Alpha Systems SuperFlex RV Roof Installation (Part 2) Gluing New Membrane & Resealing Trim/Flashing
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See the Part 1 video - Disassembly and Removing Old Material - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb2Wic511NWoo6c.html
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Disclaimer: Love Your RV! received the Alpha Systems product samples free of charge from Lippert for the installation & review.
In part two, I install the new SuperFlex roof membrane from Alpha Systems. I'll also reinstall and seal the trim and flashing with various Alpha Systems sealants. Under the flashing, I use their butyl tape. On the roof seams, I used the self-leveling lap sealant. And on the sidewalls, I used the non-sag sealant for vertical surfaces.
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@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
*See the Part 1 video* - Disassembly and Removing Old Material - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb2Wic511NWoo6c.html Link to all the Alpha Systems Products on the Lippert Website - www.loveyourrv.com/AlphaSystems
@rickstills6716 3 жыл бұрын
I sure wish you were in charge of Quality assurance at Keystone.
@BC-te9ow 3 жыл бұрын
That looks absolutely fantastic. Man I wish I could end up camping next you somewhere. I would love to bounce ideas off you and ask your opinion on different things. How was there not a group of guys standing around out there watching. School was definitely in session.
@fishdog61 3 жыл бұрын
Ray you are one ☝️ of the most meticulous people that I have ever watched. But your videos are the best!! 👍 cheers 🥂
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@richardmarquardt6246 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job! From appearances it looks to be easier than I would have thought. Of course you were doing the work, not me, so you know best.
@pete8401 Жыл бұрын
The la awsome works so good it takes the paint off with it.
@paulnelson134 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad that you are as handy as you are. I don’t need to replace any part of my roof covering yet but when I do I will use this video as my guide. Thanks Ray!
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@LanceMcCormick 3 жыл бұрын
That was lot of work! Nice Job! Would of cost some funds at a shop!
@willymueller4587 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Ray , a ton of work ,don’t think I could do that
@redwards2006 3 жыл бұрын
Ray, you are a man’s man DIY’er 👍
@brunobarks6544 3 жыл бұрын
Like always brother, great video. Thanks again for the calm voice. Hope your wife still has improving Health. Ill be watching. 2 years until retirement. YAY. Lol
@ceciliapetrowsky2572 3 жыл бұрын
You never cease to amaze Ray. You make everything look so easy. Great job!
@tommcl386 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great!!! Ann does great work.
@raybbj 3 жыл бұрын
Forget the new roof. I was diggin' your choice of background music. Super Funky !!!
@littlejohnny4470 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason or another, when you had that funky music playing in the background while you were installing the new roof material, it reminded me of the song Superfly, from Issac Hayes. So I thought, there he is Super Ray doin' more incredible repairs to his aging RV. Makin' the old new again! Keep on Truckin' brother!!
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
haha!
@robertburgess6100 3 жыл бұрын
That looks great Ray!
@toddmcgowan9449 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Job! Very professional.
@thedavidrichman 3 жыл бұрын
You've gotta run out of improvements soon! You spend way more time and money on your rv than I feel like I do on my sticks and bricks! Great job!
@phase3d 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice job! Thanks for the great video!
@pigybak 3 жыл бұрын
thats a lot of hard work. good job👍🏻
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Nice work.
@landstormer4884 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a job well done. Thanks for posting this work.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, lots of work but feel good about the slide now.
@kiwimajic1 3 жыл бұрын
Electrical tape some towels to the ladder to stop damage to the roof edge
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Foam pool noodles work pretty good too. Cheers, Ray
@snowsail1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@craig3818 3 жыл бұрын
Your the man, you make things look easy. I can't wait to get out camping, still in full lockdown in Ontario 😠
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Man that sucks, I sure hope the vaccines can get this thing under control.
@ShouldersMoondog549 3 жыл бұрын
Looks good Ray!! Nice job!! Lets see how it looks in 6 months!!
