Amazon's BEST-SELLING gloves are DANGEROUS

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Күн бұрын

In this video I’m going to show you how the number one best-seller in motorcycle gloves on Amazon were being sold illegally.
You’ll see what happened when I sent them to a lab, how quickly they fell apart when I dragged them down the road, and what you need to look for when buying gloves that WILL offer your hands some protection.
This isn’t the first time I’ve flagged up potentially dangerous motorcycle riding kit on Amazon, so I’ll also be asking them how they’ll start taking your safety more seriously…
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00:00 Dangerous bike kit sold on Amazon
01:29 Looking for fake safety ratings on motorcycle riding kit
03:52 Asking Cofit for proof of safety
05:21 Getting motorbike gear sold on Amazon tested
08:37 Real-world test of the Cofit gloves sold on Amazon
11:07 How to buy quality, safe motorcycle gloves
16:25 How legitimate bike kit brands are suffering
18:15 An open letter to Amazon about YOUR safety
19:05 A familiar statement from Amazon
20:18 Amazon’s claims of customer protection
24:17 My questions to Amazon
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@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for watching, and please do lend you voice in the comments. Also, join our Facebook group if you'd like to chat about this or any other video: facebook.com/groups/bikesocial SAVE on Calimoto subscription, or try it for FREE calimoto.app.link/bikesocial • 10% off yearly subscriptions: bikesocial10 • 30 day free trial: bikesocial30 Personal link: LINKS TO ARTICLES Fake airbags on Amazon: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/product/amazon-motorcycle-kit-safety-issues-illegal-uncertified Fake armour in leathers on Amazon: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/leather-jackets-trousers-and-race-suit-reviews/cheap-motorcycle-leathers-fake-danger Safest motorcycle kit: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/product/safest-motorcycle-gear-ce-ratings Bennetts High Performance Awards: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/high-performance-safest-motorcycle-clothing Dangerous kit on social media: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/product/speedy-rider-thermo-grip-investigation-motorcycle-clothing Best motorcycle jeans: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/textile-jackets-trousers-suits/what-best-motorcycle-riding-jeans-kevlar-pekev-covec Amazon's product safety video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jtqYq5B91Mq9n4E.html
@Imabiker
@Imabiker 2 күн бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial talking about safety can you reuse a back protector after it’s been involved in a crash ?.
@coalcutter
@coalcutter 16 күн бұрын
Amazon don't care at all
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 16 күн бұрын
That sadly seems to be the case based on the investigations we've done... Cheers, John
@thisisabsolutelystup
@thisisabsolutelystup 15 күн бұрын
​@bennettsbikesocial which makes videos like this all the more important. If amazon won't do anything, other sources need to warn consumers.
@user-kp4mu4ku2v
@user-kp4mu4ku2v 15 күн бұрын
Amazon is just a hosting platform like ebay with a few own brand items. So it’s not Amazon it’s the sellers on Amazon
@thisisabsolutelystup
@thisisabsolutelystup 15 күн бұрын
@@user-kp4mu4ku2v no, it's amazon for giving them a platform to sell on, and they take their % cut of the sales, they're not only complicit they are partners.
@wl660
@wl660 15 күн бұрын
@@user-kp4mu4ku2vAmazon are responsible for everything they profit from, by making it available for sale. It’s nothing like eBay, though they are trying very hard to be as bad.
@2Niels
@2Niels 16 күн бұрын
A friend bought some 'motorcycle gloves' on Amazon. Utter crap - told him not to use them. Ended up being used as gardening gloves. They lasted 2 weekends of pulling up weeds before they disintegrated. Criminal.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 16 күн бұрын
It's shocking - glad he had a mate like you to warn him. Cheers, John
@noggintube
@noggintube 15 күн бұрын
The irony being a cheap pair of 2 quid gardening rigger gloves would probably be more protective than these POS. Would never consider buying bike gear off Amazon, but it is concerning that young new riders on a budget could be buying these things thinking they'll do the job.
@philgman
@philgman 12 күн бұрын
unfortunately, i fell for the same amazon scam gloves and yup they became gardening gloves as they weren't even good enough for light mechanical work. i won't use cheap helmet, boots, or gloves!
@marcos1669
@marcos1669 15 күн бұрын
Amazon should be legally liable for selling this kind of stuff, problem is this kind of gear will most likely be bought by new riders or people that want to gift something to friend...
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Exactly! Experience riders tend to know, but new riders and - as you say - those buying gifts could easily suffer. All the best, John
@user-kp4mu4ku2v
@user-kp4mu4ku2v 15 күн бұрын
No Amazon only host products for other sellers (apart from a few essentials own brand) Amazon choice is based on top sales x reviews.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
The company is still bringing these to market by fulfilling them, which could be how we see consequences this time
@martinowl
@martinowl 15 күн бұрын
Agree that Amazon should not advertise, market or sell items that do not legally conform to applicable standards in any country.
