Wont be $1000 after launch. Prepare to pay more like $1300-$1500

no they're working for their pockets. They know if it's only a 100-200 dollar difference people would still fetch for the 15% performance increase. This is just clever marketing. They're still going to make a profit out of it and quite a lot actually. I just hope their drivers have improved since the 1000 series, it's what made me go team green.

100% agree and hope more people recognize this! ❤️

🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤 999$

if it was better than a 4090 do you think it would be under a grand, i doubt it.

even optimists in chat were saying 1200$ for xtx

Plus, the 7600 (XT) are going to be beasts for budget builds when they eventually release!

@@G0ldmoon still cheaper

Is this better than rtx4090

@@SpartanArmy117 yes. The 4090 costs 50% more.

And and the other message today was... it works with what you currently have and will work with what you buy in the future. Far more economic sense for a wider market they're chasing.

Just keep in mind 3rd parties will use their own cooling designs. For example the ASUS TUF 7900XTX will be a 3x8pin power and 4 slot design.

False they will use the same coolers as the 4090 and push around the same average power of the 4090 on AIB models. So expect 400+watts on the 7900xtx.

copious amounts of copium

@@_____mh ?

I doubt EVGA will reenter the Graphics card market. AMD has Sapphire, and EVGA and Sapphire have always been compared to each other.

I'm pretty sure the CEO of evga specifically said they will not be switching over to AMD cards

@@Brandon_Neil I think you are right. Its a real shame though. throughout the years i have always respected EVGA's designs, temps and performance. not often do you have a company that just gets it right. i have to admit the designs became a bit tacky later on. but the knowledge these guys have should not be wasted in my opinion, i wish they would grace us with a card that was made with an actual partner. We can only imagine

@@Brandon_Neil It's still nice to dream about what an RX 7900 Kingpin Edition would be like tho...

EVGA did say they would not switch to AMD. Too bad, EVGA was ALWAYS my first choice for GFX.

You don't know how good it is yet 😂

@@paullasky6865 Chill out fanboy. We have a good idea. Your in multiple comments downplaying people's expectation. XTX seems 5-15% slower in 4k than 4090 and smokes anything the 4080 16GB has to offer. for less money. Anyone considering 4080 and not full into raytracing would be dumb to buy a 4080. Dont get me started on Ngreedias pricing and 12GB mess.

@@zkilla4611 I'm on a copy paste vibe today bro.

@@paullasky6865 LOL. I dig that.

@@paullasky6865 admitting that is not a good thing

Same, gonna swap my 2070 for a 7900xt for sure, 5900x will love it

My thoughts exactly. New psu, possibly motherboard, new case, must diy a holding tray... like why bother with a brick of a gpu just to have it **potentially/allegedly** catch fire and melt... team red easy win gg wp easy peasy lemon squeezy

Only issue is they lied about the performance and oversold what the cards actually do. The new cards can only run 2 4k screens (aka 4k ultra wide), 8K still only runs at 60 fps or less during reasonably heavy gaming. It's the same bullsh*t nvid pulled last gen.

From what I see, the 7900xt is going to be below the 4080 but $900 instead of $1200. I'm also interested in getting a 7900 though. But will have to see how will FSR works. Dlss is said to be way better.

I went full AMD with the 6000 series and I honestly wouldn't change back. Only time I'd consider it would be a future gen being made a real mess of

yeah, I want to be able to buy a GPU and afford the electricity to use it too!

Opposite of Ryzen 7000 lmao

@@hellowill the CPU it self is cheaper however we dont know why the boards are just insanely high.... + ryzen 7000 got eco mode to get good performance with low wattage

1.5x in Exodus with Ray Tracing means it’s on par with 3090 350W and significantly weaker than 4080 320W, they didn’t even dare to show RT in Cyberpunk. If this is impressive then 200$ extra for 4080 is nothing.

@@hellowill That's what I thought too. Intel & Radeon for economy. But I am appealed to try a full AMD computer now.

It's nice to see even our gpu options are going to be RGB (AMD Red, Intel Blue, and Nividia Green). Gotta love it. 😆

i think Red vs blue might have good twist soon with the 7000x3D cpu version coming.

