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It seems like Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings was made in exactly the right time: if it was made earlier it wouldn't be as good due to limitations in special effects, and if it was made later it would have been mutilated by wokeness.

As Tolkien said "evil cannot create, only corrupt"

Woke comment deleting. Justice for Mario.

As a black guy , I love TLOR but I don’t need hand out or forced representation. I’m proud of my culture, heritage and I will stand tall against anybody. We all bleed red , there are no gods walking among us as far as I know. This woke culture in Hollywood has been going for too long and needs to stop!

Frodo crossed state lines and proceeded to murder Sauron

Tolkien was asked many times in interviews whether the forces of evil in his books were allegorical for the Germans in WWI, but he always said no. He believed that not linking his story to any one time period or event would keep his message evergreen and pure. He was right.

As a guy from Nigeria, never in my life have I (or anyone I know) felt like we couldn’t relate to the characters in LOTR because they weren’t our skin color. These books and movies transcend time and multiple generations because of the strong characters, story, and themes. It’s fantasy, specifically a fantasy history of England (or Europe in general). People that look like me weren’t up there for the most part. But since it’s fantasy and it’s about the character’s actions and motivations and beliefs, it’s easy for anyone of any background to find those heroes they relate to in the story. This was an international bestseller long before Peter Jackson made his movies. It was taught in schools and even used for people’s theses in graduate school. The only “modernization” that was needed was better cgi and special effects to bring the fantastical elements to life. And we’ve got that. So I’m afraid I don’t share the SJW enthusiasm. I see a “black hobbit” and I’m instantly disinterested because it seems people are more interested in checking “diversity” boxes and trying to be “edgy” and “modern” more than make an accurate adaptation. No one needs to “fix” Tolkien. There’s nothing to fix. Hobbits, the weakest and lowliest race in middle earth are recognized for their bravery at the end of LOTR and even a king bows to them. Gimli yells “never trust an elf!” in the first movie and considers Legolas a dear friend by the third one. Even Elrond who bitterly states “men are weak” when talking to Gandalf has his faith in men renewed by observing Aragorn and then later reforges his sword for him. What I’m saying is that just because all the characters are considered “white” by the viewing audience doesn’t mean they can’t deal with issues like overcoming prejudice or learning to be inclusive and see the value in other people who may be very different from you. The beauty of fantasy is we can deal with these things without getting bogged down in all the politics and nonsense of our own world, at least that’s how it used to be. The direction taken by Amazon shows more than anything either a lack of faith in the strength of the source material or more specifically, a lack of respect for the source material. It seems these folks just want to use middle earth as a backdrop, a canvas on which to write their own “superior” version of Tolkien’s work. I’m reminded of that cringe-worthy scene from the trailer of CW’s “Batwoman.” She looks at Batman’s suit, which has been described as “perfect” and states “it’ll be perfect when it fits a woman.” She could’ve said “when it fits me” which would’ve been a confident thing to say, hyping up the impression that she has skills to bring to the table and is qualified to wear the mantle. But she says “fits a woman” because it’s about pushing the writer’s gender politics message instead. If they had simply stated that, as the world is diverse we aren’t going to restrict casting to only Caucasian and/or European individuals, but will simply cast whoever works best for the role. That I could’ve rolled with. It would show they were going for best overall qualities in casting selection and are banking on the strength of story and performances ti keep this going. Again, it would’ve displayed confidence in their product, that it can stand on its own merits and add to the rich legacy of Tolkiens works. Instead they highlight their multicultural casting as a main focus. This with their “strong female characters” are supposed to be the things that entice us to watch. This is what they put center stage. That should tell us all we need to know.

You call it vandalization, I call it a bastardization of a masterful, historical (not saying it's historically based, but that it was written so long ago) work of art that should not be touched by woke hands. This pisses me off to the nth degree. Why can't they leave well enough alone?

The fact that they want to put sex scenes in LotR says enough to me.

