Thanks! yeah, I was excited when I saw it.

@@iEnergySupply you must try and use ceramic bearings , at high RPM they are more effective against resistance the options are , Magnetic Bearing Gas Bearing Ceramic Bearing Carbon Graphite Bearing or you can try a bearing that is inserted into another bearing , causing even less movement restriction

Absolutely!

Haha

Fibonacci?

That’s not a fibonacci spiral. It’s just a spiral.

Ah yes The fettuccini whirligig

Thanks, very soon :)

Please see our latest video. Our analytical equipment is on the way so stay tuned.

I hate it when they dont add a load cus they know it's gonna fail miserably lol 😜😜

@@davey2k12 hahaha don't make a fool of yourself before watching the load testing. Here we get over a horsepower of pure electrical power at low speed. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9F3dK6irJjVpok.html

@@davey2k12 It's like there's some reason no one is powering anything with these

Tesla verified it. The reason it was deemed unusable at the time was because there were no materials that could hold up under the extreme rpm generated. This is an absolute engineering marvel in it’s pure design.

Thanks! Will do!

My pleasure 😊

Thanks Phonzy

Thanks. Yeah funding is a big part of r&d, be patient and you'll succeed.

Thanks!

Thanks!

that is impressive add a turbo on one of the out put shafts to feed the compressed air to the venturi then collect the chilled water and use it to cool the incoming air compressing it further prior to introducing the hot water add a pto gear box on the other end of the shaft and you have an engine that will run off of a hot water heater....or solar i wonder what the HP efficiency would look like per watt of heat?

@@kevint1910 kool man

@@kevint1910 Great idea! Please see our latest video too, we could use this to cool the engine too.

@@rickybobbyflyingwild8119 Thanks!

Fantastic!!! ~Russ

Great suggestion! It will be on the to do list.

Yeah, I drew up something a while back running off of the plume that comes out of the stacks at the refineries it is all just steam, but I said a steam jet, because you get a roughly 6 to 1, or 9 to 1 compression ratio. And than you take out the need for a compressor. The only thing I could not figure out is if you should scale it back a little bit the way you get the super sonic boost, not the velocity boost. I think that is what the last part of the process is called, but you cannot increase the size of your pipe afterwards because you are going to lose pressure.

@@mitchellsmith7868 yeah, nozzles are extremely important.

@@iEnergySupply I did not even think of it like that, so you are saying that if you allow your nozzle to pull in atmospheric pressure that it could reach super sonic velocity. Instead of just a velocity boost. That is genius!!

@@mitchellsmith7868 It must be tested, but sounds promising.

Many experiments to do, thanks for the suggestion.

yeah, what I want to try next is steam and compressed air.

@@iEnergySupply something to take into account with steam especially, is that it exponentially increases its expansion pressure at higher temps. Gauging the temp up to 750°F/400°C, if your equipment can handle that, will get some interesting results.

wouldnt increasing the number of layers (by a lot) increase the torque to something more useful? maybe have a meter long pillar of disks.

@@luminousfractal420 yes! More discs means more torque. But you’ll have a limit to how wide you can go where your exhaust holes aren’t big enough to handle the volumetric flow rate needed to torque on the shaft of discs.

Yeah it's not bad, but you should see this video, it's much more impressive kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9F3dK6irJjVpok.html

Thanks blain!

Thank you! Cheers!

thanks!

thanks!

Thank you!

thanks!

Thank you!

o wow, I was curious to see traffic from there. Thanks for checking me out!

Thanks for watching!

You're welcome

This experiment was just for fun, please see our new video. The intended fluid is water only.

Yeah it's getting better and better :)

Well I'm just waiting for the numbers from our analytical equipment. We will know soon.

That would be a fun experiment! I'm not really sure how many you could put in series, but it would be fun to find out.

Would hooking it up to a vacuum not be counter productive? As I understand it the turbine works by air molecules forcing themselves against each other and the plates with the resultant air flow being a spiral to the center exhaust. If you increase the pressure you increase the effect! Decrease and you decrease the effect ..... until you reach the stage where the internal pressure is equal and you effectively get a solid air flow, at which point you have reached max efficiency! Altering the input pressure would have the effect of altering the power output available, but not the speed of rotation. Once you lose the solidity of the air flow it is a different matter. Is my understanding correct? Got to say this is an Awesome visualization of the effect .... Top video!

cheers!

how water is what we will be using to power the turbines from now on. Water below 100c and 212f. Please see our recent cold steam testing.

this isn't the intended fluid, and steam added to the compressed air would be better. I would have to do more research here to give you definitive answers. To see the intended use of the turbine, see our latest videos.