Green team only wants your hard earned green cash.😂

I needed to pull the trigger early due to some issues with my machine at the time and needing the uptime for work. I now have a Ryzen 7700x system with a 6900XT for it, it was a decent price for the card. This is really making me wish I dealt with a cheap card for a few months instead though; I really didn't think they'd go $1000 for their current top end card. Now I have some decisions. I went with a 7700x system anticipating upgrading next year but now I'm thinking I could do both cpu and card early next year. I have a brother that wants/needs a new computer so maybe I'll use my hand-me-downs as a base for his system. Its both sad and great to be seriously thinking about that.

I wouldn't put too much into that. Even the 4090 isn't able to output the frames that would require more than dp1.4 for 4k Gaming. Much less the new AMD Radeon cards. Add to that the fact you can't really find dp2.1 monitors or TVs out there yet and it's just marketing. Even if there was, the xtx isn't able to output the frames that would make 1.4a sweat.

@@dhruvang5369 Well the 4090 certainly can saturate 1.4 with DLSS and if it can't there is no reason to buy it over 3090 Ti which is currently half the price. The 4090 is handicapped by it's output.

@@markwashington7731 i get 30% more frame rate at 4k with a 4090 compared to my old 3090ti.

@@muffmanaj games and actual fps numbers?

@@josephoverstreet5584 battlefield 2042 3090ti 80-90 frames 4090 130-150

7900XTX will compete with the RTX 4080 in rasterization, but will get beat badly in ray-tracing. I'd expect it to be 20-30% slower than the RTX 4090.

@@icy1007 it will most likley beat the 4090 in rasterization. You might be right about RT but we haven't fully seen the capability of FSR 3 yet.

What you mean? The 4080 is a massive downgrade from 4090, not even to mention the 4080 12gb, I'd say this is going to be around 4090 and 4080 in raw power and with ray tracing maybe will catch up 3080 from last gen lol

@@Megatrance9000 I highly doubt that the xtx will beat the 4090 in rasterization. They are focusing way more on power efficiency and price. It is more likely competing with the 4080 and will then beat it but lost in Ray tracing.

@@john9801 RT will be just north of a 3090ti and raster will be +-5% of a 4090 if their numbers are accurate, remember this is 1.7x a 6950, not the 6900, the 6950 is right on par with a 3090ti.

Gonna be slower it sounds like. If not, they would be crowing. Probably gonna kick the shit out of the 4080.

Me too! If its better at $899 & $999 I'm definatly switching to AMD from NVIDIA

@@jolness1 Yeah probably is a bit slower, but one of the things I'm gonna find exciting is the "price to performance" since the Nvidia cards have a pretty steep price for a lot of people.

@@JohnFromTheInternet. I bought a 4090 and the price was most definitely steep. I could have bought a PS5, Series X, Steak Deck, a 40 inch 4k TV and had a couple of hundred change.

@@jolness1 well might be slower but these days 355w vs 450W is crazy so if its 10-15% slower, who the fek cares :)

It is not slower. Dying light 2 with DLSS Quality, 4K Ultra, Ultra Ray Tracing runs at average 72 FPS on RTX 4090. Even 7900XT runs at average 72 FPS with same settings but FSR enabled instead of DLSS.

It will not be 15% slower than a 4090. Stop with this absurdity. People completely lack any critical skill analysis in this day and age it seems. They didn't show even a single benchmark in comparison to the 4090 for a reason. It has almost half the Tflops, less transistors, less clock speed, costs 600$ less but sure, it will be only 15% slower, how not.

And how much energy efficient it is!!

@@lavir74 I don't what your looking at, but even without DLSS 4090 is like 88fps in dyling at 4K with RT. it's is slower than the RTX 4090, hence when it's priced well below it.

Power usage too

abviously they didn't compare cuz this cards are not that strong , i mean they can't compare it to 3000s cuz 4000 exist , and they can't compare it to 4090 cuz they abviously can't reach that performance and its a bad marketing move , 4080 are not out yet so they can't also use it as comparaison , but if they are at least in the range just 15% power less then team green then nvidia is fucked

tbh I think both will be faster than 4080, but RT won't be as fast, it will depend on if the people is interested on paying at least 200+ for a bit more on RT. Raster perf, if their 50-70% is true, it means that they may be around 4090 or less on that. What intrigues me is that they are really low on power consumption (300 and 355w cards) AND speeds 2.3 and 2.5 is not that much so, will be interesting how the partners will play with that and see how much they can extract in perf.

