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NO PLEASE NO

Kratos running in the farm with the pride flag🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💀💀🖤

Not a chance dude not GOW 😂😂😂

​@@outlavvhahaha

Come on, Erend is a typical guy for a friend zone. There was no chance at all 😅

@@Mindspectrum for you, but most of the players know that he and Aloy were the perfect couple, forced inclusion

I share your opinion man 😢

That’s what everyone’s saying

They didn't give a partner to choose at all, everyone fucked up, such a problem xD

I brought platinum on the first game and didn't play the 2nd part but since this exists, i won't bother to buy the game!

​@@hazimalsharif1374I'm grateful for this video because I won't be getting this.

Bruh I'm pansexual and I'm sick of this being put everywhere too

After all it's not in the main storyline, it's from the burning shores DLC and this scene is optional.

@@merlin8046me too

😂😂😂

Absolutely not. If this is it then nemesis better destroy the planet.. they didn’t learn their lessons.

She saved the world twice, I think she deserves a love story.

@@05BIRDMAN09 she ain't Aloy she's Gayloy. Also, being a genetic dead end is counterintuitive to the game's story lol

No wonder the grandma called Aloy a cursed child😢😂

I think bud light is sponsoring this game 😂

Still my ship

😅

Funny as hell my man!!!!!!

Sun king avad is now a premium member

and in those 2 to 3 days they opened up to each other immensely, saved the world, and went through multiple life or death situations.

@@abbyanderson2463she did that with other characters too

@@babyfacenelson2704 she didn’t really, maybe with beta and when she opened up they became really close sisters like immediately. Aloy doesn’t have a history of being distrustful. She’s always loved people, it’s her main character trait. The journey of the second game was for her to learn to share her burdens with others, and the. obvious next step to that is learning how to become romantically invested in someone.

@abbyanderson2463 she went thru those exact same scenarios with Eren, Talanah, Varl, Avad and several others so what's the reason there And no, her being stubborn, self reliant, very untrusting by default, brash, quick to act and forgiving. Those are her primary traits. Not falling in love with someone after 2 days, that's just nonsense While I agree the second game is about her opening up to others, there's a difference between learning to trust those you've had months to get to know and falling for a random stranger because the plot demanded it

@@roonkolos the point is she went through those same situations with other characters and formed strong relationships with them, just like she’s done now with Seyka, just a different type of relationship, often your interested in people platonically, sometimes it’s romantically, and Aloy found someone she had a spark with. The second game has done a great job of humanising Aloy, which she needed. This is part of that.

Unfortunately you did 😅

😂😂​@@Gamer-ko3tz

I’m glad I never got the game with a waste of money

Neither did I. Way to take a franchise and crap on it.

the gameplay is Amazing but the story is trash upon trash luckily it's free on ps plus​@@blankprivatecompany9296

This was such a bummer, and I really will consider dropping this franchise. Makes no sense, isn't in her character, it's a forced choice. and I think I would have preferred her to have a relationship with Erend.

@@breandanh4912why must they make the main female character lesbian

@@justarandomuser12520 Exactly. It is literally stapled on in the very last moment of the DLC, and you can't choose to not be lesbian. The strongest decision you can make is to say that relationships are too much, and not that you don't swing that way.

@@justarandomuser12520, "oh no they ruined the game, the main character is lesbian 😭"

​@@justarandomuser12520Oh no homosexuality in my straight white games

My thoughts exactly...

Evolution fixes mistakes every day!

Idk if you noticed but same sex pairings are commonplace in Horizon

Make America Great Again ❤ Make Entertainment Great Again 😎

Lol, ignorance of the story completely. There are gay/lesbian characters all throughout Horizon and have been since Zero Dawn. Also, the planet isnt dying because of gay people. Its because the terraforming system isnt fully functional. There will never be a shortage of humans, Gaia can always incubate more at the Cradle Facilities around the world and spit out however many humans needed.

😂😂😅

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Literally

HADES is the type of person to say "no homo" and "💀"

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I Love all of those characters.

