Thank you for just being open enough to change and humble enough to admit it.

Unfortunately I had an abortion and I'm now Pro Life. I've had to live with that profound regret my whole life. No one ever talks about that.

@@rlabarbera see comment above. Most ppl are pro life, they just want policies that support life so the tragedy of abortion is less carried out, less of the best option because the society supports young girls and women with unplanned pregnancies and support those children with the necessities of life once they’re here. That’s what the interviewee is saying. The billions given to fund the politics of anti-abortion and none given to support life.

@@andreac6024 If you want to take about "billions" funneled into an organization, one only has to look at Planned Parenthood which is the most fraudulent organization on earth with a history rooted in racism. I worked with at risk teens and would send them to that factory....another one of my regrets. I don't subscribe to your propaganda or that of this phony clergy man..

@@youreaquickone What part of profound regret are you not getting here? I would not wish my choice on my worst enemy. I have to take that to my grave and so will many who make this choice. Does the baby get a choice? What if your mother made that choice? You would not be tsk tsk-ing if she had, now, would you?...

And it's exactly what we see in the pro-life mob of today.

Also you’re not pro-life if you support capital punishment or sending people off to war including drone pilots who drop bombs on other people…..and then there are the pro-life issues that have to do with quality of life, health care, food programs, etc.

_When you don't see the mother as human, you're no longer pro-life._ Who on earth does that?

@@craigsmith1443 Who sees the mother as not human? Is that what you’re asking? Seriously, rhetorically, or facetiously? The answer is that the judgmental zealots, against women’s right to choose, demonize their “enemies,” especially women who want or need an abortion, and they no longer see the women as human. They’ve lost their compassion and do exactly what their “Lord Jesus” stood against. Does this answer your question?

@@missingcasey Pro-birth people. They don't care that a woman can die giving birth, they just want to force her to give birth, even if it kills her.

Dignity is shunned on the Farcical Opinionated Xenophobic noise cable channels. They never even give dignity to those that quit to pursue journalism.

Please don’t stop saying “Pro-Choice”! Why? Because we can’t say this nation is based on “Freedom” is 1/2 of its citizens can’t choose to be free.

So true, women were for example not mentioned by Alito. Like they don´t exist in this at all.

@@annakatariina1276 That's because the SCOTUS was deciding if _Roe v Wade_ was properly decided. It was not. It was a travesty railroaded so hard by Justice Blackmun that clerks of the court called the case, 'Harry's Abortion.' It invented whole concepts and read them into the Constitution, calling them 'penumbra' i the opinion which was an admission that they were never there. Overturning _Roe_ was correct. Now it's up to the states, where it belongs.

Being pro-choice IS being pro-dignity. Don't believe anything this man says. He is still the enemy of women! ~ Anastacia in Cleveland

Agreed. I have pastored two conservative churches and been in ministry many years. I have been aware of the politization of the abortion issue. Rob's is one of most remarkable and moving testimonies I've recently heard.

No, he spoke to nothing in the pro-life movement at all. He spoke about straw men, but he didn't address the real issue, the life and humanity of the unborn child. What did John Stuart Mill say in _On Liberty_ : _He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion…He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them…he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form_ Sorry, but Bob Schenck doesn't know or do that. Killing is never an answer to changed plans.

@@rev.johnpate3231 does God not love all its children uniquely identified by a complex DNA code? If so and the unborn has its own unique DNA code does God love these children? How would God look at a women who let her baby starve to death before giving the child her nipple?

​@@craigsmith1443I am curious. Robert Schenck has been active in the pro-life movement for decades, and has moved away from it. That seems to me to be the epitome of a man who knows multiple sides of the case. So why did you quote John Stuart Mill's "He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that."? It genuinely feels as if John Stuart Mill's argument supports Robert Schenck's position as a witness.​

@@terraincognita3749 And I once was pro-choice and am now pro-life. Am I not also equally authoritative as Robert Schenck? Schenck is wrong. Humans will do that. Killing a child is never the answer.

I completely agree.

This astounds me that a woman would need 5-7 abortions in a lifetime. Why don’t we compromise on abortion for rape and insest and free or low cost birth control for low income women?

