I have BPD and it’s people like Amber Heard that give us a bad name! I said to my psychiatrist that I don’t want to be like her and she laughed. The are so many ways the disorder can manifest and it’s our behaviour and the choices that we make that define us, not the diagnosis.

My sister was diagnosed with BPD in her teens, she almost destroyed our family. We walked on eggshells around her. She would turn on you, hit you and insult you and a few hours later she would act as if nothing happened. She has mellowed some in her later years, but this disorder is devastating.

I’m currently divorcing a diagnosed borderline/histrionic. I can completely relate to what Johnny Depp has been through. It’s hard for me to listen to her testimony because it’s so very obvious to me, and it’s makes me incredibly uncomfortable.

I suffer from BPD (also ptsd and psychotic depression). The moment I began reading about AH and her behaviours, I said to my husband she has BPD. A little way into the trial it was confirmed. Its frightening to watch her self destruct. Before treatment (8+ years of therapy, good medications that work for me and a wonderfully supportive partner and friends) I honestly believe I would have gone down the same path as her. I have BPD but could NEVER harm my partner how she has JD. I have genuine worries about how her diagnosis will affect the BPD community. Most BPD sufferers are just abused children who are emotionally stunted. During flares, my partner and friends have said I behave like a tantruming 6 year old, not a person with sinister and cruel motives. Not all BPD sufferers are like AH.

I' d like to point out that people with BPD can also be empathetic, sincerely loving, and caring when they aren't having a meltdown; and not in a manipulative way. My daughter is classic BPD. She went many years with a bipolar diagnosis but that simply didn't cover the whole story. I understand that she may be both borderline and bipolar which may very well be. My main point is that after rages and meltdowns she feels terrible and us apologetic. From the little I have seen of Amber it doesn't seem she has any remorse for or take any responsibility for any things she had done. She seems to be a malignant narcissist.

When I first got into therapy I was diagnosed as borderline. There were things about the DBT therapy that were useful, but for the most part it was not helpful. Being put in a group with a dozen other people diagnosed as borderline only became damaging when the facilitators didn't protect me from their verbal attacks. Years later I was diagnosed with PTSD by a different shrink and treatment for that has been a great deal more helpful. My therapist is using EMDR which has helped me function far better. I think part of the reason for the misdiagnosis was the abuse I suffered at the hands of my parents that I thought of as normal. It took me a lot of time and therapy to come to terms with it. The sexual abuse I suffered as a child was so hard for me to even say happened much less talk about. It made my behavior quite erratic and it is only in hindsight that I see it was PTSD.

We don't have to be "as bad as" Amber Heard for our maladaptive coping behaviors to have a profound & damaging effect on the psyches of those closest to us. Very few of us seem to want to acknowledge this.

I have borderline personality disorder is extremely hard to live with

My mother had BPD and I was her target. Growing up I tried to find out what I had done to make her dislike me so much and I would try to be as good as I could possibly be without any success. My favorite place to hide was in my closet and I knew better than to ever give her direct eye contact. My father would take me to my grandparents every weekend to keep me away from her. For the longest time I thought she was bipolar. No one in the family would talk about it even after she abandoned my sister and I in an apartment for a year when I was in high school. My father didn't know due to a restraining order she had on him that wouldn't allow him near us or to communicate with us. I totally understand Dr. Curry's assessment.

My son committed suicide at the young age of 21 after his girlfriend, who he only knew for a few months, left him. I live in grief and regret almost every day because I don't feel like I understood his condition well enough and didn't take the necessary steps to keep him safe. If you know anyone with BPD, please be very patient and sensitive. They're not all bad people. On the contrary they have an incredible level of compassion, creativity, and depth that many people lack. The suicide rate among those suffering with BPD is higher than any other mental condition and 1 in 10 people end their life. For that reason, it's very important to be patient and understanding. Here are some guidelines I put together to help family and friends deal with someone that has BPD: 1. Avoid triggers that could set them off - For example, avoid yelling at them and instead of criticizing them when they’re frustrated, validate how they feel and emphasize you’re there to help and support them. 2. Do not place them in situations that could aggravate them - For example, don’t expect them to take four college classes at the same time or work a busy 50-hour week at a stressful job, especially when they’re still an adolescent. Only give them as much responsibilities as they can handle and provide them with a safe and calm environment at home. 3. Be compassionate - All your interactions should be done in love and compassion. Remember, they are highly sensitive to criticism and rejection. So instead of getting mad when they didn’t do something right, validate their frustration and offer your help. 4. Communicate clearly - People with BPD often misinterpret language or facial expressions and may not understand your true intentions. To prevent that from happening, be very specific when speaking to them. For example, instead of saying, “I’m busy right now, I can’t talk!” say, “I’m sorry, I’m really busy right now and I have to get this project done, but I should be done in around 30 minutes and then we can talk, ok?” 5. Keep them close - People with BPD can very quickly go from feeling on top of the world to becoming suicidal because someone hurt their feelings or they got fired from their job. For that reason, you should avoid letting someone with BPD from living by themselves and handle the stresses of life on their own. They need to be in the company of a responsible adult whenever possible and any instruments that could be used for self-harm (i.e., guns, drugs, knives, ropes) should be secured and put out of reach. 6. Keep them busy - People with BPD often live in their heads and spend a lot of time thinking about their troubles and pain. The best thing you can do to help them is keeping them busy with activities they enjoy. This can vary from enrolling them in sporting activities or working on projects around the house. As they say, “an idle mind is the devils workshop!”

