The Thorens suspension (upon which the Linn is plagiarised) is far superior...better made, better quality materials and easier to set up. The Thorens TD 160 Super was a masterpiece.

thank you.

Did not restore it. Just needed some maintenance. Thanks

Awesome! Thank you!

Thanks. That’s a ridiculous price for a repair. I suggest you look at a new Rega turntable. They are very nice and a fraction of the cost.

Nice to see you're alive John. 😉 Jim 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂

@@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox Mij...How's you? Jim's Rega!? I got new devices, I'll subscribe to your new channel.I met you here on Daves channel originally, Nice one.

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So are many other turntables. The Linn is a great sound turntable, the only problem is Linn has generated so much marketing hyperbole that exaggerates the differences between turntables. I have owned an LP-12 as well as many others and I've listened to them and many arm cartridge combos. The differences are nowhere near as great as Ivor and Linn contend. That's not to take away the LP-12's excellence especially their recent very costly versions. My favourite sounding turntable is the Oracle mk IV which I still use, to my ears it's a bit more vivid and precise... the Linn sounds a bit thicker and romantic but both are great and would suit different amp speaker combos.

Yes you can invest $25k and get a table that will last 40 years...it's called a TECHNICS SP1000R !! :)

@@MrNicks-gn8jc I think you are spot on. I point out later in this discussion that there is a reputable Linn dealer just north of Atlanta, Sound Image. Chris and Lawson are chief proprietors. It's a 4-hour drive. I suppose if I look at a new cartridge every 8-9 years and couple that with springs and a general "tune-up", perhaps it makes sense to keep the 'table. I do own a much cheaper back-up that I could live with: Thorens.

I'm looking for a Lingo as well. Thx

Just make sure it's a Lingo 4 power supply. Early models had noise issues from switch mode power supplies. Plus the four use a 12 volt AC motor with a tachometer for speed control. This guy is a hack. I can't believe anyone listens to him. He doesn't own basic setup tools and runs it through a cheap Parasound phono preamp. It seems that any clown who gets a KZfaq channel is an expert; expert at not knowing what they're doing. Watch videos from proper outlets that have sold Linns for decades(Chesire Audio for one) or any of the others.

Try Glasgow audio, I used them for my RD11 superieur last year and they were great to deal with cost me £80 for technician to go over it n went to collect expecting to pay more ,nope no more.👍

@@stevenhunter3454 Thanks, will look into that.

Thanks for your insightful comments.

Cat is not interested in my gear. Never had that experience with a dealer and platter ringing. Thanks for watching!

No thanks!

I actually received a message from the Linn service trainer in Scotland who said I did a great job!

Hint. The key to making the suspension easy to adjust, is to make sure that the three spring bolts are absolutely vertical, and not leaning to one side or the other. Linn actually makes a "bolt straightening tool" for doing this, which consists of a T shaped bar the slides over the bolt, and has a level built into the T part. You physically bend the bolts so they are straight. The currently supplied springs are very consistent, and usually require very little tweaking. Also, make sure the top grommets are properly seated, with the flange entirely inside the hole in the subchassis, and that the tonearm cable is dressed in a way that it doesn't influence the position of the subchassis. Good luck!

Sorry to hear your dilemma. Can you get Rega, Project, or Technics?

@@MODAC Thank you. I'm trying for 1200mk2 🙏🙏🙏

That is a very sad tale. I’m a DIY when it comes to mechanical projects. I leave the electronic work to the professionals. Good luck. 👍🏻

Warning: if you buy a Linn you will be sucked it to an alternate reality. I’m having fun, though.