Boromir: "They have a cave troll!" Me: "No, it's worse...thats an intersectional feminist. "

Amazon studios: “if you don’t like the show, you’re a bigot. The entire LOTR fanbase: “so you have chosen death”

Interesting that Tolkien was ultimately vindicated in his view of history bending toward decay, through the eventual decay of his own creation.

So Lord Of The Rings for those who do not like Lord Of The Rings.

"As a woman", I hate that it really seems that to these people, a strong female character must be a skilled warrior, in the thick of the fight, shirking off the patriarchy. What made Frodo and Sam good, relatable, strong male characters and heroes was not their fighting ability. When will they get it through their thick-ass skulls that women can be strong without doing "male" things at every waking moment? Did anyone sane ever look at Galadriel or Luthien and go "Christ, look at these weak oppressed elf-womxn"?

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made." - J. R. R. Tolkien Pretty much sums up the entire woke culture and what Amazon is trying to do to a beloved franchise.

Where's Erik?

"We want to have strong female characters!" Yvanna, Luthien, Melian, Eowyn, Arwen, Galadriel: Are we a joke to you?

I mean if they wanted to make a dark fantasy show full of violence and sex nothing was stopping them they just wanted to destroy Tolkien's work

You couldn't be more wrong about Tolkien's intentions for Lord of the Rings. In one of Tolkien's letter he writes that he always intended to show that no matter how powerful the character may seem, ultimately it was one small act of kindness that brought Sauron down. When Frodo felt pity for Gollum and told Sam not to harm him he set in motion the events that would lead to the destruction of the ring and the downfall of Sauron. That was Tolkien's entire point, that it is the small, everyday acts of kindness that change the world. While it is true that Frodo never heals from the wound he got on Weather Top he does ultimately live out his life in the Undying Lands with the Elves, and so does Sam (although this is not shown in the film). And as Gandalf puts it at the end 'not all tears are evil'. I recommend you read the History of Middle Earth (12 volumes) and Tolkien's Letters. Both will illuminate your understanding of Tolkien's intentions.

I can’t really enjoy a good story personally without knowing if there is any homosexual tendencies among the characters. If there is they should mention them at least 5 times per episode. That’s the only way I can really enjoy a good story.

Tolkien was right. We are declining as society 'progresses'. EDIT: he's also spinning in his grave at this vandalisation of his life's work.

I will never understand why we need to cater to an audience that doesn't follow Tolkien's writings and/or have watched Lord of the Rings, this is such BS, I'm brown asf (Latino) never did watch LOTR and say, "this sucks no one looks like me." LOTR is by far the best film adaptation from a book I've ever seen.

Whats so woke about it? Not having a fully white cast?

Did this dude remove Erik's comment because he was afraid of how it would effect his online image ? That's pretty woke of him...

Peter Jackson's LOTR was a masterpiece because everyone on set loved the story. People who make movies today don't love or in some cases even like the movies they are making.

"Feature strong female characters" Eowyn fought the Witch King for nothing. Galadriel was not an All Powerful elf. Arwen preferred to live a mortal life because no reason. 😐

He is talking straight garbage without talking about the subject matter.

I was always under the impression that Tolkien's philosophy was "Evil destroys everything, including itself". Good people cannot defeat or destroy evil, they can only outlive it and endure the tide of evil that comes next. In the end, Frodo could not endure the evil any longer.

The movie trilogy was made with so much love and effort, this is gonna be such an insult to the books and the movies

As a Tolkien fanatic who looked forward to seeing the Second Age adapted for the screen, I'm so upset.

What? Amazon's "woke" adaptation is a shitshow? Imagine my shock.

If there was one film series that always brought me any my older brother together it was Lord of the Rings. The incredible story, the action, the amazing soundtrack. There was no "message" and no agenda it was just fun and exciting like every film should be. My brother passed away not too long ago and if he witnessed what was happening to our childhood and not just Lord of the Rings all of our entertainment that we enjoyed, he'd be disgusted by the agenda being forced on us. I still have the trilogy and plan to watch those films from time to time with our lil bro since those are masterpieces instead of watching this WOKE GARBAGE that they're doing.

