its an awful price. Its a relabelled 7700XT or maybe not even an XT tbh. it's going to be slower than the 6800XT, it's apparent predecessor. why do you think they were comparing it to 2 generation old cards on stage? Because they were actually releasing the 7600XT and 7700 non xt.

Should I return my 6950xt for a 7800xt?

​@@Giliverwait for review benchmarks.

@@Giliver ALWAYS wait for proper benchmarks and reviews.

That would the base price I think. Those brands that have the "super gaming x oc extreme" grading to the card will be more expensive than the msrp.

Went from a 3070 to a 7900xt and never looked back, it's so good

I'm in a similar boat. Only I went from a 2070FE to a 7900XT. It was my first "real" AMD GPU since my last "AMD" one was really an ATI GPU and I'd been on Team Green since. I had "extra" money and really wanted to go for a halo tier card for the first time in my life, but I could not justify a GPU with a comma in the price tag. That said, I have had absolutely ZERO regrets with the 7900XT.

Got my first computer in '92 and it was mid range and cost around $2500. For the same money today, you could get something literally hundreds of times more powerful. Imagine if you could buy a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk or a car or a house that was hundreds of times better than what was available thirty years ago for the same price.

That is awesome. I was running a 1070 Ti right up until April this year when I saw a Radeon 6750 XT at a very good price, so I jumped on it. This is the first brand new Radeon card that I had bought since my 9800 Pro almost 20 years ago. I am very happy with it, along with the semi-frequent driver updates. I just became disillusioned with Nvidia in recent years with their pricing and specs. I'm not at all sorry to have dumped them. I plan to run this 6750 XT in my gaming rig probably until the fall of 2026, by then a whole new system will be in order.

​@@user-pl5sq1pd9n We do expect technology first conceived within current living memory to improve slightly faster than a product that predates written language, yes.

You might still want to wait for the 8000 and cards if FSR 3 can 1.5x your frames on the 5700 stick with that l, obviously that depends on your monitor if your at 1080p don't bother getting a new card your gonna want to invest in a new monitor first.

@@321backlip 8000 series isn't coming until 2025, and 8000 series will only be having low and mid range cards

In all honesty I still feel that it is a little too high. At least it's not insulting. And when I say it's a little too high I mean, that it is a hard sell for me but not an impossible one, I'm actually thinking about it... The 7700 though, that absolutely needs to go down in price, and quite a bit actually... I'm with you on this, in so much that this is actually made me think that maybe I can buy this generation, having said that I would like it to be just a tad lower... This 7800 XT is the first current generation card that I have actually considered for just playing games

The 4070 FE is just £570 (it's usually the same in dollars) and has 200w power consumption while the 7800xt runs at 263w which means that even though the 7800xt is cheaper up front, it'll cost you more long term and as energy prices are predicted to remain high until 2030 in Europe, it means the 4070 is still a solid choice for costs and it can run DLSS 3 which if on could out perform the 7800xt... I'll be waiting for the 3rd party bench tests on these cards and see how it truly stacks up but if the 7800xt does out perform the 4070 even with DLSS 3 on then it's a great option but if not, the 4070 might actually be the better choice here.

@@crackajacka87 Your forgetting the fact for pure rasterisation AMD beats Nvidia price to performance, most people don't care for ray tracing.

I'm finally upgrading my RX560 4GB to something more modern, and I'm gunning for the RX 6650XT. Any thoughts?

If what ive heard is correct the 7800xt is actually going to be worse that the 6800xt.

​@@ElsK81ive been trying to find info on it everywhere. Where did you find that?

I think I might do the 7800 xt for my lan pc. I do a lot of house sitting for my friends and do not want bring my giant pc over again. 😂

Yep, I'm in that camp you described at the end. Made me almost give up this generation and just get a 7600 or the cheapest 6600/6650/6700 I can find. But now I'm itching to see if I can save up some more and get a 7800XT instead. I don't like feature exclusivity, unless it's hardware deprecation related, but HYPR-RX and/or fluid motion frames at a driver level for older games made me excited that I'd actually have stuff to test out my 240Hz 1440p monitor on.

