went to GPUopen to check things about Reactive masks.... from what i saw, FSR can into translucent elements, but that has to use those masks, which are added to UE plugin, but not to normal pipeline, anything that has not movement vectors but animations should be redirected through that pipe to make translucent and animated elements better soooo.... modder is just someone who reads lots of documentation and devs did basic implementation nice post #4 about FSR 2.1/2.2 from October 19, 2022, has some comparisons even with AMD adding it themselves

So FSR 3.1 can be pretty impressive but it's a shame modders once again do a better job than developer...

SO EXCITED TO SEE FSR 3.1 MODS IN CYBERPUNK AND STARFIELD

I think some people here are confused judging by the comments. The problem isn't AMD's development of FSR (at least not in this case), it's the developers of games not implementing a feature correctly. The fact a modder can do better shows this. The modder gets the same files, packages, dlls and documentation developers get (because open source), so working with the same thing does better. It's not like the modder has access to change Adrenalin Drivers or the hardware layer itself. How is that AMD's fault? Now if you want to talk about why AMD hasn't integrated Machine Learning (ML) algorhythms? That's a different story. While AI gets put about a lot as a buzz word, all these 'AI' things current available or in development are just different types of ML, and it's not 'brand' new, AMD should have invested in developing effective ML 'cores' for their GPU's as early as 6000 series although more realistically 7000 series. Recent rumors say the reason 8000 series will have no highend is because RDNA 5 will be a full rewrite, if that is true, it could be a way of including ML into the architecture, but is another case of AMD follow from a couple steps behind. It's become a bit of a meme but Radeon really does need a Ryzen moment. But again, what they have done with FSR without ML is very very impressive, when you think about how many cards can run it, even Nvidia's older customers (whom they wish would by a card every generation by locking software features to older models). If the developers would actually use it to it's full potential, while not reaching DLSS levels would be a truer showing. If you have nothing else good to say about AMD's open source policy at least look at how it allows others to fix lazy people's faults for the benefit of the majority.

What do you think about these images? I'll be testing the mods myself (as usual) within a few days, just wanted to keep you guys informed!

Once again this shows why gaming industry is in such a bad state when one guy does a better job than whole teams of devs that know everything about the game

And this is why i love pc. Modders will come in and make things better for everyone

This man is the AMD messiah. I think AMD is using AI, but in small quantities; they're using mixed precision FP16 inference for the motion vector and normal FP16 for the others.

You're the only one doing comparison between official implementation vs mod, Hub, DF and any other big techtubers not gonna bother doing this and just made their conclusions based on the flawed official game devs implementation.

Its great that fsr can be better, but it sucks that developers are dropping the ball on proper implementation. When people say fsr is bad, it makes me think what game did they tried it on where the developers didn't do much of anything to try to make it look good or the best that it could possibly be. Thanks for updating us on this.

The FSR 3.1 source code is now oficially available for everyone to experiment with, so with time mods will start to slowly implement it and eventually it'll always be better than the game as developers have to update their game once more and I'm sure that takes time. If it is just a single .dll file it'll be great, (like XeSS does - many games still stuck in 1.1 and you can download and update to 1.3)

Pretty cool and we all get to use them.

When mods do it better than actual developers... *facepalm* The incompetence... Common!

So glad you did this video Fabio because I've been using FSR 3 mods and was wondering what the difference was between official FSR 3 and the moded version and now I know 👍👍👍

It’s worrying when modders can do a better job with the software than its own creators 🙄

eu só tenho cyberpunk e nossa, a diferença é absurda, só você que teve uma reação positiva a respeito do fsr 3.1, eu msm não vi esse ghost e a qualidade melhorou absurdamente principalmente na clareza e no shimmering. o melhor dessa atualização foi a facilidade de poder atualizar o fsr 3.1. Parabéns pelo vídeo Fábio você traz um conteúdo único na comunidade!

Good then that means AMD can improve it further without to much effort.