Some borderlines blame themselves way too much for everything and don't necessarily want fame. So it's much more complex than this

I unfortunately have BPD and it's so sad to see situations like this happen because there's already such a bad stigma around it and this is just going to make it worse 💔 so many people I know with BPD/EUPD are secretly struggling including myself but we are decent and self-aware people healing and dedicated to getting better and it's so hard to be honest with others about your diagnosis because of how it's seen by others...I don't know if she has it but it doesn't excuse her behaviour at all

As a woman with BPD, I can tell you that it feels like having your guts in the blender for years on end. Even if we're beautiful, intelligent, and seductive, I can tell you we're not happy and we don't feel like we got away with something.

I think the best way to describe living with someone who has bpd is that you're constantly walking on eggshells. The smallest gesture or remark can set them off. And no matter how much patience and understanding I have, being on the receiving end of it is not a pleasant experience. That's why I'm so invested in this case, because I recognized it. I've been through that myself. I know (or at least want to believe) not everyone with bpd is like that, but I guess i'm just jaded and hurt and those wounds still have not healed.

Dr. Curry wasn't the IPV expert, that was the expert witness for Amber. Amber's expert witness was Dr. Dawn Hughes. Dr Curry is a forensic psychologist. Dr. Curry kept her testimony to her evaluation of Amber, Dr. Hughes said that she did that too, then went on to relay what Amber told her!

The reason Dr Curry had to meet with amber and do diagnostic tests (which then led to her opinion of BHPD) is because it's part of amber's case against johnny alleging that she did indeed suffer ptsd from their relationship. So yes I agree it comes from a subjective place because she's looking for it, BUT it was court ordered and not necessarily only to align with JDs legal team's hypothesis but to serve both sides' specific arguments. So basically amber brought in on herself by claiming damages. Dr curry proved no damage, which also indirectly bolstered her PD dxs

It was my understanding that Amber Heard agreed to be assessed by the psychologist in order to bolster her claim that she lives with severe PTSD brought on by the abuse she suffered at the hands of Johnny Depp. But during the course of testing the doctor found her to be lying about that, and found instead, that based on her answers she ticked all the boxes for BPD and histrionic personality disorder. So, I do not agree with you that the doctor was trying to find a diagnosis to fit her. Amber was her own undoing. There were over 500 questions with a specific standardized formula for interpreting the information given. The findings are the findings. She wasn't tricked or trapped. Rather, she was caught in a webb of her own making and Johnny's legal team had every right to have Dr.Curry read out the results of those tests in court. Amber herself, opened that door.

OH! She absolutely "split" the therapists on the case. The psych that evaluated amber for her side is completely drawn in by amber. She accepts everything she says as fact and is clearly under Amber's control. Doctor curry had a much more objective opinion and also amber clearly hates Dr.Curry.

Diagnosis is the ONLY way to understand what you are dealing with. I remember writing an essay on the pros and cons of diagnosis. I am very pro diagnosis.

Please discuss the 4 subtypes of Borderline Personality Disorder. I've struggled with BPD for most of my life, & do not want lay people to associate AH's presentation of the disorder, & all her bad behavior, with ME in any way. Because this diagnosis has been included in the testimony in this trial that everyone is tuned into, I'm worried about the negative fallout for all of us suffering from the disorder. I fear that AH has firmly established us as the new "villain," & that people are going to start throwing the term "borderline" around WAY to liberally, without adequate knowledge of the individual or the disorder to be an to even BEGIN to make such a diagnosis, much like the term "narcissist" has been tossed around over the past couple of years or so. I think something that is NOT coming across in any of the videos I've seen discussing the trial & AH's diagnosis, is how very different one Borderine can be from the next. We are also embued with some pretty good character traits as well. Borderlines are highly empathic. We can read other people's emotions with ease. We tend to be very creative as well. We value our relationships a LOT, & as a result, we are fiercely loyal. We're passionate about the things that we care about. We are quick to point out injustice, & we advocate for fairness in all of our activities & interactions. We are hella FUN. Our spontaneous side, while it gets us into trouble sometimes, often has us trying new things & going on memorable adventures, & talking our friends & loved ones into following our lead. My best friend says that what makes me dangerous is that I can take the worst idea & communicate it in such a way that it SOUNDS absolutely reasonable, & like a lot of fun. And before you know it, we're sitting in a jail cell! In my defense, I've only gotten us arrested twice in 26 years of friendship. 😏 AH does not seem to be experiencing all the shame & guilt usually associated with BPD. We KNOW our behavior is inappropriate (after we've calmed down, anyway) & are deeply ashamed & embarassed by what we've said or done. I just don't see any of that in AH. Johnny Depp's reputation is on the mend, now that details about the couple's (s'posta been) private life have come out in court, thus garnering him sympathy in the court of public opinion. The Borderline community, though, has taken a devastating blow to OUR individual reputations. Amber Heard is a public relations nightmare, & there's no telling how long it will take us to recover from the damage she's done! I had only gotten comfortable with sharing my diagnosis with other people in recent years. This created the opportunity for me to explain why I react the way I do sometimes, to warn those around me of specific triggers & pitfalls best avoided, & to apologize in advance for times I might get out of hand. All that is gone now. I won't be sharing my diagnosis with anyone anymore. I feel like a social pariah! And all thanks have gotta go to Amber Heard for that. Anything you can do here on your channel to mitigate the damage she's done would be ever-so-appreciated! Now how 'bout those 4 subtypes? Hmmm...? 😘✌🏼

