Yeah, interesting

Exactly

True

Aw shit here we go again

me...... and honestly makes me realize Alt. here would be decent in handling geopolitics

Joining the military suddenly doesn't seem like a spectacular idea.

@@pxrxy Implying it was once a spectacular idea?

pxrxy you know I had plans for it after high school but I think I’ll go to college instead

Alakazam doesn't rhyme with Iran tho kek

and all Fortnite players will be drafted

lol

This entire video aged horrendously

Yeah, KZfaq’s algorithm has an excellent sense of timing.

@@purpledevilr7463 And gotta love all those "Experts" on the comments section foaming in the mouth two year ago lol

@@arcticlaw9198 The points about why an invasion of Iran is a bad idea still holds today. Especially with the example of Afghanistan being a complete failure in hindsight.

I believe that the loss of the carriers was due to the American player expecting the attack and moving their carriers down south to respond and defend the island. The admirals disregarded this result since this was a surprise attack and the Americans wouldn't know it was coming. So they took away the American's intel advantage and moved out their carriers, and then the Japanese won. Come the Battle of Midway, the Americans intercepted Japanese messages beforehand, so they expected the attack and moved their carriers down south to respond and defend the island.

​@@nbewarweHey can you go over the Barbarossa one then?

Ehhhhh... no. These exercises had quite a few glitches going in favor of the red team as opposed to the IJN ignoring a possible response by the US. For example, Ripper had to contend with US jamming his radio communications and does what the video says he did, use motorcycles and light signals. But in the simulation, these communications were treated JUST AS EFFECTIVE as radio! So, you have your speedboats armed with ASMs (which is another glitch as those speedboats are too small to handle anti-ship missiles by the way), spot the US fleet and light signal to motorcyclists on shore who instantly see the light signal, instantly deliver the message to missile batteries miles away and said batteries fire the missiles at the US fleet in at the same time the speedboats that can't carry missiles IRL shoot at the US fleet from point blank range because of one final glitch... The simulation *spawned the US fleet with the inability to fire any defenses!* Ripper knew of the glitches and took advantage of them. He didn't "out-perform" the US Navy at all. Just the then-new AI.

@@dfmrcv862 Spiffing Brit: the US Navy is a Perfectly Balanced Game With No Exploits.

​@@dfmrcv862No

Oh they would be Far worse then isis, isis where a flash in the pan they had zero training or combat experience reslly, they took land by force and number's then lost it all when they met real fighters, iran groups would likely be made up of ex military persons with training and the know how to organise groups, imagen isis with a REAL military head, real know how and all the arms to go with it,

GeneralEmperor did you take that from wonderwaffle’s Hamish 2: Electic Boogaloo

Iran was like Country’s in the west, before that fucking dictator came into power.

Not to mention itll also result in a Syrian Civil War on steroids.

@@Fernando5455Jr If the dictator you're referring to is the Shah you would be correct, if you're referring to the Iranian Theocratic Government then you're dead wrong. The Shah was a brutal authoritarian who routinely had his critics and opponents tortured to death. What triggered the revolution in the first place was when the government fired upon protestors calling for reform.

IT AIN'T ME, IT AIN'T ME.

I literally found this comment JUST as he said that!

iraq could have been another vietnam for america if the iraqi leadership didn't trust america and was actually willing to fight till the end in 1990,and if the soviets backed them.

@Tall Jakee the iran today is nowhere near the iran before in terms military might.

@Anas Belmont + Syrians+ Lebanese lol

Nice 😂

​@@rafaalvaro3687what nice

based

yeah that about sums it up pretty well.

What a dumb sensible, logical question

man 2: well uh...it helps our ego? man 1: but this is supposed to help us against Iran if we rig it we don't lear- man 2: it helps our ego

USS Liberty

Ah yes, you were a hired mercenary of the state

@@BijiMustardGas Whine some more. Don't blame the people who love their country and put their lives on the line for it. Blame the ones who put them into the situations and send them to war

I'm an OEF vet. This shit is so true.

@@dan_sullivan11 They still sign up to fight for and kill in the name of the UD government

Right? We went to Iraq and built McDonalds and Pizza Huts because MUH CAPITALISM. Please explain why I had more fast food choices in the desert than I do in a small American town?

You’ve got that the other way around. Ripper wasn’t allowed to shoot down all those brand new V22 Osprey’s the navy was showing off. And I’ve never read anything about lighting fast motor cycles. The army uses quite advanced simulations when playing these war games. Plus after the first round when the red team sank all those ships the marines just put a couple of LAV53 fighting vehicles in the decks of the aircraft carrier to shoot at all those small boats

@@MrJimheeren Yeah, it was a bit of a shitshow. I don't really know of anyone who takes it all that seriously.