Its not "sub $1000 MSRP"...... Just call it what it is, $1000

@@anthonycleaveland1839 Its not a 1000$ msrp, just call it what it is, 999$ :D (heh sorry it was a low hanging fruit)

@@anthonycleaveland1839 But $999 is indeed $1 less than $1000, so it is technically sub-$1000. However, I agree that, effectively, $999 = $1000.

yeah man....the 4090 is really good but 450w is too much and u need a new cable + its so big......too much negative stuff....amd came with a 300=350w max that beats the 4080 and has more vram that cost less......fuck the 4090..........the 4090 if it was 1500dollars....that needs 350w power and didnt have the stupid cable then maybe i would consider it....but right now? amd for the win baby

We are currently speaking of 2.5Ghz over.a few years time we are going to talk about 3Ghz then 4 and the cooling wil be as big as your house Later we will be like `you have a 8 core cpu and a rtx 3090` hahaha Tech is advancing so fast my friend wants to build a new pc with 12700k but it is already outdated by the 13600k which is faster but he is still waiting for the prices to drop

@@INFINITEShoobes AMD just came with the 7900xtx and it uses 100 watts less than the 4090......it costs 600 bucks less....and it's not a 4slot card but a 2.5 slot card....also it uses 2 8 pin instead of the stupid 12 pin Nvidia has that burns ur PC to crisps.....also they both have the same 24gb gddr6 ram......and I bet it runs cooler than Nvidia..... Team red for the win for sure......who cares any more about Intel and Nvidia when all they did for years was steal peoples money for no improvements every next gen hardware.....AMD now can handle 4k ultra with no stupid dlss and 1000wats psu like an Intel Nvidia rig........so AMD basically raped Intel and Nvidia this year! THATS WHY JAY 2 CENTS SAID HE IS GOING ALL RED RIG THIS YEAR! which is the right thing to do for every scenario including ur pocket......safety....... electric bills....... Coolling capabilities....... features..and more!

Looking at 6950xt Vs 4090 benchmarks, and taking an aggregate of the 6950xt and adding on around 50% to simulate an 7900xt they land around 10-15% behind an 4090 but possibly ahead of an 4080. I think they aren't showing Nvidia comparisons as they dont want to spook Nvidia into price dropping the 4080, so they can say look how the 7900 is faster and far cheaper. If it's within 10% of an 4090 but nearly half the price they could take huge market shares.

What power supply do you run now? I have a 750 watt, but hoping I dont need a new one a 7900xtx or xt card. I don’t mind buy one if I need it tho.

Amazing pricing!!! AMD is coming hard for Nvidia

Slow..

@@FJano12 dummy

@@FJano12 slow with that wattage? You’re high

@@Jrobz224 Who gives a fuck about that? 4080 is 320TDP but nobody cares about, these are little things unless you bought a 650W cheap PSU but you still wanna splash a grand on a GPU.

I can't wait to see what the RX 7500 XT will be like.

​@@BNBPhotofr sames

@@BNBPhotofr I wonder how good the smallest card will be rx 7400, might perform like an rtx 2060 at the tdp and price of gt 1030 lol

Extrapolating AMD's data suggests it will outperform the 3090Ti. As always, wait for benchmarks.

@@asplmn I mean ofc it will even the 6950XT is neck at neck with it ^^ It should outperform the 4080, than its really great value.

I am also down. I am currently on 1660ti for several years on my ryzen 5800x. I am for sure looking forward to this new one. Let's see the benchmarks ;)

This video alone convinced me to go straight for the 4090. No comparisons to the premium card was a gigantic red flag. Nvidia really did something special this time in terms of performance jump from the 3090 to 4090, and it shows in every solitary metric. I'm not waiting, I'm convinced. Nvidia ALL THE WAY.

@@VesperAegis no

Same taxes make it around 2100 in my country and thats around msrp

No comparisons whatsoever to the 4090 RTX was the biggest red flag I've seen in a while. Odds are high that AMD completely missed the mark not by a little here, but by a lot. People assumed that AMD would continue making steady progress and make further incursions into Nvidia's top-end premium card market, but it's quite likely that they haven't with the enormous boost that the 4090 had compared to the 3090. For the best of the best, it looks like the 4090 RTX remains the best way to go.

