He's lying to keep himself out of jail. He didn't interview, he interrogated.

His job was fraud but didn't know it was fraud what a horrible little man,he's lying to keep his job at the post office.

This guy wasn't employed as an investigator, he was employed as a bully!

This is what happens to 'yes' men in positions of responsibility in an organisation when they're totally unqualified, or suitable, for that position.This seems to be rife in public services.

This man damaged so many people & he gave the third degree to people being questioned, he is so guilty & must be prosecuted - hopefully be convicted, & jailed.

As an ex Royal Mail postman, many a time I was asked to sign off documents and paperwork which I wasn't happy with, our union rep told us to not sign anything off we weren't happy with, management then bullied and harassed the people standing their ground

This fellow knew what the Post Office could do to him. It was obvious because he saw first hand the savage, cruel and cold injustice which he was part of dishing out. Vennells must face the law.

Now is the time to take away the Royal Warrant for the Post Office, and someone has to be held accountable.

I worked at Honda U.K. in Swindon for 20 years, it was run by British management. There was an army of Steven Bradshaws’ all adept at covering their own backs and sucking up to the right people whilst stabbing others in the back, all the while doing as little work as possible and piling on the pressure to the actual people assembling the cars. My sister has worked at M&S for 15 years, she tells me it’s the exact same story there. It’s what we the British are good at, look at how government is run, you are rewarded for corruption and deceit.

The police at Hillsborough on the day of the tragedy, and in subsequent investigations and public enquiries also changed statements and wrote what they were told to write be senior officers, and to this day not one single officer, of any rank has been disciplined or prosecuted. So if this quarterwit was trained by the police to take PACE interviews, it hardly surprising lying on them comes easy to him!

All the lawyers who have misbehaved and stitched up the postmasters must be held to account. This gets more and more murky by the day. It sounds like there are so many hundreds of people involved in this massive affront to justice, from the P.O. as well as various law firms. No doubt the lawyers were paid vast sums, and it would seem reasonable that they should pay back all their fees, as well in some cases be struck off. The reputation of the legal system in the UK is in tatters.

Parkinson’s Law, isn’t it? You rise up through the organisation until you become incompetent. By the way, Fujitsu was prosecuted for financial irregularities here in NZ several years ago and lost their government contracts.

Seems like this fraud inspector knows nothing. 45 yrs service and in a position with an attitude of "not me, its him/her ...." Was he receiving a paycheck for 45 yrs for ignorance? Just asking.

He doesn't seem to be a credible witness, he has selective memory.

The post office pocketed the money after 3 years in a suspense account. That should be returned to the post masters that were charged

It says a lot about the PO when you look at the quality of the people they employ. I watched this guy and he could hardly speak the language. Then I found out that he had started working for the company as a TV licence investigator and all became clear.

Bradshaw needs a serious bit of porridge even if just for stupidity. He has also, in my opinion, misled the inquiry. He signed his witness statement and is therefore 100% for every word. And then we have the cases he investigated. It would be appropriate for him to loose his pension. Give him time off for dobbing in those around him.

Hardly swift, it’s been years! Bradshaw may have to watch his back now. Horrible person

So how can somebody not knowledgeable about an IT system investigate anything

The guy just admitted perjury / perverting the course of justice. The lawyer keeps dodging the question.

Allegedly The husband of the current Westminster Education Sectary (Gillian Keegan) was the former CEO of Fujitsu. Fujistsu is a central partner of Infosys, which is owned by Rishi Sunak's father in law. Thoughts ?

I've no sympathy for this guy but I can't help feeling a sense that he a civil servant I had never previously heard if is being set up as a fall guy to save the likes of Vennells, Davey & a coterie of other higher profile names from getting their collars felt.

As an ex regulator I find this guy unbelievable and should not even be in that position

This situation the Post Office enjoys is a prime example of criminals being judged by criminals. A system my father fought against between 1939/45 as a member of 45 Commando Royal Marines. Was his efforts and the lives of many of his comrades spent in vain?

