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UK has not know out, is italian engineering ,

@@valerianocuomo996 I don’t understand your point but Britain is a richer country than Italy but I do appreciate Italian engineering and design is also top quality.

@@valerianocuomo996 as I said Italian design and engineering is first class but so is British. Look at Formula One and the hifi industry with companies such as Linn and Rega we are world leaders.

@@tonyjedioftheforest1364 italy is first all in: only germany has a engineering most best

@Plan B marketing. Advies & Management BL?

@@christabob1 What is he talking about Chris?

@@mrsiborg I have no idea mate. B L, all I can think of is British Leyland from the 70's lol. I think he's German so hold a grudge that we bombed his home town. Lol

@@christabob1 Well they bombed our chippy so...

@Plan B marketing. Advies & Management Try hard troll.. lol they got the current best Submarine and the best Frigate in the western navy... Typhoon better than the f35 which is an expensive joke.

Smaller and less trouble than the underpowered Sikorsky S-92 / CH-148 Cyclone. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-92

@@madsteve9 isn't Canada in love with the Cormorants? An updated version of that would be ideal for the long range capabilities required I imagine?

@@jt5765 It was the Canadian experience during the late 70's / early 80's operating their Sea Kings, from their Frigates that directly led to AW101 Merlin. But post Cold War, their price scared them, and their Maritime Patrol variant of the Merlin, was cancelled. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_CH-149_Cormorant Instead they ordered a variant of the Sikorsky S-92. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-148_Cyclone I read somewhere recently that, there is a redeployment of Canadian SAR AW101 Cormorant. They have been moved to the most Easterly and Westerly bases, because of their overwater range. Also set to have a flight moved to the High Arctic region. So it's possibly, this will lead to a shortage, and could lead to a follow on order. **** Shame that the 2 French built Assault Carriers LPH, that were built for Russia (now owned by Egypt) weren't bought. (I think it was the cost of stripping out the Russian, equipment that put them off). Canada will certainly need something like this, with likely Russian & Chinese aggressive behaviour in the High Arctic, and the real likelihood of a fast passage to Europe via the Bering Sea from East Asia.

Just to let you know " Westland " Also built US Helicopters such as Seaking and AH64s. Leonardo inherited this British company that developed the Lynx Widcat and Merlin.

@@thomasfromswindon7609 the Merlin or AW101 was jointly developed with Agusta and the Lynx was a joint venture with Aerospatiale. The Wildcat is an updated Super Lynx and is probably the only thing uniquely British designed, though a lot of production was sent out to Poland. Westland Helicopters ceased to exist 20 years ago. Anyone waving the British flag at this company is sadly mistaken. It's owned and run by Italians.

@@The_man_himself_67 You seem to enjoy that fact Richard!

@@tonkerdog1 not at all, I have worked there for 30 years. Sadly, all the great British industries have either folded or been sold off to foreign ownership. People need to wake up and smell the Italian coffee I'm afraid. Lack of government strategic thinking has destroyed our manufacturing base. LH is not a British company and hasn't been for a long time.

Who cares if the company isn’t British, if the helicopters are built in the U.K. it’ll be a boost for British industry and provide much needed jobs, it may lead to a similar situation as the one Westland had with Sikorsky where Westland built and sold license built Sikorsky designs to other countries.

Is it not also Italian engineering?

Remember Augusta/Westland was established in July 2000 as an Anglo-Italian company? Two great helicopter companies merged together Augusta Bell from Italy & Westland helicopters from the UK to form Augusta Westland, with each holding a 50%. 🇯🇲🇯🇲

@@waynemcfarlane1233 Yet they are part of Leonardo, HQ are in ROME, Italy and the main board is all Italian! Great nations working together.

Depends who owns or has shares in the company. 🇬🇧

It's just another UK Gov cock up with the MOD just like the Nimrod aircraft fuck up when I was laid off and nearly lost my home for the 2nd time thanks to the UK Gov and so called job center ! The first time I lost my home was thanks to the Dunblane cover up and lies. :(

Is engineering of italy, England has not CAPABILITY

@@valerianocuomo996 England have bigger aerospace than Italy Idioto!!!

@@martinburke362 ahah,AVIO : build space rocket s for sat .italian they have CAPABILITY s .from 10 YEARS, helpless of NASA or russian,rocket s in orbit .in the world only: USA,RUSSIA JAPAN ITALY FRANCE CHINA INDIA....UK ,THEY HAVE FAILED a week ago ,THE UK space agency with the Virgin ...italy space AGENCY they have most of 10 YEARS of launching s ,italian and french engineering of the Space is incredibile, has failed also the germany ....UK? Ahahah fromi ndustrial revolution they are 300year s ...miss Thacher is the distroyer of the great bretagna

@@valerianocuomo996 England still have bigger aerospace industry, Italy have to have help from Francais, italia Francais Bitch

@@martinburke362 ahah,AVIO Space is first booster to Space in Europe...france and italy they are 2giant s ,also in microchip s, Stellantis, industrial armament ,warship s, UK is very lucky with the italian s in TEMPEST PROGECT ...UK IS ONLY FINANCE, becouse they not ACCEPT

Why? We live in a global economy. Nothing else is made solely in any one country.

