Muffafia

Wait what? There's a muffin mafia can I join?

@@caribbeannativeson78 Me too!!

Sounds like a Seinfeld episode.

When lawyers already lose, they do something called "chubacca defense" or something in court. Not lying, look it up. It is real. Yes it is called that. For a reason. Basically, when they know they stand no chance, they reach around for words in hope they can mix it up, and confuse the defendant into admitting something that's completely irrelevant

Whats even more ironic is that bringing a psychologist into this is important. Because women when actually looked at by psychologists show that women are actually the problem creator and stressor in most domestic disputes. Like, "believe all women" is such a traumatic thing to most men becausew were helpless because society treats women as children that cant be aggressors. Listen to the audio, the dr might say she has this disorder or that disorder, BUT if you ask MEN if theyve ever dealt with that, watch and be shocked that every man has a few of these horror stories...Shit, crazy women today is why I dont sleep with them for a while, guess what, they get crazy without the D, they get crazy with it smh. Check out the studies psychologists have done over the last 2 decades about how womens psychs have changed drastically just from social media. Wild shit.

What?

@@anthonyzullo What? 😅 There are literally statistics about how men are the main perpetrators in most domestic abuse cases and how so many reported cases are either dismissed or ignored so the woman never gets the help she needs. However, I don't want to dismiss your statement. So can you provide me any link or statistic proving that most women are the main aggressors in domestic disputes. Yes, woman can be aggressors, yes they can be abusers as you can clearly see in this case but that doesn't mean that every woman is just another Amber heard or that every man is another Johnny depp. There are men out here murdering women for getting rejected or not getting p*ssy from them but sure, women as a whole are the crazy ones when they don't get the D 😅

That's what narcissists do when they have to give receipts

Exactly...

she's great will look her up !

i can understand why

Well yeah she brings muffins.

The confidentiality is between the therapist and the court

She was super condescending to Curry….”you don’t know what a signed pleading is?!” 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️ several times she was downright rude and disrespectful to the good doctor. I also think it’s dirty and slimy to ask expert witnesses if they would still be there to testify if they didn’t find for whichever side they’re there for. This is literally how expert witnesses work. You can pay 15 expert witnesses, and find 1 on your side. You’re obviously going to choose that 1 to testify on your behalf. AH team did the same thing with Dr Hughes….only i believe there was loads more bias in Dr Hughes’ expert testimony. Just super hypocritical.

I don’t think that HIPAA would truly be a consideration because her association with Amber Heard was always going to be shared in court. I think they were more trying to make it seem like Currie was super excited about being involved in and desperate to continue to be involved in this case.

@@sallycinnamon5370 I hear you. I meant more, like Lynn said above, the confidentiality between Curry and the court, under which I would imagine it's still an ethical violation to gab to anyone else about who you're evaluating. And if that's not grounds for a revocation of her license, then at the very least it could've damaged her reputation as a forensic psychologist. But I think you're right too, it was also a part of them trying to prove that Shannon was eager to work on this case, on Johnny's behalf.

@@cygnelle1232 From my perspective there is 0 expectation from the court or Amber as she entered this relationship that there was any expectation of privacy. Her involvement was always going to be public record. Maybe there could the argument that she shouldn’t be discussing her findings outside of court…but that isn’t the allegation. I can see why people get confused because the professional completing this exam also has a psychiatric practise…but this wasn’t a psychiatrist-client relationship. The ethical expectations are significantly different. The expectation was that every single thing that Dr Currie heard could have been repeated on the record and in open court. I don’t think that he husband knowing that she had been retained to assess Amber would hurt her reputation as a forensic expert in the slightest. There is never an expectation that experts need to keep their involvement confidential. Now if she had gone to the media between the assembly and the trial I think maybe could have damaged her…but does anyone truly believe that her husband was surprised to see her walk onto the stand at the JD-AH trial? There was definitely a point at which she would have naturally be expected to have disclosed to her husband that she was involved in this litigation. And frankly I don’t think it would have made a difference if she had disclosed immediately whether

LOL you have to laugh at the absurdity of these lawyers questions.