@Eisenhammer78
@Eisenhammer78 12 күн бұрын
Amazon only provides the paltform for companies to sell their stuff. So suing them would be hard. Putting their Amazon Choice label on it tho might be another thing
@andrewhenderson6256
@andrewhenderson6256 13 күн бұрын
To be honest I buy from my local motorbike shops just to keep them open (when they’re gone, they’re gone😢) but both of them offer excellent customer service and advice when I’ve gone in looking for kit - Amazon reviews can’t compete.
@MattSwain1
@MattSwain1 16 күн бұрын
I’d ask people to consider what living the rest of their lives with shattered hands would be like before buying cheap gloves. I had an accident years ago and my good gloves were probably the reason that I can still use a keyboard today… the armour on the gloves was smashed but my hands were basically ok aside from one dislocated finger
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 16 күн бұрын
Ooof - glad you were (pretty much) okay! Cheers, John
@niclasroberts
@niclasroberts 16 күн бұрын
I worked from time to time with an older fella about ten years ago. Always had a sort of tubi wrist support type thing on one arm. It looked very atrophied and he'd usually be holding one arm with the other, sometimes swinging the bad arm up like a pendulum. I thought it was thalidomide or some sort of birth problem at first but one day he caught me.leaving work in bike gear for the first time. He was very interested in whether I was wearing proper gear. Turns out it was a motorcycle accident that did his arm in. I remember his "lovely day for it" clearly. He definitely missed riding.
@SpringfieldFatts
@SpringfieldFatts 16 күн бұрын
As an American it's an even easier, darker choice: $300 on good gloves or $300k on a hospital bill?
@MattSwain1
@MattSwain1 15 күн бұрын
@@SpringfieldFatts Amazon rely on the fact that no one can afford to sue them for such medical bills - if that was to happen perhaps they might start to care about the knock-off garbage they sell
@MattSwain1
@MattSwain1 15 күн бұрын
@@niclasroberts An accident sure focuses the mind on such things. The accident I mentioned was at no more than 20mph but I went up and then down hard onto the road with my right hand taking a good old hit. The knuckle armour was destroyed which could have been my hand which would have been life altering. It stands out like a beacon to me when I now see anyone riding without gloves and these Amazon gloves might as well be riding without gloves for the good they’ll do. If my story convinces 1 person to buy proper gloves then it was worth telling. I’d also add that good gloves last so are cheaper in the long run… I’m still riding into the Alpinestars gloves I got after that accident some 10 years later
@k1200ltse
@k1200ltse 16 күн бұрын
This is why I buy from a bike shop - local main dealer, J&S, etc. Buying from Amazon for riding kit is a big no no for me.
@ukfalcon3605
@ukfalcon3605 16 күн бұрын
Great work again john, you've totally changed my buying habits over the years. Noticed some shockers at motorcycle live last year, how they get away with it is beyond me.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 16 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! It's going to need action from more than a handful of us for it to change, but at least more and more buyers know the difference now. All the best, John
@MarkFoster-so3tj
@MarkFoster-so3tj 15 күн бұрын
Amazon should come under the same laws as other motorcycle clothing retailers when it comes to safety certificate regulations
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Cheers, John
@stuartkenny38997
@stuartkenny38997 15 күн бұрын
It's about time Amazon took some responsiblity for what is being sold via 'their' marketplace. It's rife with conterfiet goods, some of which are clearly dangerous.
@simDIY1981
@simDIY1981 16 күн бұрын
100 euro for Alpinestars gloves. Can’t imagine buying cheap shit.