I’ve got an Ariston rd11 and rd80 the first upon which the Linn was “ based” , amongst others that feed my compulsion and I agree there are many design flaws one would not expect from a “ high end” product , one is the continually having to pamper and cuddle them just so they do the job correctly . The irritating bounce every time you touch the arm seems one such flaw and overly done by extending to the entire arm board when it needs only to be under the tonearm itself .The Ariston Rd11 was also this way originally but it was remodeled later so the arm board was rigid apart from the separate small plate for the tonearm , which was sprung . so didn’t cause it to bounce when lifting the tonearm at the end of a record and resting one’s wrist on the arm board . The Thorens 150 is the same overly sprung design There are always pros and cons with formats thst translate a live performance into a material , repeatable format . I love my vinyl albums and turntable because they give more than the sum of the parts in pure enjoyment even with their flaws , but some of these just seem to remain due to dogmatic design and a true designer one would have thought would have recognized these flaws and sought to alleviate them , much like Roy Gandy of Rega has said is his design philosophy and all true designers of any equipment . I suppose it’s like any interest, any hobby there often is no reason or logic to explain why one loves and enjoys it , even its limitations .but the limitations and rewards add up to make the whole a more enjoyable experience . Just as classic cars are technically a pain sometimes , are obsolete , slower , need more maintenance and care etc , but when I see an e type jaguar or even an old MG or 50s Ford , I know they are far more enjoyable and loved .sometimes we love the things that are imperfect far more than those that are. At least that’s what I tell myself when I’ve broken down on a country lane in the winter or my early pressing of a rare album has developed a mysterious new scratch . But Linn turntables as great as they are , should they also be so much trouble to get to run correctly ? Because even an E Type Jag runs beautifully for years before needing an engineer just to fix the suspension settings or get the wheels aligned in balance !

@@saudade369 It does say a lot for modern turntables that are fixed, no bouncing. I guess you have seen the mag lift supported platter, it wobbles all over the place, a design gone far to far, the wow and flutter must be awful 😱 But you are right, it’s the sun of the parts 👍

Yes,I’ve been intrigued by the magnetic suspension .it seems a great idea in principle but in my limited understanding of opposing magnets providing a repelling , suspension type cushion they always have a force that is making them very unstable horizontally , and would suggest they are indeed rather unstable . I would have thought if this is the principle they’re based upon the designers would have found a way to compensate but , maybe not as much as needed . Of course I may have totally misunderstood the principle completely , physics was not my subject , pr9bably why I became an artist instead and as far away from it as possible ! It does seem an amazingly good idea though if done well .modern turntables although fixed , do have forms of suspension don’t they , just not the very highly sprung types we’ve grown to know and love ( ahem) . @@David-xl9cp

@@saudade369 I think with Hi-Fi it’s a fad lead world and what’s in this year is the best ever. You read all the fantastic must have reviews and a year later they are going in a completely different direction. I have seen so many must have hi-fi gadgets that have completely disappeared in a couple of years.

Nice. Me too!

Thanks. It’s a journey for sure. I am considering trying out a VPI table in the future. But I’m good for now.

@@MODAC I find that I keep ending up in the same spot as where I began, which is with a Thorens TD 150 Mk I upgraded according to a scheme Loricraft was offering sometime around 1990, i.e a much stronger and heavier plinth, a broader arm board and an SME 3009 tonearm. As you can probably imagine it looks almost exactly like a Linn Sondek. You can easily get tighter and more accurate turntables when it comes to speed, rhythm and bass, but the soundscape is like nothing I've come across, open and deep and almost romantic, for want of a better term. It certainly adds something to the music, and it can't just be that pleasant harmonic distortion. I've had Regas and Clearaudios, and in some ways they sound more like a master tape in a studio, but I just can't take that hammering bass and glossy black background, in fact they trigger my tinnitus and even give me muscle contractions in the face. The old Thorens girl is nothing like that; she has something that unsuspended decks, direct drives and moving coil cartridges simply don't offer. They may speak to my brain but not to my heart. At least that's been my view now since the day before yesterday ... Thanks for the video btw ...

Can't really A/B before and after, but sounds excellent. Look out for a future video of me doing a more extensive upgrade. Thanks

Nope, I decided that what I had was good and sold it.

Look in the description below. That’s the seller’s name. One not currently listed. Maybe he’ll make more if demand is there.

So you think I’m serious?

Wtf are you talking about

It’s a stretch to say I am able to discern before and after, if it sounds better with new springs. It’s maintenance, like with a car…original springs were over 30 years old. Easy to do. What did you expect?

Maybe because they can be continually updated/upgraded. A desirable Thorens is not that cheap.

@@MODACHere in Oz $3000 to $5000 will buy a TD1500 = no slouch A Linn Majik is $7,500 to A Climax at $44,000. I appreciate your response but my mind is not changed as yet

Look on eBay. That’s where I found it.

She does.

Jensen Beach I believe. Their website doesn’t even mention Linn. It’s all about home installation stuff.

@@MODAC Thanks

I responded to this post above and how I now feel about the LP12 Turntable. I live in Tennessee. Nearest Linn dealer I know of that will work on them is just north of Atlanta in Roswell, GA. Chris and Lawson at Sound Image. They used to be in Marietta.

Not continual at all. Thx