Thanks for the hammer test I’ve studying up on these rods for a boat spreader repair and am now confident it can reliably do the job,
@joewest25605 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you achieved success, this methods worked well for years. Even with your success when you did it, the parent metal was nowhere near hot enough to apply your rod and keep your rod out of the flame completely. If you look at the beginning part of your video before you started to heat aluminum you can see crevice inside the weld area where there was lack of flow. That's because you didn't heat the parent metal up enough there and when you did the reheat, you still didn't heat it up enough. It will work even better for you if you keep this parent metal much hotter before you apply the rod. And, while I agree a smaller diameter rod would wet in better, the lack of sufficient heat to the parent metal is more the culprit of the blobs of aluminum than the rod diameter is. I also suggest taking that map gas to a scrap of thinner aluminum and OVERHEAT it until it deforms so you get a feel for the symptoms. You have to get it hotter than you did.
@karljaros33906 жыл бұрын
a few years ago I bought some aluminum rods from Harbor Freight for a money saving venture. I could not have been happier with my results. after some major repairs to a Ford Taurus (my wifes vehicle) I found I created a problem with the AC. An aluminum line got bent a little too close to a bolt and wore a hole in the tube. cost of replacement with scrap yard parts was several hundred dollars. I took a chance and tried using aluminun rod. I sold the vehicle a few months ago ( more than 3 years since the repair) and the AC was still holding pressure. Because of the restricted area I had to work in I used a microtorch with butane. I should also note that I have what would be considered no welding experience ( unless you cound circuit board soldering then I have a lot). I hope your small adventure went as well.
@jonharbaugh64365 жыл бұрын
Karl Jaros 7
@nw76965 жыл бұрын
This stuff works providing the person knows what they are doing, you sir obviously do. I repaired air conditioning lines with this stuff without fail, of course the system has to be emptied, evacuated, and opened first. One can never be too safe. Thanks for sharing your unbiased opinion. 👍🏻
@nitequill3576 жыл бұрын
Great demo, I was going back and forth about using this method to weld my radiator mounts and this solves the question as to will the weld be strong enough to hold. You just saved me $75 to the local welding shop. Im defiantly using this method. Great job.
@gremmann5 жыл бұрын
I like reviews like this. You have no vested interest in the company, and it's a honest review. Thanks, I'll be getting some rods in the near future.
@eldergodsband11875 жыл бұрын
I've used this process before; my opinion is that the success of the join us heavily dictated by the temperature of the work pieces, and more so the way that you can have an even temperature between pieces. I would use a chalk mark on the alloy and heat until it disappeared, which gets you pretty close to an ideal temperature.
@DucatiPaso7505 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from your video and the comments about the gas. Thank you.
@trumpzilla70954 жыл бұрын
Hammer Test proves it all. Good work. Great video.
@russellstephan68446 жыл бұрын
I haven't used the Harbor Freight product yet. But, I have repaired and fabricated a lot of dirt/street motorcycle components with HTS-2000 -- a similar aluminum brazing rod. As long as one gets the clean parts to "wet," the joint should be plenty strong. It does take a bit of practice to get used to the way it flows as mentioned in the video. Be sure the cleaning of the aluminum is done with a plastic scrounge pad, file, or stainless steel brush/wheel. Embedding regular steel into the aluminum could cause corrosion problems down the road. I've built mounting brackets, repaired worn out foot peg mounting holes for re-drilling, fixed swing arm chain guard/guide block mounting holes, etc. Big massive parts like motorcycle swing arms require oxy/acetylene, though, due to the fast heat-conducting properties of large chunks of aluminum. The stuff is a nice go-to solution for some projects and fixes.
@rtp39625 жыл бұрын
Good video. I've been soldering all my life. You make it look easy
@kaydee4575 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ryanpinkham67845 жыл бұрын
If people would back bevel as well, they would have a better root. It all comes down to proper heat control though. Great job on that joint!