My Sapphire 7900xtx is an absolute giga-chad, LOVE it. Im so glad AMD is coming out swinging this generation. Ive had enough of Nvidia's crap to last a lifetime.

I have the 7900XT and I do Have to say, in terms of performance it REALLY slaps but any sort of significant overclocking or undercoating causes some _insane_ instability. Oh and I bluescreened once already (with no overclock) so idk what to think about that

who said the blue screen was cause by you gpu? blue screen can be basically any component.@@KryptoKn8

At the time I bought my mercs 310 7900xtx, it was $250 cheaper than the 4080. I have zero regrets. It's tearing games up at native 4k/60 while dating cool at 65° under full workload.

@KryptoKn8 it took a good amount of time to undervolt/overclock my card and have it stable in more then 1 title.

The RTX 4070 released at pretty much exactly the CAD equivalent to the US MSRP, so I think the RX 7800 XT will as well. Sadly, pricing for RX 6000 series cards is a bit higher in Canada than in the US, though they still generally have been offering better value than RTX cards have been. I would expect some models of the 7800 XT to be 680 or 690 CAD, 700 at the most for the cheapest models, but it might be worth paying a little extra for a higher quality cooler (Sapphire Pulse and Powercolor Red Dragon are likely to offer good quality for the price, and probably other models will too). The RTX 4070 typically goes for 810 CAD or more. The RTX 4070 definitely isn't terrible, but I think it's tough to argue that you should pay more for the Nvidia features, when it comes with significantly less Vram. The 7800 XT might eventually have improved upscaling implemented for it, and the ray tracing advantage doesn't show up in every game. The basic level of lumen in particular is extremely efficient in terms of the image quality you get relative to the performance cost, and it already works just as well on RX 6000 series cards as it does on Nvidia equivalents. In situations where Nvidia GPUs have the biggest ray tracing advantage over AMD cards, their performance is still getting absolutely hammered, and the fact that ray tracing uses more Vram is likely to be a big problem for a lot of Nvidia cards as well. The RTX 4090 can still absolutely destroy anything from AMD in moderate to heavy ray-tracing workloads, and still get worthwhile FPS, and the 4080 sometimes can as well, but those are insanely expensive cards.

Wait the black screen issue is still a thing? I remember that being an issue waay back with the r9 cards also.

Yeah dual screen and power draw bugs are fixed with current adrenalin patch

​@@OneDollaBillthey were never fixed properly. Just cuz the mainstream techtubers don't report on it doesn't mean it isn't still happening.

@@OneDollaBill still exists, it's somehow related to hardware acceleration on browsers/discord on secondary screens

@@OneDollaBillit’s only an issue if you don’t do the fix. If you disable MPO, you will have zero issues with that

Yeh the 7800xt is the standout card of the generation if the performance figures are even somewhat close to accurate. The price, the Vram, the efficiency improvement (relative to the 6800xt), the Ray Tracing improvement (relative to the 6800xt), and the Free Starfield, make it potentially the Value King.

I agree, if the 7700 was at 399 that world have sold tons I think, compared to a 4060/ti.

From what I understand the Navi 32 chips have such a good yields, that AMD doesn't want to sell 7700xt's. They want to sell mostly 7800xt's, because of the good yields they don't need to make that many cut down chips. So they are intentionally pricing the 7700xt badly so you would buy the 7800xt. Same tactic as movie theaters do with medium and large popcorns.

@@Liinuli. Considering they waited so long for stock to accumulate, it doesn't surprise me at all. If the 78 is behind a 7900GRE in terms of performance, than the GPU will sometimes win/loss in comparisons.. but the the limited RT performance + being late to the DLSS 3 party explains why it is priced so attractively.

I'll be considering AMD after over 2 decades. Lol, so I feel you on this one.

I might be able to upgrade from an rx 480 soon if prices drop again next gen

upgraded from 3070 to a 7900xtx and it's been awesome- only thing i miss is geforce experience had a good game clipping setup. turn it on- press hotkey to record the last x number of minutes. AMD it records non stop making a video and a hotkey press makes a separate video of your predetermined length. I think it constantly deletes at a predetermined folder size though. hardly a big issue though

​@@kyleduhn3593 cache the video to RAM, it's better.

