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Gas Training - Ideal Logic Blocked Burner

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Allen Hart

Allen Hart

Күн бұрын

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Blocked Ideal Logic

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@Ali-eo9tx
@Ali-eo9tx 3 күн бұрын
This guy has taught me more in a few vids than Ideal technical have in 3 years
@jackhoskins722
@jackhoskins722 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says get over it or it’s boring can piss off your videos are great keep it up
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 3 жыл бұрын
Not boring at all. You've provided a new insight into fault finding one of those faults sent to drive you mad. Thank you Mr Ideal, and Allen.
@kevj1964
@kevj1964 3 жыл бұрын
Think this guy would be a great addition to viva training , even if only one day a week , so much knowledge and explains the info so well..
@StuHNomadBiker
@StuHNomadBiker 3 жыл бұрын
P.S This is the type of stuff that should be being taught on the courses ! Ideal, vaillant , baxi take note, not saying you're bad, but this is the real fault finding stuff that lads need to know .. 🙌🏼
@lukeclarke1743
@lukeclarke1743 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep the videos coming MR ideal man , have watched all the videos you have sent Allen and every time I come away with a clear understanding of what your trying to get across .. Cannot express highly enough how great I think your videos are . Thank you so much and keep up the great work Allen
@dimiretail1546
@dimiretail1546 3 жыл бұрын
This information is absolutely GOLD DUST. Top marks to you mate for sharing your knowledge.
@johmcinally3521
@johmcinally3521 3 жыл бұрын
Allen, "WTF" pet hair compromising a new boiler. I have had loads of the old dust problems with gas fire oxypilots but never thought a cat could stop a boiler. Please keep this great gas engineer onboard.
@rayc1503
@rayc1503 3 жыл бұрын
Don't ever stop sharing the information you have Kev. Excellent tutorials and never boring, great diagram btw 😉. Thank you Allen for bringing a great Team together and sharing their wealth of knowledge 👍.
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. 👍
@anthonystark8646
@anthonystark8646 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for taking the time out of your life to help others. For those who don’t appreciate your efforts then they should just look elsewhere.
@daleatkinson7901
@daleatkinson7901 3 жыл бұрын
That guy knows his stuff 👊🏻. Keep them coming
@pheasantplucker6117
@pheasantplucker6117 9 ай бұрын
Thanks enjoyed that. The video on dirty jets and venturi tubes has saved me several times already .
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 9 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@TheDickPuller
@TheDickPuller 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic wee tip!! The Logic is a great boiler & so simple to install, service & repair👍👍
@nur5ey1
@nur5ey1 4 ай бұрын
Used in conjuction with your vid and a gas rate check you'll find this issue for sure, it could completely throw your gas analyser into an absolute emergency situation too as combustion process will be completely incomplete I'm sure..thank you for your time and enlightening vids..invaluable!!
@plumbertime
@plumbertime 3 жыл бұрын
Love this guy he’s up there with Geoffrey for great training.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Жыл бұрын
Not boring at all. It's what we are here for. Should be common knowledge really. Back in the day, for example, we all knew what a thermocouple output voltage was expected to be. Thank you.
@chrissadowski2669
@chrissadowski2669 3 жыл бұрын
It could not be explained any better, great job
@marksenior1179
@marksenior1179 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Ideal your'e on the right track Engineering is all about the detail, listen carefully and absorb the information, because one day it might just be needed to get out of a fix and if not it still helps to build the bigger picture of what is actually happening inside the appliance, thanks.
@bevpaddon5410
@bevpaddon5410 2 жыл бұрын
Great diagram, brilliant explanation. Ignore anyone who says you're going on too long. Thanks Allen and Ideal engineer
@geoffersgra
@geoffersgra 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative. Thanks
@Carl-re6zb
@Carl-re6zb Жыл бұрын
You sir are a real gem. Thanks for sharing your remarkable knowledge and insight
@themadhatter4761
@themadhatter4761 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks for taking the time and effort to produce this video 👍👍
@paulrossiter9567
@paulrossiter9567 3 жыл бұрын
quality insight of your ionisation checks very good knowledge 👏👏👏 Cheers Allen and Mr ideal 😎
@gedheaton1415
@gedheaton1415 Жыл бұрын
Real world fault finding, top man Mr I, thanks for sharing and hope you take some satisfaction from knowing the help you give to many. Stay safe fella and again thank you.