@@VesperAegis Read to room lol They could of easily released a 7950XTX with a 450W power draw. People want a reasonably priced card, with good perf per watt that can fit in their case. Also if you took like a minute to do some math you'd realise that the 7900XTX will trade blows with the 4090 is rasterization performance

@@VesperAegis red flag ? while consumer still can wait 3rd review before buy? man red flag term really easy to use these day. anything doesn't exist but didn't satisfy personal interest, "RED FLAG"

@@VesperAegis does it really need to beat the 4090? Now if they crush the 4080s then that is where the money is having the best gpu in the world at $3000aud to $3800aud vs crushing the gpu's that sell better being the 4080s at a cheaper price point seems to me like hitting the mark to me !!

See if it can run...CRYSIS! 😀

I bet the lower tier cards will be true 2 slot as well, just like rdna2. Team red for SFF seems so obvious this gen and in the future. 👍

Yes! As an owner of H1 case I'm thrilled about the new AMD cards. I'm really hoping the availability will be good this time around.

@@ivanobulo rumor is less at launch than the 4090 but more consistent after day 1 so they will be matching overall volume of Nvidia flagship

It is still expensive people clapping at 1000 dollars GPU smh. People have become desensitized due to the insane prices of the pandemic.

Yep, now the question for me is which ITX case?

I've also got a 1080ti, was waiting on this or maybe Rdna 4 when it comes out.

@@UltimateGattai Get the RX 7xxx series! I'm sure it's going to be worth it. I'll be buying one depending on the price points because my MSI 1660 GTX is just not keeping up anymore unfortunately. I gotta jump the gun.

Also on 1080ti. Impatiently waiting for these to hit market and see some real comparisons before building a whole new rig

i got a used 3070 for like 400 bucks the speed difference is pretty significant but i had a 1070ti for 1440 p its pretty fantastic i didnt wanna go for 4k cuz fuck that price point i cant imagine it even looking all that much better that and games dont even have the graphics at this point in time to even justify 4k in my opinion

@@kinsgaming8197 Same here. 2k is the sweet spot for me. If you want really good frames without sacrificing much at 4k, you have to spend a sh** ton on a GPU and then you need a good monitor to back it up. I'm not wasting that much $$$ lol

Your a woman

my 3080TI will do it just fine hahahha

@@86srki Amen! 3000 series cards will suffice for many many years.

That's the case for most of us. Some also can afford to upgrade each time but there is no need to..

@@Addeatt yes 💯

Where is that PFP from?

Same here waiting for 3rd party reviews...

same. Planning an 70003D and AMD build Q1 2023.

But what about the single thread performance from intel CPUs?

They look like nvidias 3000 series……..

12:55

I would hate to be that guy, paying $600 more, higher 100watt monthly bill, just to get the exact same performance/fps. Im just not an earth killer.

@@fynkozari9271 7900 XTX isn't going to match the 4090, it's a 4080 competitor. That still makes the AMD card a great value, but if you want absolute top performance 4090 is it.

@@markh4750 Too expensive for my tastes. I'm waiting for a 4080Ti.

@@Rev0ltTTV bro who in their right mind would get the 4080 ti or 4080? they are way worse and more expensive than the 7900xtx

Nvidia lost me completely as well because of EVGA's departure BUT thats not all whatsoever. The absolutely BULLSHIT pricing is a huge factor too, along with their failed ass power delivery, and absurd power requirements. Not everyone is made of money lol.

That build will be insane

For what it's worth, just a couple weeks ago I bought a 5800X3D and saw an immediate performance and graphics improvement while still running a Radeon 580. I highly recommend it unless you are going straight into the 7000 series GPUs. I'm not ready to get into a new series of board and RAM.

Man they got me with those 6900 XT price cuts too! Definitely no regrets, it's been an awesome card, and a solid upgrade over my old 1080TI

even if FSR 3 is close to DLSS 3 it makes the 4090 a really bad value for everyone

ironically AMD made cyberpunk High/Ultra mixed settings on 2k playable for me on my 1080 TI with FSR 2 ultra quality preset with ~55fps avg compared to 30 fps no FSR

@@Megatrance9000 it is a niche product I think, only for the ones that want the best of the best but now is more pronounced imo.

@@nevernicemeadow open source giving has been a long tradition with team red. glad it did so much to benefit!