Wheel of time diversity is the funniest. Two rivers a tiny village untouched by the outside world in millennia somehow has every race and ethnicity present in the village. This means they are all inbred it's the only way that's possible. It also means when the village started they made it using diversity quotas. "Nope you cant live in two rivers we already have a family of aboriginal Australians. We do need 2 eastern indians though" lol

Just remember that only one of his kids is trying to preserve his legacy. This is turning out just like Stan Lee. Everybody trying to grab at his intellectual property.

Im telling yall the strongest fighter will be a black female who is also gay and transgender and non-binary while also being a heterosexual white man

Slight correction. Vigo's sword wasn't a prop sword. It was real. He demanded a real sword be made for him.

The only part of LoTR that should get a GoT treatment is the fall of numenor/breaking the ban. But there us no way current year would ever depict hedonism as a sin or part of the downfall.

Justice for Mario, where is daddy's comment?

I've been saying the amazon series is going to be complete utter shit since it was announced and continue saying it. Nothing will change my mind because it will actually suck...

As soon as I heard there was going to be a black hobbit.. I knew it would suffer the same fate as Star Wars...

Can't believe they are trying to ruin something so beloved and timeless like "Lord of The Rings". As a die hard fan, this sickens me to my core.

First the Witcher and a *Latina Snow White* now this… I wonder if we’ll ever see an accurate show/movie of a European folklore in the future. I don’t have high hopes.

I love that you're pretending to mispronounce 'on purpose' to hide the fact that you can't even bother to read. Also, where is the etiquette here? Where are the badass Viggo Mortenssen facts?

Aragorn is the ideal archetype that every man should aspire to be.

Let's not forget that Tolkien was a Catholic and admitted his religion heavily influenced Lord of the Rings. It's time to just accept that any related work not produced by an IP's original creator is illegitimate.

I'm just glad I grew up as a teen and young adult to enjoy movies before Hollywood tainted everything with its current propaganda and agenda which was less pervasive at the time. I'm now mostly sticking to foreign films and good indie ones and games. Anime too doesn't follow in the footsteps of current American culture, and it's pretty good these days too! I have nothing against having a brown or black elves and in another novel,book,game it would be perfect as I like diversity in fantasy! But in the Tolkien mythos, it makes no fucking sense as there was no mention of such in the books. The only dark skinned people lived on the outskirts of middle earth known as Harad. Shoehorning agenda's into endearing works such as Tolkien is insulting and downright blasphemy to the lore fanatics. Cultural appropriation at its finest... Tolkien and his son would be rolling in their graves if they ever knew this would happen.

Let's not forget that different ethnicities certainly do exist in Tolkien's stories. We have the Easterlings- which Tolkien describes as a people that seem culturally and ethnically similar to Asian communities in our world, with appearances that correspond with people of both East and West-Asia. And we have the Haradrim/ Southrons who seem to reflect people of sub-Saharan Africa. Seeing characters of easterling/ Southron descent may mean we can find out more about the lands and the people that extend beyond the bulk of the story of lord of the rings.

If we use their wheel of time series as a judge this is going to be trash.

Gosh, it's very disappointing. We live in a time where creativity is starting to be hijacked and stifled. It's sad. 6-7 years ago I really hoped Harry Potter would be remade into a faithful TV show with all of the bits that the movies left out, but now I honestly don't think the current generation is capable of making a good adaptation.