Good Luck with your new house and stuff, mate! ✌

So blatantly obvious this is a dev issue. Imagine you were given an F1 engine but only 20% of it's potential is used. I doubt the devs were not given complete documentation on how to implement it. Incompetent or malice?

not surprised since it's open source and everyone can experiment with it so of course mods gonna be better i can't blame AMD for that

LukeFZ is making 8 grand a month with modding FSR. It's insane that he hasn't been hired by AMD

This is impressive, dude

3:50 you could say that the left side lost all high-frequency detail. or just fine detail if you want to be less technical

IT HAPPENED AGAIN!!!

all they have to do is reward people who do good work and when the opportunity arises hire them. 1000-5000$ is not a lot for a corporation like amd and they would gain a lot of favor with the community and their products would improve

Man those discord notification sounds through the video kept baiting me lol

nice video my friend!!always great to see you !!have wonderful time

It's mind blowing. Nice sharpness kept by lukefz

This is the advantage of open source.

Shows how much better FSR could look, but doesn't because the implementations are rushed...

I also read the FSR developer guidelines presentation from GPUOpen. I believe the "reactive" masks section off parts of the image that are transparent. FSR uses this information to avoid types of processing that will ruin these kinda of objects. Something like improved trade-offs between blurring, motion interpolation, dis-occlusion handling, and ghosting. And I think it helps FSR understand what the boundary between these transparent things and opaque things is, so FSR won't try to blend them together or confuse them for the same object, and make better sense of separating backgrounds vs foregrounds, something like that. But they say they added the masking concept, because FSR really kinda breaks without it. And then I see the Nixxes ports and I think to myself... "This is exactly what AMD said in their developer guidelines would go wrong if you didn't use the reactive masking properly!" Tons of ghosting and wrong handling of things like the confetti in Ratchet and Clank, especially. The fact FSR 3.1 looks so much better in some games compared to Ratchet and Clank shows it needs certain things from its implementation to work well. (I write a bit of code sometimes myself -- I have sympathy for the developers who are scratching their heads how to program in the masking code to later hand to their FSR implementation. So much easier to just not do it, I'd bet! Really something you ideally want to know you need from the beginning when your graphics engineers are planning the tech stack, not at the last minute for an already finished game and finished graphics pipeline, I'm guessing. But I'm only a hobbyist. I don't know game dev that much, either, to be honest.) It's kind of funny to see from your video that you can use the masking with FSR 2.1 as well. I didn't see that coming.

So, has LukeFZ updated his mod using the released FSR 3.1 source code for his mod, or is it "FSR 3.1" by name only?

Interesting video, thanks! Can't wait for your 3.1 mod testing! I am wondering: with the still images the difference is tremendous, but when playing a game with lots of motion, how much of the difference would you notice?

Yes its unfortunate this is the case for the most part as if the official dev implementations are just copy pasted, didn't read the manual, and added it a day before the deadline instead of internally testing them for months after being made available to devs while modders make them better after made available in GPUOpen. The most recent one I've seen with a really bad FSR3.0 implementation is from The First Descendant where its straight up terrible and Frame Gen doesn't work as intended while Intel XeSS 1.3 works better but has issues on its own like shimmering.

It’s possible that FSR mods are using a higher sharpening setting in the programming then the default integrated FSR that’s why the mods have a ‘sharper’ image with more details 🙂‍↕🧐. Either way, FSR, like DLSS is still evolving and it took DLSS over 5years to get to a good stage of quality upscaling 💪😇👍. I prefer DLSS over FSR … that’s me … but FSR is now starting to get my attention🤩😏

If fsr is already as good as it is. It wish ai acceleration would most likely out right beat dlss

I must be blind but i don't see more details or overall better quality. The mod has more sharpness but also a lot of sharpness errors. You switch from soft and blurry picture to a slightly oversharpend picture. Which one is better is more a personal preference thing. Differences in moving pictures would be way more interesting.

Does the terrible looking water seem better? I rather use XeSS than FSR 3.1

We need the rx 6800 video !

Can't wait to see FSR 3.1 implemented into Lossless Scaling.