As an investigator worth his salt where was his professional curiosity? If thousands of apparently unassociated people each told him similar information, one of two things is happening, either the similarities in the stories mean - Hes stumbled onto the single largest criminal conspiracy to defraud a Government agency in the history of the country and missed an opportunity to make a name for himself in the revelation. Or, That there might actually be some kernel of truth in the assertion that the system is faulty or being deliberately manipulated by a shadowy hand. The fact he didnt find either worthy of further investigation, makes him a pi- ss poor investigator and his insistence in only digging into the details of the numbers to prove the post offices position, suggests that he was only ever there for confirmation bias and that the post masters never had a honest hope of proving themselves innocent whatever evidence they managed to find to support their case. If he had applied his investigative curiosity he may have found the truth and kept his name clean but instead he is stuck on the wrong side of a criminal conspiracy that has ruined thousands of peoples lives over two decades.... I guess that's what you get for being a partizan hack

why was this company given contracts IN THE FIRST PLACE ?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there are a lot of people at the post office having sleepless nights GOOD

The Post Office Board awarded THEMSELVES huge extra bonuses on the basis of a completely bogus bonus system. Darren Jones MP extracted this confession from the current gang of cash-abstracting shysters who are “running” this vital business today.

One interview reveals multiple crimes which all carry hefty custodial sentences

If lawyers instructed what was to be said as a statement to be made, then the lawyers should be brought to account by the Law Society with the greatest prejudice and demands by that society, for prosecution to boot!

Bradshaw comes across as morally bankrupt and intellectually lacking. I wonder if he is a great actor or if what you see is what you get.

Having worked for many years in the IT field, my initial thoughts were that this system had not been subjected to the thorough testing that it warranted before implementation. But then my cynical mind started nagging the one-word question - "WHY". Maybe it's time to consider other motivations to install such essential software in such predictably-dangerous conditions. Was the project overrunning a vital deadline? Were either customer or supplier under financial pressure at this time? I feel we can rule out deliberate sabotage as being too conspiracy-theory for consideration. I am reluctantly left with the question - did someone have a vested interest in the system implementation failing? I hope the answer's no.

He comes across like a scouse gangster

Why didn't he call out the post office years ago. Sounds to me he wasn't up to the job. He could have helped instead of shutting up .

The NHS do similar things I’ve seen it first hand .. you’re Guilty before found innocent.. I suspect the Railway are the same and other big organisations

Nice questioning by Vanessa. She is delving into the scandal asking very detailed questions. Thank you Vanessa for clearing up so much of the ‘fog’ of this issue.

I love that Catherines family and William & catherine invited the postmaster from where the middletons live to the wedding even after he was wrongly convicted among hundreds of others of these horrible charges that they didnt commit . It tells me just how kind and fair the middletons and catherine & william truly are to the common folk . I hope these people get justice and paid for the damages all these wrongful convictions have caused these families

The scouser is dead man walking

If you sign a statement you are saying that every single thing on that statement is true as far as you know. If you sign a statement and you are not sure of things you are obliged to say that in your statement!

He should be arrested for signing that MG11.

Recruit & appoint experienced people from overseas (eg from Canada, New Zealand, Australia, India) who are not tarnished by the British Post Office.

This culture mirrors every public funded organisation. No one can make decisions. People higher up don’t like their employees speaking out of turn. When they do what is required then they are pushed under the bus when things go belly up. Who is ultimately responsible will get away with it.

He couldn't lie straight in bed

I think we are being awakened to the immorality of legal advisors who work closely advising these big companies and even individuals who "advise" instruct their clients. They do not have clean hands

The “witness statement “ must have been vetted by the Post Office legal team, and recognised as a statement which the witness simply “rubber stamped”. Listening to Bradshaw under questioning , everything about him contrasts enormously with the style and content of the Statement. I believe he is telling the truth. The legal team representing the Post Office need to be questioned under oath .

What does she mean by "until we have the evidence"???? The post office didn't have evidence of fraud but they still persecuted hundreds of innocent people!