My mother had BPD and Bi Polar. My father was ASPD. I really believe most of the people with these types of diagnoses need to be held accountable for their actions. All to often they are just given free reign-to destroy people and come out unscathed. They can be very slippery and sly .

All I can’t unread is… SHE SHAT THE BED! I also reckon there a smidge of narc going on as well as the EUPD/Histrionic diagnosis. This is one fckd up woman.

Amber is 1000% borderline. She is absolutely petrified of being abandoned, highly emotional, cannot accept any form of blame etc etc, the list goes on. If you have any doubt, listen to the audios uploaded by thatbrianfella on KZfaq and you'll see what I mean.

I suffered a relationship with a borderliner. The book, "Stop Walking on Eggshells", helped me a lot. That, and not engaging ever again.

The audio/video of some of AH's exchanges with JD sure did sound like intense distress over "abandonment". Her whole testimony - even the tearless 'crying' and fast-shifting facial contortions - seemed to be underpinned by flashing ANGER - even though what she was describing would be felt as very SAD by most people = the loss of a close relationship. Both AH and JD got together verrrry quickly, and after the year-long 'honeymoon' phase, their connection became increasingly toxic, abusive. She had no friends supporting her in court. Observing AH's behaviours helped me understand 'borderline' much better - I feel lucky to have never known anyone like this in my life. Thanks for the explanation of "splitting" - which I have never fully understood.

I was diagnosed with BPD because my mother (some form of cluster B) used me as the scapegoat and needed all my behavior to be my fault and not a reaction to emotional neglect and emotional abuse. I have recently discovered, at 40 years old, that I actually have CPTSD and either sensory processing disorder or ASD - I was always told my reactions to sensory things I couldn’t handle was me being manipulative. I really learned about it and accepted I was a borderline and then hated myself because everyone thinks borderlines are THE WORST even though I didn’t behave that way and being able to let go of that has been a game changer.

Yes, I agree that Dr Curry would be diagnosing AH from a very subjective viewpoint. However, 90% of her testimony was describing the disorders, not so much of what she observed with AH. From my view, she need not have even met with AH: she could have just described the disorder and most of us would have reached the conclusion that AH has BPD just from watching and listening to the tapes. Boggles my brain that AH made all those recordings thinking they would prove her point of Johnny being an abuser! That also proves (to me) that she has a very skewed view of what was going on in their lives.

I really disagree with the BPD diagnosis, someone with BPD act's on an unstoppable emotion, all her actions in the past and present clearly show no regret even proudness in the damage and pain her actions and lies have caused. The fact she filmed everything from the start to frame her spouse and the lack of empathy, emotions and a clear self centered grandiose behavior where she thinks that "I am better then everybody else" in every situation I mean it all screams Narcissist and or Sociopath.

Thanks Dr, as usual informative & thought 💭 provoking. My son’s ex was same diagnosis & our whole families lives were damaged by her. We supported her, loved her, tried to get her help but nothing was enough. She has no care for anyone except creating drama. She collected multiple animals and left them traumatically for them neglected. Both her grandparents told me that she was a piece of work & protect my son. He has taken 2 years to understand what happened and rebuild the friendships she attacked. I had no idea such a condition existed & even though very experienced, having her in our inner circle was like being with a shape shifter and we were all out of our depth!

I was mis-diagnosed as BPD when I actually had autism and c-ptsd. This was in the UK. BPD took years to be removed and it still pops up and needs to be corrected.

My aunt has BPD and it’s bad. We went to Costco and lost sight of her. So we decided to check out our items. We decided to wait outside for her. She came out in a RAGE. She refused to speak to us and when she opened the truck of her car, she began to unload her cart by literally throwing her items into the truck. She would hold the item as if she was pitching on a mound and hurl them. We got into the car and she drove at 100mph all the way home, swerving between cars. I almost called 911. People with BPD are a living nightmare and are the most rotten people on earth.