@@MrJimheeren The sim did not have models for motorcycle messengers, Riper just said his radio communications were done by motorcycles and flares so they "couldn't be intercepted or jammed". His suicide speed boats did so much damage because they were modeled to be carrying more explosives than boats that small could hold without sinking or at best foundering in anything but a calm sea.

lol yep

Damn this aged extremely well 😂

Just wait a couple of months

@aBoughtLemonWhat is this idea that war is good for the economy? Because some investors make money from Boeing and Lockheed Martin? If war was good for the economy why don’t we build a brand new Navy, sail it to the middle of the ocean, and sink it every year? Maybe there’s a case to be made with overpopulation and demand going down after people die… but all you would need to do is stop immigration and deport people.

2020 was supposed to be my mf year wtf

I'm just waiting to hear I've been drafted for this bullshit.

And he was supposed to be the isolationist.

*"I hope"*

Seriously.

cha cha real smooth

saved from who, themselves?

MY LEG!

Just think about what could have happened if we didn't tell everyone about the drone!

@@An7ithe0s I didn't know Iran was trying to go to war with Iran? I thought it was the US?

But world politics aged like milk. I can't believe there's senators on TV asking for war with Iran...

Wow, a 2nd eu4 reference. So original

Nope Nope You must be fun at parties.

*"China declared war upon their new enemy United States. They cite "Coalition" as their cases belli!"*

nothing like good old eu4 meme eh?

Iran has joined CSTO

That challenge has been debunked so many times its not even funny.

@@leronbenari226 Go ahead then, debunk it if it's so easy

Parker Hetzel you don’t need very capable commanders to have competent guerrilla war tactics. And as Cody said that the casualty numbers would be less in a real life situation.

Parker Hetzel this will be Vietnam 2.0

Didn't think the legendary Ilya Murometz would be on KZfaq, thank you.

*Iranian retaliation

it went on my recommended lol

Get rekted I have asthma so I'll be wheezing while you go to war.

@@CrafterboeyMiner if it gets bad enough uncle Sam will always get his

Fuck uncle sam

@@user-xsn5ozskwg that jingle jangle

>Laughs in 34-year old boomer with a back problem

xXTraitorXx games-stuff *banjo music begins*

Did You know that the drone was over irianian land and that the Iranian government even said multiple times that the US should take their drone away before they shoot it down ?

And no one ever asks what the hell an American drone was doing flying in Iranian airspace anyway! Rules for thee but not for me

*jazz music stops* *fortunate son starts*

@@TheEpicPineapple56 The drone was over international waters.

😂😂😂i thought this was just made until i look at the uploaded date

Damn your lucky, I wanna be part of the war

Come to Canada... eh?

O B no you don‘t

You can't get drafted if you already join the army (national guard)

I'm sure this is a joke, but if it's not, then you have nothing to worry about. We have the largest Army in the world, by like a lot, the largest and second largest air force in the world, and an uncontested naval fleet. We won't need a draft if we actually go to war.

I mean we didn’t start any of the world wars, the Vietnam war or the Korean War. We just like escalating civil wars and starting them in South America. Oh and uh... toppling leaders in the Middle East

US: You think you can defeat me Iran: I can annoy you also why you picking on me

@@commanderkei9537 exactly. We don't start the fights, we just like poking the already infuriated tiger with a big fucking stick lol

@@commanderkei9537 Not to mention the proxy wars that usually start because of the U.S & other large nations getting involved.

@@commanderkei9537 'toppling leaders' aka OIL BITCHES. Then there good old Britain (I'm British): British people: America is in a war again? We aren't getting involved. British government: well yes, but actually no.

When was the navy humiliated by a technologically inferior force in the past

@@Brandenburg-Poznan The US did that

@@sredacted1647 ohhhhhh that completely slipped past me at first

FUCK

Well shit. At least Iran doesn't have nukes (that can reach us).

@@notmariolevi2863 the nukes dont have to hit the united states, they can use their nuclear power to hold off an invasion of their country. 1 nuke going off is enough to spark a conflict that can easily destroy the world as we know it.

@@brucifer2332 true, but if they nuked us than they have to face the united nation forces against them, plus the first plan is to destroy their nukes first....