Unfortunately I really doubt if any of these P.O executives, Lawyers etc will ever go to prison or suffer any kind of punishment. These sort of people always get away with everything.

Just think if compensation got paid out properly and earlier this would not be so big, the Post Office and and above were playing at damage limitation the entire time after the court cases collapsed.

He wasn't told!! What a crock. Anyone at the sharp end of this must have known it was a computer problem, not thousands of SPM suddenly became dishonest!!

Unless he only ever interviewed one person, then how can he say to them that they were the only one who had a computer problem. Then, as an investigator, he should have investigated the computer problem to eliminate that as a defence for the postmaster or if he found an issue with the computer, he had to disclose this as it undermined the case. This is exactly why they didn't disclose it, and they should be prosecuted. At the beginning of the statement, there is a declaration of truthfulness and knowledge of what is stated. If someone else wrote it and gave it to him and he passed it off as his, then that is a lie, and he has committed an offence. Times that by how many statements and he is in deep sh1te.

Bradshaw clearly had selective amnesia

Under Scottish Law the provision of a knowingly untrue statement by a solicitor or other person to a witness to deliver under oath could constitute the crime of “ subornation of perjury”. Which basically is one person encouraging another person to commit perjury.

The bosses and all the other liars need to be charged and convicted of perjury and forgery etc .. they were happy to do it to the postmaster victims

They are ALL going to point fingers elsewhere... They must be taken to task and prosecuted.

What a lier hiding behind post office lies.

They’ll be back handers Galore

The way I see it the CEO got the big wages also the bonuses and even a honour. So she should take full responsibility and go to prison. I'm sick of CEO'S taking bonus after bonus but never the blame. I bet not one of the heads of the post office will spend anytime in a cell. As for your quest saying sometimes large companies will get caught doing something and they'll tell the fraud squad they'll change this or that and that's ok with the fraud squad. I'm old now but was always told nobody is a above the law. I say bollocks if I committed fraud and said sorry I won't do it again. The fraud squad wouldn't leave me alone. If the government really wants to stop big companies doing stuff like this it's easy start arresting CEO'S and board members if they break the law after they have been tried and if found guilty send them to prison and I don't mean a open prison. After that Paula women finds herself on a prison wing her only protection the screws. She better hope none of the kids of the postmasters are screws on the wing she's on . ( Boiling water with loads of sugar time for her. )

Surely what he did amounts to perjury? He presents an expert witness statement containing “his expert opinion” to court, that he knows is, at the very least, not actually his own assessment , even if he can deny that he knew it for certain to be “inaccurate”.

The governments through the years are also up to their necks in this scandal they knew what the score was. The continuing recent awarding of contracts to Fujitsu point towards some behind the scenes dealings. Is the government attempting to buy Fujitsu off to keep quiet about information that could incriminate the government ?

Surely signing a statement written by someone else which has been shown to be untrue is perjury!

Isn't one branch of fraud computer based? He or someone in his team should have asked the obvious questions and made a fuss. He should not have been in the job!

Isn't this a case of "perverting the course of justice" by signing a statement that someone else has written?

Laws in the UK need to be brought in to protect the public against these criminals and fraudsters acting in the UK corporate world! Accountability laws are what is needed to make the wrongdoers do the right thing in the future!

Slimy man. Tap dancing at its finest

A very useful tool... ...well a tool for certain.

Don't think of the company as Japanese Fujitsu - it is really British ICL (Fujitsu just bought/rescued it in 1998/2002!). AFAIK They didn't sack all the British ICL workers and bosses and replace them with Japanese staff! The bosses and workers are still essentially UK ICL staff and one of Fuj/ICL's main customers is the UK Gov!

If you make an untrue statement to the Court that relates to a possible criminal judgement should intern be held criminally responsible. As should those who pressed the person into making such a statement. Even if such persons were from a legal firm.

Did he think his job or promotions depended on signing? Because if that's the case that's illegal, you can't take someone too break the law to keep their job.

Its well past time he retired, he can certainly afford to.