@MattSwain1
@MattSwain1 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. I paid about 80GBP for some proper gloves around 10 years ago and they’re still good today
@MrKillervincent
@MrKillervincent 14 күн бұрын
Richa gloves are what? 40-60 🤷‍♂️
@steve00alt70
@steve00alt70 10 күн бұрын
Rst one are about that
@znoozaros
@znoozaros 6 күн бұрын
Rukka Airium 2.0 were also 100€ :)
@FrozenDung
@FrozenDung 6 күн бұрын
I got £20 DXR gloves for my GF, they are great summer gloves. Alpinestars is overpriced. RST is cheaper and still passes the same CE tests
@tom_conaty
@tom_conaty 15 күн бұрын
Will be Confit and renamed something else tomorrow. Good work John calling this out, if any recognized bike store sold counterfeit good they would be held accountable. Marketplaces should ensure those selling goods with standards labelled are held to proof of same, the shrug off of a tech giant is not good enough
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Let's hope they start getting the message. Cheers, John
@witchdoctor6502
@witchdoctor6502 15 күн бұрын
I'm glad there are people like you, calling companies out and bringing their shitty practice to light... have you also contacted UK/EU agencies to have a look at this? Amazon will just try to shift responsibility elsewhere until authority starts asking questions and demanding answers/proofs.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Yep - Trading Standards and OPSS have the full lab reports and all details. Cheers, John
@martinowl
@martinowl 15 күн бұрын
Good
@The-Splat
@The-Splat 15 күн бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocialGreat work 👍
@fuglbird
@fuglbird 15 күн бұрын
Good work. Thank you! This is important work. Please carry on. One of my local dealers warned me about fake C E ratings. Unfortunately I found some equipment there that was not even C E labeled at all. At some other dealers I found my German helmet, Polish leather jacket, Italian MC Jeans, one pair of gloves made in the Netherlands and one pair made in France. Honestly my modern kit doesn't compare well to my old kit from 1978, but I gave it away. I would never buy motorcycle gear on Amazon. I only use Amazon when I buy books.
@richardgregg2366
@richardgregg2366 15 күн бұрын
As always, proper investigative journalism from the bike social team. It’s sad in this day and age that you have to repeatedly point this out to who is I’m sure, the biggest retailer in the world. The only advice I ever give friends is, buy the best that you can afford. Clearly, as long as it meets minimum safety requirements.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Cheers! John
@tokaitelejohn5656
@tokaitelejohn5656 15 күн бұрын
Great that you’re highlighting this very important issue. Amazon should be at least jointly liable for selling this unsafe gear which is utterly unfit for purpose. Disgraceful.
@ianhamilton1872
@ianhamilton1872 15 күн бұрын
I won't even buy brand named bike gear from Amazon in case they aren't genuine.Great video as always..
@The-Splat
@The-Splat 15 күн бұрын
Me too. There are too many fake sold by Amazon 😡
@andyworkman3856
@andyworkman3856 15 күн бұрын
Great content as always John. Amazon seems to sell a lot of utter rubbish products these days from unsafe motorcycle PPE to death trap electrical items with fake CE certification. Interestingly the algorithms seem to push the junk to the top of searches and it can be difficult to even find genuine items if you are able to find them at all. I wonder if this will eventually be the downfall of Amazon as customers will loose confidence. I have!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Cheers, and yes - it doesn't feel like a premium seller anymore. John
@paulbarton7886
@paulbarton7886 15 күн бұрын
there's a reason seasoned bikers wear kit from "known" brands, the problem like you said is new riders who don't know any better and if they crash it may put them off for life...
@davidz8
@davidz8 15 күн бұрын
Darwins theory of evolution is alive and thriving on Amazon, £20 for new motorcycle gloves via Amazon is a recipe for disaster. It's obvious Amazon don't care and know they can just chuck money at MPs to let them do what they like. I met you at the ABR Festival, the guy who jumped out of the Roadskin changing rooms after recognising your voice. It was great to meet you, you are as nice in person as you come across on screen. The Roadskin jeans are so comfortable.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Ah - was great to meet you! Glad you're getting on well with the Roadskins! Cheers, John
@DNAtraveling
@DNAtraveling 15 күн бұрын
This is why i subbed to thia channel, well researched, well presented videos that actually try and have honest conversations with the industry at large
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@ironmanmichael
@ironmanmichael 15 күн бұрын
Hi, I used to be a member of BSI Committee for software engineering and, if it helps, I’d be prepared to vouch for your application to the motorcycle safety committee.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! I'm sharing this video with the BSI so hopefully we'll get somewhere. Cheers, John
@ShurikGi
@ShurikGi 15 күн бұрын
another problem is that cause of so much crap that sold on Amazon there is barely a choice of good products from trusted resellers ... all those "stores" are some couch business peoples looking for easy income ...
@Trumpets4me
@Trumpets4me 15 күн бұрын
John, you are bloody amazing. This is one reason why I have never, and will never buy anything from Amazon / eBay, you just can't trust them. I have for many years now always bought everything I need from the Sportsbikeshop. As far I'm concerned they are 100% reliable, in the products that they sell. So for me alone, it's a no brained really. The work that you personally do on our behalf is truly commendable. I'm glad I've got my insurance through Bennetts too, plus they were £100 cheaper than loads more insurance company's as well. 👍👍🏍🏍
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks SO much, and really chuffed to hear that we were able to get you a great price! All the best, John
@Velobetty
@Velobetty 4 күн бұрын
Definitely the moral of the story is support your local bike shop and buy the best kit you can afford.