@@russellmiles2861 all of russia- swedwn- france_ America. India is not buying overseas gear now. It is cheaper and you will never be in short supply.

@@MrGrim2u1987 well, you can believe that if you wish. It is just not true.

@@russellmiles2861 Why? Because it is good for the UK economy, workforce, and military construction know-how. Just because we are in a global economy does not mean we can't put our own country's interests first.

@@MrShadowfax42 actually it harms the economy by diverting capital and scares skills from more productive activity.

It'd be amazing if the MoD would order some new 101's for CSAR role. Norway's order is nearing completion and Italy have a CSAR variant operating that was built in Yeovil so the aircraft is designed & ready to build pending parts lead times. AW149 looks to be a very important & capable airframe for the future which is actually new when compared to the black hawk which is based on a very old although improved airframe & the issue ridden NH-90.

@@jt5765 The British Army Top Brass, now say whatever the USA has we want. They really wanted, 70's tech Blackhawks. NH-90. together with the Tigre attack Helicopter, is the reason, no one really wants Germany for a partner. The German Government, will not pay for Spare Parts or for ongoing R&D. Which is counterintuitive to German manufacturing industry experience since 1946. The TTH variant is dreadful. And both aircraft are often grounded due to parts availability. See Australia, buying the Apache, to replace the Tigres. Which will probably be sold spares.

@@madsteve9 The Korean Military really wanted to extend their Wildcat order but politics got in the way. UK & Italy have a closely tied military industrial complex at least on the rotor craft front. It'd be a pretty shocking decision on the UK governments part to purchase an overseas produced aircraft when they have a "homegrown" option that ticks all the necessary boxes. Apache & Chinook overseas acquisition is semi understandable as UK doesn't have competing designs. If UK government want to continue having the capability to produce & maintain their own rotor craft they need to support their own manufacturers.

im crying now!

Merlin is a naval helicopter.

The Merlin has pretty much the footprint of a chinook with a lot less lift capacity. Puma fits in smaller spaces. Merlin is also a maintenance nightmare. Although some mods have helped on that front it’s still a crap military airframe.

If Leonardo's proposal is accepted, it will most likely be built in UK, will create more jobs during the Covid-19 pandemic.

Poland has great aircraft factories. They made many military aircraft

139 is the basis of the whole family.

She is the best Helicopter to ride in. But her 3 Engines, and Flight equipment make her expensive. But that hasn't stopped Japan and Norway buying more. Also, national pride made the USMC, cancel the Kestrel variant of the AW101 Merlin, for the Sikorsky S-92. Which only has 2 engines.

@@madsteve9 Merlin is too big. AW139 is around 9 tonnes with superb performance, especially in the single engine/one engine out fly away.

Merlin not Puma replacement, that was Sea King replacement.

Merlin is probably too expensive but if money was not an issue, then Yes!

@@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 Also it reduces Logistics, which as been a long term aim of the M.O.D.

That'd be one of the dumbest decisions that could possibly be made ever, firstly because the UK already has plenty of tech legally through it's partnerships with EU defence projects through it's go to company BAE Systems alongside the fact it's the largest Defence Contractor and most experience defence company in Europe, 3rd most in the world, the UK is also currently buying billions of pounds with of equipment from EU countries, if the EU did something stupid like requiring us to build them in the EU, we'd just cancel the contracts and all those jobs in Europe would go, because nobody would replace the amount of equipment we buy, we're expected to buy more Boxers than Germany, even though it's a UK-German cross company making it. They also know that in a few months a new defence project will come a long and since the UK spends more on R&D for defence projects than France and Germany combined, they know that without the UK throwing in money they'd have problems, especially when you consider how the UK was the ones who mainly funded and developed the Typhoon and how the UK and Italy did the majority of the upgrades and equipment development for it. The Germans are literally using the Brimstone as the weapon for the Typhoon... developed by the UK. It's nice and all to throw around GDP and some unrealistic dream, but at the end of the day. The UK is massive in the defence industry and the EU knows it, why would they screw over themselves by doing something which would align the UK more to the US and lose them thousands of jobs whilst removing them from selling to the Americans which they do by partnering with BAE Systems.

It's based on the Leonardo AW139. It can be stretched in length and carrying capacity, similar to one of the Airbus A320 family of jets, to whatever the operator wants. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW149 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW139 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW189 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW169 Also, many major mechanicals will go into the new, AW249 "Super Mangusta ?" Reconnaissance & Anti Armour Helicopter. A replacement for the AW129 Mangusta.