They act like she's a run of the mill therapist, who someone would see once a week. That's not her job. I also think that from a bias standpoint, it would be bad for her to have him as a client because anybody has subconscious bias.

Don’t be fooled. Depp is bribing her with muffins. She’ll say anything for hot fresh muffins. Who wouldn’t?

In fact I’m sure she married her husband cuz he’d run to a bakery to get her muffins. 24 hour bakery 🧁 mmmm muffins

and the lawyer is biased to amber heard

@@lurvemia923 she's offering her bias for money

She does remind me of Umbridge, lol.

The beautiful thing is that all of Johnny’s witnesses haven’t and won’t fall into their trap 🤌🏻

They're not kids lmao, and it's not better call Saul that the witness is gonna lose their minds and go off the rail.

And if not more it to discredit the witness as a reliable source of information.

Except the case is about defamation about the article amber did and they have yet to prove it.

@@JBurnz001 i don't think the JD nessesarily wants to win the case, JD just want to show the world that Amber is a monster.

This reminds me of the makeup stuff too when she interrogated the chad driver 🤣 They need to bring in the makeup Scamber Turd had probably used to cover her allegedly bruised face!

@@MollyHJohns On top of that the makeup pallet they claimed she used to cover up didn't even exist until the end of 2017, the brand themselves (Milani) showed the lie!

They should also bring a poop from a tiny Yorkie and a human poop to compare sizes to determine who popped on Johnny's bed.

The muffin has to know something...

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Fair point tbh. With better info I think they could have done something. But with AH only ever lying, it didn’t rlly work 😪 most lawyers are this way but just actually have a case

@@joalexander8775 Exactly! I do think Rottenborn is a special one though lol

liars usually dont have much info to go on which has actual proof. its hearsay backed by emotional and visual faffing. thats why courts ask for physical proof and gone are the days that only oral testimonies were considered as proof. people are stupid.

@@derrickwilliams1210 what,s in a name right????

Also, with her diagnosis as someone with HPD and personally having known someone with HPD - her lawyers could have gotten sucked up into her world where she's wonderful and always the victim. When evidence is presented contradictory to that, it is rattling because you so believed them. It's a mindf**k. With the testimonies and recordings I was already thinking she had that and so when the forensic psychologist diagnosed her I was not surprised.

Is that a thing in India?

@@guycliche1416 yeah Forensic Psychologists have a high demand here

@@baisakhidasgupta8921 Well, I'm glad it's a requested profession in some countries. When I studied Psychology, one University had a M.Sc in Italy has Forensic Science and barely anyone who graduated actually got a job with the area, and most had to redirect toward other Clinical Psychology.

Capitalize a job title or position when the title precedes a name, but not when the title is used alone or after a name.

All the best from a future Industrial and Organisational Psychologist.

And even if Dr. Curry is a fan of JD, that doesn't mean she's automatically on his side.

I never heard of heard until this case. She was a nobody and now she's only known because of the evil she did to Johnny

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Yes I love butter "in" my toast 👨‍🍳

Always

Sorry to destroy your appetite. Everytime I hear about Amber Heard, I am reminded by that "thing" on that bed. 😅

Life isn't fair.

I'm surprised you ain't enjoying that Grindelwald is sued.

Oh yes, they really should

Got a link ?

Other psycoligist said her scores were all in the average range she had nothing over 65. Why did the Dr. Use the old test. I think she was biased, this is the first time she's testified and she lied under oath the first 3 minutes of the cross examination.

Yes. She’s still a court appointed lawyer

Well said.

You have to live how Amber heards legal team tried to show Dr curry was biased, but then brought in their own expert that NEVER even bothered to meet with Johnny depp.

@@JaneMcQ100 psychologist not lawyer

That and even hardcore PTSD proven cases don't have ninteen of the twenty symptoms.

and she also said having most of the symptoms isn't even possible or something like that.. obvious lie, then. She should've done her research before lying. Picking almost everything just shows how little she knows about the issue

19/20 symptoms? IF that were true, she'd probably on the top of the suicide watch list or some other list.

Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

they need to press charges for lying about a mental illness..of course she lies..

Or how about just intelligent and strong if you're not generically beautiful? That should be enough. Women don't owe 'pretty'. And assumptions shouldn't be made that beautiful women aren't strong and intelligent too, it shouldn't be a shock if they are.

@@beckyr2056 you forgot the fact that beauty can also be achieved, not just from genes

100%

Exactly! I sent this testimony to my daughter who is graduating with her Masters in Psychology next month. It’s the first thing I thought!

@@hanhuyenhaven but not all beautifull women have enough good brain to function inside them as beatifull as their outside beauty. I cant blame them because men made most beautifull women become desperate to left their brain.

I m so THANKFUL Dr. Curry got out of that one with ease and logic....an amazing psychologist would have been ruined by a bunch of loser lawyers otherwise... I just want the jury to proclaim JD as winner so I never have to see the faces of those losers again..

Your summary is awesome

She is not a psychiatrist she's a pscologist. Big difference, she's not board certified or a PhD. She had bias cimplaints

And she was not married so no husband bought the muffins her boyfriend was married to someone else. She married ty in April of 21

@@lindasmith1105 It's complaints not cimplaints. And, BTW who cares about that A.H. Attorney's are not helping her at all in this case. They are just as pitiful as her. If she seriously believes that the world is seeing her as this poor abused woman she needs a reality check. Her lies are catching up to her slowly but surely. Will see how well she does when she takes the stand.

Sorry I'm legally blind. I think JD should have chosen a different women. You Miss spelled words too.

Emediately is the first must spelled words it's immediately.

I hate when people use this (they won't get me, so jokes on them) but seeing it here is hilarious

I thought she nodded her head she meant: 'You think I am stupid right? Yes, I am stupid, I am an idiot lawyer and we are going to lose'

I used to think things like these only happened in movies 😂

@@nileshghadge5016 it's actually more infuriating irl than in movies..

No idea what this "lawyer" was thinking. If asking a witness what they thought someone else would decide do in a purely hypothetical situation isn't speculation, then what the hell *does* qualify as speculation?

Johnny's lawyers were slow on the objection though

@@melissasllew2527 they prolly were shocked

That's how they work. They want to stump you.

Or a question is evil like, "Have you stopped beating your wife." Either a Yes or No answer puts you in trouble of admittedly hitting the wife.

@Srushti Oza I think it’s called the Law & Crime Network

I also noticed that too.

Can I get any specific link?

She came across much better than Heard's female psychologist. She had a strong anti male bias. Not so good when mostly men were in the jury.

NGL I think the judge is allowing it cos she knows its easier otherwise they gonna be in court forever with all this foolishness!

Something about ambers whole side her team testimony everything does NOT sit well with me. As a fan of Johnny I tried to come into this with an open mind and thought if anything they were equals in the abuse. BUT.... Why would she hire such HORRIBLE unorganized and incompetent lawyers to defend her in what would seem to be one of the biggest and most important moments of her life, being this case is going to define what she is portrayed as when she seems to be care so much almost solely on her reputation. And also why would she not be just have such a bad defense but also her one witness was sus AF and her testimony is all over the place, you can't understand shit she's talking about half the time, and what you can understand seems to be so outrageous and such huge significant and serious accusations that you would think and expect her to have the best of the best. Hell even if she had to have help from rocketman to pay them. Now call it a conspiracy it whatever you will, but in my opinion. She knew she was fucked from the start, that she just decided she was gonna use it at a pr stunt and go out with a bang, making it as crazy as she could not bothering to want to pay for good defense because even with the best she knew it was a lost cause. Like literally seems to be making it up as she goes. OR and this is more fantasy than anything maybe she felt bad to where she decided to lose on purpose? Idk. But something has been just itching at me in a bad way about her whole side and every move they have made. Like this is huge. And she doesn't seem to be taking it seriously to make sure she can lock in that win. She only had to prove there was any indication of any form of abuse and she would have had it. Okay and this one just came to me... I wonder if they were banking on getting the case thrown out to where they literally had ZERO preparation...like her defense was so confident on it? Idfk. It's just weeeiiiirrrdddd

@@wtfrenchtoast4896 they definitely thought they had it in the bag and could get the case dismissed. I mean they literally did make that request which the judge denied. They probably thought they didn’t have to prepare because of the #metoo movement and how we should just trust the word of a battered woman.