For just $50 more, get the 7800XT, it's got extra everything, not to mention 4GB more of ram. No-brainer IMO. Now, if the 7700XT goes down to, say, 399, that'll be a different story.

@@mistermudpie I agree, but depends on the performance data and if 7800XTs end up actually being available for that price. I guess same goes for the 7700XT though. Not everyone has a loose enough budget to spare $50 extra (but could def be worth the extra savings time). Would be extra interesting if like the 9500 pro/9700 pro days...the 7700XT could be bios flashed into a pseudo 7800XT.

@@mistermudpie looking at AMD's history, I am 100% sure it will come at 399$ in a month or two and at that price it will be no brainer.

@@RahulSingh-uk2sy and both are no brainer vs nvidia offerings if performance is close to what amd is showing.

​@@CoalitionGamingHonestly if you don't have the extra $50, wait. It's definitely coming down to $400, probably for the holidays even if it pops back up for a few months after that.

I guess anyone but Linus will be ok 😂.

@@markod7662 lmaooo

In the end of the day. No one buy AMD before 60% of the msrp price. I really think AMD need start to focus more in improvements than in the price.

The 4070 FE costs £570 (same in dollars usually) and has great power consumption at 200w vs 263w so while upfront costs of the 7800xt is cheaper, it'll cost you more long term. The VRAM shouldn't matter too much except for bad ports on release days but I guess it does give that little bit of security but the main factor is performance, DLSS 3 is good, like, real good and it can actually out perform the 6950xt when on so I'd like to see tests of the 7800xt against the 4070 with DLSS 3 and FSR 2 on to see the actual performance data and that for me will be the deciding factor as a better performing 7800xt and cheaper up front costs will be worth the extra hidden cost of it's power consupmtion but if not, the 4070 will be the better choice imo.

4070 and 4090 are really their only two god cards this gen

@@rio-dq9sc That's just false the 7900 xtx had shortages to rival the 4090 this generation and took 7 months to dip below MSRP ... great cards, and with ROCm and FSR 3.0 out, NVidia must be looking behind them WATCH OUT AMD'S ON YOUR TAIL !!

@@dgillies5420 Meh, again, not really. FSR 2 it was bad. Really, i implemented in some games to try. But. is just a mes, his algorithm is weird. I already have a vague idea of how fsr 3 works. But in any case. 7900xtx drop the price pretty fast in many country's. Here in México don't take even a week in touch the 950 pre ship. Even some states in USA drop the price really fast after the steam chamber problem. And his repository problem(do not exist) The actual price is around 85%/80% in 6 months. 4090 is around 2,086.65 dollars. And his price drop a lot. 4090 still pretty up from the msrp price. AMD even have channels calculated the dates for the drop price just after announcement a new product. nt: sorry my eng is not the best.

I bought a 6950 XT about 3 months ago, and I'm now regretting it ... ... ... and I couldn't be happier, as a healthy GPU market is better for everyone who needs a computer. I hope NV are quaking in their overpriced leather boots and loose market share acordingly. At this rate I might even be able to go back to a 4 year ugrade cycle rather than my previous status quo of holding on to my GTX 1060 for dear life praying that it holds out. The 6950XT is an absolute beast by the way... I just think I'd probably have got a 7800XT + a 'free' copy of starfield instead for a little less power draw and cash

Man. Loving this 6700xt card.

Its not any DX 11 or 12 game though. Theyre releasing it for various games only in a pretty slow roll out thay begins with forespoken, a little while later immortals of aveun, and probably starfield then cyberpunk 2077. Its unlikely youll see wide spread FSR 3 availability in games for years if ever for older titles.

well its open source, so modders and other devs can make software to impliment it into older games@@user-jh8ne2hq9g

@@user-jh8ne2hq9g it literally is though. They said that they’re rolling it out slow for now but by quarter one of 2024, it’ll be available for any DX11 & DX12 game.

@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 driver frame generation only for 7000 series.

That, or the 6750 xt is my next purchase. Glad to see your comment!

@bugsbunny4647 that was my thought buuuut I may hold my card for another year see what the offerings are then and start my next rig.