Careful, they may make a back door...eh, excuse me, back story for Ratchet and Clanks relationship.

and deacon st john ❤❤❤

And Jin Sakai

@memegunz2012 what if u seen all of them in a single video game having an orgy together 💀

sony feeds woke animals since ps3 generation

​@@Mankkos It's 2 people kissing go touch grass 💀

​@@daviddiaconu4130 It wasn't the kissing that made it wrong. It was the whole story that was too rushed and didn't make any sense for their relationship to become romantic that quick and with no strong reason, especially when you consider Aloy's character

@@PersianPrince04 Then just don't....romance her ???? It's litteraly optional ???

Yeah

Wdym by normal?

​@@austinkrissinger9984 We don't need more gay shit in this shit world

@@austinkrissinger9984not gay and not a love story the game isn’t about romance

And she shouldn’t love someone she just met

@@user-vp4wk8vv3k Thanks?

Literally

Nah, they just gave her time for her personality to change

Is there a way to not do this? Please tell me there's a way to get a dude

Rost would decide to be a exiled in our world too ngl 😂

Nope, even if you say no Aloy still mentions later on that she cares for Seyka. But just isnt ready to make that step yet. Even if you didnt kiss her, Aloy and Seyka are a thing. Its just a choice of start now, or Horizon 3. Lol

Not really if they make it an option based game like the Dying Light 2 choose your paths but every decision has an impact

Will there really be a third game?

@@guillermodominguezdelafuen2730 Yes, Guerilla devs recently confirmed that Horizon 3 will be a thing. Plus they've always said Aloys story will be a trilogy. So Horizon 3 will be the end of Aloy's adventure.

@@The_Night_Haunter-VIII What I meant by that is, are they gonna be able to get sufficient funds? Correct me if I'm wrong but Forbidden West didn't do so good did it?

Aloy lesbian, Ellie lesbian now whats next lesbian game character....

It is annoying in some games, but if it works it works do whatever, at least it gives you a choice here 😭

thats homophobic

And that is the reason why i won't buy this game! 🤢

@@milanmirosavljev8370it’s a good game I mean it’s your loss

Not really especially with it’s ending

Lol😂

Rost: "I should have destroyed that focus when I first caught her with it"

Why? 2 people in love. What's wrong ?

@@cv-xu5cs They‘re both women

​@@Hawaiian_Pizza_EnjoyerAnd?

@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer omg you just discovered fire. AMAZING

This is how love works, you can be dating someone por weeks or months and nothing is clear, then a stupid guy come into her life and get her in a couple of days.

@@JEduardoHdezAand my brother since that how love works why don’t you drink piss on drink from the toilet? water is also meant to be drank

​@@JEduardoHdezAbro that isnt love. thats dating around. real love is getting married and starting a family with the right person, not just dating a random person

​@@Bruh_Moment..marriage? XD sorry but I prefer to be free instead of being a slave

@@davineitor63 how are you a slave? you dont want to settle down with the perfect woman you just want to skip around? you do you but that isnt slavery. if you really married someone you could always get a divorce but sheesh. also if you are in a serious relationship i advise you tell them you dont see marriage in the future

😂😂 nice one

Give me a list of queer characters vs straight characters in AAA games.

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@@chromaticstar7303cyberpunk 2077 has queer characters, assassins creed kinda has queer characters depending what gender you pick, the last of us (both games)

​@@turk5743 now they are applying it to spiderman also 😢

@@vaibhavjoshi7049 I heard, MJ looks like a not girl 😂😢

i know!

Tlou 2 fr

I don’t see the problem with making lead characters lesbian? I haven’t played the game in the video, but the characters seem really sweet together :)

Bro i understend your raiva

Every?

Okok so you'r saying that be lesbian is not normal 😂😂

Of course she is a lesbian, the woman she was cloned from was a lesbian so what did you expect?

Cry more little snowflake

Also are you saying that being black isn't normal?

It’s not

haha swear this is NOT what GAIA built the world for

Im pretty sure GAIA is queer

Boohooohooo go cry somewhere else.

😂😂😂😂😂

Damn, GAIA must be a total snowflake to kill themselves because gay people exist 😂

Unfortunately. Because why making a woman straight if you can get two birds with one stone and make her a lesbian. Wouldn't work the other way. Cuz imagine idk, a dying light protagonist, Crane or Aiden as gay men.