You described my ex girlfriend to a T. It was such a confusing time, she'd be happy and then literally 10 minutes later, would switch to being morose and monosyllabic or kind one minute then hostile and angry the next........and seemingly for absolutely no reason whatsoever. She had idealised me then all of a sudden she was antagonistic towards me, again, for no apparent reason. I knew soon enough that I had to get away from her because she didnt see any of this, even when I pointed it out to her. She refused to go to counselling, she refused to admit she was ever wrong and her relationship with the truth was non existent. Now, a couple of years later, I can see she was 100% boderline and to be honest, had I known this information back then I would have ended the relationship as soon as I saw that first red flag. Lesson learned(the hard way as usual).

AH is a textbook BPD. Ticking all the boxes I have experienced with my borderline ex. I had to accept her condition as a psychological handicap (e.g. incapable of empathy and handling blame and responsibility of what she causes and inflicts), so I could understand and process what she's done to me, herself (yes, BPD are victim of themselves), and anyone around her. Including our kids! Just horrible!

What makes Amber's flavor of Borderline so malignant & toxic are the co-morbid Cluster B traits of both the narcissistic & sociopathic variety which run parallel to her BPD. Just my two cents! ✌️

Always enjoy your videos and hearing your take on Dr. Curry’s testimony was interesting. I do wish you had spoken about the MMPI 2 tho, as I would like to learn more about it. Perhaps you could do a full length video on that topic!

I find it to be fascinating and somewhat creepy that people suffering from BPD aren't only constantly changing their opinions and feelings towards themselves, their friends, family members and partners, but that they also often change their memories about how they've felt about something or somebody. When I get to know somebody and at first like that person, I might change my feelings towards that person later, but I will never change the memory of having liked that person at first. People with BPD can totally change this kind of memories, they even sometimes "remember" having being "raped", when in fact they themselves inititated the sexual contact without being drunk or on drugs, they later "remember" it totally different and they don't necessarily lie about these "memories". I once visited a music festival with some of my friends, a friend of a friend I hadn't known before, seemed to enjoy himself all day, until one of the last bands playing pissed him off for some reason. He got really angry and ranted about what a shitty day he have had all day. When I told him that to me me he had seemed to have enjoyed himself until that one band had annoyed him, he got aggressive towards me, yelling at me, threatening me. I later got to know that he suffers from BPD, but at the moment it happened, I was totally surprised by his sudden rage. Later that day on my way home I got mugged and severly injured. But I can still rememeber having had a rather fun day untill I got mugged.

I'm honestly confused by the BPD diagnosis because she's so scheming, vindictive, manipulative and lacking in empathy. Some of her abuse was explosive, but some was very planned and thought out. I really thought there would be classic malignant narcissism in there somewhere. Then again, I'm not a psychologist, I just watch a lot of KZfaq. 😄

I think no one really knows how a borderline feels because each one is slightly different just with some overlapping symptoms. Complex ptsd is often misagnksed as boarderline.most these people have trauma

That lack of empathy, the need for supply like an itch that will never be scratched, the absolute refusal to accept any responsibility, and the feeding off of other people's pain gives me more narcissistic vibes than bpd.

Hi, two years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD and I was relieved that someone could finally tell me why I felt like I did. I was diagnosed because I was knocked down on a pelican crossing 40 years ago and still have nightmares about the pavement rushing towards me and stopping a few centimetres from my face. I guess the term PTSD wasn’t known then. it has been a long journey of not being able to cross roads if cars are coming towards me, fearing roundabouts because cars come from all directions at me and even crossing the road on foot. I am actually glad that I now have a name to what I feel and my grown up sons never knew how difficult a walk to the local park was for me. The injuries are getting worse now that I am older, but I feel I have been brave for the last 40 years and even though I have to have a stick when I go outside, I am proud that I managed to get this far. Stubborn determination with a sassy attitude..... that’s me. Love your channel, I have worked on the front line of ASD for over 44 years and my difficulties enabled me to have an amazing amount of empathy for those in my care. I helped families in crisis to stay together and live a higher quality of life and I helped them to achieve things they never thought they would. Now that I physically can’t work anymore my brain refuses to not be able to help others and I have written a book on all aspects of ASD in five environments with plenty of experiences of over 4 decades to back it up. Never give up is my philosophy in life....there is always someone that could do with your empathy. Thank you for your empathy in the work that you do Dr Das, you make a difference to people’s lives for sure. Regards

About time a psychiatrist says PTSD is caused by a life threatening event/events. Years ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, major depression, generalized anxiety, other things. PTSD is embarrassing. When I had it every time a man would just raise their hand around me or approach me in what seemed be in an assertive way I automatically fell to the ground and put my arms up over my face and head. Also it was exhausting.. I ended up drinking a lot to be able to sleep at night. Anyway it seems a lot of psych Drs on here downplay it to being just anxiety, depression, and or low self esteem. Not saying having those things isn't bad, because I have struggled with those things myself, but there's more to having PTSD than having those things. PS I say when I had it, because I'm not constantly on alert anymore and I don't have night terrors, along with other things.