@adventurersgamble
@adventurersgamble 15 күн бұрын
I work at an airsoft field as the head ref, we have the same issues with airsoft gear sold off on amazon. Maybe 3 masks a week, first time customers bring them in and try to wear them on the field, but since they aren't ANSI Z87+ rated, they aren't actually impact rated (even though they are advertised, on Amazon, as "Airsoft Masks"). I catch them before they get on the field, at first we were testing them by shooting them a few times, but we destroyed so many of them I could just show customers pictures of an identical mask to theirs that had the lens or mouth guard shot out and ask them to return their masks to Amazon and buy something quality that will actually keep their eyes and teeth from being shot out.
@stoatsngroatsuk5012
@stoatsngroatsuk5012 15 күн бұрын
Well done John, good effort here, sharing details on quality and certification etc. As new rider 2 years ago, I did much research including loads of your content as well as others, and bought all my initial gear from a local store, other stuff subsequently from SBS and other less local bike shops, always looking for quality v cost. I’m pretty sure as a newer rider, I would struggle to buy this kind of thing from Amazon or elsewhere, without first trying stuff on. Keep up your great work, it is appreciated!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@thepurplecat5975
@thepurplecat5975 10 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for a space on two BSI committees for about 7 years. I am an actual bona fide expert with PhD and Technical Director of a UKAS accredited laboratory. They don't want people who want to make positive change, they want people from big multinationals or Trade/Industry Associations so they can all back-slap each other instead of actually making changes.
@flexywing
@flexywing 15 күн бұрын
It's about time companies like Amazon were taken to task, there needs to be a global standard as well as EU standards
@beglin123
@beglin123 14 күн бұрын
Soon to be back on bikes and seriously thinking of completley avoiding Amazon for any bike gear now !Thank you for all your efforts mate
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@InsanitiesBrother
@InsanitiesBrother 16 күн бұрын
Keis glove must recommend. I use mine on my electric unicycle off-road a lot. I have had so many crashes and what not. Only damage is the seams of some of the finger tips. Some super glue and bam, basically damage free.
@CraigThompson-i8m
@CraigThompson-i8m 15 күн бұрын
Bravo!! Great video. Thank you for providing such informative detail on your tested products, suggesting solutions and passing on the findings to trading standards. We (bikers) appreciate your work and level of detail.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@mattdeanmusic
@mattdeanmusic 6 күн бұрын
Anyone paying that price and expecting a good product needs to seriously re-evaluate how they look at the world. Sure, Amazon has some responsibility, but when the price difference between Amazon crap and proven known quality products is that large, that should red flag anyone. Great work on the video!
@camilosalcedo7341
@camilosalcedo7341 10 күн бұрын
Amazon needs to be sued hardly. A local store selling illegal products would get serious consecuences... While all Amazon gets out of this crime (I can't find a different word to describe what they're doing) is only an open letter and some public shaming. Dont get me wrong, I highly appreciate the effort spent on producing this valuable, high quality video...I've never bought a single productfrom them, let alone PPE, and this convince me that I'm doing fine... but it's frustrating for me as a consumer to see that honest, small businesses have to compete in highly unbalanced conditions against a marketing giant who can violate market regulations without any serious repercussions.
@a13bkd62
@a13bkd62 13 күн бұрын
Brilliant effort and great video. Honestly, you're the first place I check when I need to buy any kit. Cheers
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 12 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@Imabiker
@Imabiker 3 күн бұрын
I don’t use amazon for anything anymore.i left a 2 star review for a memory stick for an iPhone a while back.i then received several emails asking me to remove the review and the would give me a gift voucher it started at £10 eventually ended up at £25..i just ignored them…
@kenleetho320
@kenleetho320 15 күн бұрын
Great work providing this information for us to share and knocking on doors for change. I'm glad there are people like yourself willing to put the work in for the benefit of us all 👏🏻. Sidenote loving calimoto, I'm doing some research to get a tablet I see on the BMW, There's a tablet. what brand of tablet and locking mount are you using? Many thanks John
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! The tablet is the Carpe Iter V4B, with its own clamp. You can get it from Carpe Iter in Prague, or A Bike Thing sells them now too
@tortuga34
@tortuga34 15 күн бұрын
Great info!! The dirt cheap price should scream worthless, but some people simply dont know otherwise.
@Northfox46
@Northfox46 10 күн бұрын
Brilliant video! As motorcyclists we should be grateful to all concerned that these types of videos/tests are carried out, clearly we can’t always trust ‘trusted sellers’!