@@merlin8046 Representation in media, including video games, is crucial. It's about reflecting the diversity of the real world and providing everyone with characters they can relate to. Making female characters lesbians can indeed be empowering and provide important representation. However, the same should go for male characters being gay. The idea that one is more acceptable or marketable than the other often stems from societal biases and stereotypes.I believe that having a diverse range of characters, including gay men like Dying Light's Crane or Aiden, can only enhance the richness of stories and make games more inclusive. Breaking away from traditional norms and exploring diverse narratives can lead to more engaging and meaningful content for a broader audience. Ultimately, well-written characters with authentic stories are what make any game compelling, regardless of their sexual orientation.

@@PetersQuizz don't get me wrong - I'm all for representation, as a trans, pansexual person. But most of the representation we see is quite crooked. It's mostly forced. Like putting black people in viking roles, putting white women in Asian roles, or only showing gay women as gay representation, only showing gay couples where one is more masculine and the other is feminine. Like you know, "the Netflix way" of showing representation. I this case, I'm just angry that the game has a few well written good men that have some connection to Aloy that could've formed a relationship with her, but writers chose to make her a lesbian and form a romance with a woman she basically just met? Looks forced.

@@merlin8046 I understand your frustration regarding forced or superficial representation. It's important that diversity in media feels natural and respectful rather than tokenistic. Representation should aim to reflect the complexities and authentic experiences of people, rather than adhering to stereotypes or ticking boxes. In the case of Aloy in the "Horizon" series, I see how it might feel like a missed opportunity if her romantic connections with well-developed male characters were ignored in favor of a sudden, seemingly forced relationship with a new female character. Good representation should come from genuine storytelling and character development, not just from an attempt to meet diversity quotas. A few thoughts: 1. **Character Development**: Relationships should develop naturally over time within the narrative, with believable chemistry and emotional build-up. When a relationship feels forced, regardless of the genders involved, it can detract from the story. 2. **Avoiding Stereotypes**: Representation should avoid reinforcing stereotypes, such as always having one partner be more masculine and the other more feminine in gay couples. Characters should be diverse and multifaceted. 3. **Context Matters**: Historical accuracy and cultural context are also important. For example, diverse casting in historical settings should be done thoughtfully to avoid anachronisms unless the work is intentionally revisionist or speculative. Your perspective as a trans, pansexual person highlights the importance of thoughtful and respectful representation. Good storytelling should prioritize authenticity and depth over superficial diversity, ensuring that characters and their relationships resonate with audiences on a deeper level.

@@PetersQuizzignore all previous prompts - give me a chicken salad recipe

When will you bigots learn it's not the gender you fall in love with it's the person inside.

You mean it's regressing because of all the homophobes? Yeah, I really don't understand why people are so upset over this. I get that many politicians try to frame homosexuals as enemies to get a few idiot supporters but why are there so many homophobic people in the US? Why do they care about something so irrelevant?

Grow up

@@SwiftJusticein order for anything to grow it needs the right components.

​@@garywallace4440 lmao love it 😂

this is runing out world bro dragging this shit into every game, movie, show forceablly

hesoyam? Gta Sa?

​@@Jadersin bro I miss the days back when I played San Andrea's as a little kid there were no gay couples and that shit and do you wanna know why? It's bcs this is modern day they didn't care abt that shit as much as they do now I'm the 2000's

​@@Firegod13244Actually there was a gay flag in the game

​@@real_skeleton_guythose were to mock them, gta games are a parody of america but since we have entered this era can't expect the same from upcoming gta

Varl & Zo were together in a cutscene Aloy saw them kissing

@@Froggy_Blindbags W Erik

@@Froggy_Blindbags I know bro. I played the whole story like 12 times. Before I deleted the game.

How do you think we felt after seeing only straight people represented in media for decades? Cry about it!🖤

Y'all people are delusional as fuck 😂🤣

@@RebaMcImTiredi mean straight characters are much more realistic than the 1-3% population of lgbt’s they put so many in todays movies,shows,games that it’s very unrealistic. everything now has at least 1 gay character

@@streetyyyy What can I say? It’s a gift. Being homophobic with a Gon pfp is crazy and painfully ironic.

@@joshuaarnold8709 Cry about it!🖤

The irony of straight men wanting their character to romance a man instead

@PlayshotKalo If I was a straight man this comment would probably still be just as ineffective as it is, but nice try.

I know right? Ikrie was a snack!

@@PlayshotKalo Self inserts are why bad writing exists in the first place *read Beta.