Well said man.......u spoke the truth and I thank you for that

Unless you're actually playing AAA games at 4k the only thing going with AMD over Nvidia will cost you is ray tracing. Most gamers play at 1080p or 1440p. At those resolutions I doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between team red's cards and team green's cards. I too am thinking of going AMD this time around, for the sole reason of the power consumption. I'm not too thrilled with AMD's power usage either but at least they actually tried to work on efficiency, unlike Nvidia.

@@katnerd6712 good choice man.... thank u for supporting AMD

@@nephilimslayer I support the product that gives fits my needs. Only reason I'm thinking of going AMD is because the AV1 encoder (and other optimizations this gen) negates Nvidia's advantage that kept me buying them and the absurd power consumption. I still intend to get a couple years use out of my EVGA 3070ti...but that could also be viewed as a dig at Nvidia all things considered, I suppose :P

Well - What kept me on the NVIDIA side was the gaming performance under Linux. At first (a few years ago) AMD cards only could do some 2D acceleration (if they where working at all) under Linux. AMD seems to have made some improvements here, but the question is if these improvements are enough to play demanding games (I use Steam on Linux by the way). If AMD really have improved their Linux drivers considerably on the 3D acceleration front, maybe my next card will be an AMD card. But until I have confirmation the AMD cards are on par with the NVIDIA cards (driver and price per performance) it will be a tough choice.

Judging by the lack of Nvidia in benchmarks, they have no fate that 7900xtx will beat 4090 or even 4080

I think it will beat the 4080 potentially. Or it will be very close. + or - 5 percent. The real selling point is the price and the TDP. If you want raw performance then the 4090 is for you. Just a large price gap. But that price gap has been true this generation and nvidia has continued to sell. This is not the win ppl think it is for AMD. Still a massive feat though.

@@DuBstep115 They obviously can't bench it against 4080, because it isn't out yet, and as for 4090 it obviously can't beat it but it's not in the same ballpark to begin with, 355W TDP vs 450W TDP and 1000$ vs 1600$, that 600$ can literally buy you CPU+MOBO+RAM combo.

@@DuBstep115 no it’s literally corporate marketing 101. When you’re facing a competitor that has significant mind share it’s considered a deadly sin to compare your product as something that has similar performance but for a lower price. This cements you as a value brand or “less premium” in people’s minds and it’s very difficult to escape that label.

im really curious about overclocking. RDNA 2 had a lot of potential and leaks were saying that RDNA 3 can be pushed past 3ghz with no problem

The only thing you're giving up 7900XTX vs 4090 is ray tracing performance, the rasterization will, at worst, be on par and single digit % loss at 4k and at best be outright better. Not to mention that AMD have intentionally left a lot of headroom, they could easily have gone 450W to try to just outright win across the board but they decided against it after seeing the backlash to the Nvidia coolers and power draw. Another thing to consider, the same leakers that have basically predicted this 1:1 (prices aside since those sometimes literally change a day before they're shown) are saying that AIB have a lot of extra 4090 coolers and will just slap those on the 7900XTX, overclock it heavily and call it a day. So at the end of the day you'll probably be looking at a 1000$ reference card from AMD that is much smaller than the 4090, uses way less power and performe relatively the same OR a 1200$ AIB with a gigantic cooler that most likely beats the 4090 across the board in terms of rasterization. They're having their cake and eating it too.

@@DebasedAnon AMD probably didn't want to blow a 450W model on release when they could wait to release a 7950 XTX with that tdp.

@@Gabu_ the 7950 is probably gonna end up being a refresh at some point with marginally superior specs across the board and marginally higher TDP, unless ofc Nvidia pull some 650W 4090ti out then they'll gladly up it to even 500W if they wanted since it would look reasonable in comparison.

@@DebasedAnon Nah, Nvidia will not hold back and unleash a 4090Ti with 750w and ask you to pair it with a case that fits 2 psu 🤣 And ask EVGA to make a 16pin only psu 🤣

@@Basics_of_Gameology And then start their own PSU division and try to screw over EVGA in that market too :^)

AMD: are two new GPUs are starting at 899 and 999. Nvidia: why did you have to go and do that?

Yeah I went from always using Intel to AMD with 3600 as well and it's been such a great experience

Dropped 600 on a 6800XT and it has everything locked at 1440p 144Hz on ultra settings.