@agnelt
@agnelt 15 күн бұрын
You're doing some great work. I have worked for standards and testing laboratories as a certification engineer and I know making changes is a painstaking, expensive, long and tedious process. As a standards agency you have a big say about changes obviously, but you cannot make changes without industry consensus. Most of the time the key individuals inside are very knowledgable, this should get their attention or it is something that is already known (regarding the glove palm), but making the change will need to be voted on with the key players.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Absolutely, and we saw the problems with BS13595, but hopefully we'll see more steps taken for the good of the buyers. Cheers, John
@The-Splat
@The-Splat 15 күн бұрын
Why can’t a standards agency make changes without industry consensus?
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
@@The-Splat I think it's more to do with the potential for a lack of consensus if the committee is made up of industry players.
@agnelt
@agnelt 14 күн бұрын
The main reason is that a standards agency is not making any products and is not keeping up with the latest materials and technologies to make these products. As new technologies are found, the standards slowly change and evolve. LEDs really threw all the lighting product standards into a tailspin. Another reason is that some products are inherently unsafe, like a toaster.. it has exposed heating elements and sharp edges that can easily hurt humans in many ways. If we make it completely safe as a standards agency would want, it would be a really expensive and inconvenient piece of equipment that just toasts bread, that no one would buy.
@joesmith9270
@joesmith9270 6 күн бұрын
I wanted to say thank you. You provide an invaluable service to the m/c community. Your knowledge, integrity, and passion for rider safety are evident. Disinformation is everywhere, while you (and Bennets) continue to advocate for motorcycle safety. Bravo!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 6 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
@MartinKernahan
@MartinKernahan 15 күн бұрын
Well done John and keep doing your stuff. It is appreciated.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! All the best, John
@AutoBeta2T
@AutoBeta2T 13 күн бұрын
Good vid, subbed, and shared. Thank you for raising this issue and doing something about it.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing it! Hopefully it'll help reduce the chance of people getting hurt. Cheers, John
@adamgilbey7598
@adamgilbey7598 11 күн бұрын
Fantastic work john, please keep it up it's great to see
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 11 күн бұрын
Thanks! All the best, John
@geebergoober929
@geebergoober929 13 күн бұрын
Very thorough as always - shocking the way this continues to be ignored and the generic responses they give you
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 13 күн бұрын
Cheers! Still pushing for some more acknowledgement from them. All the best, John
@firestorm755
@firestorm755 15 күн бұрын
Great vid but you did raise a good point. Sometimes you can shop for a great product from a great dealer but it just doesn't fit. I experienced this recently. I bought a fantastic Richa jacket that fits really well but I couldn't find gloves that fitted just right for me. I do currently have a pair of Held ventilated leather gloves so will stick with them till it gets cold then I'll have to go shopping again
@Chris-on3el
@Chris-on3el 15 күн бұрын
Hi John, thank you for highlighting this issue and after watching your video I checked a pair of gloves I bought for last summer and guess what they are the gloves you mentioned.... Good job I've only used them once or twice ☹️ think Amazon should recall them and offer customers full refunds!! Disgraceful 😡
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
It might be worth asking for a refund, as they've been misrepresented. Cheers, John
@RussRyan7713
@RussRyan7713 15 күн бұрын
When it comes to safety kit i never buy from amazon. All my gear has been either manufacturer direct (Hood / JTS jeans) or sportsbike shop and well known brands (RST Daytona Oxford Helite). In the safety game you really do get what you pay for. Dont play with your safety and wellbeing 👍. Great video and calling them out.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks! All the best, John
@903lew
@903lew 15 күн бұрын
Still the best consumer journalism in the moto sphere right here and for free. As I’m not in the UK I can’t buy your insurance and I don’t really have a need for the (very good) deals you provide with the membership. I will however gladly buy you a pint should we ever meet. Thank you John, these things matter.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@davec3459
@davec3459 15 күн бұрын
Well done for highlighting this. Its not just unsafe, uncertified motorcycle gear amazon sell unfortunately - its the majority of their range
@alainmichaud6747
@alainmichaud6747 15 күн бұрын
Amazon should comply to all requirement with their products for motorcycle and proper certification .
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Totally agree. Cheers, John
@dalemeadows225
@dalemeadows225 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for all your work as ever mate. Very worrying from Amazon, how on earth were these gloves ever allowed to feature in their marketplace?
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Sadly, these appear to just be a drop in the ocean. Cheers, John
@hyperthunk
@hyperthunk 15 күн бұрын
I have the LS2 KP2 gloves from 18 mins in. Brilliant glove and only cost me around £80 odd! Yes buddy, we 100% need you representing us please!!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks! All the best, John
@Tainted-Soul
@Tainted-Soul 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for trying to keep us all safe I hope you manage to stop Amazon selling crap
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Sadly I think we're a long way off, but thanks! All the comments here will hopefully be helping raise some awareness. Cheers, John
@sharg0
@sharg0 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for all this work! Our governments must start requiring Amazon and other mail order companies to follow the same laws as other resellers and not hide behind some "Oh we are not the ones selling the product, we are only...." excuses.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
It's destroying legitimate businesses! Cheers, John
@dooshdashcams2629
@dooshdashcams2629 15 күн бұрын
They do, but don't enforce. Not unique to UK, EU or anywhere else.