@johnsine71545 жыл бұрын
I KNOW nothing on aluminium welding...but this application appears to be possibly very useful for aluminum bikes (I.e. bicycles/cargo bikes mtn. Bikes) . I have a design I wanted to build (personal use cargo bike/electric wheel hub system) it appears it's all in heat control...Thanks for your video!!!! Keep making them!!!
@ooiiooiiooiiooii11075 жыл бұрын
Surface preparation is very important. Thanks for the video.
@pornpori5 жыл бұрын
Whenever working with aluminium surface preparation is everything. Else, it simply won't weld, braze, paint, anodize or anything.
@MonzaRacer5 жыл бұрын
Treat your clean up the same as TIG welding. Also using a virgin stainless steel wire brush, OR clean, virgin sand paper/Emery cloth. Keep and eye those clean up parts, files, grinders etc separate from steel work or any other metal. These rods have been sold for years and were developed for the most part to repair old "pot" metal grills and side mirrors before replating. Many industry have found them superior to TIG welding in they need less equipment and training to effect repairs on simple aluminum parts and also it works well on cheaper cast parts as well and due to it's zinc content will actually attach to zinc/lead gavanized pipes. Saw a guy shape a temporary repair on an outside water pipe by cleaning pipe but not removing galvanizing then he clamped some aluminum half Moon rings around pipe on each side of hole then filled in between them. Looked odd but by golly it worked till pipes could be replaced properly
@MaturePatriot5 жыл бұрын
Great demo. Gives me a warm and fuzzy about using the Alumiweld.
@ronaldbrown96385 жыл бұрын
I use it all the time to repair high pressure refrigeration coolers I don't buy it a harbor .freight. but at Grainger same stuff. it does work clean clean clean your parts good I use a oxygen acetylene torch 😁👍
@joerolfe79676 жыл бұрын
thoroughly impressed!. I also do a lot of brazing and soldering but this is truly a game changer. I haven't heard to much about this stuff but I also don't hear about people brazing anymore. probably because no one knows how to do it anymore.
@shawfifty6 жыл бұрын
I just did a job similar to yours, but I used propane and the Harbor Freight rods. I have this extension. Its called the Bernzomatic WH0159 Universal Torch Extension Hose. I use it with Coleman 2000015166 Propane Cylinder Bulk Adapter and hook it up to my 20lb propane tank. On the working end I use the TS 4000. The reason I like the hose is that it has a adjustment valve for the gas flow which the TS4000 doesn't have. I like it because I only use the torch in my shop and don't have to wonder If I running low on propane as often. Got the hose at HD and the adapter is on Amazon. I have Mapp gas but found out the propane just about as well as the Mapp. I like the hose because it's easier to handle the torch and the torch can be inverted. It just happened that I've had the 20lb tank for a long time which was hooked up to a BBQ. The BBq got old and I never used it so I gutted out the burners and use the pit for a welding station. Grate is useful for welding for certain jobs.I also have a brick on the grate to help heating the pieces.
@mikebolton38165 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Im gonna go buy some now. Thanks for doing this.
@resinductelec5 жыл бұрын
I have used this stuff and it works great. Map gas works better than propane but I have gotten it to work with just regular propane. It does put down too much material but I had success pulling some of it back off. Oxygen/acetylene is best you just have to not get it too hot.
@richmac9185 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was tempted to buy this stuff but it got a lot of thumbs down on the internet. Looks like if you do it correctly (have sufficient heat like MAP) and clean the joints that it does work. I'll pick my self up some next time I'm there now that I know it does work
@faulker67514 жыл бұрын
ok , i have watched a few vids on this , but you really showed how to do this properly.i am working on building a recumbent trike and trailer for my daily commute. im thinking this will work perfect to build a light weight trailer!
@stevenmorris22936 жыл бұрын
Great video. You've taken all the nonsense out of this issue and laid it to rest. Now i shall proceed with confidence on repairing my outboard skeg. Thank you.