Liked your observations. When watching AH testify in this trial, and viewing her previous recorded deposition, my gut reaction was mostly everything she said seemed phony, concocted, intended to make JD look bad, and her to look like a victim. Dr Curry helped me validate my instincts with the clinical definitions of behavioral disorders that I was uneducated about. When I was a highschool instructor and counselor for at-risk-youth I worked with some extremely abused young people, and saw up close how the abuse effected them, and how it manifested in their behavior, and their reactions to interviews and stress. Some of their accounts and stories affected me deeply, I often had to hold back my tears. I would weep sometimes elsewhere when I was reflecting. With AH my sense is that her behavior is contrived and her stories are hollow fabrications.

i think referring to people with bpd/traits of bpd as "a bit of a nightmare" is stigmatizing for a group that is already severely stigmatized. saying a relationship with them can be a bit of a nightmare would be more fair, if you must use the word. i know it's just a slight difference in phrasing but it matters. "maybe you know someone like this, maybe that relationship is extremely challenging/tumultuous/disorienting/painful/frustrating" is descriptive, validating, and true without placing judgment on the person with bpd.

I enjoyed this video and have subscribed. I had a friend for many years who I now believe to be a borderline. She loved me and then hated me. I had noticed how she was constantly fighting with her husband or family members and often wondered what that was all about. I was diagnosed with PTSD recently at age 60. I believe this all started when I was almost strangled by an ex boyfriend who had been abusive. I was 21. I often found myself being anxious with rapid heartbeat and when I look back , it was always around acts of DV. Not mine but people who were friends. It doesn’t seem to bother me too much. And now I know when it is happening and usually why. Our minds are very powerful. So, keep up the good work. Lisa

My adopted brother (we grew up together but not biological) has BPD, I do not have a relationship with him due to his refusal to get help. Also I had a coworker who had BPD, she made our office a living hell

Thank You for this 👍🏼 I personally have PTSD and have dealt with people who are borderline and histrionic and some other things as well, it's quite a myriad of human conditions

Hey~I've recently graduated with a degree in medicine and I aspire to become a psychiatrist, I've also been diagnosed with Borderline personality disorder about 6 years ago. To be honest, cbt and dbt has helped me so much over the past years, not to say that psychiatric medication don't have their place. The amount of pain I've been through drives me towards psychiatry in so many ways. I believe mental illness needs a multidisciplinary team to make a large impact on the patients overall health.

A Psych For Sore Minds ... ha ha ha ... I love it. I've subscribed after seeing you on Sean Atwood's channel.

I was diagnosed with BPD in the 80s. It was never followed up clinically and was a struggle to unwind myself. A label would have given me a place to begin in realigning myself with who I want to be. Labels are there for a reason. If you don't believe me, go into your pantry and remove all the labels from your cans. See how well that improves cooking. Live your vids Dr. Sas

Like listening to someone describing my ex wife. Mind you I also think she has elements of dependent and also narcissistic personality disorders too.

I’m so glad that you made the distinction between mental illness and personality disorder. I’m not keen on the “suffers from” description of personality disorders either.

Excellent & through content, very well spoken. Thank you. I wasn’t on the jury. I’ve only seen a slice of evidence in the case of AH’s BPD evaluation. After reading the previous comments I can speak from personal experience that if you have BPD then please, please do not be dismissive and get professional help. Also, avoid drinking, drugs, lying, and fame at all costs. To all the sweet ones living with BPD never forget that your partners may love you more than the world yet they do not deserve to be crushed by your dis regulated emotional tsunami unleashed in moments when you lose control. We are all in this together. We all need to take responsibility for our actions and continue to learn ways to find peace in ourselves. IMHO, your mileage may vary, yet I still love you to…

İ agree with you. Most possibly, a simple borderline would have been sitting at home, still, waiting for the partner to come back. Making it public, craving for more attention, having no regrets, and creating a global mess wouldn't be something a simple borderline prefers to do, it more likely fits the HPD side. Also, her attitude towards people of lower social level that you mentioned might be explained by narcissistic behaviour rather than bpd, I believe. She confuses me a lot, i think we are watching a dangerous mixture of all.

It’s painful. As a survivor of I intimate partner relations, she is full of 💩. She is making it so much harder for the rest of us! It is horrible. Toxic relationship-yes. But, she is clearly the aggressor!