I've been very happy with the 6700XT as well.. it can handle everything you throw at it no problem! I'm probably going to skip 7000 series, but I'm so happy AMD is so competitive right now

@@thebreatho yeah that's my thought as well. Unless they prove to be 100× better than advertised lol

Woh.. 2 years ago you got 6700xt that must have cost a fortune during crypto boom. But 6700xt is worth though..

I agree. A lot of people, including a lot of other tech channels, are failing to consider the importance of inflation when assessing pricing and value. Inflation has been a LOT higher than normal over the past three years. 500 USD today is equivalent to around 425 USD in 2020, and equivalent to around 440-450 two and a half years ago, when the 6700 XT first launched at the (admitedly bloated) price of 480. Even if there had been no GPU shortage, the 6700 XT likely would have launched at around 400-430, which would be around 450-480 USD today. The 7800 XT looks to be around 40-45% faster than the 6700 XT in standard raster, with 33% more Vram and a bunch of new architectural features. It's definitely a significant improvement in value over the previous generation. Of course, the previous gen 6000 series cards are themselves available at heavily discounted pricing, and have been off and on for around 9 months already, so they are also already a significant improvement in value over when they first launched, but this is normal, and has happened many, many times before with the pricing of previous gen cards. It's stupid when previous gen cards DON'T come down in price over time, especially right before or after new generation cards get released.

Upgraded too from an 2070s to XR 7900 XT and it's the best decision ever made in my computer life. Not gonna buy ever again any nvidia products. Time to stop spending $$$ for Jensen's kitchen upgrades.

I too have a 2070 S. Would love to try AMD again with this card. Hopefully they got their driver bs figured out. The issues that pushed me to Nvidia in the first place.

@@dmitryv3926 theyre alrdy sold out by scalpers again

The 6800XT is faster and better value than both of these cards, but these have convinced you to go AMD? Why?

@@makavelismith because it confounds your control of his narrative. They'll be right in their world and there's nothing you can do about it.

​@@makavelismith3rd party benches arnt out. Your speading miss informed information. Your comparing current last gen prices to current gen msrp... $150 less new chip and tech is a very better value... 😂

If you have $500 for a Gpu, there is ONLY one option, and it's the 7800xt if the performance is even remotely close to what is claimed. If one wants Starfield as well, the deal becomes even more of a slam dunk.

@@makavelismith I was going AMD regardless. I'd rather get a new card over one released 3 years ago. Really all the justification I need. More power to anyone who wants 6800xt, though

The 7800 XT looks to give about 40-45% improvement in standard raster performance over the 6700 XT, for a price which is actually lower than the 6700 XT's launch price, if you adjust for inflation (480 in early 2021 is roughly equivalent to 540 today). Even if the 6700 XT didn't have a bloated launch MSRP, the originally planned MSRP probably would have been around 400-430, which is only a little bit less than 500 USD today, if you account for inflation. Therefore, the 7800 XT is definitely still giving a significant improvement in performance per dollar and value, especially considering that it comes with newer architectural features, possibly even improved upscaling capability which might get really close to DLSS. A lot of people haven't realized just how good lumen is. We're just starting to see the first few games coming out that use it, other than Fortnite, which was the first to implement it maybe 10 months ago. The basic level of lumen looks very good relative to its performance cost, and it works just as well on RX 6000 series cards as it does on Nvidia cards. It is often worth using even on Nvidia cards, because using the hardware accelerated version of lumen doesn't look a lot better, and costs significantly more in performance, and basic lumen does already still come with a significant performance cost. Lumen is, so far, the most efficient real time ray tracing technology, and it doesn't even require any hardware RT to work, and runs just as well on AMD graphics cards. It's actually really amazing. People who work doing 3d rendering for non gaming stuff also consider it to be the most efficient form of ray tracing, and well worth using for some non-gaming purposes as well.

I've been waiting for a fairly priced and specced upgrade for my 2060S and AMD just announced 2. Time to start putting a few shekels aside I think.

Nvidia make more than 10 billions from their data center business per last month, its more than doubled the last year. Compare that to 2.4 billions from their gaming cards, which is only 22% increase. So its not surprising if they shift their focus. I'm think gaming cards is just a side hustle for them.

I think Nvidia is shifting towards ai chips but their potential customers said they're going to slowly build inventory not one big purchase or purchases over the next year.