@@lindaestoll1104 The government could dictate exceptions and price limits but these get complicated because everyone circumstances are different, and things change. Hence, the logic that the women can best decide for herself what is feasible. Roe was a compromise. Without it, it truly is legislating moral reasoning, values and ethics, life trajectory, gender relations, professional health decisions, financial planning, and even national population demographics. Consider this: Forced productive labour is not permitted, and even voluntary, is compensated with a wage, but forced reproductive labour or making human life is now coerced by threat, and uncompensated.

So true. I was around before RVW and saw the chaos and suffering. Too many girls had to drop out of high school and college and end up on welfare living a life that wasn't in their hopes or dreams. My mother's best friend ended up in the hospital twice with hemorrhaging from self-induced abortions. She already had a bunch of kids with her husband and they wanted a cap on the numbers.

@@lindaestoll1104 the problem with your argument is 'WE'. That's a personal, private decision. Planned Parenthood provides all kinds of birth control and other services. Let's keep the 'WE' out of it

The reverse can be said

@@chrisgrace81 not in the platform of the GOP.

Rip to a legend

Even the preborn aren't going to be fine in the 12 red states that still reject the Medicaid expansion of Obamacare. The health of their pregnancies will go unmonitored by ob/gyns, so any fetal health problems won't be detected, or even things that could make a home delivery deadly, like breach positioning, twins, etc.

Until you can be drafted and become a DEAD SOLDIER at 18. (Also George.)

It certainly is now.

Yup

Who wants to reduce contraception? It is about power over people and the evil that they want to commit. I also want power over people to not murder 10 year old children in play grounds or anywhere else.

@@firepower7654 195 House Republicans Voted Against Birth Control Protections The House passed the Right to Contraception Act, which would codify the right to birth control amid fears that conservatives are coming for that next. And they won't stop until they do. They (repubs) want to cut SS, medicaid, want no part of parental leave, child care. Did you even listen to this broadcast??

@@firepower7654 Listen to how you're talking. You did not hear what the reverand said.

She is an accomplished interviewer.

@@peggystoutemorin4529 it certainly shows. I hope others are watching and learning, because.. wow.

Let’s subject do talking

Yet she asks no questions on the other side. Everyone wanted it to be safe, legal and rare- but now we average 1 million abortions a year since Roe. I’m firmly in the middle, but I’m tired of hearing only 1 side. Ask the hard questions

@@natalieanderson3951 what does being in the middle mean for you, do you mean it like, you don't have a strong opinion on the topics, or more like you kindof agree with both sides?

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Be thankful you were born, else you couldn't formulate this sentence. Thank your mother.

@@MrMcgooOG I'm thankful that if my mom had needed to have an abortion it was legal for her during her child bearing years. I however will not have that right.

But no empathy for the child, the father of the child, or the society built to support its citizens. I'm willing to bet he didn't pray on it and get that message from God.

@@MrMcgooOG That is nonsensical. If my mother had had an abortion I wouldn't exist so I couldn't think of such a thing. My mother did have an abortion and that fetus was lucky not to have been born to an incestous father.

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One of the hardest, riskiest, and therefore bravest things to do.

Yes, despite his previous, awful actions, he did have the intelligence and strength to change and share that publicly.

agree. He really woke up !

And so how many of these forced pregnancies did he help with financially after the baby was born? And also how many of these kids has he adopted and supported?

I feel like yours and other women with similar stories are not honored enough. I'm sorry for what you were put through.

Same here in NYS. Pro life movement lied A LOT and have blood on their hands.

EXACTLY!!

Absolutely, it started in the 1980s by evangelicals as a pathway to political power. Period.

Please be careful not to lump "them" all together. For both scientific and social reasons I am pro-life. But I am also a strong supporter of a strong social net, services like you list above etc., etc. So while, yes, many Republican pro-lifers surely fit the stereotype above, not all pro-lifers fit it. Stereotypes are unfair wherever they are applied.

@@pegsiciliano8858 ok so put the same energy into the social safety net as you would into making abortion the hill to die on.

@@pegsiciliano8858 You are a rare one, VERY RARE.

DITTO!!!!!

So true. But their disregard starts well before the child is born. They don’t care about or support the mothers before or during their pregnancies either.

You are absolutely right and correct about this.

Use federal lands as safe havens in every state. Sounds different but maybe it could work? Especially safe havens for victims of incest and rape, because that cruelty is indefensible.