Lying under oath is i think enough to get you a prison term.

A witness statment is a statement off the witness,it does not matter who wrote it if he agreed it ,he now owns it its now evidence.

We need to find out what they didn't know and when didn't they know it.

This man isn’t as ignorant as he makes out , should be prosecuted and sent to prison asap

Any true "Investigator" would have the moral courage to write his own statement. Not just sign what someone else tells him to. The police need to go after this grub as well.

Yes, what is the police involvement?

Actually he never said he was unaware, he kept to the line of not being a ' expert ' but never stated if he was aware or not 😮

Why do we continue to call him an investigator, when clearly there was never any investigation. He even says he doesn't have enough technical understanding to make an investigation. His job was strongman for the PO. His job was intimidation, not investigation.

These are criminal thugs.

There’s a lot of slime trails gathering around this post office scandal and it’s starting at the top.

It wasn’t just “obfuscation”, this was a combination of perjury and perversion of the course of justice. Also there is dereliction of duty in the numbers here. Any reasonable person would surely have seen there is a systemic issue here. Everyone from the board down should be barred from passing the fit and proper persons test - ie barred from Directorships and working in financial services or law for LIFE.

Did that man just say to start again????. Now a lawyer would say that. It has taken over 20 years for this mess to be brought to our attention. To say to punish the post office, lawyers writting statements we have to start again is rubbish. Its about time these lawyers, including this guest, who, by the way has been no help, stop profitering from those suffering, and get this sorted quickly.

This is what happens when a person is in an important,skilled position and does not have the appropriate skills.Sadly he comes across without charm or expertise.

u cant tell me govt statements in covid enquiry were drafted by the individuals...

I hope all this post office employees past and present who have lied under oath. Will be brought to justice

To quote a famous comedian, YOU HAVE ONE JOB. ONE JOB....

This cannot be the only instance of justice failure. Justice must be failing many others. A system that failed so badly with the post office cases cannot simply be deemed sound for all other cases.

This like an investigating police officer being given a witness statement by a lawyer and just signing it without question. "I was just obeying orders".

Watching all this as an American has been so confusing. Until I understood that the Royal Mail (Post Office) is actually a private company!! Whaaatttt?!!! Here in the US it is a Federal Agency and all postal workers are federal government workers. What is so ironic is I went to University in England and have come back so many times to visit. The red post boxes are so ubiquitous it just never would have occurred to me that it wasn’t part of the government.

All trying to save themselves ain’t they

If the statement came from the Post Office, and we know the Post Office did know there were flaws, then the statement is inherently false and perjury.

The old defence of 'i didn't know what was happening' is strong in this one.

Next thing we know it will be prime ministers or even ex prime ministers losing thousands of whatsapp messages while spending billions of pounds .

These 2 people on the couch are part of the problem. They will convince themselves that you can’t find the guilty. It will go round and round in ever decreasing circles until it disappears up someone’s ass. Just arrest everyone in all the emails. Throw them in jail for at least 20 years. Sell all their possessions and give the funds to the sub-postmasters. Then compensate them properly. This will send a very clear message to others.

Scarcely believable, " An orchestrated litany of lies" justice Mahon

He must be related to ed davey, a low down snake

At the very least Fujitsu told them they have an accounting system that was fit for purpose and they didn't. That should entitle the government to a refund. If the owners of a software system can't answer basic questions like "Can this be accessed remotely?"* but reading the documentation the system is not fit for purpose. Yes the documentation is part of the system. * Let alone "Who can access it remotely and what's stopping anyone doing so?".

Throughout my career l established a rule which l didn't read about or get instructed to do it. l made some early mistakes that made me formulate it myself. It is - never put your name to something you cannot explain or defend. Stick to this and you can never be held culpable if something goes wrong.

Hasn't this lawyer dodged her question is this against the law? "Certainly not the way to behave" doesn't really inspire confidence. Why didn't he say "no"?

Surely an "Investigator" must abide by guidelines and adhere to the legal requirements. These people helped put innocent people in prison.

Jail for this guy too.