@@darthwiizius For me they didn't. The 7000 cards are much cheaper to produce due to the chiplet design..., So why are they still that expensive?

Finally a compelling upgrade from my 1080 TI I'm so happy while it's going to be more because I'm in Canada I can't help that finally a compelling graphics card that will be under $1,000

Same

Been seeing the 4070 under 570 sometimes on amazon. Doesn’t last long but the PNY one and another model drop a frequently

Yeh at $499 the 7800xt seems like the Banger card of the generation. If the performance claims are even remotely accurate, and its competitive with the 4070 with the additional 4gb of vram and superior memory bandwidth, AND $100 cheaper (not to mention Starfield Premium for Free as well), it will be the clear choice for many.

@@slickrounder6045 Good luck actually finding it for 499, we all know how this goes.

They've been stockpiling storage so it should be pretty easy to get a 7800XT at launch for MSRP. Even if the card is only on par with the 4070. It being $100 cheaper is still better value

@@ignoranceisbl1ss aftermarket cards will be at least 150 more for the 7700 xt

Please don't expect much performance uplift. The RX 7900 GRE is already around the RX 6900 XT. The RTX 4070 meanwhile is around RTX 3080 12GB. The RX 7800 XT is probably between those two cards.

7800 xt should be 15% faster in ray tracing than 6800xt and 25% faster in regular gaming and other things, so if your on a 6700 series a 7800 xt will be 60% faster and a decent upgrade.

@@UTFapollomarine7409 Your numbers are way off. The 7800xt is comparable to a 4070. Are you under the impression that a 4070 is 60% faster than a 6700xt?

Same thought here. I don't see why else the price indication would make sense.

@@UTFapollomarine7409 Then it wont come it at 500... But at 650 or something.

That is an ideal upgrade path. I suspect that the 7800 XT will have about the same or slightly lower standard raster performance than the 6800 XT, but the added features should still make it a better buy. I suspect that it will eventually have improved upscaling image quality over the 6000 series. 500 USD today is equivalent to about 425 USD in 2020, when the 6800 XT first launched at 650. The 7800 XT is not really an 800 XT class card, as it uses a mid-sized GPU, but it is definitely offering a big improvement over the 6700 XT, probably about a 40-45% increase in standard raster performance, 33% more Vram, more memory bandwidth, and all of the new features of the new architecture, possibly including improved upscaling image quality at some point. Even if the 6700 XT had not launched during a GPU shortage, it likely would have been around 400-430 USD, which if you adjust for inflation, isn't far off of 500 USD today. Of course, the 6000 series discounts have already made the current pricing for 6000 series cards a big improvement over the launch MSRP pricing for them, but the features of the 7800 XT will likely make it a better value than even the 6800 XT for 500.

AMD must lower prices. Even if they performed exactly the same as their NVIDIA counterpart, more people will buy NVIDIA. They need higher sales even at much lower prices to even put a tiny dent in NVIDIA.

@@highlanderknight Yep, it's only way for them to take that market share outside of NVIDIA just not making gaming GPU's, and I don't see that happening. Jensen is too egotistical to do that.

They're not going to swing that hard out of the gate unless they have the big drop for a full new gen and it has to be as good as ryzen was. With 8000 series being mobile, I believe their game plan is to work towards the 9000 series being that homerun but that's beyond 2024 potentially.

@@xXEPIKgamerXx I'm inclined to agree. That's probably their strategy, and I certainly don't expect them to deviate. All I'm saying is that they're fools to do so. All they can think is shorter term, when they should be thinking long term, especially right now while NVIDIA doesn't really care about the gaming market so much. Now is the time to strike and be aggressive, not wait and hope the next generation is going to beat NVIDIA. They've been playing that game for years and it never pans out.

There are a lot of people like me still hanging on to 10 series Nvidia and I 'REALLY' didn't wamt to spend 600 for a 4070.....was eyeballing the 6800xt but I knew the 7800xt would be coming soon so I waited. For anyone who has waited this long. The 7800xt is kinda a no brainer in it's class and price range. I think the 500 dollar price point is competitive enough and that these cards will sell very well even with the Nvidia mindshare advantage.