Very well articulated and informative! Saw your input on Mr black (the disturbing truth channel). I love the take on psychology with your channel, being interested and majored in psychology. And for the record, you hit the nail on the head with amber, and I enjoyed this video. Will be subbing ! 👏

Whole other topic here but WHY is Dr. Grande's pop psychology recommended more than your educational and honest channel? I would have never found you if I didn't see your analysis on Dr. Grande. That guy erks me to my core. Happy to be here on your channel. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us psych enthused minds. ❤

I’m not a mental health professional but in the context of this case I think the JD legal team had solid grounds to appoint an expert witness that could speak to Amber Heard’s possible diagnoses since it was her who first publicly said that she suffered from PTSD and other psychological issues due to the alleged abuse by Johnny Depp. The legal team is trying to offer a different narrative to what she said and establish that maybe what she said is not entirely true, hence there’s space for the defamation claim. Plus she opened the door to the psychological evaluation talk as those admissions came directly from her.

This is totally me. I'm a lot better than I was, after intense private therapy, but I just hide it better. It's extremely hard to get a diagnosis in Britain. In my experience, everything just gets bundled under severe depression and anxiety. My background is loss of both parents, Foster care, neglect, abuse, trauma, so it fits with what you said.

Gratitude for your channel and insights! I echo the concerns about unfair negative reactions to people managing BPD potentially arising after this trial. It is so true that people with this Dx can have strong empathy, compassion, and sincere remorse for hurting others before seeking therapy. Questions: was anyone bone-chilled by AH's subtle smiles during the humiliating tapes of JD in pain; her cold stare at JD before the fake sad face toward the jury during his testimony; her cold stare at CV flashed after a sad face toward the jury when called out; and shocked (?) furious (?) expression when saying she could not believe JD would fight back, possibly because of her cruelty and fleeting power over him following her Op-ed? May ASPD signs be presenting?

I have been waiting for your take on this, thank you, what a case this is. 👍🙋🇳🇿

In the borough I worked in there was very little specialist input for people diagnosed with EUPD/emerging EUPD. I have known of people being diagnosed after an initial review in the community and then discharged. Seemingly, little use of structured assessments/schedules. I also witnessed casual referencing to a personality disorder diagnosis in a ward round (when there was an extant, primary diagnosis). Once diagnosed, people had no access to a specialist service within the Trust and only a lucky few might be offered mentslisation based arts therapy. In respect of the clinician giving evidence, I felt she focussed solely on the negative aspects of EUPD (even though there was nothing innaccurate about her clinical perspective on traits and DSM guidance). The ICD also offers a slightly more nuanced approach as it identifies the differences between an explosive aspect versus a quieter manifestation. Personally, having lived with an Amber, I have no doubt that JD was impacted psychologically as well as physically. What this case highlights is that life is nuanced and complex and the split arguments from legal teams often fall short in describing the reality of relational conflict.

I had been diagnosed with PTSD while in a narcissistic relationship for 11 yrs. I was not in a life-threatening situation, although the life of my mental and emotional health were threatened. I suffered dusassociation very badly, night terrors, intense emotional flashbacks, severe panic attacks, taking risks with my safety to the point of self-harm, severe anxiety, fear of leaving my home, trouble sleeping, and the list goes on. Alot of the symptoms for BPD and NPD overlap. Her mood shifts is trauma bonding. I would like to know the difference between the anger outbursts and narcissistic rage. Both diagnoses are so similar. I dont believe Heard is promiscuous, and it seems like she gets attention for being beautiful rather than using her beauty to mesmerize and seduce men. She's quite interpersonal exploitative as Depp has stated he shared his deepest and emotional secrets and experiences only to have them used against him as a weapon. Also Heard herself has stated (paraphrasing) that if Depp voiced his abuse, no one would believe him. NPD involves splitting, seeing your significant other as competition, trying to control a public image and reputation, and all of it.

Hello Dr Das, thank you for making this video. I wondered whether you could make a comparison video between BPD and NPD or being narcissistic, as I )ind it difficult to discern between the two, the symptoms being quite similar. Thank you and we love you too! :)

And once they are 'abandoned' (which happens when you can no longer cope with the out of control roller coaster behaviours) there's countless accounts of people who are then falsely accused of stuff, smear campaigns etc. In anger it's like 'you hurt me by leaving, I'm going to hurt you back'

I can relate to how a lovely human being can try to help someone with BPD(like JD) usually they tend to be over the top when everything goes well, caring, protective and very intense. But it goes both way, depending on their surroundings, and their education, they are so fearful that they often make bad choices on impulse and spiralling compulsively in the past memory or in the futur desire. I just left my ex with BPD since I was arguing too much and I was afraid that she could be destructive to my temper. Even thought I loved her, I was unable to have the necessary space and step back of the emotional entanglement. I’m on a 6 months break just so I hope we can still be friends if that’s possible.

Not every single borderline does and says all those things. Each one is so different some have varying degrees of empathy. Soemtimes people are ass holes to someone with BPD and then if that person doesn't like them for good treason it's blamed on them being difficult. So the stigma is strong. I've got eupd and I've never punched a friend. When I see someone in pain it kills me

Loving your book Dr Das!