@davidmclean8924
@davidmclean8924 3 жыл бұрын
Quality video as always. If ye ain't learning, you're slacking.
@nevermindthebollocks1171
@nevermindthebollocks1171 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on m8 , I work on ideal a lot and everthing you do is on the money.
@user-fs8pf2rt9z
@user-fs8pf2rt9z 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, good info, thanks for posting this Allan hart 👍🏻😀
@gasmark340
@gasmark340 3 жыл бұрын
Great knowledge👍 really appreciate it. Learning all the time. Thanks
@flaviusiacob1558
@flaviusiacob1558 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for The explanation!
@nindes
@nindes 3 жыл бұрын
Keep em coming, great length don’t shorten them at all
@maciejkeir9543
@maciejkeir9543 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Don't listen to others, just keep them coming nice and informative.
@jackhoskins722
@jackhoskins722 3 жыл бұрын
Had the same problem with ideal took me ages to figure it was the burner great to know for future
@Heatingandplumbing1
@Heatingandplumbing1 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy his training. Ignore the naysayers.
@cfgman9176
@cfgman9176 Жыл бұрын
Don't ever under value your knowledge buddy. I have been doing this for over 45 years and every days is a school day. Appreciate the background to the problem and the solution.
@johncrolla
@johncrolla 9 ай бұрын
Amazing video , if it’s a blocked burner then there would have been poor performance on the heating side aswell , am I right ? I miss this guys video’s, he’s the best😊
@dublin-gasboilers251
@dublin-gasboilers251 8 ай бұрын
Great information !!!
@williamfowler5768
@williamfowler5768 11 ай бұрын
Great video. If I can understand how it works I can understand when it doesn’t
@davidb2464
@davidb2464 3 жыл бұрын
That is a brilliant fitting to push onto the gas nipple, where did you get it? This is such an AMAZING vid, he takes his time to explain things, he doesn't rush. More of his vids on your channel would be such a great addition.
@davidb2464
@davidb2464 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heart, but do you know where he got that attachment
@Drheat007
@Drheat007 9 ай бұрын
This guy is the goat … love it dude ❤❤
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 9 ай бұрын
Thank You
@muhammadAli-kd2zp
@muhammadAli-kd2zp 3 жыл бұрын
Great information 👍👍👍
@rognevs5695
@rognevs5695 3 жыл бұрын
I had this exact fault a few months back, pulling my hair out with it, rang technical loads of times, went through everything you said, before I gave up and put it down to main heat exchanger being blocked and unable to clear, so in went a new unit. Wish I had seen this before
@user-go3ux8fm4r
@user-go3ux8fm4r Жыл бұрын
Write a book please mate.This info is priceless
@michaelgiles9545
@michaelgiles9545 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for taking time out to show us
@haroldwebster1459
@haroldwebster1459 2 жыл бұрын
A thinking man well done..............
@tubejogger
@tubejogger 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
@Carl-re6zb
@Carl-re6zb 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge
@davidhowell2269
@davidhowell2269 3 жыл бұрын
Great help Mr Ideal, thank you. What would the microamps be for 12 and 15kW heat only Logic boilers? 3uA min again?
@davidspencer8968
@davidspencer8968 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant informative vid......thank you
@paulmusther4219
@paulmusther4219 3 жыл бұрын
Well worth knowing Thanks Alan.
@Drheat007
@Drheat007 Жыл бұрын
Magic Alan 🎉🎉
@stephenayers8242
@stephenayers8242 Жыл бұрын
Helpful video 👍🏻
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 9 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for your comment, please consider subscribing to support the channel 🙂
@liamh2467
@liamh2467 Жыл бұрын
Great vid m8. Im stuck on a noisy ideal throwing up an F3 fault. I've taken the venturi out and cleaned it and still noisy 😢
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 9 ай бұрын
Thank You
@gasfitter78
@gasfitter78 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you another great video👍🏿
@kevind7150
@kevind7150 3 жыл бұрын
Micro Amp testing will go in my fault finding index book. Thanks Ideal Man
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 3 жыл бұрын
Great!
@adriatikqypi9356
@adriatikqypi9356 Жыл бұрын
Great video, well explained. Thank you
@dickyrock1
@dickyrock1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man, keep up the good work
@ajmalsafi3774
@ajmalsafi3774 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us.