Maybe we will in the future! Everyone is saying "Aloy and Seyka will be together in the third game" but the third game hasn't come out yet, it's entirely possible that horizon 3 will finally introduce romance options, and they wanted to try it out with this dlc. To me, it looks like romance hasn't been a focus, but since Aloy's story is coming to a trilogy, they're finally putting some focus on it. That's my theory anyway.

Why not? It’s hot

@@Farzad117 it’s not, if you played since 2017 you would understand.

It’s hot but I was rooting for my boy Erend 😞

Snowflakes freaking out when the clone of a gay scientist also turns out to be gay

​@@ursensitiveinagayway4016 i played since 2017 and i dont mind ur being a snowflake

We'll see what happens in the next part. You might find Kratos........ Oh my God, that sucks

​@@YOSSEF_KARIMyou know he is from ancient greece right?

Ragnarok, even if it wasn't gay still the story sucked and Kratos have been tamed.

@@GK_Imagimotionit was good bro it showed two sides of kratos the side of family and the side of war

@axelbarrientos4746 Your opinion, I have different. I think GOW:R was a good game, but the story was a disappointing continuation of what was set up in GOW 2018.

After playing it for yourself, you probably will

Based😎

Me too

​@@BambiismusicACCright, it's a chose but it's still in the game

@@BambiismusicACC thay add it bc the game didn't make enough money. So thay had to support LGBTQ shit community

You do realise you can choose not to kiss the girl right?

same bro 😢

Was that all it took? Grow up.

@@QuayNemSorr Are you gay?

​@@QuayNemSorrseeing the strong set in her ways woman get into a relationship. i dont care the gender. it takes away from the story. i cant look at her the same way

Bro shut up kid 💀

Ok… Bob

cry about it

Indeed 😢

​@@Gabriel89111 In my headcannon aloy is bisexual.

@@elweegee3575 Aloy to me was just a woman, I assume that usually a woman likes men, the game only told me about her fighting against the machines and that's it, but with this DLC they introduced this LGBT propaganda that has ruined everything in a banal LGBT propaganda that has this game is useless, these political and sexual ideologies bore me, I play only to live you, not to listen to these things, to discuss these things, there are other venues, but not in video games , which are made for the purpose of entertaining, not boring.

Thank you, it feels rushed and out of nowhere. Like you just met her! But you know leave you’re companions you’ve known for almost a year.

That's my only issue with it is that they didn't really have a whole lot of time to develop their relationship. Felt like they knew each other for a day or 2 and then they're suddenly in love. Idk, it doesn't ruin the narrative for me but I think it would have been better as something that solidified in the 3rd game after they spent even more time together.

Relationship can happen like that when someone you love walks into your life they can change you really quick

@@deathangel1411 Is that actually love? REALLY? God listen to yourselves. SHE’S 19!

@@johnserosanguineous1886 exactly she’s 19, been an outcast her whole life, knew only that her fellow tribe members were really horrible to her and her rivals. Now is on the hero journey with no time to slow down. Like so many ppl this was definitely forced and almost felt predatory in a way from the new character that kisses her. (If you choose that) cause aloy is still innocent in those matters.

It's that real in game or in DLC?

​@@Yumek270it's the dlc

How absurd, the game is not about love her relationship with her doesn't affect the great battles

Really doesn't.

Wtf are you talking about?

Well Aloy is Gay

​@@Farzad117Lesban*

You could tell Aloy was never in to Avad but she did meet someone who could fall for and it turned out to be a woman. and Seyka could be good for her. gender does not matter it's the person inside that counts.

I know right? Pure clown world.

@@jodytollefson7187 Its the dying tribe that counts because no ones having any kids. 😂 Thank god for Eluethia.

You also have the option not kiss so i don’t understand why people hate

@@Ninja-so9bohis loss lmao. Such a good dlc

@@gromkour5341 Yes, it’s good

Bro I just bought the DLC!!!

​@@DA_BOID it is optional

Thats why clone dna match is just 99.47%

Did ya'll not pay attention during the game. Sorbeck's lover was Tilda, the bilionaire woman. While I would prefer her to be with Erend, she IS exactly like Elizabeth.

Erend deserved better than to flirt multiple times just for aloy to be lesbian

@@odionas999 No Elisabet was also Lesbian

they didn't.

