Cosmonaut is such a contrarian that when people tell him he’s a contrarian he makes a dedicated video attempting to prove the contrary.

Marcus is such a contrarian, that if we all said he was black, he’d make a video reviewing his own appearance and say he’s white

The Lighthouse is a beautifully made, wonderfully acted film. It’s dripping with atmosphere and can be interpreted in so many different ways, studied and talked about for years, and I hated every minute of it.

Marcus is the only person I watch that I disagree with the majority of the time. I just think his videos are entertaining and well made, regardless of whether or not I disagree with him.

You didn’t give Morbius a 10 so clearly yes

Things we learned today: 1. Audience scores should be hidden on artsy films 2. Critic scores should be hidden on goofy films 3. Redditors should not be allowed to call anyone else contrarian 4. Alba stumbled

I feel like there's a line to be drawn between being a contrarian and just having a different opinion than what's popular. In my mind, contrarians are people who disagree with popular opinion just for the sake of disagreeing or because they think it makes themselves more interesting or look more intelligent. They disagree with popular opinion just because it's the popular opinion. You have your own reasons for your own opinions, and therefore regardless of what those opinions are you are not a contrarian. Maybe my personal definition is just wrong but that's how I see it.

In a stream about contrarianism, I'm glad Marcus and his chat found common ground in the fact that "user reviews" is a unanimously trash category that you should never trust.

I fucking loved this video. PLEASE do more highlights from your streams. Shit was hilarious! And appreciate the additional editing you did for it instead of just only clipping it out

Your version of a white guy nervous about being branded racist when reviewing Black Panther was the funniest shit I've heard in months. This whole video was a joy to watch.

The thing about Cosmonaut being a “contrarian” is that, if I remember right, the way the numbering scores are set up is that a 5 is an actually average, just okay movie, whereas most people consider anything less than a 7 to mean it’s dogshit

Honestly, this is still one of your most entertaining videos for me. Loved watching you riff on all the weird reviews and scores on Rotten Tomatoes.

I feel like people are forgetting that being "A Contrarian" also mean doing it *because* they want to oppose the common opinion. But in watching the videos, it seems much more based in personal feelings rather than "being a contrarian". Sometimes common opinion is considered but there are times where he agrees and others where he doesn't.

Can we have a whole stream of just Marcus reading outrageous Rotten Tomatoes reviews please??

I would never say CVH is a contrarian, he just has a SHIT TON of hot takes, and honestly, I respect that.

The Cosmonaut Contrarian Hour. This was a joy to watch. You should definitely do more videos like this, Marcus.

You almost have to split the difference between Critics and Users to get a comparable score. Users are highly emotional and that can quickly spoil any meaning to their average score. (either hating, meme'ing or fanboying) Critics are more interested in qualities of filmcraft or innovation while occasionally missing the fun... So I think if your score fits somewhere between critics and users, you're clearly on the right track and NOT a contrarian. You good boy:-)

Like how Marcus ended this with “maybe the contrarian was the friends we made along the way”

As someone named Matthew, I can confirm that I do too also love the Lighthouse

love how halfway through the video just devolves into some moral questions of whether people should be given free speech on movie review websites

I once read a user review for moonlight where a person said everything about the movie was great, but they gave it a 1 star because it "encouraged sin against god".

As someone who generally ignores ratings, *especially* from audiences, at this point I take most instances of the usage the label "contrarian" to be shorthand for "I'm discounting your opinion since you don't agree with me". Outside of arguably Mike from RLM, I honestly can't really think of anyone who is legitimately contrarian for contrariness's sake the majority of the time.

I thought you were the typical hipster contrarian at first. Then I watched more and more videos and you’re pretty dang fair and spot-on. You also are pretty clear that what you’re sharing is an opinion. Folks do tend to overreact to things. What I like about you is that if a movie makes you feel something you take this introspective look at why you felt that way. So if you hate a movie, you have a very good, valid reason.