10:52 You cannot say that Sam was more noble than Frodo. Frodo willingly took the One Ring and carried it through almost whole journey being constantly tempted by it. It was unimaginable spiritual, psychological and emotional burden. Sam did not do that and did not surfer through that, it is entarily possible he would sucumb earlier. The fact that Frodo sucumbed in the heart of Mordor doesn't render his nobilty invalid. Tolkien belived humans ultimetly cannot save themselves and will fall without help from God's Providance. Frodo also spared Gollum, which was essential mercy that enabled the destruction of the One Ring, while Sam wanted to kill him. Sam is great and all but he was not the 'true hero' of the story (which Sam himself knew) as some people say. For the matter of fact I do not think any single character is the 'true hero' of the LotR.

Where is Erik’s comment? Did Ted Cruz put you up to this?!

They destroyed Star Wars. It was inevitable, that they will come for Lotr as well.

Tolkien was a devout Catholic World War One veteran who felt a deep spiritual connection to ancient, Indo European folklore. The man was about as conservative as it gets, and this shows if you do a deep reading of his work. It’s shameful and disgusting the way they are willfully misinterpreting and perverting his work.

Dude I literally have a LOTR movie night happening tonight and your video popped up as I got off work. Thank you. The respect you give to Tolkien by standing up for his work is not lost on us. Much love man, can't stand the obsession with woke-afying everything classic. LOTR will forever stand tall. No spinoffs or "continuation" can ever hold a candle to the raging inferno that is Middle Earth. Thanks for the video homie, just earned yourself a sub for life

The same people that were racist enough to say orcs were meant to be black people are now in charge of making a LOTR show. YIKES.

You should see the conversations in Facebook groups. So many people keep trying to accuse anyone upset about this series is racist or sexist. I hope this suffers the fate of cowboy bebop. Enough of the wokifying of media. We don't like it and don't want it nor need it.

It's despicable that they waited until his son passed away to make this abomination. I have been a life long fan of Tolkien's work and will not watch this series.

Ice and Fire was GRR Martin's response to LOTR focusing on realpolitik. Hence the lesser focus on fantasy, more on Machiavellian backstabbing, violence, explicit sex and nudity. So yeah its absolutely defeats the purpose of the LOTR show trying to be GOT.

Ellen Ripley (the Alien series) was a strong female character. One of the many, many things that is wrong with Rings of Power is that the "strong" females are WOKE, not strong. There's a huge difference. WOKE is fake, phony, forced and presented to lecture, not entertain. I watch films for entertainment ... not modern propaganda WOKENESS. Apparently, 99% of the females agree with what I'm saying. So, Amazon has unleashed a billion dollar flop. Ha ha. Serves them right.

Fun fact: no one who is someone is actually disappointed because they knew from day one that this would be woke garbage.

Disney: no one can ruin a multi generational behemoth IP like we can Amazon: hold my black hobbits

As a female, I fucking HATE this ‘strong female lead trope’ hated that ginger haired woman in the hobbit film trilogy.

I'm black. Have been for 30 years. And I never wanted to see a black hobbit not once. I read these wonderful books growing up. Got lost in the pages of an amazing world like no other. The movies came out, and I thought they were amazing interpretation for what usually fails to become a good on screen adaptation. But I thought, "here's some movies that the average Joe can watch, and understand the greatness of lotr without picking up the book". Then the Hobbit series came out, utter garbage. But I feel like the show will align more with the Hobbit theme than the original lotr trilogy. If not more woke and more ridiculous. I'm saddened to know this. Because I love to get my hands on anything lotr. Video games, books, lore.