@@iEnergySupply I’m definitely interested and will be checking them out.

We have tried ammonia but ran into problems that can easily be solved with a little more time. I'm trying to avoid the ammonia, ill be demonstrating this soon. I agree with the tesla valves too, but they must be sized exactly for the flow requirements of the turbine.

what about the glasses inside double pane windows? do those insulate some thermal heat without blocking the energizing rays or could it be simpler like a water jacket just to prevent the panel surface from getting too hot...

Unfortunately that's in Utah, we will be going to Utah for testing on that system after the conference. For now I'm going to use my system up in Idaho with just water and vacuum in a closed system.

o yeah! I've seen this happen too! What we need for the test is hydrophobic side walls, to keep the water from slowing the turbine down when there is too much in there.

@@iEnergySupply I was thinking that if the air which spins turbine would come from combusting HHO it would turn into water so you would'nt need to add water or if you needed you could change the ratios on combustion to a richer/leaner mixture and even automate it with sensors so you would be getting right amount of water into turbine

@@ruuti3121 Yep, this is one of the experiments we will do shortly, we will be using the tesla valve to control the pulse/flow direction.

@@iEnergySupply Why not apply a hydrophobic coating such as Rain-X?

@@johnwyman6126 My experience with Rain X is that dirts tends to stick to it like glue over time, and then its almost impossible to hold it clean. But with steam it should be clean, so maybe a great idea.

Depends on weather you want a pump or a turbine. They both have their uses.

@@iEnergySupply Wow, I wonder if you could use the basic, fundamental equations I've put together for the Skin Effect in a solid. It actually makes math of the material condition, to describe the resonant effect you cite. Tapering would create a resonant cycle, and would accentuate the pump effect. Single gauge would stabilize and focus the scalar waves to the dynamic center.

Could perhaps several shallow spiral shaped grooves in the inner casing -encourage the working medium to 'ride the disk' longer before exiting -from the get go, to help it spin up faster? Could be in the shape of the final stable vortex, so all flow would stabilize to that pattern (faster?) more reliably given your exact 'power in'/ target velocity. So cool that it comes out cold though. You can use this technology on every 64,500 power plants in the world and then instead of using their Superheated Water Vapor from their Wet Surface Air Cooling technology to make clouds which is the only way rain is made -they can cool their process fluids directly by sending them through this device -which happens to have the quality of being able to generate lots of electricity. And then we can just have no more rain because there is no more need to dump ground water on hot process fluids pipes at power plants to cool them.

we got 600 watts on our 135 degree water test, we had ice on the condenser. that was a low speed test though and much more to come on the subject. Higher speeds = more power. We are waiting on our analytical equipment to show exactly what it's capable of and what's going on.

well, it's possible for the heat to be free, because there is a constant heat differential everywhere with the earth. the energy from the earth is free, we just need a way to convert it. We have found the way.

Thanks! I have a cad drawing of my most recent and advanced turbine on my patreon page. Patreon.com/ienergysupply

That's a good theory! We would just have to do more testing to find out for sure.

it should be the same size but with three times the disks.

I seen a video that someone posted interviewing about the dual stage. You stated that the vacuum side needs to be larger in diameter. Why is this and at what percentage is the increase? @ienergysupply (idk if I need to tag you here lol)

@@iEnergySupply apparently this is how you tag a to a reply lol

@@jacobray6655 either works, but using the same disks as your rotor is easier

I'll never stop, thanks :)

Our top speed is 150000 rpm, at 1440 mph periphery speed.

yeah in future experiments that would be a great idea.

Ill be showing all this on our patreon. Months later ill show it on youtube.

Have all the details on my patreon, eventually they will come out on KZfaq but I give the patrons the details much sooner to help fund the project.

I need to wait for the empirical data to answer the question accurately.