You forget the hypocrisy of all the pro life pastors, politicians and businessmen who will fly their own relations to the ends of the earth to get them an abortion.

Look up Frank Schaeffer. He was involved in the Moral Majority and abortion movement (late 70's to early 80's) along with his dad Francis Schaeffer, Jerry Falwell, Dobson, et al. But he finally saw the light too, and left more than the MM behind. His reading is perceptive and introspective.

Agree. I’m moved by his talk but it’s hard to trust him.

I grew up and went to college in buffalo. I remember this guy and his followers. I actually have an uncle who would be with him at the clinics. An uncle who was radicalized by Schenk. My uncle was a cool nice Catholic guy who almost overnight became a hateful screaming misogynist judgmental bigot. To this day I still don't really talk to him to this day though he seems to have settled down a little.. Schenk was brutal and cruel and was always looking for the cameras. He had a look of hate on his face all the time. His followers were perfectly ready to be violent and no less judgmental. Fuck this guy. I do not forgive him. A doctor was shot and killed in front of his children as he was serving them breakfast because of Schenk. May Schenk never have a moment's peace.

_needs a much wider audience than this platform alone provides._\ Perhaps the 'audience' has already judged the banal evil of his position.

So eloquently stated, and I agree 100%.

You are absolutely right.

It is utterly baffling how much "pro-life" actually means the exact opposite, at every moment in time, other than when a person is pregnant. Once that kid pops out, screw them, screw the parent, get yourself a better life I don't owe you nuthin.

My comment has apparently been previously censured by KZfaq as I declare that the purpose of the abortion ban ruling is to prepare the way for convincing minor girls to consent to surrogate parenting for hire. Thus a technical rape can be gotten away with by promising before and after payments to young women who will never see the second payment. Whether or not they get the consent of a legal guardian or parent. thus the working class young women will be duped into getting impregnated with a turkey baster; and ruining their lives, while providing the Ruling Class with a source of laborers AKA financially shackled slaves. KZfaq is immoral for censuring this.

That’s because it is more about control and misogyny than being pro-life.

A husband will be forced to decide between his wife's or his baby's life (if something life threatening goes wrong - she ruptures internally, etc). The mother will under this law be guilty of manslaughter and the husband an accomplice after the fact. So the husband MUST kill his wife or risk a lengthy jail sentence.

This is what they don't get when they try to equate both sides. Until someone forces them to get an abortion or a gay marriage, it is not the same.

I'm "on your side," but unfortunately it's not that simple, because as "they" see it, Roe forced some "persons" to die (against their will.) That's why this issue isn't so easy to settle: It involves fundamentally-different, possibly-irreconcilable worldviews.

It forces them to go against what they believe is a right!

@Lesley T I noticed Clarence didn't mention interracial marriage in his list of rights that need to be addressed. It's almost like he thinks he's not black. If he keeps this sh*t up, ole Clarence will have that realization, but it'll be too late by then for even him to be safe.

@Lesley T Exactly. If Thomas pulls down marriage equality, and he already wrote as much directly into his grotesque opinion that no other justice signed, then he is pulling down Loving as well, because both cases are built around privacy, and Loving was used as the foundation for the marriage equality case. This is an unkind thought, I try not to think that way, but I now find happiness in the thought that Thomas is the oldest justice, and Alito isn't so young either. That would leave us with Kavanaugh, Barrett and Gorsuch, and now that bunch doesn't look so scary. Plus Justice Brown Jackson is likely to bring a new energy. We must vote democratic for a while, so that future justices will restore balance and give chief justice Roberts his court back.

Well, yes....Anti choice of life and murder. I would agree.

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This is a man who seems to have never been interested in carving out a position of ever growing personal power in an ever more increasingly authoritarian government. For thirty years he has been unscrupulously used as a useful idiot by those who have and are seeking that power.

Nope. They're a cult. A very tiny small miniscule number change their minds.

Very eloquent speaker (and courageous!). Thank you for the transparent honesty.

I still don’t get the point of the story of the crying woman in jail ( who’s caring for my 3 babies?)

2 wrongs don't make a right. Better to find a solution that does not require killing an innocent. I feel for these terrible situations but cannot give in to the tearing a child from the womb. That action is just as ugly as the situation that got it there.