@josephpuchel64975 жыл бұрын
Hello I purchased some Alumirod at a flea market. It works great filling in holes in cans and larger cracks in aluminum but when it came down to a small crack in a 5 horsepower Tecumseh sump cover there was excessive amounts as you indicated. They tell you to wire brush area to keep it dull which I did but i could still see the crack line. I assembled the piece but it still leaked thru. I’m going to dremel out the area more including the cracked area and give it another try. Nice video
@kaydee4575 жыл бұрын
Don't make the same mistake a lot of people make. The alloys used to make these aluminum 'brazing' rods differ from manufacturer to manufacturer. There's no guarantee that what you bought at the flea market was indeed the same you can get from HF, unless of course it was marked with the same name, Alumiweld. The best I've used thus far, albeit expensive and not immediately available like the Alumiweld, is Muggy Weld. Muggy weld seems to perform better on wet out and is superior in bonding. They also have a low temperature rod, used with a liquid flux, that I use a lot for really small stuff when I can't conveniently use my welder or Alumiweld.
@chapiit085 жыл бұрын
I used that stuff to successfully repair a Marlin Mod. 60 receiver.
@choppergirl5 жыл бұрын
Comments from my friend at Arnold's Design about alumiweld: "I have some of those alumiweld rods here. A pack of them lasts quite a while. It's more of a solder, because it doesn't penetrate into the base metal. I'm pretty sure it's a type of high zinc alloy, or pot metal, because you can take a zinc rod, or even a zinc based penny and do the same thing. Alumiweld makes a nice looking joint, and is pretty strong, but I wouldn't really trust it with structural parts. I found it eventually oxidizes between the zinc and the aluminum, and the joint gets weak. I soldered my one drip tray together with it on my first vapor blaster. The second one was giving me fits trying to solder, so I got out my welder and actually welded the sucker together, which was actually easier. I used alumiweld on a prototype wet blasting gun too. The joint looked great, but after a few months of use it fell apart."
@ehlipton31825 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Got my thumbs and my CONFIDENCE UP!
@75Mooses3 жыл бұрын
Does work very well
@2-old-Forthischet5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I just bought some of these rods today from HF for a small project.
@rivenmotors79815 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, enjoyed your work and your relaxed delivery.
@rickhass43785 жыл бұрын
great demo! I'm sold on it. I'll have to give it a try.
@jimsmirh24065 жыл бұрын
I'll have to some of this stuff a try. Looks good.
@goeachitt5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video very helpful to know it works ! Occasional need to bond aluminum and no tig welder, yet. Great practical alternative.
@phillhuddleston94455 жыл бұрын
I doubt it is as strong as a good weld but it looks like you would destroy the component before breaking the joint so if it's not a critical component this should be good enough. The more tools at your disposal the better off you are. I too have a tig welder and can tig weld aluminum but especially with it being a transformer welder opposed to an inverter type this may be better on really thin aluminum .
@wesrurede5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing that up.
@fenderstratguy4 жыл бұрын
You're the man. Great video!
@shawnllorca47685 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, it was good information. This stuff looks like it would come in handy for repairing aluminum tubing on or going to condensers. Unless you know of a better product for that
@petetrufant52444 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know they made a 3 to 4 pound claw hammer lol.
@CandC686 жыл бұрын
Only additional info I would look for is: Slicing through the brazed parts to see penetration. Repeat the process on 2 flats, like 2 pieces of the angle you used. Braze one side and then flex against the weakest connection. Intentional break to see penetration. Again just destruction test to see how the seam performs.
@CandC686 жыл бұрын
How far between the pieces does the brazing material penetrate or flow? Does it just puddle and lay on top? Does the melt; wet and flow or wick or act like "sweated" solder? My bad on choice of words.
@tonyhill36385 жыл бұрын
I think the hammer answered the question very well! Doesn't mater when the joint is that strong. At least, not to me. Thanks for the video!
@Brutemandave5 жыл бұрын
I never had an issue with any of these aluminum brazing rod products available from multiple sellers. They do work on steel as well. My only criticism is that you should use a more narrow torch rather than the blow torch you used. With practice one can drop a beautiful bead, also map gas rather than propane should be used. I first tried with propane but found the temperature point lacking.