@texasproud3332 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Ray yep LA Awesome the best dollar store cleaner on the market
@thebikejournal0303 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Looks great.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@tbamagic 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice job...you did a heroic job. I'd be trying coatings, tape..... or Craig's List
@coreymerritt7742 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job ray i resealed my trailer 2 years ago the windows I used a small chisel dug out the old butyl and used rv pro flex been fine also check out lepage quad max exterior window and door works great on the trailer
@DennisWintjes2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Ray. Like #9
@amigadad 3 жыл бұрын
Nice workmanship! Hopefully it will last longer than the edpm material.
@vdubing01 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna be you when I grow. 😆 Very good work. 👍
@thinkford 3 жыл бұрын
Slide awnings are the way to go in my opinion
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Some like them for ease of cleaning, but we spend a lot of time in really windy areas where they become a pain, the ocean coast and the desert and not much under trees or snow and we just have the one slide to deal with. So for me they have more cons then pros. They add extra hardware screwed into the rig to maintain and the awning material wears out as well and needs to be replaced. I think I'd rather just replace the roof membrane every 10-15 years or so since a person still has to do the sidewall seals no matter what. Cheers, Ray.
@neilrankin9945 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray! You complete so many projects on your rig, I’m wondering how you track all your repairs and upgrades? I use a spreadsheet which includes project completion date, labour and parts costs.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
I have a huge video library and a blog with all the posts. I often use my website search if I need to know stuff I forgot. :)
@JohnGoldsmith07 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Ray. You make it look so easy, I'm almost tempted to try it myself. The true sign of an expert. I do have just one question. Is there a reason why you don't have a slide topper? Interested to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks again.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, John. That is an often asked question and here as my thoughts. Toppers have pros and cons, personally, I'd rather not have a topper, I just have one slide. We often camp in very high winds during our normal winters in the desert and travels on the west coast. The flapping would be annoying and worrying about them being ripped off. Plus the added cost and maintenance. I think I'd rather change the membrane every 10 years or so than deal with the slide topper and extra hardware. :) Maybe if I camped under trees a lot or in high heat I'd think about having one for shade. But for me there isn't a compelling reason to bother with one. Slide toppers can also be an issue in the snowy weather if the wind blows the snow under and it then melts and refreezes and creates an ice dam under the topper. I've heard various pro and con opinions on them from people over the years that have them and have personally watched people have to use all sorts of methods to tie them down or have to bring the slides if strong winds kick up. One guy I spoke to in an RV Park in Mojave, CA, told me he lost all 4 of his slide toppers when a 100 mph gust came through. Each to their own but not something that I plan on adding to the rig. Maybe when I'm older and less agile and can no longer clear the roof I'll want one. Cheers, Ray
@Mech7.3 2 жыл бұрын
Use Henry’s Tropi-cool roof coating. I just used it on mine and it’s awesome.
@LoveYourRV 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to inspect under the slide roof membrane and fix any problems there may be with the wood boarding so decided to replace rather than cover it with a coating. Cheers, Ray
@herb7877 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done ! Do you ever catch any static from park hosts or managers for doing work on you rig(s) ?? Back a few years when we had our class "A" motorhome I was changing my oil and received a lecture from the park manager. I had it all contained in a drain pan that had a sealed lid. I even had a large piece of cardboard down incase of any drips. None occurred and I was less than 30 minutes from start to fully cleaned up. Took the oil to an auto parts place that recycles as well.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
So far I haven't had any issues, but I kind of feel out a place before doing stuff and always discuss what I'm going to be doing with my immediate RV neighbors and only if I get the feeling they will be cool with it. Usually I'll work when they are away. This is our 8th summer at this RV Park so I know it and the people running it pretty well now. Cheers, Ray
@waynecap5960 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and all the maintenance that you do I was curious why you don't like slide Toppers to protect your slides ?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :) Toppers have pros and cons, personally, I'd rather not have a topper, I just have the one slide. We often camp in very high winds during our normal winters in the desert and travels on the west coast. The flapping would be annoying and worrying about them being ripped off. Plus the added cost and maintenance. I think I'd rather change the membrane every 10 years or so than deal with the slide topper and extra hardware. :) Maybe if I camped under trees a lot or in high heat I'd think about having one for shade. But for me there isn't a compelling reason to bother with one. Slide toppers can also be an issue in the snowy weather if the wind blows the snow under and it then melts and refreezes and creates an ice dam under the topper. I've heard various pro and con opinions on them from people over the years that have them and have personally watched people have to use all sorts of methods to tie them down or have to bring the slides if strong winds kick up. One guy I spoke to in an RV Park in Mojave, CA, told me he lost all 4 of his slide toppers when a 100 mph gust came through. Each to their own but not something that I plan on adding to the rig. Maybe when I'm older and less agile and can no longer clear the roof I'll want one. Cheers, Ray
@billbaker4970 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Ray. What about a slide topper to help protect the slide?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'd rather change the membrane every 10 years or so than deal with the slide topper and extra hardware. :) Probably cheaper and they are a pain in the wind. I always see people tying them down.