None of your fucking business. American Taliban .

THANK YOU!!!!

@@liljade53 Your answer is part of the problem as it helps no one. We can dream of all the perfect solutions we want but that doesn’t change reality. The only moral solution is to leave women to make these deeply personal decisions at their own discretion. No human being should have the government regulating their body or potentially criminalizing it against them, period.

@@megansullivan9377 "No human being should have the government regulating their body or potentially criminalizing it against them, period." except when it involves the harming of another, then it's up to the government to protect all of it's citizens.

If we are going to talk about children, don't we need to include those children murdered by abortion?

It’s contempt for the feminine and desire to rule over it.

_is not motivated by compassion for pregnant women who seek abortions, but contempt. That’s so real and disturbing._ No, it's a lie. 'This group' as you put it with careless bigotry, has compassion for mother and child. Ask any mother who has raised a child that she at first wanted to abort, and hear her speak of the love they now share, and realize what you advocate without a single thought. You have contempt for children and for women, for you apparently believe that women cannot learn to love instead of fear.

​@@craigsmith1443: yes, mothers who at first wanted to end their pregnancy then decided to bring their pregnancy to term, give birth, and raise their child often speak of the love they discovered that made all the difference. Certainly! The point Rev. Schenck makes, though, isn't about those women; it's about THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT itself, which he now sees is not motivated by compassion for pregnant women who seek abortions. Why? Because Schenck says the pro-life Movement isn't interested in ending abortion through arguing in favor of providing access to the practicalities of bringing their pregnancy to term (psychological care), giving birth (neonatal assistance), and raising the child (in the case of people not financially equipped to foot the bill for it; it's expensive)-- the support and care ethic. Schenck is saying that the pro-life Movement is only interested in making abortion illegal, which is strictly a law-and-order orientation to the issue. Of course, there's nothing wrong, as such, with having law and order in society, but if the pro-life Movement argues that (1) abortion is an emotionally difficult life decision as women contemplate everything they will need to undergo and everything they will need and what support they actually have, and (2) women and their doctors simply need to go to jail if they choose abortion, then the Movement is not motivated by compassion but rather by contempt (that women put themselves in that situation, that they aren't able to afford raising a family, etc.). The interviewer, Michelle Martin, indirectly alludes to this in min. 4:10 - 4:51 of the video when she asks rhetorically about who are the people most interested in this law-and-order orientation to dealing with the abortion issue.

FACTS

Not for this man, but for many others, those circumstances and outcomes ARE the intent.

They are hypocrites. They work for Caesar. They love to inflict pain, suffering and misery.

That's a feature not a bug.

@@beefandbarley for Moloch

I really appreciate that he acknowledges women are unique individuals (aka people) and that all pregnancies are unique.

SUSTAINED MY FRIEND!

How about sharing it on your social media so more people can watch it? We can help spread the word.

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I hate abortion. I am pro choice. My older sister was a foster Mom for many decades, and adopted many kids. Most were physically or mentally handicapped. Parents caused it or could not cope. I am pro choice because I'm pro child.

So very true. There is no sympathy for the woman or the child; they are framed as a slut and her little burden on society. There is no recognition of her humanity, of the circumstances which may have led to her situation, whether she is in a loving relationship where a mutual decision has been made or a victim of abuse trying to avoid the worst fate for a future child, or even the children she already has.

Cross your legs and act like a lady if you don't want a child

For over 200 years before the Roe v Wade decision our country made great strides without barbaric abortions. Many countries around the world make great strides without abortion. Many families within the United States even during the time at which abortion was legal have done fantastic without an abortion in their lives. Many people who have had abortions have not necessarily feared much better in life because of their abortion. Many parents who were against abortion and didn't feel that they could take care of the child made a tough decision to give the child up for adoption many of those children have experienced what some may feel is a far better life than they would have experienced with their biological parents and some far worse but the fact of the matter is they experienced life beyond the wound which gave them a chance at life.

Too late. Where was he yesterday, last week, last month, last year, last decade? How many funerals will he attend?

I don't agree with the pro life position. But people like Reverend Schenk I can thoroughly respect. This interview should be heard by everyone on both sides of the debate.