@@actually5004 which CPU did you pair it with? Unsure which one to go with

6900xt and ryzen7 5600x and 140 or higher FPS on call of duty at 1440p

@@shorthouse20 6800XT with a 5800X3D on sale.

RTX 3080 @ 1440p i7 (specs don't matter at 1440p or 4K as it is GPU-demanding) and I play most AAA titles on ULTRA except AA is turned down to 2x on multi-sampling and I turn down bloom/tesselation and I hold 120 fps on most games. Some I am over 140 fps.

This is what I am thinking going all AMD, allready got a 7900x CPU and a Asus mobo, but I am kinda leaning towards a cheap rtx 3080 evga ftw3 and call it a day

Listen, personally I've been rooting for AMD as the underdog for as far back as i can remember, pre 2010s even because they kept making vastly superior products but Nvidia would outsell them based purely on mindshare while Intel straight up pulled illegal bs against them and got sued (and lost). I've always rooted for them over the alternatives and still do against Nvidia but this isnt them "caring about gamers" it just crosses paths with it. They're aggressively pricing because they've seen all the missteps Nvidia have made with the latest generation and are going for the jugular to get marketshare, yes it happens to coincide with helping out gamers too but that was never the goal. Any company pretending to be altruistic is not to be trusted quite frankly, they have a clear profit motive like every company should at its core they just realised pleasing the potential annoyed GPU customers will work greatly in their favor.

If you run the latest Nvidia cards with the latest intel processors your PC is basically as hot as a wood burning stove. I can't understand why people don't seem to care, it's so inefficient and chances are they don't even need that much power since all they do is browse reddit and tiktok.

@@originalguckfoogle This. Idk why people don't value efficiency AT ALL, it seems to be one of the only markets where thats the case... In laptops even efficiency is highly valued, in completely different industries its also valued but when it comes to desktop it suddenly becomes "idc if its only single digit % gains over the alternative while using 500W+ I STILL WANT IT" but why? I'd personally be willing to take a lot of drawbacks over my room having a constant 900W space heater running (Intel + Nvidia).

Been running 5600x with 6700xt and I love it

People still care about VR Gaming?

@@kutark Yes us vr simracers exist mate. Shame pc vr is dying as all headsets are doing away with displayports though

It wasn't real 8K they were presenting. They were presenting "Two 4K side-by-side" and calling it 8K. Real 8K is FOUR 4K. Like the "8K" they were showcasing was 7680x2160, which is only half of real 8K. REAL 8K is 7680x4320, see the difference? The height is DOUBLE of what they used.

My main reason to want to upgrade this generation is for better VR performance on my Reverb G2. Really exciting stuff. And yes, after you add in FSAA to reduce jaggies, you really are increasing the resolution beyond the 4k resolution to improve visuals.

@@xampew No, they presented both ultrawide "8k" which, true, is actually ultrawide 4k, 2 4k monitors, as you specified, but ALSO actual 8k.

Wouldn’t it be better to wait until the new series releases and get lower end gpu of that series? I want to finally upgrade myself (my 1080 fried up 2 years ago and been waiting for good performance/price gpus) I’ve heard the 6800xt is a very good and affordable cars for its performance and can still hold its ground compared to newer cards

@@legowelt0809 That's what I meant. I am not going to spend the $ on these new cards as I am going to get plenty of performance at 1440p from the 6800xt. I picked up a brand new MSI 6800xt Gaming X Trio for $450.

In my case the prices have been giving me transient ischemic attacks. ("Mini strokes" to those of you have never had them.) Now days they are more on the migraine level.

I hope Nvidia will lower their prices. GPUs are getting too expensive. Nvidia more than AMD.

And if paying over 1.5k for a GPU doesn’t give you a heart attack you’re later exposed to a secondary cardiac risk whilst straining to lift the f@£king thing out of its box. Then a further risk whilst straining to crowbar it into your case. And then yet another risk whilst fleeing your burning house. Overall I calculate that owning a 4090 increases your net all-cause mortality risk by 70%.

@@frankhardon LOL!

@@frankhardon Brilliant! 😀

Dam I am about to build a new pc after my GTX1080 finally died what graphic card do I go for 4080, 3080 or new 7900xt!