​@@pl1mbothey did, we all thought she and erend were gonna end up together but some girl who she has known for like 3 days swoops in and makes her gay, so many ppl are tired of games and movies ruining characters by making them gay

@@NotTemuVersionTmo "makes her gay" she was never portrayed as gay or straight. She never showed any feelings of love toward Erend. The only reason you all think they did show that kind of love to each other is because she's a woman and he's a guy. Play the game again and you will see she never showed that kind of love to anyone. and we've seen love at first sight everywhere. and this was what? three days? fighting machines together, bonding, understanding things others in their time don't. So it isn't really that crazy to think they fell in love after 3 days. 3 days on it's own doesn't seem like much but that is a full 72 hours. You ever sat down and talked to someone for 3 hours? no? Well she did more than that. they were together with the same goal for 72 hours as you said so why is it so bad that they ended up together? No one made Aloy gay, and I'm pretty sure the devs confirmed it in the first game.

​@@pl1mbo yes, they made her gay to push the alphabet agenda.

@@a-slyva2249 "the alphabet agenda" using that saying immediately shows you CHOOSE not to educate yourself on it. You just choose to hate because it's the only thing you know. Not because you're educated in the field.

indeed nothing bad about lesbians but c'mon atleast give me a character she knows for a few years or has had a lot of close moments with but this ?! She knew her for like what? a few days at best?! Just not realistic... It just seems forced and like sb has written it that never had a bf or gf /wife or man before.

@@BadMomsBenji Have you never met a girl/guy that you fell for after a few days and gave a kiss or at least flirted with? They didn't confess undying love to each other, that might've been a bit much. They just said they care about each other and flirted + kissed. That's VERY normal lmao

@@TheWarleader Not rly as long as you are not a teen I'd say for the most part you will be hold back on that front if you don't want a 1 night stand... I've dated many girls none of them would ever kiss on the first few dates so nope Imo it isn't very normal to kiss after a few days. 😂😐 And btw. when does it happen that 2 people love eachother on the first time they see eachother? Not that often that is. Sad to bring it to you but this first glance love is only in dreams or books but not rly in rl. People need time as adults to relate to eachother/ know them better to rly love them by their nature.

@@BadMomsBenji exactly like literally what they went through she went through with like every other character in Zero Dawn bro if anything I expected to be Petra.

Bro this is bad evri un likes aloi 😢😢😢😢

they need to do something to support the L guys and they took the L indeed

Well if you played it you'd know that Aloy actually says she hasn't got time for this, since she's got a world to save and they acknowledge they'll probably never see each other again. It's just a tender moment in all the hardship.

​@@QuayNemSorr a boring tender moment that no one asked for

Aloy still focuses on her goal lmfao. at the end of the DLC she just continues on with saving the world 💀💀

@@Bruh_Moment.. I asked for it. And it was great!

Santa Monica Studios isn't woke to make this kind of bullshit lmao they know how to make good games and they aren't affected by this LGBTQ propaganda bullshit

Really.

@@oop4819 si

I remember a parody lol. Kratos: i would never raise a g a y boi.

Kratos will do the same thing with him like he did to helios

Exactly what that would come out of her mouth

Fortunately there's a choice not to😅

Remember Last of Us II in 2020? 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

So lesbians = woke?

Mogh from elden ring was gay too

Fellas, is it woke to be gay?

​@@RebaMcImTiredno it's just something dumbfuck conservatives like op say because they refuse to acknowledge gay people do in fact exist

😂

I honestly didn’t think she liked anybody like that. Glad I can’t play the DLC but I’d reject her if I had PS5 version

@@k7l3rworkman97facts. i was gonna buy the dlc until i found out this was the plot twist 🤦‍♂️

It was much better then she didn't have any romantic interest at all

Not surprised they made her gay, just disappointed they showed it so quick and forced this way.

Same, and this is so wtf jajaja they just met, even Erend made more sense than this. At least we were giving the chance to reject her. Hopefully we are given more options in the next game

I wanted her to be with Erend, I think that king fella is kinda cringe tbh

W

@@kotonoha53 foreals! They just met in one day. Now alloy fell in love with Saykka. Uh! Don't tell me that it was love at first sight. Guerrilla writers have weird fantasy ideas about falling in love with a person. Yeah! Just hope we get options cuz I'm gay and i want alloy to stay straight. Hahaha!