I'm not buying Schenck's dramatic display of contrition. The guy was a fame-hungry publicity hound back in the day, and such dogs don't change their spots. He lied and manipulated people back then, and he may well be doing that now. I can just about accept that he's shifted his position on abortion, but he still calls himself an evangelical preacher, and that job comes with all sorts of nasty baggage.

Makes sense.

Pro-choice and anti-abortion. When it is men's time to go through pregnancy, men can co-decide whether abortion should be illegal.

I’m for abortion. Don’t say no one is for it, m not a believer in the Christian theology .I believe in rebirth, if the soul is in the fetus after 5 or 6 months it will leave the body if the fetus dies ,miscarries or is aborted , the soul will come into another body, most Hindu and Buddhist and sects of other like mystical Jews and sufis believe this. I can’t stand that crazy Christian fanatics are leading USA.

@@radhikaschwartz3499 perhaps I was unclear. Abortion is a tragedy and a trauma I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy but a woman’s right to choose should be absolute. I’m a veterinarian of many 10 day Vipassana courses and it is my practice so I definitely align with your view. Apologies for the lack of clarity.

I completely agree. I’m pro choice and I want there to be a world with as few abortions as possible. We achieve this by investing in our fellow citizens through universal healthcare for all, including mothers and children, easily available contraception, comprehensive sex ed, universal child care, paid family leave for both parents, $15 minimum wage, expanded housing assistance, improving quality of public schools, affordable college; all policies that will help men and women raise healthy families. This, to me, is what it means to be pro life, pro family, pro people, and pro choice.

Thank you--this gets overlooked SO often.

Yes, exactly.

Well said and I totally agree. The Catholics on the court are trying to control all of us. They won't be satisfied with abortion bans, but on contraception, too. It's unbelievable and unacceptable.

Kiska Kuznetsova, I’m not pro abortion but I never understood a church that was allegedly pro life yet had a problem with contraception. Shalom Aleichem

People can change and atone for their mistakes. I am glad he was able to tell his story😊

Amy Coney Barrett is a freak and I’m Catholic but still American! (I got that phrase from Ana Navarro)

No extremist catholics...just extremist evangelicals

Never judge another on any decision. Make your own decisions. Leave others alone. Very simple. Wipe your own bottom.

Should we apply this same rule to infanticide?

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@@pedroparamo891 It's not infanticide no matter how many times you say it

It always has been this. This is just a rending of the veil.

Also truly uncomfortable that women are less free in some states. Very Jim Crowe, very Mason Dixon line antebellum, very disgusting. And there actually is a part of the constitution that mentions that no one may be less free in one area of the nation. (Don't quiz me on this, I think it's something like article four? Maybe is it the equal protection clause?). Scary times, let's vote harder!!

That view is as old as time...but I can do without the hypocrisy of claiming it's all about helping the women and their child. IT"S ABOUT CONTROLLING WOMEN AND POLITICAL POWER.

Forcing women to be incubators of unwanted children is treating them as livestock.

Republican Cranial Rectosis: the view never changes and everything seems to stink. 💩🤢🤮👹🤡👺👻🤖 Vote Blue forever 💙💙💙💙

Should the child have a say in if they are born or not? Are poor children not worthy? Should abused children just be euthanized? What do you think poor abused children would choose if offered life vs a quick needle exit? Such arrogance on your part of who is worthy to live or die.

Plus medical privacy. What other medical decisions can now be made for us? Are our medical records no longer private? It's not about the right to abortion, it's also about the right to privacy.

What about putting ourselves "in the shoes" of the unborn child that will never have a chance to live? But that human is very, very small, and doesn't look like us, so it is easy to ignore its needs. The life of grown woman is not more valuable than that small child's, just because she is the bigger of the two.

@@pegsiciliano8858 YES, IT IS. IT IS NOT ALIVE YET. SHE IS!! SHE DESERVES TO LIVE!!

@@pegsiciliano8858 The "unborn child" has no shoes to fill, and contemplating a life that never has a chance to live is also absurd or moot.

