AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Review - Leo can't believe it!

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Today Leo goes hands-on with the new AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D processor. Equipped with AMD's 3D V-Cache technology, how does it compare against the regular 7950X, and Intel's i9-13900K? Leo goes over everything you need to know in his detailed review. Read the written review: bit.ly/3Z5KO6U
00:00 Leo’s unboxing!
00:45 Introduction to 7950X3D
02:17 How will it work?
03:59 Leo explains stacking
05:23 The problem so far…
06:45 Laying the groundwork for the review
09:15 What happens when you use the wrong BIOS
10:43 Test setup
13:49 7950X behaviour
14:45 7950X3D behaviour
16:05 CPU benchmark results
19:38 Gaming benchmarks
22:18 Leo’s closing thoughts
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@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

Update: the 7950X3D will launch at retail tomorrow, 28th February. It will be sold for £749.99 at OCUK for UK buyers

@treyquattro Жыл бұрын

Talking of launches, I've just seen an "overview" of an MSI Tomahawk X670E board from an Australia-based channel on KZfaq. I can't find this anywhere (else) except a "leak" on Twitter from someone with a few hundred followers. Is it a thing? Even a rumor of a thing?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

@@treyquattro It's listed on MSI's website, so i'd say it is certainly a thing www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X670E-TOMAHAWK-WIFI/Overview

@arwlyx Жыл бұрын

So right now on ocuk it's £150 more expensive and barely any faster than the 13900K.. I'll stay with my 3900X. lol

@treyquattro Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech and now Bing is returning the same link that you supplied. Evidently a timing thing. Must be announced/embargoed until today and not yet visible in Pacific time zone.

@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Leo all the way from North Carolina Research Triangle Park area Raleigh/Durham. I love how you get straight into it without all the misleading and big question mark thumbnails. (Sorry Gamers Nexus/Paul's Hardware...etc) I like your honest and old school mindset when it comes to these reviews. Straight, no chaser.

@ALFGamingTV Жыл бұрын

Thank you mr. Leo. -20 degrees and +~20% perfomance gain??! Good job AMD!

@zodwraith5745 Жыл бұрын

Apply the same power limits to the 7950x and you'll see very little performance drop. Both AMD and Intel crank the voltage WAY higher than needed to try and eek out that last 1-2% Sad part is the gaming boost is not 20% vs everything, just in cache sensitive or latency sensitive games. The choice of games here really massively favors that. SotTR LOVES cache and should be thrown out when no one plays it anymore. It inflates averages and misinforms the viewer.

@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 Жыл бұрын

Missed this yesterday. Great stuff Leo, many thanks for the work, its genuinely useful for what i have coming in the post soon!

@gogopowerrangers6596 Жыл бұрын

Great that Leo did this instead of luke ! New perspective and you don’t look bored out of your head like luke lately either !

@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252 Жыл бұрын

Agree❤

@inlovewithmycar7085 Жыл бұрын

Yep 100%

@historianfabulousio5128 Жыл бұрын

Luke is bored just.

@8020Alive Жыл бұрын

Yeah why is this channel always like that? That's a good point. Lazy, bored, mumbling all the time. Thank you for calling them out. Hopefully they get their act together.

@KnightRider-lq5yb Жыл бұрын

@@8020Alive its only really luke JT. Leo and James and Dominic are doing great content.

@duladrop4252 Жыл бұрын

Your installation Guide gives us a heads up on this processor. Appreciate the extra very helpful tips... more power to you guys...

@checkers7730 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the in-depth info on AMDs recommendations for set up. Not seeing this info from other sources.

@DrBreezeAir Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review and especially that unboxing.

@andyjoelharper3448 Жыл бұрын

Wow, Leo reminds me of John Houseman on MasterPiece Theatre! I am mesmerized by his descriptions of the 7959x3D! Good job, chum! Thanks for a solid review!

@KnightRider-lq5yb Жыл бұрын

Great to see Leo doing these for a change. Instead of just intel. Much faster pace and you look genuinely interested as well !