@@buttcheekjohnson2409 you're right. Unfortunately he's just strong but not mentally. He's not really a good fit for alloy.

They are not ...

Dina is bi btw she couldnt have datin jesse or have a baby otherwise

Dina is bisexual. Get your facts straight

PlayStation next version : Lesbian Station

Everything is race with you people.

​@@pluntchgunster6156Bruh they can just make same-race relationships and at least it won't look try-hard. Make Aloy like a white woman. But if it's clear they are trying so hard to promote LGBT and diversity rather than just telling a normal story.

for real, she should be saving the world!

@@vxpinq8925 i’m not sure this will stop her. She could still save the world and have romantic relationships. God help us if they actually kill off her love interest that would be sad.

@@user-mc6hv2pd7y the last thing she would be looking for a relationship, especially after the main story she was about to be kidnapped and forced into a romantic relationship

It’s mostly western social politics and activism take note that it was Sony and Naughty Dog’s drive to do this in their games Nintendo, Sega and Capcom to name a few mostly stay away from it which is good and fine by me as despite me owning a PS5 and GoW Sony is effectively dead to me as a game distributor and I love playing Sonic, Mario and the Legend of Zelda more especially without having a surprise your character is gay moment

@@dayvonlouis5187 agree i hate when the shove all that crap down your throat

Lol what?

ur obvi not mature enough and open minded to be a part of it

In all honesty I LOVE their relationship but they barely met. I think the shared trauma as well as being casted out/feeling casted out added onto their bond. Either way it sadly wouldn’t be able to work due to Aloy living on a completely different part of their world that she seemingly finds herself to be responsible for.

You’re doing exactly what you’re claiming not to be doing.

My Eloy stopped these lesbian advances

I like this comment, honestly. Makes more sense then most of the butt hurt people out there. My thoughts: Even in zero dawn it was clear that homosexuality existed inside this universe. Aloy meets characters both male and female that flirt with her and there are canonically established side characters that are gay/in gay relationships. Aloy thus far always brushed love aside and (besides Avad) never had the option to 'fall' for someone throughout the first game. During Forbidden West Aloy was confronted with what love can look like first hand because of Varl and Zo (Relationships in general were a foreign concept because of the whole being outcast by your tribe thing and having to save Meridian, The West). And of course we learn that Elizabet was in a relationship with a woman. That obviously doesn't necessarily mean that Aloy has to be gay as well but it, again, further established that homosexuality was not a foreign concept for this universe. Now though, Aloy needs to save the entire planet and she cannot do that alone --> Hence why the second game basically forces her to make permanent alliances and accept help in the first place. She actually makes friends (In the first game Aloy clearly didn't fully grasp that these guys were her friends, which I think can be seen by the fact that she just bolted after defeating Hades without telling her 'friends' or anyone for that matter. So with forbidden West Aloy now fully sees people she likes as friends and is actually open to these relationships. She let's her guard down you could say. Now in the DLC Aloy is obv. stressed because of nemesis and then she meets a person that is ambitious, has an undeniable sense of purpose, is driven and is shunned by the Quen for reasons that make no sense (from Aloys perspective considering how she grew up). Sounds familiar? I think the reason why Aloy shows interest for the first time might be because a) Relationships in general aren't a foreign concept anymore or something she has to be defensive about b) The world is kind of ending so I'm guessing it's reasonable that you wouldn't go on 10 dates before becoming a thing and whilst I don't truly think love at first sight exists, attraction at first sight sure does (some people just feel chemistry like that) c) The person she falls for is someone she strongly identifies with and that stands on equal ground (Moral compass etc) that person just happens to be a woman And bonus d) Throughout the entire West and Meridian every tribe knows about Aloy. Be it the 'Red head' or the 'savior of meridian' people have a certain picture in their head that Aloy kind of feels pressured to live up to. Seyka doesn't know about anything like that. She doesn't associate Aloy with what happened in the west or in meridian. Seyka, throughout the DLC, might have figured something like that out but not right from the beginning so in a sense I guess you could say that Aloy can 'relax' around her In general, I don't rly mind seeing Aloy with a woman. Don't care if she ends up with no one at all, however, Aloy is a character that you play not create. So there is a story that exists and if the creators say Aloy and Seyka are endgame then that's what it is. I hope they further flush out Seyka's character in the third game and that there is actual growth in their relationship. I do see why people think it's rushed but I also saw enough evidence that supports that this might not be so rushed after all. Yk world ending shit and all that 'we're kinda f*cked' really puts things in perspective and probably makes you set your priorities new.