@robertyork4041
@robertyork4041 10 күн бұрын
Keep up the great work trying to keep us safe.
@barryrose4850
@barryrose4850 15 күн бұрын
Amazon literally have blood on their hands
@argieessex
@argieessex 15 күн бұрын
Great work John. Amazing that the authorities cannot crack down on this practice.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Let's hope we see change at some point...
@State6
@State6 15 күн бұрын
You are slowly becoming one of the people on my list of ‘if you could have a meal with anyone who would it be?’ I honestly don’t think you can beat going to a proper motorcycle store and speaking with the staff there and making an informed decision. Yes it cost more but when I fell and had my leg pinned under the bike until it came to a stop I can 100% say it was worth every penny. I got up and walked off with some bruising only.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 14 күн бұрын
Glad you're okay, and thanks! Though I need to warn you that I don't share my food!
@Andy8790c
@Andy8790c 7 күн бұрын
Good work Benetts, thank you! The more motorcyclists that watch this, the better.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 7 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@reinmansmith
@reinmansmith 15 күн бұрын
Top marks to you for calling out this poor equipment. Experienced motorcyclists will probably not be fooled but there will be a lot of inexperienced riders who will be and will be putting themselves at risk…
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Absolutely - hopefully it helps. Cheers, John
@paulvarnsverry11
@paulvarnsverry11 15 күн бұрын
The more shares the link to this video gets, the more riders will get the message. A proposal to set up a web site providing information on the standards, combined with literature sent out by DVLA with all provisional licences, licence renewals and motorcycle V5s, etc., has not progressed since it was last discussed some 18 months ago.
@liamato1
@liamato1 15 күн бұрын
Amazon need to pay attention, this is people’s health and lives they are risking. Mark Taylor.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Totally agree. While Amazon is welcome to comment on here, I doubt they will. I'm sure there will be views of this though. All the best, John
@GaryAppledale
@GaryAppledale 15 күн бұрын
The point is though that Amazon do NOT need to listen because they are getting away with it. No-one is even censuring them let alone prosecuting them, let alone issuing them with the kind of enormous penalties that would ensure they address the problem.
@Gobert23
@Gobert23 6 күн бұрын
I’m so glad to see someone, with a voice, flagging this up. I was sent a similar set of gloves, through Amazon’s Vine programme. I always provided honest and objective feedback, which clearly didn’t please the seller, as I was then dropped from the programme (with no real explanation, after many years).
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 6 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but glad there are honest people out there. All the best, John
@ariesmarsexpress
@ariesmarsexpress Күн бұрын
The UK could eliminate the illegal kit themselves. All they need to do is to publish an up to date database of all gear with a CE rating and what that rating is. It doesn't even make sense that they put a system together that rates things and they don't have a list to go verify a product against. At this point, the world is relying on the UK because no one else seems to be doing it, and any that look like they are, are just copying the UK system. Also, the fact that those gloves passed any aspect of the testing regime is a massive problem for the testing regime. I would say a much bigger problem than for whoever makes those garden gloves.
@rickgrice5807
@rickgrice5807 10 күн бұрын
After watching the valuable videos made by Bike Social, I will now not buy online, and a great way to start supporting our local shops, where you can see what your buying, with confidence. Amazon has damaged its reputation hugely in my eyes. it has ignored Bennetts for too long, over a legal and moral obligation. To me, they are no better than the people selling unsafe gear.
@marcusgale
@marcusgale 15 күн бұрын
So many retailers where their entire offering is non compliant unfortunately! Bikers Paradise / Bikeweardirect / bikers gear Australia / warrior gears / Lane hunters to name a few...
@rlw85
@rlw85 15 күн бұрын
It’s really shameful that people can get away with this. It’s the kind of crap my dad would buy thinking he’s got a good deal from Amazon or eBay.
@user-rc8oy1nm1d
@user-rc8oy1nm1d 13 күн бұрын
It defies belief that anyone would buy motorcycle safety gear from Amazon in the first place let alone thinking any safety markings or ratings are actually genuine.
@ronanrogers4127
@ronanrogers4127 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing this on our behalf, it’s so important to have these inferior products removed from the market. Amazon needs to be reined in and held accountable…you shouldn’t be able to profit from selling goods that misrepresent compliance to safety certifications.