@@madsteve9 edit: I forgot the AW149 came before the AW189 but either way it's basically an entirely different helicopter from the AW139.

@@gjrip no, the AW 149 Isa based on AW139 and the AW 189 Is the civil version of AW149

@@nicolasdiottalevi the AW149 is very loosely based on the AW139 and has very little in common from a component standpoint.

@@gjrip Has I said, Leonardo have done something similar to the Airbus A320 family. Stretching or shortening, increasing engine power as needed. Egypt and Thailand, already have them in the Commando role. I think they will be bought by the Italian Army rather than the NH90 TTH. *** The USAF, has just purchased the lesser MH139A Grey Wolf. **** We see lots of Coast Guard AW189's flying Casualties to the Northern General Hospital in Sheffield. ***** The new British military alliance with Italy (Sweden & Poland), is unlikely to ever suggest buying an Airbus product to replace the Puma. And the USA, doesn't have anything in the size between the UH-60 Blackhawk and the Sikorsky S-92.

Not always. Two thirty Squadron, not two, three, zero and Treble one instead of One, one, one, or one eleven as they said in the BoB film.....

Ireland uses AW139 along with EC135.

Yes the ones they have are very good.

The Italians don’t bother with a Ballistic Missile submarine. That takes about 1/4 of the UK military budget if you include the things you need to protect the submarines and their bases. This is mostly what the new helicopters are used for.

Because you don’t have our tecnological and economical power

@Mark Hepworth if i were you, i would not lough so much.... Your ill economy has an enourmous foreign debth, It shows an apparent good GDP, but It Is not. Good luck, great smiling man! Be careful not to cry instead...!ahhhhh

Because we do better with same budget.... simple!!

Britain still makes helicopters, but we we aren't so bothered about the parent company that does it.

I don't think you're supposed to fly them in to trees lol.

Airwolf would be no good for us, it's flown by an old man with dementia and a miserable bastard with no emotions or sense of humour lol.

Yes but Airbus won't let them be built in the UK.

@@RJM1011 yup. Totally agree. I’ve no doubt Westland will get contract. Pave hawk/Blackhawk also has its name in the hat.

@@PCTechHub Blackhawk's is what the army asked for in Afgan. So we will see ?? Thank you.

@@RJM1011 will be watching with an eager eye. Puma is now going in March 2022 following withdrawl from Afganistan

No it's not, it's a bigger derivatine of the AW-139

It's nothing like a Lynx or Wildcat.

Put a picture of a BRITISH MADE LYNX at the side of this and it looks exactly like it only they've stretched it

@@jamesbeckwith3639 it really doesn't mate. There's a 149 & plenty of Wildcat in the hangar where I work. Different scales entirely. MR & TR very different

@@jt5765 still looks like a Lynx, never said that it was identical or a carbon copy

Designed when flared trousers were popular

Why do you think it would be easy to build in the UK?

Why do you think it would be built in the UK? The Chinook were all built in Philadelphia..

merlin HC4 💪

@@DefenseMilitaryReport - 👍🏻. The only military helo I've ever flown in that actually seemed designed with troops in mind, seats that didn't squeeze you into a pretzel when you had your kit on, vibration damping so you didn't feel like you'd climbed out of a tumble drier when you got off it and acoustic engineering so you weren't deaf the second to got on it! So all good reasons why the MoD will go with a much inferior militarized civilian platform 🤦🏼‍♂️

That helicopter can be fitted for SAR, Combat SAR, special operations, support to ground forces and attack within hours.. that’s more than a military grade helicopter, it can be easily adapted for every type of mission in an extremely low amount of time.. that’s probably why the UK bought it, far more modern and superior to the Merlin

@@raptor2-40delta2 - the UK hasn't bought it, the tenders are still out. You can't fit out a Helo for multiple roles in a matter of hours, this isn't Lego. Nor is this a military platform, it's a civilian one that will be developed into military applications. In every way an inferior plan to the Merlin.

@@JammyDodger45 it was literally designed to carry out multiple missions.. just because there is a civilian version doesn’t mean this one wasn’t built exactly for the military, the Merlin it’s just bigger, the AW149 is more advanced, more reliable, can perform multiple tasks and takes less time to prepare

No. Pretty much brand new.

First flight 2009. Looks a better buy than the NH90 TTH Caiman / Taipan for the deployment of Troops. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW149

It'll have to be modified to the requirements of the UK military weapons they desire to use. Akin to the Wildcat programme.

For a start, how a vehicle looks doesnt win wars, secondly, we already have apaches that are armed to the teeth with weapons. Like the person above me also said, it'll be modified anyway.

OH really, i thought how they looked won wars :/ Thanks for the information 😂