That's amazing, I proved it in Ghost of Tsushima and the Golden Temple stuttered a lot, now it's so smooth the game changed completely 80 FPS seems like 144 FPS really love your content!!

Thank you! ❤

That's the beauty of open source isn't it :).

I have a theory on ghosting. FSR *needs* motion vectors as badly as DLSS does. I bet the in-engine code sends more motion vectors to DLSS interfaces than it does native FSR, so the FSR tapping the DLSS DLL interface is getting more motion vectors. I won't go so far as to call those devs lazy. It might be a performance tweak or QA issue. It took CDPR for example, years to sort out CP77 motion vectors on DLSS alone (and that engine still omits a lot of objects from them)

God bless the modding community 🙏❤️

Fabio, I believe you need to make another video or include this clarification in the video that you are going to test for this mod. *Many people think it is AMD issue, while some people said otherwise*

The only explanation that come to my mind is this is done deliberately.

Thats why it was a good idea to release the source codes by amd. Theres lots of smart people in the world who shouldn't be underestimated. Good thing is some of them are free

I have a question.... What is going on with FSR on older games? Example: World of Warcraft.... It used to be a major performance gain enabling FSR while also granting a quality increase. Now when I enable it I lose about 30-40 FPS. Same thing with Final Fantasy XIV, with the Dawntrail launch enabling FSR I lose major frames (20-30). Is anyone else experiencing this? I have asked around in several locations like official game forums and Reddit.... not getting much of a response. Did something change? I have a 6600xt. PS: I love your videos. I am so thankful for all the help you have shared with me over the years. My switch from nvidia/intel combos (for almost 15 years) to a full AMD setup, was so much less stressful thanks to your tweaks and discussion videos. Your accent is the cherry on top.

FSR 3.1 with afmf are very good. I test on 7 days to die and was nice.

At this point they should just hire this guy

Lazy ass devs out here trying to make FSR look like poopie. I really don't get why people give money to these uncaring, unpassionate AAA studios when they clearly (CLEARLY) dont give a shit about the end user.

Can someone explain how LukeFZ works? Can i use the Mod in all games, or just in games that already have FSR and DLSS?

Is it possible the official developers are told to make it less good so that later updates can appear good?

Those are still images, the relevant thing is to see the game in motion. In general, FSR usually uses over sharpening that highlights the shimering. What I have seen in the latest FSR3.1 games is that they have a finish similar to DLSS, somewhat less defined I suspect that what they have done with the mod is to set the sharpening high again

I don't know if it's like an inside joke but the character's name is Aloy (pronounced A-loi), not Alloy xD

Is it paid mod?

Were you able to test any of these? I cant get these mods to work. I tried the LukeFZ one and also the Optiscaler one

do you ever plan on making a channel in portuguese fabio??

I was talking to a mod dev and I made an adaptation before their official update for the BRAZILIAN community to use, how can I send this mod adaptation with fsr 3.1 already available? This mod is free and is available on the Nexus without FSR 3.1 because I made it and it works. How can I send you this beta adaptation, let's say, before launch?

How is the fps between the official 3.1 and Luke mod? Is there a drop in the mod since there’s more detail?

when the FSR 2.1(FSR3.1 Reactive Mashs) mod will become available,

Nice ❤❤❤❤

@Ancient Gameplays Hey Fabio, are there any penalties with reactive mask ? fps reduction of the upscaler percentage wise for example or some other stuff ?

Please bring this mod when it becomes available for use in FSR 2.1 (FSR3.1 Reactive Mashs will become available

what about the perfomance, is the same?

They clearly dont show the same level of care with fsr as dlss. An advantage of going with an nvidia card. Come on how can a modded version do better.

Ah, yes, free and open source labor. Oldest trick in the book.

I get that FSR might be superior, but I got so used to the "press one button" lossless scaling that I am not going back, even if it might have more issues.

can you link to the stuff you used in the video, i've watched a couple of your videos and you did not link the stuff you tested in the video description

Sadly it Takes forever to implement it natively, looks like devs are financially by Nvidia to postpone it at max, makes no sense, it’s barely change and tweaks a bunch of files to make it happen, fortunately we have the modder community WHATSOEVER Fabio!