@rogerthedodger5788
@rogerthedodger5788 4 сағат бұрын
It's also peculiar that we will spend many thousands of pounds on a bike, yet often baulk at spending £300 on gloves or more for helmets, clothing etc.
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin 13 күн бұрын
Not CE rated, Amazon don’t care, and don’t pay any tax in the UK. These pirates need to be held to account.
@DatBoiOrly
@DatBoiOrly 12 күн бұрын
I've personally always bought my biking gear from an in-store place not because of safety standards rather because i'm an odd size my arms & body are really long with semi broad shoulders also you can get insane deals for brand name stuff like I picked up a set of black brand gloves for 10 quid because the tag pierced a bit of the cuff too bad i won't be able to ride this season because my insurance is taking the piss with paying out.
@orochicc002
@orochicc002 15 күн бұрын
Amazon doesn't care. It is flooded with poor quality products with high profit margin for sellers. As a consumer, you must do your own due diligence. Some red flags to look out for: photo-shopped product picture, price is too good to be good, random sounding brand name or seller name, mismatched reviews (for example you're looking at gloves but some reviews is for a phone charger), overly generic or well written good reviews (signs of paid reviews).
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 14 күн бұрын
All excellent tips. Cheers, John
@brokemotorsport5339
@brokemotorsport5339 15 күн бұрын
John your stuff just keeps getting better.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@optimistickraken3631
@optimistickraken3631 15 күн бұрын
This video is further proof of why I just don't trust Amazon. There is so much fake stuff in every department not just bike gear and I don't understand why people buy any of if it. Great work on the video!
@ttv2951
@ttv2951 15 күн бұрын
Well done for taking the fight to the big guys flouting the rules.
@ticthedog6095
@ticthedog6095 15 күн бұрын
Many thanks for another great piece of journalism.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@honeyyeti5292
@honeyyeti5292 15 күн бұрын
Love these videos. Well done and keep reporting!!!!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@MichaelWebMason
@MichaelWebMason 8 күн бұрын
I had these exact same gloves and decided I would change them BEFORE I needed them. I settled for the Alpinestars Men's SMX-1 Air v2.
@USAltefore
@USAltefore 13 күн бұрын
Fitment alone is sufficient cause to be wary bike kit purchased from Amazon, but that's true for any online retailer. I plan to visit a shop in order to try on gear, as well as to check safety certifications.
@JayyBird93
@JayyBird93 14 күн бұрын
Great video as usual 👍
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 15 күн бұрын
As an 11 year old I fell off my bicycle at about 30 mph going down a steep hill - my hands, face and upper body were torn shreds, I was a mass of scabs, I had to have gravel pulled out of my hands, it was bloody awful. The first thing you do when falling off a bicycle or motorcycle is put your hands out !!! Great work John 👍🏻
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Ooof! Sorry to hear that! Cheers, John
@luddite6239
@luddite6239 15 күн бұрын
A great piece of investigative work on behalf of us punters. Perhaps just as concerning as Cofit's flagrant disregard for the safety regulations and Amazon's apparent "blind eye" policy, is the flaw in CE testing methods for the palm area.
@robbikebob
@robbikebob 14 күн бұрын
The sad truth is that a lot of motorcyclists (or normal people who happen to ride motorcycles) don't really care about their kit. You only have to look at the numbers that wear no kit in summer. The amount of times I see riders wearing full leathers but with no gloves on! If I saw a pair of bike gloves on amazon for less than £20 then I'd know they were cr*p. The problem here is both the general attitude to safety and the fact that the safety labeling is fake/illegal...
@sarge2665
@sarge2665 14 күн бұрын
Another great video with vitally important consumer advice, well done and thank you 👍🏻 I'm sorry but buying any safety equipment off Amazon is crazy in my opinion. In my experience (granted fairly limited) of buying off Amazon there are an absolutely amazing amount of "fraudulent" items for sale and again in my experience Amazon really don't care! If you want decent kit go to a reputable dealer, there are plenty online that deliver quickly and are competitive in their prices for GENUINE safety kit. But the age old thing of wanting a "proper" bargain (Aka greed) gets the better of some people and benefits those claiming to be sellers of safety kit!
@SpringfieldFatts
@SpringfieldFatts 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the diligence. My biggest problem with your sponsor Calimoto is the navigation voice directions are always for some reason a quarter of the volume of whatever media I'm listening to. I can't ever hear what it's telling me, and I never saw any sort of option to turn that up. Fatal flaw in my eyes.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
That's weird. I'll have a dig into the settings, and ask them next time I get a chance. Cheers, John
@paulvarnsverry11
@paulvarnsverry11 15 күн бұрын
@@SpringfieldFatts : Have you tried increasing the volume settings on your phone? A warning message may come up, stating that you are attempting to set levels above the recommended safe volume, but those settings may not have motorcycling use in mind.