@josephmckinley2386
@josephmckinley2386 Жыл бұрын
If people think it is too long a video don’t watch I really think it helps alot
@harbansbhullar
@harbansbhullar Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@andyfadian
@andyfadian 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, I work on a lot of logics 👏👏
@malky9645
@malky9645 2 жыл бұрын
Would a blocked burner cause the gas rate to be low on maximum output and cause a droning noise on ignition?
@Dan83C
@Dan83C 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it would. I’m a British Gas engineer. Every service on a pre mix burner had to be gas rated. If it was 10% below or 5% above the kw rating of the appliance then we’d have to investigate why. ANY kind of restriction of the gas - undersized gas pipe, blocked injector, burner would cause this.
@gasmanrus
@gasmanrus Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting! 👌🏼
@andreasspahiu3669
@andreasspahiu3669 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant 👏 thanks
@rockreel2466
@rockreel2466 9 ай бұрын
Makes a lot of sense. The MI's seldom give the correct solution. Most faults I attend have been dirty boilers due to lack of proper servicing by the big players. 10 minutes and £25 to the engineers is not a service.
@karamathussain406
@karamathussain406 3 жыл бұрын
Good things always take time to get across, a good teacher always thinks of all the students. Many thanks for that really useful indeed. Rwgards THE GAS WIZARDZ
@paulrossiter9567
@paulrossiter9567 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering that if you haven’t got a micro amp scale on your multi meter can you set to milli amps and convert the reading or will you not get a correct reading …..thanks 👍
@Memories4lifemedia
@Memories4lifemedia 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@VanderelstTM
@VanderelstTM 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Thanks
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@julianhawker7672
@julianhawker7672 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Ideal, Ignore the tw#ts ! i'm long in the trade ( 40 yrs soon) and like Allen, ALWAYS learn something from your comprehensive videos, so thank-you for taking the time. A question for you, have you ever gas rated a blocked logic burner and if so what was the outcome?? (in comparison to the micro amps) Cheers. :-)
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry pal I can’t really help you with that one, I only really ever gas rate the appliance when I’ve finished either servicing it or repairing it, I don’t think I’ve ever done one whilst in the middle of a job.
@julianhawker7672
@julianhawker7672 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevincranfield5235 No worries, thanks for the reply. I sometimes gas rate during fault finding and find it useful for pointing me in the right direction.
@ryanjones7921
@ryanjones7921 Жыл бұрын
What a geek,, love it
@maltaylor2973
@maltaylor2973 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jameshawkins5280
@jameshawkins5280 3 жыл бұрын
Yet again a great video mr ideal as I'm having a problem with a ES 35 gas consumption incorrect on central heating its correct 24 kw 2.55 m3h but on max I'm only getting 2.2 m3h yet 19mbar inlet pressure checked benchmark and installer when new had the same readings boiler was just serviced only 6 years old any ideas new gas valve or should I do the test and check the micro amps . Cheers
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 3 жыл бұрын
If your doing it on service mode max in heating again getting 24kw, that is fine as it stays in max, if your suggesting that on hot water you can’t achieve the rating you require it may be because the heat ex has reached temperature and the thermistor is modulating it down, and if the boiler and all the outlets are functioning correctly I would not concern yourself too much, unless it is causing a problem.
@steveincork3669
@steveincork3669 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video priceless information believe me especially last job on a Friday evening. Is it a must to change the main heat exchanger gasket when burner has been removed?
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 3 жыл бұрын
Not if it’s in good condition, if it’s really flat and turning white then I would, I usually give them 3-4 years maximum before I replace. But it’s your call really
@steveincork3669
@steveincork3669 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin👍
@metromikey1985
@metromikey1985 2 жыл бұрын
What's this guys channel called, would love to see more of his video's.
@SanguinePlumber
@SanguinePlumber 2 жыл бұрын
Good man! Really appreciated.
@efrygasservices6169
@efrygasservices6169 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 3 жыл бұрын
Legend!
@illuminate06
@illuminate06 4 ай бұрын
Ideal logic + heat 12 incomplete combustion on service low fire but fine on high. I striped serviced the boiler but same issue, it is also making a loud whistling and rumbling noise on low fire service mode. I flushed the heat exchanger, cleaned out the condense, cleaned the Venturi and injector but no luck. I changed the gas valve and also tried a new injector but still no luck. The next option is the the burner top unless anyone else has any ideas?