@@wtfrenchtoast4896 Amber didn't think it was a lost cause or she would lose. Her outrageous behavior and stories are a result of her personality disorder. Her lawyers had nothing to work with so their strategy was to attack Depp and his witnesses' credibility. Heard lying to her lawyers didn't help her. Elaine took Amber's word that Dr. Curry told Amber her husband bought the Muffins for her, therefore she must have told him she was hired by Depp and would be meeting with Amber. In fact, all he knew was she would be meeting with someone and his wife didn't have time to get the muffins she likes herself. It's grasping at straws, like Elaine stating that Dr. Curry knew Depp then asking if she thought he was a good actor, trying to imply that they personally knew each other, as well as portraying her interview with Depp's lawyers as her partying with Depp. I suspect Amber was telling her legal team how she wanted them to form their strategy and personally chose her witnesses based on her perception of what would be good, regardless of what her legal team thought. She wasn't looking to hire the best expert witnesses, just ones that would say everything she wanted them to say... that she suffers ptsd and Intimate Partner Violence, even if they are not knowledgeable or competent. There probably weren't that many to choose from willing to do that for her. Maybe her personal therapist was the only one willing, either bc he believes the stories she tells him or bc he wants to continue getting paid for therapy in addition to his court testimony. I'm sure her legal team was frustrated with her changing her story and misrepresenting info to her lawyers. She paid alot of money for her defense but they lacked good evidence to support her claims and there were too many holes in her story and inconsistency with her emotional state. Amber's personality disorder is why she made crazy claims. She knows she will look bad for throwing bottles at him and cutting his finger off so she doesn't only deny it, she concocts a story where she suffered something much worse and terrible. Thats a result of her personality disorder where she believes she is always the victim being wronged so inverts reality and wants others to sympathize with her and feels the need to "one up" the person she perceives as attacking her or threatening her reputation or credibility. In her mind simply denying she did it wasn't enough. She had to sell a version of events where Depp did something to her even more horrible then cutting someones finger off in rage. It's her being vindictive and it's justified in her mind. If Depp says something that makes her look bad, she feels the need to say he did something even worse to her. She is too selfish and lacking in self awareness to understand how she appears to others and surrounds herself with "yes men" or "yes women" like her sister to the point she thinks calling Depp's witnesses "randos" is a funny punchline others will laugh at. She is so narcissistic and full of herself she thinks her fake crocodile tears will convince the jury and was probably sure once she testified Depp would lose. She gives terrible and unbelievable explanations when caught in a lie bc she thinks the jury is stupid. She really thought she could continue to pretend to not know the difference between pledging and donating and not look deceptive. People like her like to redefine words and play semantic word games to avoid being caught in a lie. She did this in her deposition when they played a tape of her admitting to hitting Depp. She says when she said hit in that recording she was referring to pushing him to prevent him from getting through the doorway she was blocking and that Depp uses words like "hit" and "cold cock" to describe a push bc he is just dramatic like that. She even denies kicking the bathroom door into his head after audio recording is played where she admits to it and says "I defended myself in that audio and you can hear it for yourself". She admits to hitting him in the audio but claims she didn't when questioned about it. She wants you to believe that how she describes blocking a doorway and other people are dumb enough to buy it. Her own testimony sank her, not her lawyers.