I feel you on that! I just last week took the plunge on a 6950xt. The 1070ti served me very well over the years.

If you can afford to spend $500 for a Gpu, hard to imagine finding a better deal than the 7800xt if the performance numbers are even remotely close to true. If you care about Starfield at all or would want to play it, that would just be the icing on the cake.

I hope for a future where people don't need to explain "why 1440p instead of 4K". It's the sweet spot. You get such a better frame rate compared to 4K... You keep killing it with that 6950XT!

1440p 240hz monitor here, but with a 3090. It’s a very good resolution for a 27” monitor, really can’t complain.

After having been with Nvidia cards for three generations, with plenty of small (nothing major) bugs and driver issues, I switched to a 6700 XT this year. It's been rock solid. I know issues with drivers will always be highly individual and down to one's exact HW and SW config, but overall I couldn't be happier with how stable the AMD card has been compared my previous three Nvidia cards. I will probably upgrade to the 7800 XT next month.

Can confirm, been running the 6950XT since Feb, have not had a driver issue since I got it.

welcome to the 6950xt family , i also snagged the bad boy at bargain bin prices , love the sapphire pure beast card

The Sapphire PURE one looks nice if you're hoping for a white one

My 6900XT is running undervolted & -10 power limit at 275w with no loss of performance, AMD cards seem to love undervolting.

the VRAM argument is just a marketing gimmick by AMD as games will be made for console specs first and RAM never increased from last gen to this gen (16GB still) so games wont really push it out too far and the only games that struggled with this are bad ports and they'd ultimately get patched and optimised with time so it really isn't as big of a deal for "futureproofing" as AMD makes it out to be.

With AMD and Nvidia you'll go for FSR/DLSS anyway in every game cos they look better than native (at least DLSS), give you more FPS and will half your wattage (4K 470w turn into 4K 220w for example).

My first build is a full amd build and I’ve had zero problem

My friend tried talking me out of AMD when I was building my 5600X/6700XT PC. Despite her warnings about bad drivers and overheating processors, I went with what I could get. It is the most stable build I have done since my 486 PC.

Way better the 6800xt, I personally have the taichi version with 3 8 pin plugs for way better stability. So my guest is amd made a bad call on this new gpus

@@lokteraplays2619 yeah I literally built this machine 3 months ago and have had zero issues and it crashed once because of something I messsd up

i been on amd hardware for years now but my main complaint with the software is randomly chaning my oc and fan setting on reboot about 50% of the time. I'd also like to be able to use the preset setting and manually set a fan curve.

😂😂😂😂😂

he in his 50s lol

He looks even cooler when he ranted to nvidia by burning money (literally burned cash on a video)

@@chadmapping3401I resemble that remark. 😂

@@basedmeditation4158prop cash (not illegal)

The 6800 XT was a slightly cut down N2 die; the 7800 XT is a smaller, cheaper N32 die. The 7800 XT is more comparable to the 6700 XT or the 6800. We also don't know yet exactly how these two new cards compare to the 6800 XT / 6700 XT, but they should at least be much faster than the 6700 XT.

6800 is not a mid range mid range is x600xt and x700

I posted something up above. I'm loving the rx 6700 xt and the Adrenaline software is amazing. I'm really glad I hopped over. Been an Nvidia card user for a long time. But, I'm sold on these cards right now.

Same, man. This and one of new 2x24GB kits would be a sick upgrade.

I have the 6800xt and put a water block on it and its a beast. The fact that they added AV1 to the mix makes me want to upgrade, I just wished the water block was interchangeable😂

@@TheRedneckCodecChannel This is one of the main reasons I have ZERO interest in waterblocks

@@syncmonism i understand 💯. It does amazingly quiet cooling though. Ill just ride this 6800xt out until they really really convince me it would be worth it i.e. 1 or 2 gens later.

Almost exactly the same situation as me, upgrading from a 1080 non-Ti. I was ready to go for a 4070 last week but held off in order to hear today's announcement. I wasn't expecting much, but now it looks like the 7800XT might be my way forward.