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

When Meteor Lake comes out I shall do a dance routine and take it up a level Leo

@stevewatson6839 Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech We'll remind you, don't worry!!! I expect you'll bat that into the Edgbaston Rd with aplomb too! 👍

@zkilla4611 Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech Wasn't it cancelled?

@GSP-76 Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech I do believe there is no Meteor Lake coming... probably just a Raptor Lake refresh.

@nateTrh Жыл бұрын

@Gurvinder Parmar It's mostly going to be raptorlake refresh but they may bring a "mid tier" meteor lake chip (6P 8E) to the socket if they can manage that. Intel just keeps being intel I guess.

@HitmanSC2 Жыл бұрын

The setup stuff you included for this processor is extremely helpful, bookmarking for later when I get it ahah. Cheers!

@Berserkism Жыл бұрын

Nice review as always, I find myself coming here more and more often for that first review.

@johnerikson2443 Жыл бұрын

fantastic technical analysis Kitguru - learned a lot, and will likely need to watch it again when my processor and new board arrives!

@canarychrome7012 Жыл бұрын

A Leo review just after the weekend. My favourite for a Monday night 😊

@iamahappybunny7640 Жыл бұрын

A lot of work in his Leo. Well done ❤

@bobsmithson8592 Жыл бұрын

Can we get Leo to do more AMD content ? Best amd article from Kitguru in years ❤

@larwiemcdonnel5322 Жыл бұрын

ive watched it twice. so much in it to wrap my head around

@dakrawnik4208 Жыл бұрын

Love that you aren't focused on 1080p results.

@DJFLEXUK Жыл бұрын

Great video loads of info on installing chip

@philard Жыл бұрын

I own a 7900x3D now. Thanks for the review. Tech powerup has this checklist for setting up the core parking thing.

@danijelb.3384 5 ай бұрын

Is that complicated to do?

@Conan568 Жыл бұрын

I'll be booting mine up for the first time tomorrow.

@Wimpelmann Жыл бұрын

Can´t wait to see what the 7800X3D is able to do in Gaming....

@butosai2539 Жыл бұрын

should be about the same. the software is limiting the cpu down to what a 7800X3D would be when games are launched

@fluphybunny930 Жыл бұрын

@@butosai2539 Games don't take advantage of anything the 7800x3d can do. Like you said, results will be VERY similar. Its a pretty crappy tactic by AMD releasing this first tbh.

@hiimcortana1568 Жыл бұрын

@@fluphybunny930 crappy for customers but the best for shareholders of AMD. Businesses will always make the business minded decision before anything.

@rayndooma5624 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the 1440p gaming benchmarks!

@sultankg2541 Жыл бұрын

That’s a lovely test setup.

@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын

I'll be ordering my 7900X 3D tomorrow. The decrease in heat will make these even more attractive for SFF builds. I plan on sizing down and putting in my new Cooler Master NRP200 MAX build this week.

@tft_and_chill Жыл бұрын

there is not a single review out tho, also 7900 non x looks more attractive atm

@fluphybunny930 Жыл бұрын

@@tft_and_chill And for gaming the 7800x3d is very likely to post the same gaming benchmarks as any of these.

@skylernicholas5429 Жыл бұрын

It for sure uses 8 cores w/ the 3d v cache, correct and not just 6? That is my concern, I'm worried the 7900 might be the worst for gaming.

@zkilla4611 Жыл бұрын

@@fluphybunny930 Technically. It would lise in the games that done benefit from v-Cache and would prefer higher clocks.

@ij6708 Жыл бұрын

The 7900X3D might have a two 6-core CCD design so therefore only 6 cores would have the stacked 3D v-cache

@AnotherAnonymousMan 8 ай бұрын

As far as I've seen this is the most comprehensive software stack set up instructions on KZfaq.

@robloxteam9890 Жыл бұрын

Always enjoy a good Leo build.

@CreamPolo Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this review. :)

@srdjanvincic597 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Leo for this thorough test. It really gives an objective insight. Maybe you could also consider making a comparison of 7950X3D vs 7900 non X model.

@robertsimon8046 10 ай бұрын

Its big difference

@darkl3ad3r Жыл бұрын

This was a GREAT video. Seriously the best technical analysis of this tech love it.

