff12345666789 Count making sure the snare is on the 3 if you count out 1 2 (3) 4, it'll help you to keep it in time :)

Lethargica has one of the meanest, groovy intros of all time. So few things make me headbang so hard

I was literally thinking that

Limb independence, you gotta have it as a drummer

@@dlxfuentes Or film it separately and then splice the videos together.

@@Ragnarockalypse yep way more likely.

@@Conundrummer1 erm have you seen this guy play drums? Way less likely I'd say....

Happy to help !

Yeah man sometimes i listen to these riffs for days trying to get them. Then you might get them but then you forget :D

@@YogevGabay would LOVE to see a break down of Future Breed Machine some time in Mayshuggah, it's 8 to 10 amazing riffs that would be cool af in this kinda of an analysis

@@gregorycook5070 I spent 2 hours sat trying to work that out last week. Mårten and Fredrik's old lesson video helped me work out the insane guitar riff into the first 'verse'.

OHHHHH thanks mannn!

hahahahaha best

Oh yeah. I always considered this riff to be one of their heaviest/grooviest. The one in dehumanization being the one

@@IvanSKMK bro that gives me chills when I hear it, it's fantastic

My pleasure! And if you have some Moroccan music to send over, I'd love tp hear! I wanna add some more to my Chaabi video.

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YESSSSSSSSS I love it

Thank you so much!

Yup it's a 16 bar section that then resets. On the Alive record they just play one repetition of the 16 bars.

Boom exactly

Glad it helped!

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I agree, I’ve been waiting for one!! Thee best meshuggah everything is in that song

The thing is, it may be completely random ! looking at it soon again

@@YogevGabay Tomas Haake once said it _was_ random indeed.

@@YogevGabay It is! If you scroll down Fredrik's instagram you can find a chart of the intro, it's insane to follow. Owen McKinley also has a drum cover of the song that features a few written out sections on screen.

@@silverdoesmc891 ohhh Ill look it up !

Glad it was helpful!

hahahahah it epic

Glad you like them!

They have the musical feel of gods. I really want to play by feel and most of the time it works out, but some stuff that Meshuggah and Gojira do, i just can't get it down with feel. The intro to "Art Of Dying" by Gojira is still mind-boggling to me, i can't get it down by feel and i have to constantly count it and focus to the max. If i don't, i skip one beat and there goes the 45 beat phrase. No idea how Meshuggah can write their songs from feel.

Slowly trying !

My pleasure!

Thanks a lot man! Patreon is up yes, as for merch, I'm starting to think about it !

Welcome aboard!

Awesome! Thank you!

Happy to help!

There are eight sixteenths in four eighths (which you probably know, but just pointing out since you said you had next to no musical background), so it is actually very similar in length. The main difference on a casual listen would be the "feel" relative to the pulse though, most people would tap their foot to the quarter or eighth note pulse which means that the odd groupings of 7/16 wouldn't line up with it. Every second 7 starts off beat, giving it an angular feel that can be very distinct even if you aren't actively counting the meter. As with most things the easiest way to really get this is to just do it yourself, tap along at the rate of the four eighth notes and see how the sevens go in and out of sync. This exact kind of angular seven (and five) is all over the place, especially in rock and metal, so once you get a feel for it you'll probably start to notice it in a lot of other songs that you may not have realized had odd patterns as well.

Man I love that shirt hahahaha so arrogant and not what I actually think but its hilarious

hahahahaha best

AGREEDD

Well, you're right hahaha thanks !

For sure, it's the one song I still haven't figured out completely - the part from 8.40 is insane

"No one knows how "I" goes" - Tomas Haake

Great suggestion! Any specific song ?

Yo I'm happy you like them !!