@@Jumpman6352 Okay let's get an understanding of what is actually going on. Iran does not have an ICBM missile system that can carry out a "nuking" of the US. The best way for them to carry out a nuclear attack o the US is to use a dirty bomb. All of which is traceable. So they aren't going to carry out a full scale nuclear attack on US soil. If you think they will, you're simply a moron. The best way they could use their nuclear capabilities is to use it in a defensive matter if the US were to invade their homeland. Or if they use one in the surrounding countries around Iran with active US military bases. That then would be an offensive matter. But that is the stupidest thing they could ever do. Don't underestimate the Iranians and their ability to hold off an American invasion. Iran can, and will be WORSE than Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan all combined if the US decides to do more regime change to Iran.

Reagan was influenced by Threads and the Day After, perhaps Trump will be influenced by this video.

Imagine if bolton been awarded the the title of "Defender of Russia" (or China, or North Korea, or Italy or what have you). You would never hear the end of it and he would become a pariah. But Israel is our number 1 ally according to the jew owned media and politicians, so it's perfectly ok for him to be awarded "Defender of israel"

TheNexusM She’s XY

Dude thank you so much for this, the idea of leveling Iran breaks my heart. Doing a well thought out video from a big channel like yours will help make our stance clear.

My favourite part is the polar bear coming in to feast on some boltons...

Who is this 4 chan

Based

Blursed

Based and oldfagpilled.

@@Skeloperch I was literally drinking a can of Monster Energy when I got the notification for your comment. Well played.

Defeats the entire point of the exercise by rigging it, your supposed to lose and learn from it

Will say something i heard a long time ago, i have heard that plans are rubbish but planning is indispensable. In this context, the fact that you guys got to see them plan, and do stupid things, prepared you for the field experience of them following those stupid plans, and getting into stupid shit, which you knew based on the plans, and were able to respond to. In other words, their plans were shit, but the fact that they took that shit let others know they have an asshole. Does that make any sense or am i high again.

But they do have the world's most powerful military by far, so it doesn't really matter. I think they're just wasting money for no reason.

Here, let me get that chip off your shoulder.

@@skeleexthey technically would still win the war due to technological supremacy. In fact USA can easily invade China tomorrow, plow through japan and Taiwan and Korea and Philippines if they refuse to lend their ports, occupy all of these countries, lose all deployed carriers and perhaps 10 million soldiers and still be strongest military power in the world. Each year they would then spend 10 trillion dollars holding these territories, which USA economy should be able to stomach with political will. Essentially USA can do whatever it wants as long as it wants to.

Russia is an Iranian ally though

Don’t forget Israel will get the biggest kick out of all of this

@@MPHJackson7 thats why there laughing, they get to sell more guns and military hardware

More like Saudi Arabia and Isreal.

China and Russia*laughs in terrified*

That's a big YIKES from me fam.

History will chronicle your generation as the real Memes...

As a healthy American 20 year old

You won't be is it happens

You wanna get DRAFTED BOY?!

A drone in their air-space. Not to mention, they didn't shoot down the loaded aircraft.

@@mshara1 they also warned to get that thing out. supposedly.

Makes zero sense for Iran to escalate, another black op via jwo

Iran: No u

The US sent it there to die. It was to test how bad would be for aircraft to enter Iranian airspace. Now the US have the Intel they wanted, and those morons celebrated bitting b8. Do you really think Bolton wouldn't have fucked their shit up if he was truly looking for an excuse?

Random Person, it’s like I’m in a dream!

@@itzayden706 same

there's a tax for that

It wasn’t on the same day

Or it’s just time zones

@The Jester - Fool Of Hearts Yeah thats true but it's not like the navy has changed its ways in the last 60 years so you can gain the basis of the knowledge that Paul used to win the exercise, with a quick google search

@Stephen Jenkins Yes it's there to reveal weaknesses. But nothing was learned from the exercise! Nothing was changed or improved. Also using suicide boats and using ambushes sounds like something even the most incompetent general could pull off

@Stephen Jenkins Yeah I found his point that the Navy straight up denied the results and would make the exact same mistakes as a bit ridiculous. The best navy the world has ever seen would take a fall into denial because they were angry that they were taken by surprise in a training exercise?

@@Jan-rq8mo To reveal weaknesse? Thats why they remade the exercise but reds couldnt use radar, and had to give position of every troup? Thats how you fix a problem? It wasnt there to fix the problem, it was here to show that america was boss. And it failed. Countless carriers were sunk in wargames since decades, yet the navy doesnt do shit about it. French killed them, swedish killed them, "iran" killed them, etc...