@SpringfieldFatts
@SpringfieldFatts 15 күн бұрын
@@paulvarnsverry11 Yes, other media / music is not a problem. Similarly when Google Maps chimes in and lowers music for directions I don't have a problem hearing those. Only Calimoto.
@Guardian2003
@Guardian2003 6 күн бұрын
It's not just Amazon. I've lost count of the number of adverts for "motorcycle" gear, particularly gloves and footwear on Facebook.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 6 күн бұрын
Facebook is a whole other problem. The one thing you can at least say about Amazon is that it replies to most issues, which is more than Facebook has.
@aanubis5874
@aanubis5874 9 күн бұрын
Excellent video as usual. I do buy some of my riding gear from Amazon but it is always a reputable brands and never from a name I do not know. The worrying thing about all of this is the majority of purchasers likely trust Amazon to do their due diligence for them and believe the gear they are buying is fit for purpose. Never assume with riding gear, always research. 👍
@veefour57
@veefour57 15 күн бұрын
I'll only buy brand name, proven products now, Furygan, Oxford, Weise, LS2 etc. Years ago I'd love a bargain from the BMF Shows, Ally Pally and the similar events but with age comes wisdom! Those £5 gloves from the clearance bin, the £10 jacket and the £20 helmet would probably have fallen apart if the worst had ever happened! Keep up the good work buddy!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! And yeah, decent kit can be had without spending a fortune. Cheers, John
@andymeakin4263
@andymeakin4263 12 күн бұрын
Great work again John. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 12 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@brucegunn8024
@brucegunn8024 15 күн бұрын
OMG That is shocking. Really really worrying. Amazon should know better, support you, and remove these gloves from their site. Who checks that gear really does comply ? If there is no one checking then the cert levels mean nothing. Many thanks for this information.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
It appears nobody! Cheers, John
@treeguyable
@treeguyable Күн бұрын
I have been climbing trees for 34 years. Gloves last no time in the tree business. I rarely wear them.
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 15 күн бұрын
Great to see this being done. At the very least the website selling the gloves should be held responsible to verify testing before placing their own seal of preference on it or if it receives over 500 sales or something.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Exactly! And the point of certification is that it's easy to confirm the protection. Every legitimate store in the UK has to do it, so why not Amazon?
@NotAnIlluminatiSpy
@NotAnIlluminatiSpy 12 күн бұрын
Ha...I bought those gloves as weight lifting gloves and I wore out the palm in 3 months.
@robsayer8028
@robsayer8028 15 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it seems that Amazon will not take matters like this seriously until they are taken to task - either sued by a company or individual, or properly investigated by trading standards. Surely they must be held responsible for the items on their website (or is there some loophole as they are only "displaying" someone else's wares. It is only thanks to people like John Milbank that the general public get to hear about shoddy, fake and dangerous motorcycle PPE. Whatever you do John - for the love of God, don't stop.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thank you SO much! In the past it's been kit sold by others on the Amazon platform, but these (and lots of others on the website) are fulfilled by Amazon in the UK, which changes things. I really hope we get somewhere... cheers, John
@OvervoltedMinds
@OvervoltedMinds 15 күн бұрын
Passing over responsibility to buyers is simply wrong and also illegal when allowing 3Ps to claim something that isn't. Like you go to a restaurant, you order food - have food poisoning and expected to simply say "food wasn't good" with zero consequences. If you can't control it, then stay out of the game and let those who can manage it OR don't allow any 3P to sell these products unless they are indeed shops that sell certified products anyway
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
I agree - if Amazon doesn't want to meet its legal obligations when selling motorcycle riding kit, they shouldn't sell it.
@treeguyable
@treeguyable Күн бұрын
Still have my gauntlet style, all leather, Yamaha gloves from the 70s. Used them on my 71 , R5B 2 stroke, still have that too.
@750vfrman
@750vfrman 15 күн бұрын
Well said John. I am forwarding this to a few motorcycling friends. Not that hey would buy such garbage. But you never know. Am checking all my gloves & will look at Goldtop. Have you considered running for PM?
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks very much - anybody spreading the word will really help. Ha - I'd be a terrible PM! Cheers, John
@PThree-ru7gl
@PThree-ru7gl 13 күн бұрын
Brilliant, I doff my cap to you sir. I will be writing to my MP and encourage everyone else to do the same
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 12 күн бұрын
Thank you SO much! Cheers, John
@branthurley2285
@branthurley2285 15 күн бұрын
Thanks, John. I've concluded it's best to buy over the counter from local specialists
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 15 күн бұрын
Totally agree! Cheers, John
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