@robertvillafan12205 жыл бұрын
awesome short video dude
@ckeller076 жыл бұрын
Works well.... if you get the surfaces clean and hot enough.
@sambo55625 жыл бұрын
II am actually impressed this product worked as well as his test results prove out. I would have liked to have seen a cross section view of the actual braised section. This would tell us if the braising process actually combined and melted (fused) the 2 pieces together.
@martinbenton7425 жыл бұрын
Great information. I have an aluminum tool box that had been broken. I need to cut the end out, straighten it, then try this to "weld" the end piece back in. "Talk amongst yourselves" that was funny! MB BAR RANCH
@seanflanagan56746 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting! I haven't tried soldering aluminum (aluminium) but have gotten the gas and torch. Your demo gives me assurance that it's not only possible, but can make a good joint. Hey, hopefully the trolls won't quit sniping, otherwise what fun would we have?
@JodBronson6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is awesome! Thank you for the Video! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@HyperactiveNeuron4 жыл бұрын
Nice demo. When you bend both pieces at the same time and not break the brazed bond your joint is good. Looks like you used 6063Al. I wonder if it works as good with 6061Al which is actual structural Al. Their weldability is about the same if I remember right.
@andrewdenine16854 жыл бұрын
That's great
@penigomaroch62934 жыл бұрын
Very good !
@bracsim6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, you just saved me a lot of money
@douglasbernick6596 жыл бұрын
Call video, the only thing I could say is cut it in half see the world from the inside it looks firm on the impact force, so it's probably good and maybe give her clearinformation on what products you purchase either a picture of the package or part number. All in all great video thanks.
@machia07055 жыл бұрын
Use MAPP gas. Propane isn’t as hot. MAPP lets you do a great job with plenty of heat.
@joecarnes91745 жыл бұрын
Not bad, I've not got em to work that good! Good job!
@buns525575 жыл бұрын
Nice Video What kind Rod was that? & you Used mapp gas? Can you buy all of these at harbor freight do you think it would work on 2" buy 1/4 inch flat bar
@dennissastini17495 жыл бұрын
Dave yakker yes you can and yes it will
@davidhoward55866 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Thank you for the video now I can go get some and try it out.
@mikecorleone67976 жыл бұрын
I’m considering using this to make a new air filter housing for my van.. 🤔
@claycoates50566 жыл бұрын
thank you I have been looking and you salved the problem and i know what I'll use
@Grace2abound6 жыл бұрын
I usually use AL822 rods using an A2 tip for turbo torch or oxy acetylene 0 tip if I am doing copper joints also. I usually do evaps though.. I like my rods cuz it has Flux on them already
@hdman975 жыл бұрын
Gi STRONG m
@draizwrm5 жыл бұрын
great video, excellent test, thank you
@jimlepeu5775 жыл бұрын
Strike the rod across the job a little more quickly and you won’t leave so much solder on the workpiece
@akbuilder76265 жыл бұрын
Ive had success cutting a piece that I estimate will cover the area I need and get it and the surface hot till it flows then I lay that length down in the area I want it. The result is a cleaner looking "weld".
@willyjilly96846 жыл бұрын
Can you take a few different sized aluminum nuts braze them to a aluminum piece and take a torque wrench and see what readings each nut has before it snaps?
@btomas2256 жыл бұрын
Well, that's a GREAT idea I propose that YOU do! Please get back to us with the results. Thanks for the comment....