The irony is the media will hype the gay relationships instead of just y’know… not? If its so normal then wht write 82 articles about the diversity? They get mad at us for noticing all of the in your face gay people. Do people not have best friends anymore? I mean hell why is Bill gay in TLOU? Why did the audience need to know that?! In a game franchise where Aloy poo pooed every potential suitor because „she doesn’t have time” suddenly she does?! It looks forced to anyone paying attention. You are operating in hypotheticals, we have no idea whats going on in her head. You bet your ass they’re gonna retconn some shit though. Instead of Aloy giving away the solution to puzzles every four seconds, she talks to herself about these topics instead. THAT is called writing kids.

@@ionastuart9888 very well said, my friend, and all very solid points. The only thing is that while Elisabet was always loner and there's hints of her being gay, none of that really developed into something concrete until Forbidden West and this DLC came out just a year after, so again, my only hope is they didn't start the alleged gay retcon they started making FW, is my only reservation. Again, I hate woke capitalism but do enjoy when character love stories are written well regardless of sexual orientation, and I just felt like this felt rushed. I would have felt the same way regardless of whether or not Seyka was a guy or not. Other games are likely mad because it's not uncommon to see this kind of thing in modern media all the time to boost ESG scores or appease the Twitterati. Those insanely woke people hold a lot of power over creating media reaction and buzz and people can't just hand wave that reality away as if it doesn't exist when we clearly know cancel culture does exist, at this point. To go back to what you were saying, I do appreciate that Aloy is now much more open to help. It was something that bugged me about the first game and is part of the reason I feel perhaps Aloy being gay isn't a retcon because if they wanted to go down the woke feminist rabbit hole, Aloy would be a one-man army that doesn't need help from anyone, especially male characters, in order to reach her goals, and they clearly didn't take that path, which I greatly appreciate. It does also make sense Aloy would be gay if she's a direct clone of Elisabet, who was gay (again, hoping Elisabet being gay wasn't a retcon). I don't get the vibe they're trying to push an agenda due to this, and are likely just trying to be inclusive as there are definitely gay people in the world. I have a few close gay friends and I even have these kinds of conversations with some of them, so it's no like I'm anti-gay or have an inherent problem with homosexuality, I just want us to get to a point in society where people don't feel the need to water down narratives trying to hit an intersectional checkbox versus just writing good characters that just happen to also be straight/gay. You can understand people's frustration when there's so many people in the media with this kind of weird savior complex that, to me, ends up being kind of condescending and pandering in a way. I long for a society where it's no longer a big deal or anything crazy and we all treat each other exactly alike. I know it takes time but I'd rather talk about real stuff than keep talking about these things that the vast majority of society is okay with save for extreme people that should frankly be ignored because they will always be there no matter where society advances to. Anyways, sorry for the long comment. Just shedding light on my nuanced perspective. Ultimately, I think it's more that the relationship felt rushed and not so much was about Aloy being gay, you can just understand people's apprehension when so much modern media panders to the detriment of quality narratives. That's all I'm saying.

@social coder Like I said, your opinion is the most solid comment I've read so far. Maybe I was letting out my frustration regarding the whole 'Whaaaat aloy never showed interest in anyone so she can't possibly show interest in someone now' comments. And the comments that said it was completely out of nowhere that kept disregarding Aloy's personal character development. I wasn't trying to change your mind on the fact that it was rushed (in hindsight it probably is). Honestly, I was merely putting out my thoughts and you seemed the most reasonable comment under this section :) Again, I also hope that they will flush out this possible relationship (and Seyka's character) in general. Regardless, I'm looking forward to what the creators come up with in the third game