@bhblais Жыл бұрын

Two thoughts: [1] Real good job, very detailed Mr. Leo. I took many screenshots. And [2] I have all my components and waiting to get my hands (hopefully tomorrow) on the 7950X3D... and boy oh boy I wonder what "instructions" will be packaged with the CPU. I would not be surprised that AMD's (Leo's) instructions might not be bundled with the CPU... How many people will install it without checking all these new steps... (eg. installing drivers, BIOS update, etc)? I am betting a fair number. And many will complain that performance is just not there... I am sure that in time Windows will automate a few things, and BIOS revisions will be more commonly pre-installed... but for a few months, it might get hectic out there...

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

I would hope that AMD includes a QR code on the CPU box that takes you to an installation guide, but doubt they will. Update your BIOS, install your chipset drivers, then check and double check! Leo

@historianfabulousio5128 Жыл бұрын

Glad I wasnt the only one taking screenshots for future reference ! always a straight to the point review with Leo, im getting a bit tired of some of the bigger channels and the constant thumb nails with things on fire etc etc.

@zodwraith5745 Жыл бұрын

How many people will buy it without watching a guide cause they just wanted "the best" but don't follow tech reviews? Once again AMD can always figure out a way to flub good products with questionable tactics and software.

@bstulic Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see results with and without 3d cache driver and optimizer, just to see if AMD did good job there

@alphaomega1969 Жыл бұрын

I have to say your video quality is very good.

@datapro007 Жыл бұрын

Great review

@mworld Жыл бұрын

It's good you are showing the caveats of getting things wrong and then how it should look/work if it's correct.

@kenankalav5949 Жыл бұрын

Amazing Leo managed to unbox this one without thowing the packaging across the room in disgust.

@rhydlew Жыл бұрын

The reason for the discrepancy between Luke's chip and Leo's is brilliantly explained in DerBauer's recent video

@bobsmithson8592 Жыл бұрын

Nicely done Leo😊

@cikou8076 6 ай бұрын

Hi Sir thnkyou for all the videos. I always watch. I want to build a pc: but i am confused: it will this cpu: ryzen 9 7950x3d or the intel i9 14900k with the master motherboard. I will use it for heavy programming(coding) and i also want to game: think with the 4080 or 70ti Wich would you recommend? I like to hear.😊

@garryherriman4222 25 күн бұрын

Thanks Leo, great video. I'm upgrading from an I9-11900k and have a rtx 4080 and the same asus motherboard featured in this video. Very helpful and is going to be my go to resource for getting everything up and running 👍

@powermaster5004 Жыл бұрын

Leo that’s a serious shift you put in there man.

@darknessblades Жыл бұрын

Could you test if a AM5 contact frame would improve the thermals? they are quite cheap. thermalright sells them for about 10 euro

@jamiewilliams1410 Жыл бұрын

Does this CPU see any improvement in Win11 with it's better scheduling of the CPU tasks or is it identical to Win10 results.

@geofftatesmate7748 Жыл бұрын

That’s a cracking processor. Not so sure about all that software shenanigans mind you. Thanks Leo

@jmel23515 Жыл бұрын

can you try turn based games like stellaris or civ 6 on these 3 chips? sim a certain number of turns and measure the time

@paincrayonsyt6962 10 ай бұрын

How do you have it before it release

@PcKolog Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this beautifully detailed content. The question on my mind is this. While playing games (1080P / 1440P), I want to stream over the GPU (RTX 4080 )and record video on the CPU at the same time. According to this scenario, should I buy 7950X or 7950X3D?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

A tough decision! Leo

@PcKolog Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech Actually, what I'm trying to ask is, can the 7950X3D run that much performance with x264 overhead? It's really ridiculous that no one has tested this.

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

@@PcKolog The only way to be sure is to try it. Part of the answer will come down to parking the game on the 3D CCD however recording/streaming might go better using the IGP in which case the CPU won't be handling both tasks. Leo

@TucoRamires Жыл бұрын

Nice review.