@xXJosafat07Xx6 жыл бұрын
lets have AVE do that
@SAXONWARLORD1000AD6 жыл бұрын
YOU most certainly can - cant wait to see you vid
@aleksanderhr.fredro84076 жыл бұрын
Hi Iwas testing two rod varieties for alu: ZnAl22 and AlSi12 (european names). These rods had the flux embedded inside as the core of the rod. I find ZnAl22 much easier to work with, lower melting point, easier wetting. It was brittle during cooling though. AlSi12 is more demanding. You need to get up to the temperature fast and have the surface clean, including the oxide layer removed. Also remove the oxide with a brush between brazig adjacent spots , as alu oxidizes fast
@patrickfarley80365 жыл бұрын
Dude, ZnAl22 is Zinc with 22% Aluminum brazing rod known as "Aluminum tin" and AlSi12 Is Aluminum with 12% silicon otherwise known as "Aluminum bronze" brazing rod. ZnAl22 and AlSi12 are not European names but a way of expressing a chemical compound, in this case Aluminum alloys. I don't know the particular brand of rods you're using, or your heat source but the ones I get from Harris do not have flux inside and I use with a tig torch with 100% Argon in lieu of flux and use low amps for an arc just hot enough to melt the rod and not the base metal. Initial cleaning the aluminum is all that's required. Not between tie ins. But a suggestion about using a wire brush for cleaning aluminum is to make sure it is has stainless steel bristles and only used on aluminum as to not cross contaminate the braze by introducing other metals into the puddle. Good luck.
@tonyj22165 жыл бұрын
I gave you a thumbs up for proving your point, but I can't understand thinking this method would be better than using your tig machine. Your tig torch would have given you a much better weld joint.
@kaydee4575 жыл бұрын
Yes, but you can't drag a welder everywhere and sometimes you just want to join two pieces of metal on site. I wanted to see if this would work and it does.
@markschiavone80035 жыл бұрын
Tony J , wait! Better than this? A torch, grinder and rod is all that was needed and it was stronger than the items being braised so anything that is stronger is wasted. It would be like using a shotgun to kill a fly.
@williamreynolds82105 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration, thanks! Now, try welding an aluminum tube to angle iron. Do you think a regular propane torch would suffice? Looks like Alumiweld doesn't wick around like a solder brazed on copper fittings.
@nats45055 жыл бұрын
Workin on my pontoon thank u sir for the video
@arturoesquina43646 жыл бұрын
Right on!!! good video!!
@emoneyblue5 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing ... now Im going to go grab me a few sticks just for back up and keep them on hand...
@terryblack43854 жыл бұрын
All about clean surface and plenty of heat, MAPP gas.
@mikalthorn5075 жыл бұрын
Do you think this will work for the frame of a pontoon boat
@spencerboaz23855 жыл бұрын
It should work really good with a 00 or 000 tip with acetylene . Now I want to try it with my tig for those jobs where you really don't want too much heat build up . Thanks great video .
@bowfishingfalcon11625 жыл бұрын
Propane works fine
@awesomexistence5 жыл бұрын
Different alloys of aluminum will take soldering or welding differently.
@deankay44346 жыл бұрын
To have any success, the aluminum has to be heated depending on thickness. Clean using a dedicated stainless steel brush for aluminum only, other wise is contaminates the surface. MAP gas is hotter than propane from hardware stores as lead has been removed from standard solder, making the melting point higher. I use an oxygen/acetylene torch for brazing, welding some items or for this type of aluminum low temp brazing. My MIG gets the most use.
@wyattspop5 жыл бұрын
Wow do I need help! I need to solder an aluminum bar that is very thin, if it helps you understand, I'm soldering one of those Halloween animated figures that use the black aluminum poles to keep the costume upright. I cracked the pole at a "T" junction. I tried solder but it's just too thin and falls right through (the kind used for electrical soldering) but the bar in your video will be far too thick to work with. What can I heat up to fill the crack and repair the break once it cools? Thanks so much
@kaydee4575 жыл бұрын
Tommy- you cannot "solder" aluminum with "normal" solder, beit electrical or plumbing, it won't bond to aluminum. Frankly, I can't relate to your Halloween thingy that uses 'black aluminum'?? If it's aluminum then it will have to be cleaned, probably by sanding (to make it metallic colored, not black) and the Alumiweld could work but you would have to use one of the smallest (in diameter) rods they provide. However, It also takes skill using a torch and a bit of experience if it's delicate. If you don't have a torch then you likely better try something else like an epoxy and perhaps a cloth wrap for strength. JB Weld is available at most Auto parts stores.