*FemiNazi intersectionalist:* "We want strong female characters!" *Eowyn:* Am I a joke to you? *Arwen:* Am I a joke to you? *Galadriel:* Am I the biggest joke to you? Sorry, but the Wokeists will never win on this one. First, my favorite character is Eowyn, because of how tragic she is. She not only could never be with Aragorn, whom she loved, but she was told she couldn't fight -- and still went out and fought for Rohan anyway. Then, facing down one of the most evil threats, Angmar, the Witch King, he says, "No man can kill me..." To which Eowyn replies, LIKE A BADASS, "I am no man!" After which, she precedes to kill him by stabbing him in the face. Then take Arwen: She literally saves Frodo by summoning a water elemental, then says to the Hunters chasing him, "If you want him, come and claim him!" And finally, Galadriel. This woman knew what the Ring was, was tempted by it, and resisted. She did what Isildur was unable to do, 3 millenia prior. She resisted taking ultimate power for herself or her people. Yet, somehow, that's not a strong woman!? Cate Blanchett, Liv Tyler, and Miranda Oslo all played beautiful, amazing female characters who were strong as hell. They did things no man did, or could, do. Yet somehow this disease called "wokeness" has to invade what was already a top story, top movie, and infest a healthy host because politics. I am sick and tired, no pun intended, of being told I have to believe, politically, by people who should stay in their effing lane, and be entertainers instead of talking heads or politician-liteists. And people wonder where the quality of Hollywood has been for 20 years... *Insert Picard Facepalm Here*

Another thing: it should be known that it would be shit. After Christopher Tolkien died the concept of the show was rewritten and Tolkien scholars fired.

If this dude was alive in 1950, GUARANTEE he would complain about black Americans playing in the NBA. This is such an empty headed video. It’s baffling how you even managed to glue together 20 minutes of garbage. I’m almost impressed about how you rambled on for so long but still managed to say literally nothing at all.

Let's wait till it comes out before we call it garbage.

Modernism and technological advancements may allow us to live safer and more comfortably... but I'd argue (and I'm sure Tolkien would too) that living this way makes us weaker and immoral. I mean...just look at the world right now.

People who aren’t already into LOTR probably aren’t gonna be interested in this show. And if you fill the show with political messages, brutal violence and titties you’re gonna alienate the people who are actual fans of LOTR. I hope it’s not true that they’re going this direction, but if they are then they’re really shooting themselves in the foot.

Don't care. Where's Erik.

It’s not even out yet? We don’t even have any footage to judge it. Wait until you see it and then you can call it “Woke Garbage”.

Soon presented by Disney: "Roxxie X" After a long hard struggle, a Transwoman is winning the Boxing World Championship (for Women) in the first round. Suffer, Romance, Action and Tears for the whole family.

Based on the woke hatchet job they're doing on the first season of the Wheel of Time, another juggernaught series in the fantasy realm, I think I'm done watching any adaptations from Amazon that are based on litrature I've loved for most of my life. They're too dumb and egotistical to be ashamed and just keep pumping out garbage.

Amazon isn't making an adaptation of the Silmarillion, they're making a GOT rip off. I won't be convinced otherwise, and I won't be watching it.

“Evil is not capable of creating anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” - J.R.R. Tolkien

How can a fictional series that is set thousand years ago be woke. Wtf is wrong with these ppl

This saddens me beyond belief. The Hobbit was the first book as a child that I fell in love with and it led to a lifelong adoration of famous literarrary novels. My heart is breaking.

Good doesn't necessarily need to defeat Evil. It only needs to be able to fight back and persevere long enough for Evil to defeat itself from within. This is what Frodo was able to accomplish.

Dude the teaser just dropped. How does anyone know what direction it’s going?

what´s most worst in the woke narrrative story: second age - poc elves and dwares third age - no more poc elves and dwarves. Where did the poc E&D went? Did they get cleansed wrong middle-earth?

Apart from all the woke-crap analysis being spot on, the triva about Viggo goes so much further. While the making of this trilogy was obviously amazing in itself, Viggo is a goddamned legend in his own right. The man nearly died multiple times filming these things. He broke bones, chipped teeth and almost ended up on the bottom of a river. He did as many stunts as he was allowed to do, practiced horseback riding on his days off and kept his sword with him at all times on set. He did all this because his son liked the books and told him to take the part. And somehow the guy is one of the quietest, humblest and most unassuming actors in Hollywood. I guarantee there is no one working on this upcoming woke POS that holds even a 10th of the commitment and respect that Viggo did for his role. F off posers.