So grateful to discover you.👏👏👏👏👏

I think you're wrong in one thing, if I may make this point. About the expert witness who diagnosed Amber Heard of those two personality disorders. The defence had no choice BUT to get an expert witness to prove their points from a scientific perspective. And, I imagine, this was accepted by the court prior to the expert interviewing and assessing the defendant, who defamed the plaintiff, as otherwise, Amber Heard would have never accepted the medical examination. Therefore, I don't see how that can be dodgy, especially since any expert on the stand would never risk their professional reputation just to give a desired diagnosis. It doesn't behoove them to be proved wrong or misleading, as that would tarnish their entire professional reputation. So I have to disagree with you on that point.

I don't believe there is enough money to have me fake a profile of an individual. Too much invested to risk losing the license. Done properly, these forensic evaluation tools are very reliable and objective. I'd say that a treating practitioner would have a bias on the interpretation but other than at first visit a treating practitioner cannot administer or interpret these tests. But see Dr. Curry (Why do you call her Shannon Curry? You don't even do that with Dr. Todd) anyway Dr. Curry did an amazing and thorough job on the assessment, interpretation, and expert testimony.

Very helpful educational content, thank you.

Extremely cool, Dr Das. Have viewed for a year or so. Excellent. Thankyou. 🙏 x

She actually seems more typical of someone with NPD to me. I'm not a doctor, but I do know about narcissm! I also know that clinicians are hesitant to give the NPD label to women as it's still seen as something that men have and women tend to get the BPD label

So Dr Das, my questions are: If someone has BPD should we feel sympathy for them? Generally speaking, can BPD be cured - or even treated?

Mrs H ...A person I know who has BPD... I can't be around her for long periods....I've had to get the Police involve on a few occasions as she suffers with sleeplessness and struggles to be on her own...She's very needy...She's violent and causes arguments cos she seems to love being the centre of attention and drama... I helped the person I'm talking about to get help and with her getting help I learnt by her treatment and studied it so I could support her... I go on holiday just to come home to find that on top of her meds she was taking drugs and drinking alcohol ...She was hurting herself and smashing things up that I had to phone out the mental health team who sectioned her....Her childhood was horrific but as an adult she kept blaming other for things that they hadn't done...The Police got sick of her that she ended up in a Psychiatric hospital for months cos at the click of the fingers she's go from a lunatic to the nicest person in the world.... I had to move away from her eventually as her behaviour was effecting my child, myself and other family members....

you are dynamic, succinct and riveting to watch and listen to. Pure professionalism. what a pleasure.

I think it’s important to understand that people with bpd can be and often are victims of abuse themselves. I’m not downplaying the often damaging behaviour of people with bpd when they are acting out, nor am I commenting on heard/ depp. I think how it was used in this trial is cynical and stigmatising.

You should have discussed bias of doctors against BPD,it's one of the biggest issues we face with getting help,you showed your own bias when referencing psychopathic traits [like shallow affect] in BPD,which is clearly not part of the DSM criteria its just your own experience with patients. i get it,being a therapist is hard,but it's YOUR job. i'm honestly so tired of hearing therapists complain about how hard it is to work with borderliners. it's one of the few mental illness that gets such bad treatment. you should take time to reflect and understand maybe you're doing more damage then good.

my mother had borderline paranoid schizophrenia, which is well explained here, ty for this

I have BPD, am an avid #MentalHealthAwareness advocate and spoken word performer, and I love this so much. I travel the country trying to bring that awareness on stages, in classrooms, hospitals, and on my KZfaq channel, so I get excited when I see other advocates.

Unfortunately, I married my mother more than once. Being in a relationships with a BPD person is the absolute worst. They are experts at gaslighting, and tend to be drawn to people who are basically decent, only so they can annihilate them with glee once they have sucked them in. It makes the non-mentally ill partner crazy, because there is no solid ground. Sympathy should be reserved for those harmed by BPD people, and BPD people need to be held to full account. Also, thank you for calling out the appropriation of PTSD. As someone with actual PTSD, I raise this all the time with people who embrace it because of some minor, transitory, it's just life event that left them unsettled in any way. Living with PTSD, GAD, and true depression is not fun, especially when competent treatment is elusive. Those who evoke these labels because they have an emotional hangnail sicken me.

Do you think she could also have bipolar disorder.... Or more general mood disorder? I'm a psych nurse practitioner and I think a lot of adolescents with borderline overlap with severe mood disorders...

Thanks for sharing.Hope time will take my pain and heal all the trauma I’ve had.

This is random and not at all related, but do you have a podcast or would you ever consider it? I listen to podcasts at work and would love to have these same videos in podcast form to binge while working (the video portion can be distracting to me as well as having to go find the next one).

My understanding on PTSD is that the trauma had to have the potential of being life threatening. So with sexual assault or domestic violence or molestation the events weren't necessarily life threatening but they had the potential to be..and they did result in bodily harm. Of course I'm not a psychiatrist. Would love to see you do a video on the "slenderman case" one of the offenders was recently released.