I could totally see a rogue General situation playing out like MW2

I agree they basically fought to the death against iraq

They don’t need to win over the people if there are no people

They wouldn't say anything like that. They would congratulate Trump for being so tough on terrorism or something and five minutes later they'd be sending arms to the Iranians. Accompanied by military advisors so they'd get a free seminar on how to best fight american troops. To quote Napoleon: Never interrupt your enemy when he's about to make a mistake.

wosh

​@Francis David Martin Yeah right. "Look, the best Russians are in Iran so now is a good time for the total nuclear annihilation of the world!"

Ebrahim Eshaiyan lol

@Francis David Martin um thousands of modern Russian tanks (and if they decide too tens of thousands of soviet era tanks) flooding Europe.

Rest in peace brain4breakfast

*the late brain4breakfast

RIP

F

@@lcoyle1998 he committed suicide, we'll miss him

*Trump:* Okay citizens, maybe next year.

Common sense: "wow, making the us start a war must be hard" Us ships throughout history: "actually super easy, barely an inconvenience"

juamont this this right here is fantastic

​@@juamont Country A: Attacks smaller US ships. US Ships: Let's attack Country B, that'll show Country A not to mess with us.

Winning against Iran is super easy, barely an inconvenience

I'm here

Middle East 2: Persian Boogaloo

He jinxed it

Jinx.

18 to 45 i think

Can you imagine the sad irony of a draft dodger sending people to war? I hate this timeline

Laughs in dual citizenship.

I love my country and if it were in a situation like WW2 I'd be happy to join (scared out of my mind but happy) but if this shit popped off and they renewed the draft then I'd sit in jail.

@@williehardiman6766 So would I. Maybe we could be cellmates.

Supreme Leader WOKE Profile pic goes perfectly with this.

your*

you are country will go boom?

Admiral Mudkip Thanks, just noticed that.

Did You know that the drone was over irianian land and that the Iranian government even said multiple times that the US should take their drone away before they shoot it down ?

Couldn't you just death star them?

Unleash unlimited power upon them, My lord.

@Ursus Americanus a significant disadvantage is still a significant disadvantage.

Yes, master it shall be done.

@@KraNisOG Yeah but was their ADN previously all that much of a threat

RACE WAR!!! REEEEEEEW

His fate sealed the moment Israel was mentioned.

Too late

@@merrittanimation7721 CrItICiZINg IsRaEL iS aNTIseMetIC

Dw m4a1 op

Not everyone played it (no offense)

Iran in the bf3 universe is full of insurgents and there is not a functioning government so it's not supposed to be accurate.

RIP John Miller

F for every tank pilot named John Miler

Any country aside few larger powers: *exists* US: It's free real estate

Except a certain middle east country

@@thotarojoestar3045 Because Israel isn't a dick. At least is much as other countries.

unless it's Israel or Saudi Arabia. You know, because Jerusalem and OIL.

@@furoridajinn Or rather... Saudi Arabia: *points at other Middle Eastern countries* USA GOP: *It's free real estate! Don't mind the small payoffs we're making to the military-industrial complex to enable this.*

Are you trying to say Alexander the great is comparable to the US? 😂😂 that's funny

TheyAre WatchingUs no he’s doing the exact opposite

@Kerry Moore What the US would do in this point is basically starve the Iranians in an economic siege by sanctions or igniting revolutions rather than have the US do that shit themselves.

@@persia313 Alexander only took Iran, he didn't hold it.

@@BosonCollider He held it until he died, so yes, he did by all means and definitions hold Iran

RIP British Empire. 😭🇬🇧

@@promethium-145 good riddance

@@rudrakshpainuly1294 NOOO. :((

@@promethium-145 they fucking suck. Pirates and hooligans.

@@rudrakshpainuly1294 Cope. They built a gigantic empire, similar in scale to the Romans and Spanish. That's pretty impressive.

Wyatt Farmer Do you not know how Roman numerals work. Not being mean it’s a real question.

@@theguywhoasked5591 woops. I know how they work I just didn't do it correctly here.

@@OwnTrick well Azeri are Turkic (you may argueing if they're mix, but the language is obviously Turkic), and Persian means of the province of Pars (today Fars) nowadays a bit wider meaning but Persian and Iranian is not the same. So Kurds are Iranian, but arent Persian

@Hernando Malinche Sorry, I know you're right. It's even mentioned in this video. I was being overly general, no doubt. But "persian = iran" is common, so it made sense for the joke, sorta.

so youre saying the achaemenids are back?

