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the problem with authentication is, that you will never be 100% certain if you have the real deal and you sometimes will label a card suspect, as it varies from all references you have, but it might be genuine from a print run you never seen. On the other hand, there a businesses acting as authenticates, that complain about how hard their business is - very funny: If you can not do the one thing you claiming, do not enter the market. So... the very best people for the business avoid the business as they know their own limits.

Right? He needs his own rating system. Mint cards would be 10 Rudys.

Au-then-tif-i-ca-tion?

Over Beckett? You're smoking better trees than me. Take Rudys appraisal to auction...see how far that gets you.

@@sarowie interesting comment

More likely need a new printer than new ink.

JohnIbizu lol it’d probably be cheaper. 😂

@@asianwanderer7243 true that. They are drug dealers, they give you a printer to get you hooked on their ink

@@darksideinc8889 and the first hit (cartridge) is always free.. lol cause it comes with the printer haha

Probably need a cheap bright LED light lol

where can i download this soundboard, sounds genius

Sound board? Yes please!

Please give us a link to this soundboard

Please make this real!!!

@@sonofchlar6144 That's what she said ... Gigigidy

Ruby with Tommy investments

@@zerokidd21 Ruby with Tammy investments?

he should make a sub channel in relation to this one

You've already changed his name to Ruby

Here is something to investigate and a Warning to North American Buyers - i hope Rudy sees it: Beckett grades German cards from the "Renaissance" Set as "1994 Antiquities". Just check Ebay for "Antiquities German". Currently someone sells for example a Beckett graded Mishra's Factory from the German Renaissance Set (Black border and Set Symbol) for 499 USD, which are worth about 3-4 Euros in M/NM condition. Beckett not knowing about Renaissance as a Set seems unlikely considering their Expertise of Magic The Gathering. So Beckett claiming german Renaissance Set cards which are not worth much are "1994 Antiquities" is very misleading. The Sellers don't point that out either, they of course abuse the Fact that their Renaissance Card was classified "Antiquities" by Beckett. Would love to .see Rudy look into this

I was thinking the same thing. Some nice mitutoyo calipers would be great. Maybe even overkill.

with the money he makes some good calipers would pay for themselves in the cases which are hard to tell.

​@@meantforu222 nah, you want a micrometer for measuring thickness, though the calipers would be good for the other dimensions.

@@Dysan72 why would the calipers not work? New to machining and shop work and trying to learn more about methods.

@@meantforu222 Calipers don't have a force control, so with soft materials, or measurement deltas below ~.003, they are not particularly accurate or particularly consistent. Also, a 0-1 digital micrometer can resolve down to .00005~, which means that even variations in the rolls of paper are easily seen.

Don't ever come to my store again.

@@Pandahboymtg can i come?

@@Bobbingtonn You're ok

I'm fucking dead lmao

Yeah Ruby secretly goes to Lowe’s instead ;)

Problem is the company recognized the card as authentic beta edition. Even altered, the paper says it's genuine, which isn't. I hope they hadn't sold many cards on this situation. Otherwise, they might be sued for collectioners

@YourMovieRocksDOTorg that's absolutely idiotic. Becketts whole business model is identifying authenticity and quality. If you think they'd purposefully ruin the trust they've spent decades growing with collectors to make a few more bucks giving gradings to fakes you're out of your mind. This was a lazy employee who needs to be fired immediately.

M Simoes or it’s not a real rating? Notice how easy the box was to open? Also the serial number can’t be found on when looked up

It was probably carefully opened and swapped. Or someone at Beckett gave no fucks.

Well its a genuine beta back, it’s just the front that was altered.

Same but with pokemon and yugioh wanted people to play now they are collection but only for money

When you realize that people are spending their money to get back a feeling, or get a feeling they could not reach when they were younger and had less capital to spend on experiences... THAT is when you will learn that some are creative who LIVE every day, and some are survivalists and are already dead.

@@B.V.Luminous Dude, I just want to play a game I remember enjoying. There's no need to come in and hork up all that "I'm 12 and this is deep" ish.

@@JackSilver1410 yup, you are a creative. The card seller is a dead soulless being.