Soon we will be testing with cold steam/criophorous system.

so soon, yes, we will have them available. They will be available to our Patreons first. Patreon.com/ienergysupply

hahaha gosh.

Something we will do in the future, stay tuned.

Thanks!

I believe it's possible with salts in a cold steam system. For now we are going to use just water, in our vacuum boiler/condenser system. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iciGhbun162uln0.html

well, we can simulate space with temperature differential. We are running our new turbines in a vacuum system where the boiler is under pressure and the condenser is under vacuum. We will have one addition to the system and that's a vacuum pump that goes inside the vacuum to drop the pressure to degrees close to space. Tesla Suggests this, and says the performance increases 50% With our analytical system we will see.

@@iEnergySupply very nice! OK I was thinking maybe if the materials were in a weightless environment they'd perhaps be able to withstand more forces. Look forward to seeing your other videos!

absolutely, see our newest video, and please leave a comment. with carbon fiber we achieved 150000 rpm with a periphery speed of nearly 1440 miles per hour.

yeah it rapidly condenses. some of the condensate makes it to the condenser before condensing though.

@@iEnergySupply Ok, so does this mean the two stage design with the turbine + pump still requires a condenser after the pump stage if you want to continually recycle the water, via heating it with a radiator with ambiant air or a solar collector (like you talked about in your 30 minute video) and putting it back into the hot tank?

@@PhillyEaglesFanatic yes, a simple pump transfers the condensate back to the boiler, and the condenser doesn't need to be externally could once we reach our efficiency goals.

@@iEnergySupply Ok, cool. Thanks! 🙂

haha yeah, this is actually very slow compared to some of our other tests.

it's stainless steel, and I'm not sure how long it would last without lubrication, we will soon add lubs to our boiler if needed. please seee our latest videos.

You could replace stainless bearings for ceramic ones, it will last a lot longer, don’t require lubrication and no corrosion.

people keep telling me the ceramic bearings may not need oil. If they don't' need water would they work with steam, at least the water can add a little bit of lubrication right? We will test it either way.

Stay tuned, I show all my experiments.

@@iEnergySupply Ok. I will wait.

@@iEnergySupply You haven't posted any new video afterwards. And how long more it will take to come to market?

@@thomascameron683 we had a big conference to go to, our patreons have the updates. I have to show them everything before it goes on youtube but haven't' had time yet to get organize it all. I will start posting it all soon.

We got 600 watts with 135 f water. We powered the lights at our camp sight for two hours on warm water.

We will be testing that soon!

@@iEnergySupply kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6-BZ66Ss9SlpKs.html

@@thumperhunts6250 Charlie Solis has a design with the vortex tube exhaust duct for his thermoelectric Tesla turbine disc stack idea. Check it out! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldeCgtdyvJ68fJs.html

we are now running in a closed loop system, please see our latest videos.

We used an air compressor for this test, although This turbine is designed for cold steam, let me give you a link to our first example. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNyCdqWQrc7XlY0.html

have you tried the subtitle translation on youtube?

@@iEnergySupply no

@@warker6186 it's in settings, for the youtube videos, turn subtitles on and select the language.

@@iEnergySupply do u mean caption? that can be found on the video options? its auto generated n can be misleading,, but better than nothing..

interesting enough, we have gotten some static electric discharge. More on that to come.

@@iEnergySupply You said more information was coming about static discharge with the turbine. Could you please provide an update?

We will have to wait, I haven't returned to these specific experiments yet. I am nearly finished with the production turbine, and after we start testing it. Once it's done, I have some crazy research to do with the static electricity.

​@@iEnergySupplywere you able to finish the production turbine? We're you able to look into static electricity?

@@dragonsshadows We have the production turbine almost finished. Doing some Final testing before preorders. I haven't tested the static electric thing yet. But i'm plan to after I have some more time.

Yes yes :)

yes, please see our new videos.

Haven't tried that yet but we may in the future.

This is too cheap and to easy to use once the turbine is perfected. Annually, global consumption is even more impressive, reaching 36.4 billion barrels consumed in 2018, according to BP. That's $2.184 trillion worth of oil consumption in a single year. In gallons, the world's annual consumption is 1.134 trillion-roughly half the amount of water found in Lake Michigan What if one day you spoke to all the oil companies and said, we have a way to allow every home in the world to make their own power? More efficiently and cheaply without their giant complex and expensive turbines they use in the powerplants. They would see over two trillion dollars disappear from their mega rich pockets. They do everything they can to keep that kind of competition from succeeding, including paying the news channels, and politicians to back their agenda in making it either illegal or impossible for the public to get their hands on it. This is my theory.