@@jamesw7565 I'd say wait till reviews drop for RDNA 3 then pick up a cheap RDNA 2 gpu after prices crash. Right now prices for RDNA 2 are really good especially if you follow /r buildapcsales

For me, I need to see performance comparisons with both the 4080 and 4090 before I pull the trigger. My hype levels are extremely tempered and seeing is believing. The price point is admittedly very attractive. We'll see when the benchmarks release!

These are faster than the 4090. They know it and they don't need to brag about it over and over - this is a good start for such an approach. RT will be around 3090Ti so the price is aggressive. The RT is a game of 2023 and forward.

@@HanSolo__ How do you know it's faster than the 4090?! Your statement not based on data smacks of fanboyism. Personally I would love it if the 7900xtx was faster in rasterization because it would be a perfect card for the price. But shooting from the hip like that? Dumb.

Those of us who only use Linux for gaming are keenly looking for and awaiting the almighty benchmarks. I'm ok with a little less speed than the 4090 if it means the card runs cooler. And AMD has a good record of releasing performance updates via the MESA driver pipeline. On Linux you don't ever have to install or do anything when using AMD, it just works natively.

I went 4790k to 5800x and I don’t think the amd chip is as “snappy” and is hotter -keep wondering if I have not installed something correctly or have a bios setting out.

@@roosterbooster6238 You'll need to reinstall Windows because it's doesn't like having hardware changed - something MS seeks to monetize - Linux is indifferent and the kernel will automatically adjust to hardware changes during the boot process

you can just set 4090 to 975mv/2800Mhz , it still got TSE about 19000 , and won't above 300ish W . you don't need over volt it to cost 500W and only get 5% perfomance

hope u do some work also with the pc, if only gaming then no need ;)

@@dynameis I could but I won't.

Sounds like you already have all you need my friend

@@Nerlin lol

Nvidia drivers > AMD drivers

@@extraglutenplz3758 For now. :)

Same. Things are shaking up and you we just don't know what's in store just yet. I am itching to get a 4090 rig, but I can't because I doubt like wasting money to performance either. Who does?

$1,000 is not reasonable.

@@GhostOfSnuffles it's their flagship dude. How much has inflation been in the last 2 years? The price is very reasonable.

@@GhostOfSnuffles gtx 4080s price tag is not reasonable lol these cards are.

@@GhostOfSnuffles I get the feeling that some of you were trollbaiting, expecting the cards to be between 400-500USD. That in itself is the definition of unreasonable.

@@jesh879 Inflation hasn't doubled in the past few years, dude. Blaming the economy for GPU makers raking customers over the coals is the stupidest excuse for price gouging i think i've seen yet.

LTT did a vid like that

It does but we've been here with AMD many, many times now. We have to wait and see.

I'm doing the same, but my thought is going AMD for my streaming/gaming PC. That's where I am at.

@Electronics For everybody Ikr! I have a solid steel side panel on my case (ik, I'm a bit old school, but I it clean like that), but these cards make me want to swap to a glass panel. 8)

At last they got rid of those dumb red R.

i think the 7800xt will be a winner in the budget / lower tier card .. its not going to compete with the 4080 16 thats what the 7900xt is for .. 6800xt vs 3080 .. i think it leaves the 7800xt in the destroy the 4070 market .. and the 7700xt vs the 4060 ... i honestly dont believe there is any need for either company to go below 7700/4060 cards this gen !! that is what arc is for !!

Their equivalent to the 4070(formerly 4080 12GB) going to probably be for what Nvidia will probably sell a 4050 Ti or 4050 or 4060 or less

It'll be a bit faster than the 4080

@@paullasky6865 it’ll be a decent bit faster than the 4080. Go back and look at the 4080s specs and you’ll see it’s a pretty sizeable downgrade from the 4090 (around 25-30% weaker in terms of raw numbers [16384 cuda cores vs 9728 on the 4080]). The xtx is being put between the two in performance, but will likely be closer to, if not beating the 4090 in raster (edit: in some games). RT is a whole different ball game, but with 60% improvement on 6900xt rt performance and fsr 3 still to come with latency improvements and frame generation, suddenly the gap has closed massively between the two companies.

I'd wager more like 1.6x Remember they claimed 54% architecture gain + a little bit of clock boost.

@@olaole8315 too bad AMD went with 20 gbps memory here, instead of maybe 24 gbps... but prices would likely be higher, and the way these 7900 cards are configured and designed is refined, impressive, and insanely fast.