@williambynack4752 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Its a lot of work but I bet it saves a lot of money doing it yourself. I can't imagine doing the roof with the ac and solar not to mention the bathroom vents and all. How long did it take to do the slide?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
I spent 3 days about 4 hours a day at it. Most of the time is the prep work getting all the old sealant off the surfaces. :)
@TerrydeAlaska 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Job Ray! Did you ever consider replacing the roof with flat metal roofing? There is a guy in Georgia that does just that and it seems to be more of permeant fix. He also does a commercial roof job on the main roof with welded seams and not Dicor. It looks way more professional and long lasting.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
No, but sounds like a good idea. A friend of mine built a fifth wheel from scratch and used metal 2smoc9hdrhc9eko13nc-cdn.plushcontent.com/uploads/files/s0/3rs5i7bkp45qqofy.jpg forum.loveyourrv.com/discussion/821/construction-pictures-of-our-mobile-homestead-home-on-wheels
@TerrydeAlaska Ай бұрын
@@LoveYourRV The link doesn't work Ray!
@LoveYourRV Ай бұрын
@@TerrydeAlaska The forum was shut down a few months ago, so the content is gone now. You can find his video channel here kzfaq.info
@vegasfordguy 3 жыл бұрын
How has the eternabond tape hold up from years ago when you installed it? Would you use it again versus dicor?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Held up well, lots of it has been up there for 6 1/2 years now with no maintenance needed other than an inspection once and a while. Can't imagine how Dicor would look by now or the work it would have taken to maintain it. Here are my videos www.loveyourrv.com/?s=eternabond If you do the job properly and pay special attention to surface prep if holds well. I'd do it again but do know it may affect the roof warranty but likely they'd blame poor maintenance of Dicor anyway. I have heard that it may not do as well in extreme hot temps like say Arizona during the summer but we only visit in the winters and summer up north so rarely see temps over 90F Cheers, Ray
@toddbishop9546 3 ай бұрын
Looks great. A couple of questions. How long did it take you from start to finish? Do you know how much the kit cost and where to get it ? Thanks Todd
@LoveYourRV 3 ай бұрын
3-4 hours, basically did it in an afternoon. Most of the work/time is the surface cleaning prep. Here is the official distributor page www.lippert.com/brands/alpha-systems You can also sometimes find it on Amazon amzn.to/3Q3p7SC $65 for the adhesive and $75 for the coating. More if the roof is larger. Here was my review update and recoat video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pa1ygc-Ivq7Id6c.html Still holding up well. Cheers, Ray
@joeblow3939 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍 Ray, did you condition the seals around the slide to keep them soft?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I usually do them a couple times a year. The sweeps are still in good shape but I noticed the outside bulb seals are getting a little ragged so have new ones on order, but haven't arrived yet.
@seanschlegel1714 2 жыл бұрын
How's the glue holding up I'm getting ready to use the 8010 on my pvc roof that I'm going to install on my 25ft toe behind
@LoveYourRV 2 жыл бұрын
Holding up great. so far no issues. Just returned from a 6 month trip to the USA southwest and back. Cheers, Ray
@rhuaustin9004 Жыл бұрын
i see that you staples the rubber roof to the sides above the molding. wont the staples leak water .what covers the staples.? thank you
@LoveYourRV Жыл бұрын
There are metal flashings that cover the stapled areas. Butyl tape is placed under them, and they are screwed on. Then the edges get sealant applied. You can see the finished look here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a515g6lmzrnRiJs.html In the part one video, I showed myself removing the flashings kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gb2Wic511NWoo6c.html Cheers, Ray
@davidgates5337 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Might ask your previous profession?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was an electronic repair technician, mainly consumer stuff like TVs and stereos, etc.