Dr Dass... BPD and HPD are, according to my knowledge of the details of this trial, both very accurate. Yes - Dr Curry did testify and identify the disorders for AH for the trial, but I honestly think she must definately get treatment so that she can cope with life overall. I have very close family members with these disorders and although I am not a professional, I can definately identify and relate based on experience. Thank you - love all your videos💜💜💜

I have BPD. I’m afraid people will just assume all of those diagnosed are automatically abusive.

Hello Dr Das. Thank you for the explanation

The only thing I’m yet to see from Amber in regards to her episodes is the immense shame and guilt that comes from having splitting episodes. I was one of types who did use degrading language, very cruel at times and then used physical force to stop that person leaving in any way I could. As a result once the episode had passed I would always end up severely embarrassed/ashamed of my actions and sometimes suicidal because I had no understanding of what just happened. I knew I did it, but I didn’t understand why because my rational non BPD side knows right from wrong. As a result I was told this intense shame is part of the diagnosis? We haven’t seen or heard much about her behaviours after other than they were followed with “faking injuries” etc. That’s a part I do find confusing. That and I find it slightly strange that Dr Curry was on the side of the prosecution rather than being an objective witness. From the Perspective of someone who has borderline personality disorder, GAD and ADHD, in year 5 of recovery treatment (MBT & DBT) and who’s training to be peer support for others with borderline personality disorder who are in crisis and are receiving inpatient treatment🙏🏻

theres a hardness to her face tht comes wth fixedness +addiction to hard drugs...dont think she cn adjust to othr peopl

To be fair on Dr Shannon Curry she did say during her testimony that she was hired to evaluate if Heard had PTSD but then decided she needed to review the personality disorder as well. Whether she was looking for it is another matter entirely - after all, she did also review all the evidence whereby she would have come across the tape recording where Depp said she has a Borderline Personality Disorder.

Curry, in actuality, predicted how Herd would later behave on the witness stand, don't you think? Beautiful!

Dr Das, as an expert witness, have you had the opposition treat you much like Amber Herd's team treated Dr Curry? As in not show you the report you made or take things out of context. If so, what does it feel like to be a Dr on the stand speaking about someone's mental health with people trying to refute you? Also an interview with you and the Live Abuse Free youtube channel about this case would be awesome.

Borderline and complex ptsd are very similar and knowing amber had a traumatic childhood it could be ptsd

Getting diagnoses for my mental health and my traumatic brain injury has been super beneficial for me. After diagnosis I was able to do medication intake groups and learned therapies to help me have more emotional stability and better relationships. Learning how to have healthy boundaries just a lot of work to improve myself and my way of communicating with others. I think it’s been very helpful.

Agree whole heartedly with your break down. New subscriber.

With regard to the dodginess of diagnosis in a court case like this, Dr Curry works for Johnny Depp and is part of his legal team's presentation. She is making statements about the enemy of her camp, so she hypes up everything bad that she can about Amber Heard. Dodgy is the kindest way to describe such a situation.

I'm pretty sure I have BPD since I've never been diagnosed by a Doctor. I do have C-PTSD, Major depression(I slept my life away for nearly 2 years) , and Anxiety from being raped twice at 14 years old and being bullied ,regected, and my father abandoning me, and had childhood sexual abuse. I can see myself in Amber when I was younger at least 16 years old. I would also start fights for no reason in with my brothers and sisters.I also was severely paranoid ,still am along with uncontrolled delusional thoughts, and uncontrolled intrusive thoughts coming out of nowhere and being angry all the time .I also had other addiction I wasn't able to get to because of how a reject I was ,so I developed a over eating disorder. I was put on paxil at 18 years old but because I was doing so well my dr took me off from them. As of June I chose to be put back on it and go to therapy.Im now in my 30s and looking back I'm just ready to heal and forgive , and move on. My ex boyfriend was a drug to me which is something I admitted in therapy. It took me 10 years to admit but at the same time im very proud of myself. I guess my point is that for me I see the whole Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial has been a shedding light for me. We all have demons and it's hard to face them. I always thought it was just a publicity stunt to get attention or money but the more and more this came out with these skeletons.I realized 😳 like holy shit( I'm not alone...)

i was diagnosed bpd, but im self-aware, and my partner is kind and understanding, I try to self-reflect and understand that the issues might stem from me, being diagnosed was the greatest thing that ever happened to me, because it's allowed me to work on myself. watching AH makes me sick because I can understand the rage and emotional instability but I would never do the things she did. it makes me feel sick when I hear about the trial

My first time discovering you and you are brilliant and I want to learn more! The psyche field always fascinated me and I have a minor in psychology and wish I had gone deeper into that learning as I really didn’t see my narcissist husband coming and only figured him out like 8 years after we divorced! It certainly explained everything he did to me to be cruel and controlling, but no control could be done to him. He was a unapologetic cheater of course! But the second he saw me texting a guy, he flipped out and insulted and challenged me!