@wyattspop5 жыл бұрын
@@kaydee457 Thanks, and you were right, even the smallest rod was far too big, "Steelstik" by JB weld did the job perfectly. It hardens so well you can drill it...and I got E Z fuse tape to reinforce it. Many thanks
@2strokin705 жыл бұрын
I can Tell you this good sir.. get good with that tig ..you can get much stronger and better welds you just need to ball the end of the tungsten and it helps using the proper tungsten for whatever the particular material your welding and thickness too..there are several tungsten types for aluminum. Great video though now I know I can use it and trust it lol
@kaydee4575 жыл бұрын
Well, I can tell you this, sir. I AM GOOD with the TIG but you cannot drag the TIG welder and bottles everywhere. Use the right tool for the right job! If you own a boat or a Camper you'd know what I mean....This stuff isn't meant to replace TIG it's meant as a way to get the job done when you can't weld......
@philliptoone6 жыл бұрын
6:27 Wow, I didn't expect that tubing to bend before it broke. Is it as easy as soldering copper pipe. I assume it's not.
@kaydee4576 жыл бұрын
It is if you're patient and use some common sense. It doesn't wet out like solder. It stays more solid than liquid and fluid. If you have a pool of shiny filler then you're at the right temperature. But, it does indeed work and it works very well.
@frigglebiscuit74845 жыл бұрын
it looks like it acts alot like mercury or gallium.
@aurelienyonrac6 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome thanks you
@moonolyth5 жыл бұрын
looks like a hotre torch would help level the melt.
@sertimins5 жыл бұрын
I see you prepped the pieces, looks like a layer of silver. Is this due to you polishing or did you apply some layer of flux.
@garthsutcliffe15406 жыл бұрын
got my thumbs up too thanks for the video
@jamesphillips92725 жыл бұрын
Wonder if you could use this stuff on an exhaust. Would the exhaust heat up so much and cause the alumiweld to melt again?
@jakefromstatefarm42195 жыл бұрын
The largest claw hammer at my local Menards store is 22-oz.
@peterford93695 жыл бұрын
Maybe they make a small size rod. Does seem like a huge weld. Good job though.
@Nestophallies4 жыл бұрын
Classy finish, FIN
@merrills14605 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to use this to attach an aluminum ladder rack to an aluminum utility trailer. I'm using the gas from home depot un the yellow can but I cant seem to get it hot enough even after 15 minutes. Any suggestions?
@keithlucas98375 жыл бұрын
I'm inspired good job. I'll give it a try soon, nice video. Thanks
@spinb5 жыл бұрын
If you cut that piece, is it possible to see just how much penetration of the two metals occurred?
@kaydee4575 жыл бұрын
As others have stated: it is NOT welding anything it is soldering or brazing and there's no penetration of the base metals. The Alloy in the Rod bonds to the two surfaces being joined.
@chrisdixonstudios5 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@ooa91934 жыл бұрын
5 lb hammer maybe 16oz
@erik618016 жыл бұрын
sweet.. knockoff muggyweld. will have to try some. the muggyweld is good for fixing curb rash on wheels.
@sentry98345 жыл бұрын
Great video, question, do you think this method is safe to use to build am aluminum bicycle frame? Also where can I find information on the strength and limits of this technique. I like the simplicity of the method. I'd like to know how strong these joints are.
@1188dale5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get them at. What kind of gas did you use
@timbowers15 жыл бұрын
i like to see you patch a alum. rim with the alumiweld
@valveman125 жыл бұрын
Excellent Demo
@arockpcb13475 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you sir
@rdkuless5 жыл бұрын
Propane torches don't get hot enough.. Use Mapp Gas torches..
@garymckinley69745 жыл бұрын
Does a Mapp bottle need a special torch?
@markcrawford88765 жыл бұрын
Yeah weld worked, but that is by no stretch of imagination a 4 lb hammer, maybe a 12 oz'er
@BEAMERNOOB5 жыл бұрын
What happens if you go from the inside of the tube