I love this, my favorite content in YT is watching channels i love rambling about things they like. Hell yeah bro

People misunderstand two things. 1, that actual contrarians constantly make a point of being DIFFERENT than the majority, so much so that even if the consensus changes, they will contradict their first statement just to be DIFFERENT. 2, people conflate their own feelings for the case Markus makes for what he likes and doesnt like. In other words, the harshness or level of praising he gives can just as subjectively be recieved. Plus what do yall want? For everyone to like the same stuff? To be able to substantiate ones opinions? I actually like the idea of not having a need to substantiate every single opinion about trivial things such as this.

one of the defining traits for his reviews is not talking down to his audience, i feel like. even when i disagree with his opinions, his videos are enjoyable to watch because he explains his thoughts like a regular person, and doesn’t talk down to the viewer

I feel like usually audiences give out a higher score because they went into the movie knowing they would like it. Let me explain. If you're a critic and have to watch every movie, you might not particularly like HP and might have hated the two previous Fantastic Beasts movies, but you are still going and writting a review. As an audience member, if you don't like HP you don't go watch the movie. If you saw the first two and didn't like them, you just don't go to the third one. This means that most people that bought the ticket for it already knew they were going in for a good time. It's only fans. HP is an extreme example, but I feel like its applicable to a lot of movies thanks to trailers.

Please do more videos like this, it was such a good time.

Gotta say, this stream was one of the most enjoyable Twitch experiences I’ve had in forever. You’re a great content creator Marcus, keep up the amazing work.

the reason there is always this discrepancy between audience and reviewer score is because the only people who care enough to go out of their way to write a review either really loved or really hated something.

This was a great video. Extremely entertaining and made me think about the concept of being contrarian a little more critically. Keep up the great work!

I loved this video format, I'd love to see more of these! In any case this one was really fun :)

To be a true contrarian, you have to set out purposefully to say something opposite of the consensus for the sake of being opposite. You can have contrary opinions and still not be contrarian cause it's just how you feel about it. It's when you do it expressly and solely just to be different that it's contrarian. Or at least, that's how I've always seen it.

He’s not lying everybody Paddington 2 is a life changing experience. I was struggling with high school insecurities and was going through a rough transition into adult. Voillllla a magical experience unlike anything I ever seen brought me to a place I thought I lost.

Okay- but I need to say- The Batman deserves the 9.5 you gave it. I loved that film from beginning to end and it had a great sense of identity and theme and stuck to both of those throughout the film.

Please make more of these videos. I live in berlin and every time you stream it’s in the middle of the night for me.

Honestly, most star-review sites where anyone can vote are absolutely broken, because you're right, it quickly devolves into unhelpful, extreme opinionated statements that really just take up space. And many people go ahead and give 5 stars simply because nothing was _offensively_ bad, and then people will give 1 star because of _one_ thing they didn't like.

I feel like Marcus has become less and less of a contrarian over the years, not that that's a good or bad thing

14:07 I un ironically have an uncle Jimbo AND an aunt Lisa 😭😭😭😭😭

Well there's 30 minutes of my life i can't get back

Honestly, seeing as he gave Morbius a 2/10 and Rise of Skywalker a 6/10, I think Marcus is the nicest reviewer out here.

"Everyone has a little contrarian in them." Spoken like a true cannibal.

This is by far one of your best videos. Keep it up cosmonaut !!

one of the reasons i like you is specifically BECAUSE you often, but not always, seem to go against the grain with many movies. i'll watch something and think "hey that was really good" and then i'll watch your review and i'll realize "oh there was actually a lot of flaws and/or dumb shit in this movie that i didn't notice." or the opposite, i'll watch a movie that i think "meh" about and then watch your review and you really liked it and suddenly i'm seeing all these things you pointed out that are worth appreciating about it. it feels like you help temper my extremes/initial thoughtless reactions into something more balanced. but my favorite reason for watching you is that you do all that while reliably making me laugh my ass off. you deliver your opinions with super solid humor and you never feel like you're genuinely (although sometimes sarcastically lol) berating anyone for liking or disliking a movie.

love how this video devolved into scrolling through a website and complaining about other's opinions. I do that with my friends every now and then, and I need more of this on yt

More variety = More Cosmonaut = More Good Times, absolutely no complaints here

Dude I’m on such a binge of your videos. Love your work mate :)

I wasn't sure if I should watch The Lighthouse, but now I know it's the movie for me! Thanks for making a guide for all Matthews out there!

I think movie critiques are similar to food critiques. You’ve got your professional chefs, your foodies, and you average person. Your average person might rate a food poorly on the basis of not liking broccoli, but that doesn’t mean the dish is bad necessarily. At the same time, a chef or foodie might be tempted to discount that “I don’t like broccoli” is a perfectly valid reason to not like the dish. Same for movies. There will be those who can articulate a film’s merits and flaws and from there can separate the movie’s “quality” from their personal enjoyment of it. “This is not the best film but I love it, here is why.” Then there will be those who won’t go much further than “I did not like this movie, therefore it is bad.”

I think it's just that a lot of people have very unique and different tastes from each other, that we forget that opinions can be different or change overtime. I don't think Terminator 3 was that bad. I also don't think it was better than Terminator 2. Sharing opinions is just a bizarre experience. And funny. And sometimes hostile.