​@@B.V.Luminous I see it a bit differently, if he was "just after the value" he wouldnt play the game and teach it to your nephew. He shares the fun of playing that that you have. if they had no game value to him he wouldnt play. Yeah your old cards have sentimental value and thats why they have so much more value to you, but he has no sentimental connection to it. Just imagine if you had known like you had a card back then you didnt need for example because it wasnt in your colors or stuff and you knew you could get money for it wouldnt you have done it? I started playing last year and our group drafts a lot, great fun, but I sell almost all cards that are worth something almost immediatly, because I dont need them, they would gather dust in my place and maybe even get damaged. So I sell them, someone who needs them can buy them and treassure or play them, so the cards have a use again and I can use the money to play another event with my group (for example someone recently bought my cultivator collos, she needed it for her commander deck, so she was happy she found the card and I had a bit more money which I then spent on a booster box that I opend with my group (we enjoy opening boosters together). And the cards I dont need and are not worth, I give them to the two ppl in our group that love collecting and they are happy about them. For me thats the soul of the game, giving the cards a kinda purpose beyond laying in my binders. I also have a few cards I treassure that I like or have some story behind them. Like for example that sorin my playgroup gifted me. I would never sell him, but I understand everyone who would. Enjoy the time playing with your brother in law and your newphew :) I hope that didnt come across "im 12 and this is deep"ish ^^"

This, for future make sure nothing crosses the camera as it can hide a smart wipe, and is a trick used for swapping out stuff in videos.

Jacob Hutchins holy heck your right

Same, except I felt like I was listening to comic book guy from the Simpsons.

Yeah or caliper the card

great idea

I just commented something like this. Not knowing the actual weights though. It HAS to weigh more tho that fake one.

1.78-1.81 grams if I recall correctly.

A comment doesn't get much better than this.

hadi7474 *Ruby*

+hadi7474 I'm gonna save some Ultra Timmies too, if someone has Rudy's e-mail address, please tell him about this: Beckett grades German cards from the "Renaissance" Set as "1994 Antiquities". Just check Ebay for "Antiquities German". Currently someone sells for example a Beckett graded Mishra's Factory from the German Renaissance Set (Black border and Set Symbol) for 499 USD, which are worth about 3-4 Euros in M/NM condition. Beckett not knowing about Renaissance as a Set seems unlikely considering their Expertise of Magic The Gathering. So Beckett claiming german Renaissance Set cards which are not worth much are "1994 Antiquities" is very misleading. The Sellers don't point that out either, they of course abuse the Fact that their Renaissance Card was classified "Antiquities" by Beckett. Would love to see Rudy look into this

@@chartreux1532 His business email is in the video description my dude

@@SmiteKhepri For Business yes. Patreons of Rudy have another E-Mail address i believe where they can ask question or inform him about stuff. Or did he say in some Video that People can e-mail him non-business related stuff to his business e-mail?

lol what is the ongoing joke with tacos and rudy? im new

I saw it

you joke but he could've easily inserted a cut there. There is a reason directors use stuff like that during one take scenes to hide cuts. He shouldn't have said, "I'm gonna keep this card on camera" and then immediately covered it up.

You're lucky, I played and owned Magic cards back in Beta. Watching these videos makes me hard core regret giving my cards to a younger cousin (I stopped playing around Ice Age)

I have never p li ayed or owned magic ether why was this in my feed and why did i click on ut lol

Honestly, this type of stuff should be interesting to anyone wanting to know how to spot counterfeiting. While counterfeit money is an entirely different beast than MtG cards, there's some similarities that can be spotted if you've seen the ways people counterfeit playing cards. The corner not being cut right or the thickness of the card are some examples that could apply to dollar bills. Getting 20s, 50s, and 100s from the bank shouldn't concern you. But if I get a $100 bill as part of a large exchange you bet your balls I'm handing it back if I don't feel like the weight, size, or font doesn't feel right.

@@nekrataali Or baseball card collecting.

Cause Rudy does not ware pants! Is there any other reason?

They will tell you that they put on the report, but only the person that sent the card in can see it.

how hard is it to fake a Beckett label?? I looked up the serial number on the website and it says "no record found" .......

probably fake Beckett box

@@gohugo472 The owner of the card may have reported it before this video was released.

@@gohugo472 maybe thats why it was easier to flex open

If it is blue I dont want to talk to you.

If you think this is a strange world, get into the world of collecting rare coins. There are many examples of coins with a face value of $20 or less, which if you took it to a bank thats exactly what they'd give you for it. But sell for 100's of thousands even over a million dollars at auction.