@@pegsiciliano8858 If someone needed a blood transfusion to live, and I was the only one who could donate blood to save him, NO ONE CAN FORCE ME TO GIVE BLOOD. Even to save the life of a fully-grown person. It is ILLEGAL to FORCE me to donate blood if I don't want to. We have this concept called BODILY AUTONOMY. It means that a person's control over their own body is an absolute. It's generally considered a human right and why you can't be forced to donate blood, tissue, or organs. We can't even take LIFE SAVING ORGANS from CORPSES unless that person gave consent before their death. Even if those body parts would save or improve 20 lives. Even corpses get Bodily Autonomy. To tell women they MUST sacrifice their bodily autonomy for nine months, against their will, in an incredibly expensive and invasive process to save what the pro-lifer views as another human life is DESPERATELY UNETHICAL; remember, you can't even force people to sacrifice Bodily Autonomy after they died! A fetus is using someone else's body parts. Therefore, under Bodily Autonomy, it's there by permission, not by right. It needs a woman's continuous consent. If the pregnant woman denies or withdraws consent, she has every right to remove the fetus. A fetus is equal to a person in that regard, since if I need someone else's body parts to live, that person can deny me their use. Pro-Lifers are: (1) Demanding people who can become pregnant to accept less bodily autonomy than we grant to dead bodies. (2) Granting a fetus more rights to another people's body than we grant any born person. It's also worth noting that granting a fetus "person-hood" doesn't help the pro-lifer's position, since no person can make a demand on another person's body to survive.

If you grow up in a conservative culture in a conservative religion, it's easy to fall for that notion, since so much of that sort of culture is very "life affirming", it even refuses to understand pain and suffering at times. I think Rev. Shenck is learning what it means to carry a cross in a broken world. His move towards Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a sign he's on the right track. Bonhoeffer understood the temptations of political power and how it could lead an entire nation astray spiritually.

And parenthood is brutal, not to be take on lightly and definitely not to be pushed onto the unwilling.

@@fleurosea Especially considering (amongst other things) that the same people who are anti-abortion are most often against gun control.

'Pregnancy may not be a trip to Disneyland' however in the coming weeks you will be able to get take a trip to California to get your abortion and then visit Disney all paid for by your employer.

@@fleurosea animals seem to be doing quite fine with it. When people look for too much they don't usually get what they're looking for.

Republicans just don't care about us , if we suffer they enjoy .

Your mind is simple, cut your coupons and shop on HSN.

@@MrMcgooOG My father is Dr. Richard T Quick MD, the criminally insane psychiatrist. He is also a die-hard Trump supporter. He is online because of this.

This is a good man, who found his movement had been hijacked by people who truthfully didn't care about (or even secretly despised) those they purported to defend, all motivated by the quest for political power. I can feel his sorrow.

Hats off to him (Rev. Rob Schenck) ; the first time I learned about him was in separation of Church and State newsletter. I was encouraged to hear someone like him. Unfortunately, we are now experiencing abusive and spiteful conservative US Supreme Court Justices against minorities (though one them is): women for now; who is the next target of group we can never know; keep guessing and be uncertain , that is the goal!

@@charlesmartin1121 I don't think it started out that way, but, as he said, political power is attractive, and it has certainly ended up that way.

I wish everybody could hear this, too!

Listen and understand. We're drowning in information while thirsting for some understanding.

America will lose a generation of younger women.

We will not lose our young women because we will fight this with the ballot. November is close upon us. Time to check the ID, find extra bottles of water and folding chairs. Vote blue in all primaries, all state offices. This cannot be allowed to stand. Legislation to support the use of federal lands as safe havens in each state, why not? We must think outside the box. Pro bono lawyers, please get ready. Maternal injury, wrongful death, lost wages, etc etc.

How many funerals will he attend? Zilcho.

I could feel his sorrow and disillusion--if more people were like the Reverend (honest and self reflective) this would be a more justice world.

Indeed!

SUSTAINED MY FRIEND! I LOVE IT!

I hope the GOP pays at the polls.

@@cheriremily9360 Me too but with the economy in shambles and Democrats not providing meaningful material relief, I doubt it. The “relief” that Republicans will provide-austerity on steroids- is too sickening to imagine, but angry voters will definitely give them their turn anyway.

They will one way or another...

600, 000 humans are sacrificed every year to satisfy the will of the abortionists. The multi-billion dollar abortion industry has told you that you have a right to choose whether or not you want to be pregnant what they don't tell you is that if you do it you'll likely regret it for the rest of your life. The abortion industry doesn't tell you that you have options other than abortion. After you have an abortion you can't change your mind.