Yes, but the lawyer was basically saying.....if her diagnosis was good for heard and bad for Depp...she would not be in court at all......which is stating the obvious, as depps team are not going to bring up someone who will harm their case, but the lawyer just wanted to devalue the psychologists findings...actually quite a good move by heards lawyer

@@Michael020 yes, but again she tried to tell before interrupted, that regardless that who hired her, she will tell how it is, regardless whom is it favorable or not, by contract.. so the bias is out of the window...

@@mrdot1126 yes I know she would tell it how it is....but the lawyer meant that if the psychologist found that Amber heard is a nice person etc...depps team would NOT bring that psychologist to court......it's Depps legal team who brought the psychologist into court...nobody else

@@Michael020 Hence why objection came to place. As the psychoanalyst already stated her role, the fact that she was indeed hired by the Deop team is an open fact. Speculating on whether she would testify based on result is a waste of time, even if the lawyer tried to tie in on bias. The jury knows who hired her. Pointing that out is a waste of time, hence why it wasn't a smart move, contrary to your opinion. And the judge agreed.

@@demoneyeslaharl The lawyer is just stating the obvious to try and dent the doctors value in this case, by saying she's only there, because depps team liked her evaluation of heard, and so brought her to court...she's also trying to suggest that depp his team and this doctor are all mates....heards lawyers have very little to go on Ok fine, not a smart move, an obvious one...my mistake Cheerio, I'm going for a muffin

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everywhere i go........ i see you

@@lord23_80 omg yess 😂😂

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Always a mug's game. {:-:-:}

Thank you.i was about to write this

Or he's swamped because everyone wants in on muffingate. I feel sorry for Gingi, poor gingerbread dude is probably terrified he'll be questioned about the flavor and texture of his gumdrop buttons.

@@denisemetzger305 Not the gum drop buttons!!

These lawyers can't do anything because they don't have anything to work with so they try to twist everything or make the testimonies look bad. Its like given a soldier a knife against a tank

The lawyers were trying to impugn the Psychologists credibility by implying that she behaved unethically and broke confidentiality by telling her husband about Amber (which never happened).

Thank goodness for a switched on psyc she made mincemeat of the lawyer. Makes me wonder if AH said the pysc must have told her husband 🤔? ??

You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to graduate law school

Tries and fails...

Also the police officer too. She worded her last words as if she wasn't just threatening him of not doing his job as an officer.

Tactics but good point

@@zeeshanliaqatkhan Guess I'm not "up to date" on the local linguistic styles; what does "uv bc" mean?

Also typo? Do you mean “biased”? I see a lot of people not quite understanding how that word works. But either way, I completely agree and sorry for correcting you.

stupid people often think they are the smartest people in the room. theres a reason why the smartest in the room dont go around telling people they are the smartest. as is pretty evident from what's transpiring here.

shes opening doors for her own destruction

that alone could have tanked her case. bad advice from lawyers

Pained is an incorrect usage of a word. No such thing as “pained” I think it’s an Indian think to say ? “It caused me some real hurt” is more correct.

@@snak3eye547 Idk, I've read 'pained' in quite a few novels by American authors.

@@mansisharma8562I’m sure there’s exceptions. Or it’s used in phrases like “he’s in a lot of pain”

#justiceforJohnnyDepp

Objection…this is speculation

This woman Dr. Curry is WAAAAAAAYYYYY more competent than 99% of psychologists when it comes to Cluster B personality disordered individuals. She diagnosed Amber Heard as co-morbid with BPD and HPD, both Cluster B Personality Disorders, and they explain Ms. Heard's behavior perfectly. I was guessing she was a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but I'll go with the doc's diagnosis 100%. Note that the Cluster B Disorders are like peas in a pod, very close to each other. A lot of their behaviors and strategies are in common, but their underlying motivation for engaging in the behavior can be a little different. For example, BPDs greatest fear is abandonment by their close people. NPDs greatest need is to appear to the world to be "without flaw", and they hate having any imperfection exposed, even small ones.

@@jdaniels1313 100%

They can't do that it would just verify Dr Curry's finding AH"s team is the strongest witness for Johnny's case.

They already are