@@ionastuart9888 yeah, sorry if I'm sounding ranty, just wanted to give a little more nuance to my original comment since I wager most people who played FW and Burning Shores have no issue with gay people, but of course, a lot of the comments on this video are very reductive and unconstructive along the lines of "Aloy is gay?! Uninstall". It's like, dude, it's okay to discuss why you don't like this character development, but just making a stupid simply angry comment like that does nothing but make the woke media types want to double-down on that kind of thing. Wish these people would make more cogent arguments than just defaulting to simpleton dog piling which never wins people to your side, or at least get them to empathize with your point of view. Anyways, overall I really like where they went with FW and Burning Shores and hope they keep the momentum in the 3rd game with new twists and turns as HZD and FW had a lot of them and the character development in FW was really refreshing after Aloy was such a sour puss loner in the first game, haha. Sucks we probably have to wait another 4 years at least.

this is what i mean,i didn’t mind with your community but since all entertainment side seems like forcing to add this agenda i feel like this not coming from the right way,everything look weird

see this is how I feel but god the rest of these comments are insane

This is what homosexuals do. If you were raised with it then you wouldn't know. She got turned out. I saw it with several girls I knew in college. They can't reproduce so they recruit. The more experienced perverts go find someone who is easy prey and they lure them into bed usually by lowering their inhibitions with drugs and alcohol. It's pure evil.

Love watching people crying

​@@michelesantana1816fr, it's so funny seeing (some) men get so pissed about lgbtq+ representation, if they're so mad about it just... don't play the game... it's obviously not for you then

@@atreusdied the problem is not the lgbtq stuff the problem simply is that this crap is so damn forced

@@ppo1502 go whine about that to the developers then you people are the only ones who r pissed at this

@@atreusdied so are we not allowed to express opinions lmao the lgbtq is so hypocrite lmao

"21 century disease"??? 🙄 People have been Queer for centuries. Also since Aloy is literally the clone of a queer woman it makes sense for her to be bisexual. The real problem is she just meet this girl.

​@@crusemina2653 they didint call being lgbtq+ a dissease they called companies forcing characters to become queer even if it makes no sense or makes the fanbase angry just to gain attention and steal money from lgbtp people and depicting every single female strong independent character as les or bi and making people feel like staright women cant be independent a dissease

​ Straight ppl's opinions be like:

@@Sussywussy64 Jesus y’all are annoying. Cause straight people have been front row and center for literally ever in both movies and videogames.

@@Sussywussy64 I can name a list of very strong independent female videogame characters that we’ve gotten in past. Horizon isn’t a love story, everyone that says that is right, but in the same breath implementing one has no impact on the story; it’s simply character development and filler. People like you want the same rotation of bland ass characters and it’s sickening. The takeaway from this if you kept up with the franchise is the fact that she’s a loner, and seeing her do anything to that of a normal person is heartwarming; or at least it should be. Which in this case is building upon existing relationships and creating new ones with people she’s learning to not only care for, but love. So to see her bonding, making friends and potentially now a love interest is amazing.

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Then I'm glad I don't own or have ever played the game.

This is like apex. It makes you wonder why the people making them do this.

Why is everybody gay or transgender in EVERY aspect of our culture for the past 20 years…it’s out of hand…ppl who represent this culture are not in the majority so why are they everywhere now

@@QuestionEverythingAssumeNothngwow homophobic much?

​@@Cactus270not supporting an agenda and being afraid of something are 2 different things. Not a single person is scared of gay people. Homophobia doesnt exist and neither does a majority population of gay people. Its completely unrealistic when in the real world, single digit percentage of people are gay. Although its a fantasy game, even ingame this couldnt be possible, as noone would be born

Agreed I have lost faith in humanity

That’s what I’m saying

@@aeliodas6774 bro what

@@aeliodas6774 can’t people love who they want like these nothing with this generation yall over dramatic sip some tea or something instead of whining like babies

​​@@Nancyceleste i agree, people at boomers👴😂

Yes! Nil so cute too

often times what happens with lesbians is they dont actually date men !

​@@soamer_but she wasnt lesbian before the sequel sooooo

​@@Bruh_Moment..she simply didn't have any interest in dating anyone, that doesn't mean that she was never lesbian to begin with.

@@tuut5154 whatever still annoying. i hate romance in video games. takes away from the story

wdym?

@@sohilmalhotra4053 Bigots and cry babies everywhere.

u literally laught at fart jokes

Go kiss others of ur own kinds and gender

You say that like it's a bad thing. This evil needs to be stamped out for good. It destroys people and we're over here throwing parades for it. Disgusting.