ShouId we mention that these are poor states (except Texas) that don't puII themseIves up by their own bootstraps and have their hand out to the Fed to pay for their needs?

We are heading towards autocracy. We are not a nation divided. We are in a war. Consider recently the Trumpist Supreme Justices with other Republican Justices voted to: 1) overturn RvW; 2) removal of separation of church and state by allowing Christian prayer in public schools; 3) to remove the EPA's power to pass regulations regarding climate change. This last one is not getting the attention deserved in the media. This precedent means agencies can be 100% controlled by our government.

Forcing birth by rape victims is exercising sexualized control of a female. 10 states have no exceptions for abortions, including rape, incest, age, or viability of the fetus. We are sanctioning child sexual abuse by forcing children to give birth. In a state such as this, a gang raped or sex trafficked child would be forced to carry a fetus...then, if the fetus dies in utero, would be forced by induced labor to give birth. Let that sink in a minute! *Edit: this the Law for 10 states.*

This is the way the USA is viewed by a majority (hard to call this a democracy) of its own citizens.

@@mtaylor7307 2) allowing prayer.... Is ironically in my mind a repudiation of Christianity as the recorded words of Jesus say be not as the hypocrites.... So exactly what theocracy are our politicians (or judges if you wish to call them that) aiming for? They seem to be muddling around in the dark, trampling as many of our sacred rights and precepts as possible.

@@mtaylor7307 sorry, you did say autocracy. I guess they can decide for themselves what to save or cut without reference to any religion. But the climate is even more important. The banning of abortion is an abominable act. What would the judgement be against any civilian practicing medicine without a license? Like someone who performs back alley abortions. Preventing the correct and adequate care of pregnant women is likely to be no better. We have highly placed powerful judges engaging in medical malpractice without ever having mastered medicine. Will they eventually be sentenced for the lives they butcher? And again, the climate is even more important than abortion which is critical. If one is born into a world unfit to sustain life, birth is a cruelty that should not be inflicted on anyone. God it is said made us stewards of the earth. I think we are on the verge of being fired.

Well said!!

Implicit in the “rape and incest” argument is that women who are not victims of these crimes do not “ deserve” to make critical choices about their lives. A woman having sex is not a crime and a child is not righteous punishment for any crime. One in four women in the United States has at least one abortion. Most of them became pregnant through a failure of contraception. Most have children with their husband or partner. Becoming pregnant in the course of normal family life is not a crime. They don’t have to prove their innocence. They are entitled to decide whether to continue the pregnancy. End of story.

My cousin who is an evangelical Christian bragged to me that she counseled an 11 year old who was the victim of incest to continue her pregnancy. This showed me she cared nothing for this child’s health and well-being. She had been totally brainwashed by her church elders to place their doctrine over love and caring. Fortunately the child had the abortion.

And your solution for that is to tell those same vulnerable and ignorant children to kill their own child? You can't see a better solution? Tell me something, how many of the 650,000 abortions that occurred in 2021 were a result of rape and or incest, and of that number how many of them were children? Now since you said is not an adult and not good decision making age who should make the decision for her? Should she make her own decision as the mother, or should the mother's mother make the decision, or perhaps the mother's father, or the mother's doctor? And if the child doesn't want an abortion but everyone else does, what should happen?

@@TruckTaxiMoveIt your reasoning is proof that abortion is a private matter that should be decided between a woman or her doctor. It shouldn't be a matter of public discussion nor should statistics be available. Besides, most people who have abortions have children already.

"Troubling" to you, a MALE ... TERRIFYING to the majority of females.

Me too.

Domestic white babies

There are children across America asking for a good home. They are not babies but they need you to help them!

Adoption market is a slavery market.

Translation: There’s a shortage of supply of white babies

While I appreciate the quote, it's really a quote from the CDC which he pasted into his brief, that was discussing the demographic rate of adoptions....which of course have been declining for years. It's a terrible quote, which was incorrectly reported on more than one MSNBC program, but wasn't meant to be as sinister as it sounds. Also, Alito is an egotistical lunatic.

BS.

The so-called anti-abortion stand of most republicans is about the money that states had to pay planned parenthood' for women's healthcare, many will realize and be just like this guy. The rest do not have a clue!

