No he did not

i mean the dude did say "not even your precious alpha could control them" when talking about his Deathgrippers that were drugged with there own venom so that means toothless has some kind of control also he commanded that one big island dragon to go back to sleep

@@eliseosborne5318didn’t he summon all dragons to leave the human world

@@duyhungle9375 Yea all the dragons did realize that they were going to be set free before toothless roared, but they are very intelligent, and could probably tell when Astrid took Stormfly's saddle off.

I'd say no. One, hive mind "mind control," seems to be the Bewilderbeast specific trait. And Toothless is shown to be emotionally intelligent, which isn't a stretch considering real animals like orcas have the brain age of a 16 year old human, so I'd say he would outright refuse to use mind control even if he possessed it because he has felt its hold and been abused by it himself. I'd say what actually happens is simply respect - he asks or "commands" the other dragons to do things and they follow out of respect for their alpha - afterall any of them could openly challenge Toothless if they so wished. He also clearly doesn't abuse any power he has, the scene where he's playing with Hiccup's leg and Stormfly tries to take it - he could easily command her to shove it, but he allows her to mess with him because they have a friendship of sorts. He has relationships and family, therefore has morals, similar to Hiccup who won his tribe over with his ideals and mindset rather than by brute force and fear. They respect him as he found a peaceful solution to the violence.

Perhaps its an attitude thing. It seems some of the Alpha Species are more Benevolent and calm, while some are aggressive, territorial, or naturally lazy. If you think of them like the seven sins, some are wrathful, prideful, or slothful (?). Just like some CEO's/bosses are nice, and some are not.

If you consider their phone game lore canon it's the individual dragons that are good or bad leaders, not their specific type as the first titan you gain as an ally is another red death nicknamed green death for less confusion.

I like this idea 9f there being two types on Alphas, Helpful and Parasitic alphas, where the Red Death is a Parasitic who forces dragons to only feed it and forget all about their own hunger or is like a tyrant who killed multiple dragons and made a hive of fear to get more food

It's just personality of alpha dragon. Drago's bewilderbeast was far different alpha compared to valka's bewilderbeast. One was mind controlling and stuff like red death meanwhile one was respected

Yeah I don’t think the red death has the mind control like the bewilderbeast, it controls via fear but it can still use low frequencies to communicate at longer distances

I feel as though toothless did in fact gain the hive mind ability. I believe this because when you see the bewilderbeast and drago’s bewilderbeast using the ability, the spikes all over their body will quiver, as if the vibrations mesmerise the dragons they wish to control. When toothless calls back the dragons from drago’s bewilderbeast’s control, the flaps and toothless’ back also shook, and the blue glow pulsated, as if trying to mesmerise the dragons that it wished to command.

@@longpete9917 That ability is bound to the species, it cannot "magically transfer" from one species to another. That would be like saying if a Monstrous Nightmare fought a Deadly Nadder in a fight and won, it'd acquire the nadder's spine shot ability. That isn't how it works; especially since magic is confirmed to not exist, dragons can't just *steal* another dragon species' abilities after defeating them.

Why the nadder

You know ziz is a griffin right

isnt the submaripper the biggest tracker class dragon

@@obama7324 Wouldn't the Submaripper go in the Tidal class and for that matter wouldn't the Nadder be in the Sharp class? If anything, the Rumblehorn should be the biggest of the Trackers.

I thought a rumblehorn would be the biggest of tracker?

Good point.

Deathsong is interesting as it is able to make a sound that could counteract, but i feel you may be right some dragons may not respond as theres less likely meet ups between say a bewilderbeast and a cavern crasher, i assume they're is a genetic drive to listen to a alpha, as when i do a family tree video bewilderbeast looks like the first dragon species to exist

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Alpha shadowing a tracker?

@@MyFourPhasesI think if you look closely during the evil bewilderbeast scene and at all the dragons swarming around, you can see a deathsong in there

Glad it was helpful!

the red bewilderbeast was a titan wing

@@jevil8381 it’s not, it’s the same size as the other bewilderbeast, it simply has a different colorization

@@Conjac239 it was younger

To me it looks more like the night fury and light Fury are more similar to breeds than toothless being a titan wing while the others aren't😅

Well thank you or being constructively nice, as i say its all interpretation, i just think it would be weird for a existing alpha to go alpha mode but i suppose its different!

we could discuss this over discord?

yes)

what discord do you have?

@@Junrossa2115 join the server, link in description

@@MyFourPhases question : is purple death an alpha

His bewilderbeast I'm pretty sure

Yeah thats just the name they get given, as i explained, i don't think so either, symbiotix relationships is such a uniqueness for these dragons

Yamata no Orochi isn't in either httyd universe

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Hello

@@MyFourPhases hi

Bewilder beast became the king after the red death then the evil bewilderbeast then toothless

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I'm sorry to hear you didn't enjoy the video!

​@@MyFourPhaseshe was referring to your lack of skill of explaining and general incompetence not just the video

@@terrymortal5517think you could do better. He is a smallish Chanel that not many know about and he is trying to explain the best he can. No need to be rude to channels (unless it’s a green screen kid)

I dare you to make this vid better+ you give them money by commenting and boost the channel by commenting so you are helping them by trying to be mean

@@MyFourPhasesdon’t listen to them. You are a good Chanel and this vid has most likely made so many people sub