Defenitly make more these are fun to watch and if it's fun for you to make them then it really is an absolute win

The editing in this video slaps! I'd absolutely watch more of these.

glad to see someone going through and actually discussing the disparity between critic scores and audience scores

I always find it hilarious whenever people get this uptight because... honestly most contrarians I know or have seen haven't been the kind of people to provide killer analysis and points like you do nor do they seem to get that just because something is popular doesn't mean that there is no possibility that at least one person is gonna say it sucked or vice versa. I think the difference is you can usually tell who's taking the opposite opinion just to be that guy and who's doing it because they genuinely feel that way. Like your reviews I've always been fascinated by because I could completely disagree on a point but the way you articulate it and explain yourself makes me perk up and gets me thinking. Meanwhile a contrarian will make me roll my eyes because there is nothing to their thought process that's interesting. One moment they will have their own opinion and the moment it gets too popular or you try to speak to them about it they change their viewpoint just to seem special, sometimes they'll even rehash what they read in an article just for the sake of seeming more educated than they actually are.

Here’s the thing on Rotten Tomatoes; it rewards movies that are like 7/10, solid stuff that’s inoffensive and technically sound, and often makes them look as good as truly great movies

I love seeing your Twitch-streams uploaded on KZfaq!! Love them!! Keep em coming!! 😂

People on the internet have such a hard time accepting someone else has different opinions. There always needs to be some big reason, it can’t just be that you disagree. You think that way because you’re stupid, or your opinion is based on politics, or you’re a contrarian, or you’re too nit picky, or you’re a consoomer, or you’re nostalgia blind, or whatever.

I don’t think you are a contrarian, you just have your own personal taste in movies and shows.

Dude I’m a avid twitch user and have watched you for few minutes here and there , thought it was decent. But man,…. This shit made me cry while laughing, loved this video. You have content variety down perfectly. This was great, put more stuff up like this

Insert "I may be contrarion but I'm free" cow image . Awesome video, would love to see more of these !

I love how being a contrarian has just become "youre popular and have a different opinion than me" on the internet haha Our boi's hardly a contrarian, he just rates shit the way he does

Nah, you’re not a contrarian, that’s just the internet being the internet

Yes PLEASE do more I lost it at the review reading part

Honestly this is my favorite channel for getting an actual point of view, I feel like now movie and show reviewers are so big on satisfying their audience. I don’t agree with everything but you actually give good reasons why you do or don’t like a certain show. I really respect that.

For the record, having a thoughtful opinion that diverges from the mainstream or having your own preferences an interests doesn't make you a contrarian. A contrarian allows popular opinion to dictate theit own preferences as much as someone who bandwagons.

The thing I love about Marcus and his videos is that he's willing to state his case along with reasoning without passively talking down to his audience. I've seen so many videos from other true contrarian KZfaqrs that devolve into petty personal rants about why they're right and why we should feel bad for not thinking the same way they do. There's no harm and no foul for staying your opinion against the grain just so long as you're not patronizing, or straight up insulting in some cases, the opposition. I may disagree with some of Marcus's stuff (like the star wars rebels vids for example). But I have never felt that he's talked down to me or disrespected me when watching his videos. You keep doing you Marcus. By the way, the cosmonaut picture shows are some of my favorites from your channel.

Cosmonaut is scared of Eric taking his job, as he should be. I could watch Eric talking about movies for hours. What a man.

As a new viewer, more of these videos (reflecting videos and just normal streaming content) would be great to see more of. Helps us become more familiar with your content and personality

Dude, for what its worth, you are my favorite KZfaqr. As someone who loves both the Raimi Movies and the Star Wars prequels endlessly, your video of shitting on both of them are some of my favortie videos on the internet. I think you're insanely funny, I love your editing, your opinions and how you approach each topic. I love that you cut straight to the chase, and you have way too unique of a perspective that was way too hard to come across on KZfaq. Keep being yourself, you are appreciated more than you know! Keep up the great work

@19:44 This is a known phenomenon in the world of online reviews. You encounter a huge sampling bias among general users. Most people will only review a thing if they feel strongly about it. A completely adequate experience doesn't fill them with the emotional fervor needed to power them through the process of opening a review site, thinking about their feelings, and articulating them coherently, and submitting those thoughts in an informative way.

honestly i think your takes are perfect almost every time. they like perfectly align with what i think about the projects