Yes us collectors of premium cardboard live in an odd world

Collectors are weird

Trading a piece of cardboard for paper money with no intrinsic value.

@@ethereumcxcx8261 that's fiat for you.

Tavis King you saved me from wasting tons of money on fake cards. I love your new channel!

Thanks!

And his video lasts 13.37 to boot. I think real Rudy is trying to send us a message.

Trying to be funny?

^^^

This combined with the fact that the case was easier to open than all the others Rudy has done makes me believe that they faked the whole thing

HE can. But he has to make it so that it is evident in the video which card is which because else some jackass is gonna accuse him of swapping cards.

A micrometer is better, I used them for calibrations.

but how will he know the digital calipers are authentic??

You should totally get into magic, it's great. If you don't have the time to sit down and play with some friends, I'd recommend MTG arena, it's completely free if you don't want to spend any money

Saaaame

You mean it doesn't say Rudy on his birth certificate?!

good job reading other comments and then parroting them

@@samueld5418 i posted this comment two years ago when the video dropped. I don’t see a single other comment mentioning the repeatability advantage of a ratcheting micrometer. I was by no means parroting the other comments. Just adding my 2 cents. Have a great day Samuel.

Be careful or he might just do [Redacted]

Thats a great idea

Either weighing it on a hyper sensitive scale (try a hemp shop for one of those) … OR … there are actually quality measuring tools in DIY stores, be it that they are metal and might thus be not such great tools to get close to fragile material, but using a paper wrap to protect the card and measure it that way would work.

Also curious about the light test, he mentioned it but never did it. I would like to have seen it.

Just put it between two cheap cards and measure the thickness with a caliper.

dude wanted to use this as evidence for his ebay investigation/ticket. Free professional service, all video recorded. I'd do it as well.

0-1 Micrometer be better, .0001

That has already happened with older PSA holders in the sports card world...

The weight can be different on a rebacked card. This one is probably heavier if it feels thicker. You need a very precise scale to weigh single cards.

@@TavisKingsChannel Thanks for your reply, yeah I wasn't thinking about your standard kitchen scale but I was wondering if ther was a way to substantiate the "feeling" of being thicker. Maybe sliding it in a stack or cards would have been enough to show it was thicker idk.

Those are the next-level (possibly silly) in-depth videos that patreon want.

@@AdamHaas Why do you think I'm asking ? :)

@@bragoen I use a scale that measures down to 0.01 grams. Essentially, it can measure 20% of a single drop of water. The scale was 25 dollars. Im certain it could detect a difference in weight if Rudy was able to do so in his hand. It could be interesting for him to show the difference in card stock between sets. The weight of the cards is prolly slightly different.

Thats what i was thinking the whole time. I guess not everyone keeps a Micrometer close by like gunsmiths and machinists. hahaha

Do you think a caliper is accurate enough?

@@robertabugelis3962 sure, decent digital calipers resolve to .0005" Typical piece of paper is about .003". Card stock should be something like about .012"-.015" as a SWAG. Easy enough to determine if a card is .002-.003". And yes metri-pedants, I'm using inches. Because we all know there are two kinds of countries in the world: Those that use metric, and those that put men on the moon.

@@robertabugelis3962 A good high quality one? Yes. Absolutely.

@@scottthornley5405 NASA used metric to put men on the moon :D

Good call

I think the trimming is a dead giveaway. It should be a big red flag for Beckett.

They trim them to fit in with the other cards in their decks so as to not chest. BTW these cards were printed by WOTC and have been rebacked with other cards printed by WOTC. Read; "Genuine altered"

Hey there when did you join magic

It was clear it matched up to a collector's edition card when it was still in the holder and I don't even play Magic... You could see the "0" to the right and the tone of the brown.

The glossy finish gave it away immediately

nah i trust Beckett, a 40 year old card grading system over some youtuber who keeps saying it's thick. He keeps saying he wishing he could bend it or rip it but if he was 100% sure it was a fake then he'd just do it. Fucking coward, either it's worth nothing, then rip it, or it's a real card, and he's suckering all you guys for clicks. Nah son, this youtuber has more explaining to do.

@@dickjohnson9996 Let's rip up something that's worth 400 bucks still, when it's an obvious not-Beta from just the mana cost alone. Am I getting your point right?