Which mod you used for FSR3.1 where can we find the mod? Can we use this mod on any game? I want to use the mod in Quantum break.

How do you get these mods

Why don't they hire the modders?

Can you compare FSR 3 mod vs Xess? Those seem to be the best upscalers for AMD, if Xess is equal or even better them FSR mod the hasle of installing it will only be worth it of the game dosen't have frame generation already

Not sure that the LukeFZ FSR 3.1 mod being better is surprising. AMD have opensourced the FSR code for ages. AMD also have a history of allowing people to use their hardware as they want (this is the very reason for AMD's GPUOpen website). This means people like LukeFZ can spend time tweaking things till they get results they like. I have seen this with the Star Citizen TSR upscaler based on FSR 2.2. CIG's rework or fine tuning of FSR in TSR is far better in image stability than the base FSR, but it is still FSR under the hood. So what this shows is not an AMD is bad message like people who like to say FSR is worse than DLSS love saying, but that AMD have left developers with a lot of legroom to play with the get the best image quality they can from FSR. However, not all developers have studied AMD's documentation to implement FSR to its best potential.

i have on question for Radeon Super Resolution, when you enable it, the higher the sharpen effect is the more fps you get or the lower the more fps?

Modded FSR 3.1 vs DLSS, which do you think is better? I personally still think DLSS is better since in most games I can’t even distinguish between native and DLSS.

congrats to modders, devs once algain refuse to do their work

I've been running HFW on a 7900 XTX at 4 K max settings using FSR 3.1 quality and with Frame Generation and honestly it has been the best game play experience I ever had (120 FPS locked, smooth 100% of the time, and everything also looking very crisp with no major issues during actual gaming). So it seems like there is some special sauce in the mod space that is above and beyond the generic FSR implementation (which makes sense since it is open source) that may require some additional tweaking on a game by game basis whereas FSR by Radeon is a more generalized solution. And since it is a moving target, maybe this type of enhancement is already being tested for something like 3.2...

Where do you even get the FSR 3.1? I cant find the mods at all.

Hi Fabio is fsr 2.1 (3.1 r.m) better than native?

Hi, This is amazing, can we support Luke somehow?

Now FPS can really be downloaded

It's because they make the devs implement it, if they had a department dedicated to adding it into games they would probably be better than nvidia with this stuff.

C´mon AMD ... hire this modguy already

AMD should hire this man.

If I only buy the lukeFZ subscription once, will I still receive updates? or only if I keep the payment (using google translate)

Hi Fabio

what about frame generation though?

so i have to install fsr3.1 in ghost of tsushima to have better quality?

as always mod is better but the thing about more details in mod i think may be amd developers lowered the details so it do not do pixelation and flicking issues on building corners and straight pies but we can only find that out in new 3.1 mods

I only have one question: is this FSR3 mod available for the AMD gpus ?😂

Where can I find these mods that are used in the video?

We used the recommended implementation and it just caused lots of fatals. We rolled back and no fatals. Trash until stabilized

Any news?

I feel bad for people who never explored mods and always relying on out-of-the-box or vanilla experience. If only they know official FSR implementation in games usually bad, they would mind-blown looking what the mods can do. What a dirty trick that developers did. Could be the strong partnership with competitors or something. But in online games it would get rekt because of unnecessary anticheat will forbid any kind of mods including FSR or manually updated DLSS and that sucked. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Could the mod Community work on fsr3.1 and make it better? So we can just swap the dll file?

Do we get access to the mod or?

AMD need to just implement AI in FSR for their GPUs, then use a fallback layer like XeSS for other GPUs. The fact that FSR is now even behind XeSS is just sad. Their obsession with settling FSR solely "for everyone" might be the thing holding them back. Been team Red for a couple of generations because of budget, but I'm seriously thinking of jumping the ship to enjoy ray tracing fully after experiencing something like CP2077.