I could watch videos like this for HOURS

Honestly, people who call someone out for being "contrarian" arguably miss the point of a critic - especially a youtube critic. The vast majority of people who watch your videos will be people who've followed the channel for a while. They know what you like and dislike and also know how those likes and dislikes align with their own. If they, in the past, utterly hated movies or games that you liked a lot, then that's still valuable knowledge - they'll know that if you like a game or a movie similar to those games, it'll probably mean that they *won't* like it, based on their past experiences. Same the other way around, if you hated things they liked they know that if you hate something in the same genre there's a good chance that they migth like it. It's the job of a critic to give a *biased* Opinion. Not an unbiased or neutral one, because that's not really helpful to consumers. The bias, in combination with the consumers knowledge about said bias, helps with deciding what products to consume.

I honestly can't trust the user score because, unless it's the most harmless thing in existence, there will always be someone that goes on a crusade for or against a movie\game. I still remember when TLOU2 and GOT fans went at war with each other because they both wanted their game to be "game of the year".

You f*#%ing killed me at the end talking about Eddie towards the end. 🤣

Being a contrarian means that someone intentionally goes out of their way to hold an opinion contrary to the general consensus, for attention, or out of spite, or just generally disingenuous for whatever reason. But simply holding a contrary opinion, if it's arrived at honestly and organically, is perfectly valid. After watching a lot of your reviews, it seems pretty clear that you fall into the honest/organic category, not the intentionally contrary category. I don't always agree with your takes, but you always have good, logical, internally consistent reasons for how and why you arrive at your conclusions. I am officially declaring that you are not a contrarian.

Marcus: "Audiences don't know what they're frickin' talking about, alright?" Also Marcus: "This is why I'm the voice of the people!"

Absolutely do more of this format. Love the long form “hangout” style that you’d miss by not catching the stream

Love this content, I usually don't come to the stream so this is fantastic

Wet Hot American Summer is the best comedy of all time When I first discovered it in like 2003, I felt like I found a secret that no one knew of. Was the favorite of my friend group in college.

marcus’ character arc since he admitted to liking aquaman has been very interesting to watch unfold

I definitely wanna see more Twitch stream uploads from ya, Marcus. They’re so entertaining to watch.

Dude, I don't get it. He gives something a 7/10 and a Meta critic score says like, 98 out of 100 means he's going against the grain? THEY'RE BOTH POSITIVE SCORES HOW THE FUCK IS THAT CONTRARIAN?

That closing statement of this video was epic!

I’ve never seen you as a contrarian. You’ve always provided pretty good reasons for your opinions so it never seemed like you were just having them to be different or whatever. Also you should release more stream highlight videos they’re great !!

I think Marcus is a good balance between the snobby “I’m not being paid by the studio I swear” critics and the rampant ape brained general public. If the critics say “good!” and the audience says “bad.” his general consensus will be “eh,” followed by either twenty minutes or four seconds of justification.

“Another Jared Leto masterpiece. Haven’t seen it btw” got me

This was a very good video. I would love to see more like it.

the stream was fantastic, and i loved watching this. will def rewatch hundreds of times

This was a fun video! Statements like, “Your just contrarian!” May hold water at times, but for you, I would say it’s just people disagreeing with you. There is a lot of immature people out there that don’t quite know how to disagree with people. You’re a great reviewer. And that’s from a guy who has disagreed with you in the past.

I love how Marcus's defensive white guy voice is just Obama

This one was of my favorite videos you've made!

I just had the worst "what was the point of that anyway" with my family after everything everywhere all at once. I really liked it but they just went on and on about how long it was for a "basic" plot. So I can definitely sympathize with hating being around people like that.

Love how he's accidentally exposing rotten tomatoes algorithm for movies they decide are good or not good. Also Eddie's review is exactly how baseball HOF voting works.

The lesson we learned here today is that Marcus is a contrarian, but that’s ok because everyone’s a contrarian.

To be honest I trust cosmonauts opinion more than these websites. The websites have a ton of people working on the reviews and articles while Cosmonaut is one guy. Even though I don’t always agree with him, at least he’s consistent

"I so wanted horror, but ended up with a borer" made me think of Gene Shalit more than Dr. Seuss. Really, a winner either way.

Armand White is the perfect contrarian reviewer. Even though he is always rating shit with anti-popular takes, he still manages to give actual, readable points (no matter how shitty they are) while also knowing when a movie is so good it deserves a good score and when a movie is so bad it deserves a bad score

Please keep this format, i love it

With KZfaq channels I try to stick with positive reviews and stuff, just bc I like to stay chill and happy. Yet I can listen to cosmonaut hate something love it