@@1975PinkMoon i was making googely eyes at the 4070 as well 🙂but the price is just too high. I don't want to pay more than 500 for a GPU anymore. Used to get Flagship GPUs in the past but you rarely get you moneys worth with those. Got lucky with the 1080ti though. That thing is a work horse and still quite useable even today.

Yes one of the things keeping me away from linux is my gt 1030 card is at it's limit and gets sad using linux drivers trying to even play such simple games as fallout 4 and eve online that play perfect in windows. I'm hoping a new amd card even from a previous generation will help this.

it’s about a bit better than the 6800xt, fsr 3.0 is amazing tho

4070ti is better by 5-10 fps in 1440p and 5fps avg in 4k on 99% of the titles in raw performance versus a 6800xt, so you should have slightly better performance on the 7800xt with far less money. When it comes to RT, FSR will help but of course even though the experience will be good it will not match a 4070ti. But for me it's not worth spending +300$ (minimum) just for better RT experience.

Man, you really shouldn't have spent that much on a 3070. Everybody knew at the time that the prices were hugely inflated and speculative. You lost like $700 on the impulsive buy and that's just sad.

it doesn’t just work on new and old but any other brand, which is amazing, the latency recduction looks crazy too

That FSR3 works on old cards is nothing new ^^ its just sooooooooooooo late

Their upscaler aka FSR 2 looks like garbage with all the artefacts, I don't want to imagine how a more complex frature will look like...

@@crodude743 AMD needs to seriously upgrade FSR to be competetive with DLSS, especially now that Nvidia showed DLSS 3.5. That combined with Frame Generation is absolutely insane.

I can see scenarios where the driver level frame gen is useful but overall it'll likely be fairly useless. At least for the first interaction.

That probably cannot be called an upgrade. You better off wait a bit more and get 7900XT or XTX at lower price.

Not worth it, 6800 will perform pretty much like a 7700XT, then upgrading to 7800XT for like 20% more performance makes no sense if you already have the card.

From 6800 only upgrade is 7900xt/x or 4080/90 if you have money. 7800xt wouldn't be worth to upgrade from 6800

new series is much better at raytracing and has better recording that competes with nvec head to head.

I have a 1070ti, my 4070 is supposed to arrive tomorrow from Amazon 😆. Guess I'll be using my 1070 till the reviews actually come out and buy one. These look promising. Never had an issue with AMD drivers, but the last card I had that was AMD was R9 290. I just built a computer and just need a graphics card. 7800x3d is going to be bottlenecking with the 1070 😂.

It's really good that you can run stable diffusion on nvidia only...

@@Jewelsonn why is that good?

Well 4070 was the best price to performance and price to vram Nvidia card of the generation. The 7800xt seems to be (easily) primed to take the Crown for this generation, but there is no shame in having the 2nd best card of the generation if you are happy with it.

@@jesusbarrera6916 Because Amd can't do this as the hardware incompatibility. If you ever wanted to run any stable diffusion models to create ai art using models from civitai then you simply can.

Im thinking of getting the XTX for VR gaming, but I heard it doesn't take full advantage of the cards power. Let me know if you've tried PCVR and what you think?

Unless Amd is randomly being extremely misleading (which would get it massacred in reviews), there is no realistic way that the 7800xt won't actually beat the 6800xt by anywhere from 5-10% with Raster, and an even bigger advantage with Ray Tracing. Having better power efficiency, a lower price ($499 Msrp versus $510-530 street price), AV1 encoding, better FSR 3 support (Anti-Lag + is exclusive to Rdna 3), will probably cement it as a Strictly Better card than the 6800xt. It has the potential to be the "1080ti" of this generation, the one card that ticks all the right boxes (good price to performance, good vram with 16gb, decent power efficiency at 260w, decent ray tracing with the required Vram to not be bottlenecked, potentially good feature set).

Or, you could skip a generation, and get a big improvement. i mean, if you have every generation cash flow, you could have gone for the 6900xt or 6950xt last time. But 6800xt isn't too bad at 1440p still.

It'll be faster but it's also worth noting it's not really a true successor to the 6800xt. It's probably better to compare it to the 6700xt. Even though the specs don't line up the comparison is better when you consider launch price.

@@captzachevil Launch prices are irrelevant since it was a different world years ago. If you want to compare the 7800xt to a card and call it the "successor" of, then the 6800 (non-xt) would be the obvious choice since they share the same 60 CU and 16gb of vram.