@TheMinnow101 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that one needed to use a heavy roller to get the material to firmly attach to the substrate?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
This is what the instructions said: Apply water based adhesive, #8010 or #8011, in a wet film thickness of 8-10 mils with a paint roller or brush to the exposed half of the roof deck. (1 gal. will cover approximately 160-200 sq ft.) 8. Lay the roof membrane over the wet #8010 or #8011 adhesive. 9. Before removing air pockets with a squeegee (gray neoprene head will not streak), the membrane must be lifted and pulled taut from each of the four corners of the roof. The membrane needs to be adjusted both in width (side to side) and length (front to rear) to ensure the roof is as flat as possible before the squeegee process. 10. Remove all air pockets with a squeegee; press firmly working from the center outward toward the edges. All wrinkles must be removed at this point for a quality installation. The roof will tighten and conform as the adhesive cures. alphallc.us/wp-content/uploads/Superflex-Roof-Written-Installation-Instructions-with-1021.pdf Here is a video demo - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5yCasJi1rHKm58.html
@ldcooper1 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the set up time of the adhesive?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
It seem pretty short to get really tacky maybe a 20-30 mins but seems like it needed a day or so to really setup. I imagine to will vary depending on the temp.
@kbarbr Жыл бұрын
@@LoveYourRV I did a test with the Alpha 8010 adhesive, as I need to replace a 3ft x 8ft section of Superflex TPO. Even in 65 degree weather it dried to tackiness in less than 10min - which kind of alarmed me as I hadn't even grabbed the TPO yet. Alpha implies you want it wet for a bit so you can position the TPO. When I called them about it they said they recommend, and I should have bought - the slower drying 8011 - even though months before they'd confidently recommended the 8010. But with 8010 in tackiness state, does it seem like the TPO still works/adheres ?
@LoveYourRV Жыл бұрын
@@kbarbr Yes was pretty easy to apply and reposition. The roof has been on for about 2 years and has no signs of lifting or bubbling anywhere. Still firmly glued down.
@kbarbr Жыл бұрын
@@LoveYourRV Ok thanks ! But . . . was yours already tacky when you laid down the TPO ? Or was it still liquid. That's my question as it would seem, normally, that you'd want it not yet setting up to tacky state. Thanks again !
@LoveYourRV Жыл бұрын
@@kbarbr Yes, it was getting a little tacky but not like it stuck down instantly and I was not able to take back off and reposition it as needed. If I was doing the main roof I'd only do a section at a time.
@pigybak 3 жыл бұрын
what would a job like that cost?
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea but given materials and time at 100-150 bucks an hour that RV places charge, it would easily be $1000+ I would think. It took me easily about 12-15 hours but I took my time.
@jacktyler7599 3 жыл бұрын
Ray, I consider you an intrepid DIY'er. Nothing seems beyond your scope. I guess the obvious question is whether you considered simply overlaying a sealant product - there are several - on top of the existing material.
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I actually plan on trying out the Alpha Systems roof coating for the main roof as it's not in that bad of shape, and would be a major job to redo the membrane. I think I'll leave the solar panels in place and just freshen up the rest. It will add a bit of protection and help with cooling. I figured the slide-out was not that big of a job comparatively speaking so went for the membrane replacement. Partly because the company was offering free materials and partly because I know RVers with older RVs would be interested in what it takes to do the job. Also, I was wanting to reseal the flashings.
@jamesblanchard6033 3 жыл бұрын
Jim here are their lots available in your RV park what is the phone number
@LoveYourRV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, I guess it depends on length of stay. I see quite a few coming and going lately, but to get months in one spot you need to reserve in January for the summer - Here is the website - thunderbirdrvpark.com/