It takes a long time for men to "get it" though.

And on top of that, the mostly wealthy GOP politics will always have the option of traveling where ever they need to for the option of abortion and they know it.

Too late. Why didn’t he speak up before?

@@beefandbarley I know and you are right but I think it is important that he's speaking up now.

Well analyzed.

I agree with you 100%!

As a man, I believe I have no right to tell any woman what she should do about a pregnancy, so I think you and I will agree on that point. But I find it impossible to be impressed with Schenck. Call me a horrible old cynic if you will, but he still bills himself as an evangelical preacher. Evangelical preachers are either complete fruitcakes, stupid and actually believe the crap they spew, or they have a natural talent for manipulating and exploiting people, and they chose the religious con game as an easy, legal way to make a nice living. I have no idea what Schenck is up to with this new, supposedly enlightened position of his, but I strongly suspect he's getting _something_ tangible out of it.

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Abortion is painful and expensive, but what it isn't is "terrible." When every form of birth control is 100% effective, when every zygote is welcomed by the woman who carries it, when every pregnant woman's personal life and health and womb remain wonderful, safe and hospitable till fetal viability at 20 weeks, abortion after that point still won't be terrible. When done to preserve the life of the mother or spare the fetus intolerable suffering, abortion, much like miscarriage, is surely tragic but not terrible. Forced gestation and birth of an unwanted baby? Now THAT is truly terrible.

@@mizaucontraire9224 I shouldn't have generalised. I was trying to keep breaching the wall that stops pro-choice and pro-life from having a conversation where we hear each other instead of seeing the other side as monsters for what they advocate. However my language further served to stigmatise abortion negatively, in a culture that already does that strongly. Nonetheless I, myself, do think it's terrible, as in a serious and distressing choice/event/bad situation to be in. Because it is painful and expensive, and leaves many women in distress even if they know it was the right choice for them. Because I think it's terribly sad to have to chose to give up a potential child, because of health reasons, or financial reasons, or because the woman is too young to have to be a mother, or any number of other reasons that lead women to choose abortion. No women makes that choice lightly, and the very weight of it makes it terrible in my view. Especially when there are plenty of effective solutions in existence that would stop women from having to be in the position of having to make that choice (proper sex ed for men and women, and encouraged use of contraceptives being at the top of that list). And yes all you've said is worse, and often leads to more terrible situations. It's why so many women do make that choice, why they have to be allowed to judge their own situation, and why taking the initiative from them is a violation of human rights.

That's why I like Sleepy Joe. He's usually asleep & does less damage.

Whereas the Republican motto is “Misery loves company.”

@@beefandbarley i thought it was "it's ok when we do it"

You'd be surprised how an issues involving faith and religion will lead people to do the unimaginable. Don't drink the Kool Aid

Cognitive dissonace is a hell of a drug, and probably groomed and encouraged in some circles. The mind is slippery and has blind spots and short cuts. Some people learned well how to exploit them

Delusion and fantasy.

Shameful!

He opened the flood gates. There ain’t jack that he can do. This kind of Pollyanna bs hope is the mark of a coward.

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Truly heartfelt and fantastic interview !!!

God is Santa Claus for adults. Grow up.

That chump released the Kraken.

Amen, I couldn't have put it better!

So we'll said!!!

Right on Bertha! Totally agree!

Men in robes should not tell women what to do.

I m 64. I am grateful that abortion was available to me when I was a young woman of 23. I fear for the young women today who have to navigate in this uncertain and treacherous landscape.

@@Ellecram yes. I agree ☝️ We need to vote as many Democrats in the office as we can and then we need to make them codify abortion as law. And birth control. And marriage equality. Can you imagine that they’re talking about birth control! Did you hear that many women are on birth control to ease their period symptoms and for other medical reasons besides not wanting to get pregnant. But not wanting to get pregnant is also a fine and IMPORTANT reason to be on birth control. I swear. This country is just unbelievable today. Nice chatting with you. ✌🏻

@@Nan-59 It is beyond insane that they are actually talking about restrictions on birth control. I feel like we have been bludgeoned with a pick axe full of crazy! I hope that enough people turn out to vote so we can at least stem this avalanche. Good luck in the coming days with the unraveling shitshow we find ourselves swimming in!

@@Ellecram Yes! And to you!!