@@slickrounder6045 I always end up forgetting the RX6800 exists. Yeah the CU performance on that is pretty like for like with the 7800XT. That's probably the correct comparison. The thing will most likely easily outperform the 6800XT as well so the pricing for it is just wild. (It's not crazy to think the thing will eventually reach the 300 dollar range.)

They compared them to 2 generations ago on stage. I wouldnt be excited about the benches. you wont be buying these cards.

You can’t wait? I mean it’s always the same bs when a new gpu card get released, so from were you get the hype? Chill Everytime gen is the same thing

@@FullJikamaThat the point of getting hyped for new cards? It’s new tech and cheaper, seeing how much they have progressed as a technology is something to look forward to.

@@rip3650 there is no point buying an overpriced product because of the hype they make be their manufacturers, they only milk the consumerism’s by those buy them card at the very first day, then 1 year later they launch a new card and your actual gpu which buy pay a ridiculous price tag for it now they value the half. So there is absolutely no point at all, you won’t get 50% more performance by buying the next gen, even your eyes won’t notice a gpu that can reach to 250 fps at highest resolution versus a gpu that can reach 220fps ( 30fps less ) You won’t even notice that, so of course and again, there is no point I remember when the 1000 series when released years ago they were at 800 usd the most powerful gpu the 1080ti Now the best gpu of the actual gen will cost you almost 3k….so hello? 4K tv when they released were costing around 2k and above Now you can find 4k tv for less than 500 usd with even a better design, way more flatter, they have now apps on a tv, so if you pay attention industries makes better techs with an affordable price something that nvidia isn’t following and won’t care about the consumerism, so gpus instead of getting better and have an accesible price for the overall consumerism they can’t anymore because of the “hype” and they cost insanely way more just for few fps….nah Fk that! But I gotta say AMD is the only one who cares about their consumers by getting them an very accesible technology with a good a reasonable price and impressive performance for video gamers but the problem are the third party seller those son of a b’s ( I OWN AN AMD GPU 6900xt, I’m not a nvidia fanboy fk that )

Looks like we have a 'Never AMD'er' Invidia sycophant in the house

im hoping it makes Nvidia look to reduce there price and make some competition more than beating someone - although I dont think Nvidia cares about gamers

@@keech100 Now we wait for the real time benchmarks and judge it from there. $499 is not a crazy price + you get a $100 game. It's not terrible!

Power consumption is very misleading as you can easily undervolt it right in the AMD driver software with no or minimal performance loss. I got a 6950 XT that default consumes between 300 and 350W while gaming. Adjusting some sliders in the software now it consumes average 260 W. So I bet if you spend a minute with some sliders on the 7800 XT it will consume around 200W. KZfaq is full of Radeon undervolting videos. I think a 7800 XT is a great deal for 500. I'd much rather buy that vs 4070.

If it can cross all the way for the win against dlss 3.5 with ray tracing of nvidia ,ill buy this card even on tight budget

6950xt is much closer to $600 or more, only rarely (Barely) dipping below $600. It's also nearly out of stock, and when supply is gone, there won't be any New models of it remaining. Almost no chance that the 7800xt beats it in Raster (besides on some titles that favor Rdna 3 over Rdna 2), but it might equal or beat it in RT. What we do know is that the 7800xt crushes it in power efficiency, has Av1 Encoding, has Anti-Lag + (exclusive to Rdna 3) so will have the better Fsr3 Frame Generation support, and most importantly it has the price advantage.

Not even in the same ballpark. Even the 7600 would be a massive upgrade for you as it's around the same speed as the 5700xt. The 7800xt is about double the speed of the 7600.

If you want Starfield anyways, it will be the easiest recommended upgrade path I can think of. Even without factoring in Starfield, $499 for the 7800xt seems to crush expectations, and it might be the "1080ti" of this generation.

@@slickrounder6045 awesome I'll definitely keep my eye on the 7800xt in the coming months, been watching pricing on the 7900xtx slowly come down over time so we'll see which I end up going for

But does the 7800XT outperform the 6900XT by a minimum of 20%? That's the real standard.