I’m a mentally ill pot head. I don’t want to dodge the draft, But if I got drafted Uncle sam would be like, “Nevermind”

I'm 18 and if there was a draft I would probably enlist so I at least don't get drafted into the bullet sponge position know as the infantry

Yeah my Grandpa was in the USMC in Nam he had a few stories to tell got Agent Orange and came back to a country that spat on him for his troubles. rip Grandpa Kevin 1947-2006. I dunno I’d enlist but wouldn’t know what to do. Maybe medic,tanker or helicopter pilot.

Not for those ungrateful Jews my friend but for -oil!- TO MAKE THE WORLD SAFE FOR DEMOCRACY! or because the Ayatollah has secret hidden WMDs in the vague part of Iran. Or a US boat was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of Iran.

@@akillerpacman1709 if you're looking for a job in the military, try to become a drone pilot, if war does break out, you can chillax back in the us and kill those guys from afar

How? The video's point still stands

Nah it’s more relevant by the second

I think the comment was about the last part of the video. You know, speaking about how unlikely such a war would be

Brayden Usher Seems to me it has, quite well.

Iran will absolutely be as successful as van Riper in the Strait. This is not a matter of technology and firepower, which they could never match, and they know that, so they have built their navy SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS SITUATION. And of course, thousands of Iranians would die. That's the whole point. It is a matter of numbers of small craft and missiles, and it is a matter of the relative maneuverability of big clunky oil tankers and warships against assymetric swarm tactics in the strait, and they win. Round over, see you on land

U should have wrote "wait that's illegal"

thats unfair pls nerf

Field Marshal Hans The Geneva Convention pretty much ensures that such tactics are never done, but since Iran doesn't follow Geneva Convention rules, it's only a war crime if the commanding officer gets taken alive and put on trial.

@@treymagathan847 Then we'll have more of a reason to liberate Iran

PerniciousSeizure hellio Dana White approves of this comment.

They have no unity

This is true for every country

@Ursus Americanus Iran has no allies at all honestly most of its sunni counterparts would be glad to see iran destroyed

PowderedWigLouis how does it feel being Saudi Arabia’s and Israel’s Bitch?

@@powderedwiglouis1238 they had no allies (except for North Korea and Syria) in 1980 when the entire world gave Iraq the weapons and go ahead to exterminate them while the islamic revolution was young. Using weapons and tactics that hadn't been seen since the first world war as well... All it did was turn them into the middle eastern powerhouse they are today, you don't mess with that kind of national morale.

Yeah

He comes off as pretty cynical and jaded and i dont even mind it lol

Very few people who talk about current events or politics know history, and it's quite sad.

Yeah, if my "Historian" of a History teacher talked about this, he would say "Orange man bad, America stupid, vote democrat."

Well you know what they say, people who don't learn about the past are doomed to repeat its mistakes.

The Return of the Revenge.

Break out the street dances

I thought Libya was Iraq 2

@@willnapolitano148 Iraq was its own sequel.

@@willnapolitano148 Libya is like the really bad B movie of the Middle Eastern-American War franchise. None of the original characters are there and it makes no sense. The War with ISIS is the proper sequel to Iraq.

OMG XD

See, Iran too.. But unfortunately I tripped over Iraq and they caught me for the draft.

Iran so far awaaay!

Ben Bellamy let’s face it. America is just Britain on steroids.

Christian Ali Na America is more like Britain but they just enlarged it by a scale factor of 5 and added more crazy people

Daniel Field cough cough steroids

Christian Ali this

Iran and the middle east as it is has it's roots in British and French colonialism, specifically post WW1. Maybe AHH can do a video on "if the ottoman empire was never demolished".

Catpirate funny but obscure reference

Electric boogooloooooo

More like Afghanistan threeie

Stop it

More like Vietnam 3: with a vengeance

Yeah, Iran's doing the supplying now.

YOOOOOOO

Yeah, I'm conflicted whether this video actually belongs on AlternateHistoryHub.

For real

vietnam: hold my beer

Canada: *confused confusion*

Vietnam: *laughs in tree*

Inconceivable!!!

Happening right now.

Consider this a prequel.

@@spinax22 I love prequels!

ಠ_ಠ

@@spinax22 I think we stumbled upon John Bolton

Just like during Vietnam

Canadian Trump elected Mexican Trump elected Walls on the 2 borders north and south. Both leaders: keep your stupidity murica.

Alakazo! To Germany I go!

You seem to forget about federally recognized tribes.

@@mr.coffee6242 A war with Iran would be easy to get countries like Mexico and Canada to do the war for us as Canada has no Spine and the Mexican government is weak and can barely run their country