@@iEnergySupply Hence my rant above. I am happy to see it changing at the small scale.

Tesla turbine is high efficient on high revs. Efficiency on low revs is nearly none. To generate big torque you need to build big turbine. Imagine the linear speed of the rotor and the centrifugal force in it when turbine is 3 metres in diameter. We don't have a material to build such a rotor. This invention is still from the future.

@@clasyfiks Want a light saber? Dead ass serious. I am teasing the right answer, and it is right or not. How do we scale in 3D, not sq2 binary? Dynamic dielectric AND magnetic fields. I only get the blood Azazel's mind needs to function. Elon stole all of the money and the name. You get Edutainment and NASA hoodies to die in.

@@clasyfiks There are companies using large tesla turbines today, the video you saw about the turbine requiring mac 18 or something is super in-accurate.

Please see our other videos, our newest one is the best.

@@iEnergySupply i surree will, thanks for the fast reply

well that explains why tesla was worried about resonate frequencies so much; the tesla turbine is as much of an instrument as it is an energy converter. for each working fluid temperature and density there must be an optimum resonate diameter and thickness of the disks? I'm thinking about the thermal acoustic cooling devices that nighthawkinlight is doing? or how flat panels vibrate and resonate in air like those cool sand on vibrating metal videos or those polystyrene pink foam flat panel exciter speakers everyone was making a few years back. im really starting to think this is a thermal-acoustic device too

The turbine looses speed in this case because the water condenses and adds tons of friction between the side walls and the rotor. We will be using a hydrophobic coating on the casing in the future to prevent this from happening. "im really starting to think this is a thermal-acoustic device too" This is a possibility, we will know for sure soon.

@@iEnergySupply Have you looked into pnuematic votex tubes? They're kind of a small curio that can convert compressed air into a high pressure hot air votex and a low pressure cold air vortex. The hot air comes from the air spinning around the housing of the tube hundreds of times before leaving the nozzel. I had a feeling one of those would be really good at injecting and forcing entrainment and vaporization of a liquid with an injector or venturi nozzle. It has no moving parts and can pre-establish spin in the air moving down the tube. I had an idea that one of those blowing into the center of a tesla turbine could act like a turbo and water vaporizor at the same time making steam from room temp compressed air and water at atmospheric. This would also precharge the water with heat for the turbine to sap. I also figured if they get to that reported 200c the product manufacturers say, then they could also entrain liquid or fine powder fuels and force them to combust without a pilot light, like a ram jet.

I'm really excited for this tesla turbine tech youre expanding on. I have a homestead that uses compressed air lines for long distance power transmission instead of AC lines because its a little safer for my family to work around and easier to repair incase of failure. A device like your turbine would mean that my compressed air to electricity generation would be more efficient and easier to maintain in a home machine shop and use a lot less have-to-buy motor oil than locomotion I'm using now.

im trying to figure that out as well.

@@andrewsmithmilan1780 There are PTFE seals that run dry (without oil) against pneumatic pressure. I wonder if those would work 🤔

@@TANOCA17 good call. I think a PTFE o-ring would fit my design perfectly, after doing some research. I'm designing an enclosure to 3d print, will be used for hydro-power.

@@andrewsmithmilan1780 o-ring may not be the best choice for a rotary application as they're designed mostly static or mostly axial shaft movements but only occasional shaft rotation. There are PTFE (rotary) shaft seals from SKF. Those are also extremely low torque which equals low power loss, might be an advantage for such a high rpm application compared to any rubber rotary seal. PTFE is durable up to 30 m/s shaft contact line speed and withstands extreme temperatures. Only disadvantage may be the cost and availability.

We show loads in other videos, have you seen our latest?

@@iEnergySupply These all seem to involve the water, I'm saying run this without the water, what are the results then? Once you have that baseline then we have something to compare it to when you add steam/water.

in our previous videos we show rpm, this is actually a slow run too.