When I was a kid, I read all of the books and watched the trilogy countless time even now. I found Eowyn to be a character I really enjoyed as well as Galadriel... Strong female characters that still remained feminine. Though Eowyn has her lines about being a woman, I didn't personally find it taxing to get through, even today. She was still shown as a woman with sympathy and her weak points but I liked how she, Galadriel, and Arwen consistently had a maternal presence to them. None of the "mah strongk wahmens who can kickflip a man". The women were nuanced and interesting like all the male characters. And it's okay if the female character isn't a super strong warrior. And... Frankly, the character I actually related the most to was Aragorn; which apparently these people think I'm not "supposed" to do as a woman. Sean is totally correct in his wording. This is a total vandalization of the series. ( I would like to note that I am a woman. )

Hey. It's me a Mario! Why you talk about me like that. Why I oughta

Putting black, asian and mexican people into European roles inside medieval based content and then prentend they always were there isn't inclusive 🤦🏼. Inclusive would be to "include" the history of these people into content, but then theyd actually have to care and research about the culture of these people. Which they won't and don't so here we are.

The only reason they want the LOTR IP is for the recognition. It will give casual audience’s a reference point and save Amazon the trouble of coming up with their own IP. As a LOTR fan, I would like to believe that they will do right by the source material. But to quote Gandalf. “There never was much hope. Just a fool’s hope.”

People asking “when will they learn, get woke go broke?” are missing the point. This destruction and perversion of classic works is ideologically motivated and intentional. Earnings and the financial bottom line are of secondary importance to the perpetrators.

I’m not sure you have the pronunciation of “choreographed” right, but this woke crap needs to stop. No one complained about “representation” in the original films. None of us are hobbits, elves, orks, or whatever.

Where is Erik’s comment?

We live in the age of canonized fanfiction. We will ALWAYS have the original trilogy and that’s all that matters.

I didn't know Vigo almost died in that fight. The incident that I was aware of was that Vigo really broke his toe when he kicked the helmet in Two Towers, but I'm sure most people know about that one. Vigo did such a great job as Aragorn, and these movies are still my favorite to date. I just feel bad that he had so many incidents during filming. What a king just moving forward with the project in spite of all of it. I don't think anyone would blame him if he had dropped the role after being almost killed in Fellowship. On a side note: Femenists and sjws need to stay away from already existing Ips.

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made." - J. R. R. Tolkien

Death of our favorite franchises is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this woke world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it. White shores, and beyond, a far green country, faithful to the source material, under a swift sunrise.

Every time I hear it mentioned that anyone wants to make a GoT-like Tolkien work, it makes me want to break things. Filth is fine in it's own place, but it does not belong in my Chivalrous High Fantasy. I like viscous violence in my entertainment usually more than the next person, but it doesn't need to be shoved into everything, and if you absolutely *must* shove unnecessary sex into Tolkien's worlds, do so in your fanfiction, and don't demand that I recognize it as canon.

The depth of Tolkien's genius cannot be overstated.

Black hobbits, black elves, Asian orcs..ya this will be a winner.

I just want to add that orcs were way more savage when you actually look into what all they did. I mean think ab it the first dark lord was almost infinitely powerful and he used that power to in Saruman’s words “torture and mutilated” an entire race of creatures with human like intelligence.. so basically the very worst of violent human behavior is what they became so in reality orcs were probably vile rapists and what you would really call a monster. Such as getting sick enjoyment from extensive torture to small elvish children because they hate them for not being cursed damaged and ugly like they are. It’s both sad and scary and to think but extremely interesting it’s such a shame we’ll never get a representation of that bc everything has to be soft and pathetic nowadays

Sounds like the series will be an abomination.

No clue why people didn't see this coming. The producers, writers and director all told us they were gonna make it woke

"Evil cannot create, it can only sell cheap knock-offs on Amazon!"