@arryrooker3079
@arryrooker3079 27 күн бұрын
Legend
@davebayliss3142
@davebayliss3142 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 👏👏👏 thank you
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@lizardboy0802
@lizardboy0802 3 жыл бұрын
Handy tip.
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 3 жыл бұрын
Just been editing your videos. Thanks so much.
@veronicahart450
@veronicahart450 3 жыл бұрын
very good video
@cynt1111
@cynt1111 2 жыл бұрын
screen shot these readings and put them in my work file. Another one for the armoury.
@antonybuckley2645
@antonybuckley2645 2 жыл бұрын
Top info thank you
@Mrwetnuts
@Mrwetnuts Жыл бұрын
So would 7uf on a 30kw indicate a blocked burner
@JoshRampling
@JoshRampling Жыл бұрын
I’ve got an f2 fault on a independent 35. Tried this and my reading are way higher than these rather than lower. What could that be? Really stuck with this, boiler has been stripped and double checked. Any help appreciated
@JonasMacijauskas
@JonasMacijauskas Жыл бұрын
This is great video ! ive got customer with very similar problem and after 2 visits and even consulting Ideal technical i could not find the problem. will try this. I just wonder if its possible to wash burner and clean or do i need a new one?
@abdulh63
@abdulh63 2 жыл бұрын
quick question, if the burner baffle was blocked, wouldn't gas rating show this as well? i'm thinking the fan will struggle to suck up the gas from gas valve and push the gas air mixer through the burner baffle?
@robbell5880
@robbell5880 2 жыл бұрын
Could the burner being blocked, cause a noisy ignition and high CO on the air integrity?
@davidmarsden8868
@davidmarsden8868 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to clean the burner baffles ? ie, attaching a small crevice device to a vac hose
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 3 жыл бұрын
I would probably say ‘ I doubt it, but I have not tried tbh, although being in my position o wouldn’t try because I would just get a new one off the van rather than waste time. But if you do happen to try let me know. 😂
@davidmarsden8868
@davidmarsden8868 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevincranfield5235 i will try next time i come across it and let you know if it works.. or not. Thans for your time and effort making these videos, as a former manufacturers eng doing the same job as you, ive learned something from then and can tell you would make a good trainer
@meatballhead3290
@meatballhead3290 2 жыл бұрын
3yr Old Ideal Logic Rumble at low Burn... Injector fully cleaned. Venturi tube cleaned. New Burner fitted. New Gas Valve fitted. Main Heat Exchanger Flushed through/Cleaned from above with Burner removed. ....and its still rumbling at low burn! After years of dealing with this issue on the Ideal Logic Range I've found it's basically Pot luck as to which of the above remedies the rumble at low burn but nothing has cured this one. I've found If you partially restrict the air flow through the venturi the rumble stops everytime
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 2 жыл бұрын
It will need a new pcb. Call and get it replaced under warranty. The minimum fan speed will be set wrong on the board.
@longlegs31
@longlegs31 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a few like this currently got one rumbling badly. Changed the same parts as you and a new flue. Then day two working pressure is low. Sgn are doing a new supply and governor. Will see what happens next week
@benregler9872
@benregler9872 2 жыл бұрын
Surely with a blocked burner the gas rate on Max will be under?
@rezuk1208
@rezuk1208 2 жыл бұрын
💞💞💞
@sentemir3183
@sentemir3183 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏
@StuHNomadBiker
@StuHNomadBiker 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, can't believe 9 bellends gave it a thumbs down ...
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@mgbroadsterJ
@mgbroadsterJ Жыл бұрын
Keep an old burner .
@stephenhudson4931
@stephenhudson4931 2 жыл бұрын
another way is to gas rate on hi & low
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn’t work, the differences may be negligible on a gas rate. Also it may tell you that there is an issue with volume consumption but it would not tell you whether it was the burrner, injector, gas valve or even supply pipe. So a gas rate would not help sorry.
@palberry
@palberry 2 жыл бұрын
How does a cat's hair get in there? This is a room sealed appliance
@kevincranfield5235
@kevincranfield5235 2 жыл бұрын
i said it in the vidoe. the cat had clawed the rubber bung off the flue where you test the O2.
@mgbroadsterJ
@mgbroadsterJ Жыл бұрын
Poor out side air quality .
@declanjudge6495
@declanjudge6495 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AllenHart999
@AllenHart999 Жыл бұрын
Thank You
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