@gurugamer8632 Жыл бұрын

For video editing in apps like adobe premiere , after effects and DaVinci Resolve which CPU is the best for performance? I9 13900K , 13900KS or AMD 7950X or AMD 7950X3D?

@peoplez129 Жыл бұрын

Basically you will get the same performance from a 7800X3D as a 7950X3D, when it comes to gaming, because both will only run on the same 8 core module with the VCACHE. You also don't have to worry about it choosing the wrong module in the 7800X3D, because there is only one module.

@skstefan985 Жыл бұрын

good job. maybe the 7950x3d will replace my 7700x but i will wait for the 7800x3d reviews

@freddinklemeyer8261 Жыл бұрын

did You incur any issues with the "Intel XMP 3.0" optimized RAM? does it make a difference not using the "AMD Expo" optimized RAM?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

When RAM misbehaves you feel the results VERY quickly. The G.Skill Z5 I used was superb. Leo

@jasonhenninger8220 Жыл бұрын

What? No angelic choir for the box opening?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

You have to imagine the Ahh-ahh-ahhhhhh Leo

@huzaifavawda8383 Жыл бұрын

Nice one Leo!

@vm123 Жыл бұрын

So high idle power consumption is still a thing? Thought it was software issues...

@MichaelAddlesee Жыл бұрын

Elsewhere I've seen KGL described as Known Good List.

@lordspam2721 Жыл бұрын

Power consumption and temps are fantastic! that said, I am staying with my 5800X3D for now. it does what I need and paired with a 4080, it sips power while i work and fits all of my gaming needs.

@melkert81 Жыл бұрын

Jeeze, that card is beastly. Nice to see the 5900x holding up well.

@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын

Interestingly in Hitman I've seen where the 7950X 3D fairs a bit better over the i9 with a 7900XTX

@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын

For myself, someone who's worked in and around Game/Software development its interesting nobody is talking about how amazing these 3D-V Cache chips still are at UNREAL ENGINE and Unity Engine compiling and game development.

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын

How good is it?

@hiimcortana1568 Жыл бұрын

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat basically almost same perf as 7950x.. and at least 30-40% lower power consumption from other reviewers data

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын

@@hiimcortana1568 I asked specifically for unreal/unity actually....

@bellshooter Жыл бұрын

Hardware Unboxed simulated the 7800X 3D by disabling the non 3D CCU and achieved even better gaming results. Sacrificing thread based tasks.

@blkspade23 Жыл бұрын

However they didn't mention anything about the chipset drivers , XBOX game bar, or the fact that the CPU should be left on the balanced power profile. It wouldn't be far fetched to think any one of those potentially missed steps artificially degraded performance in normal operation. When all those things are done, the 2nd CCD is dynamically disabled as opposed to needing bios changes and reboots.

@bellshooter Жыл бұрын

@@blkspade23 There is absolutely nothing the guys at HB don't know about comparative CPU and GPU testing. I would trust their results more than any other reviewers.

@inlovewithmycar7085 Жыл бұрын

That was an absolutely brilliant article leo. I love the approach. Much more organic.

@jeffdmsl Жыл бұрын

If you want peak gaming performance or want a powerful cpu with cores/threads exclusively in a small form factor build - 7950X3D is great, due to lower power consumption and temps. 13900K is limited to the bigger side of SFF that can support a 280 aio. 7950X3D on a low profile air cooler in smaller cases is a good pairing.

@03chrisv Жыл бұрын

Intel released the 13900 non k variant this year that has a sizable lower TDP without much performance loss so it's great for SFF cases. Considering the very premium price of the 7950x 3D I believe the 13900/13900k is the better option overall since its about $120 cheaper, offers similar gaming performance and remains number 1 in content creation software. The 7950x 3D is great, but it's not the "one to rule them all" like I was hoping it would be.

@jeffdmsl Жыл бұрын

@@03chrisv SFF alone is already a premium with more expensive PSU's, and Motherboards. If you're in the market for an i9/Ryzen 9 and SFF, $120 difference shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Though the i9 13900 will draw less power than the K variant, it'll perform noticably worse in gaming with its locked clocked speed(vs. K) and 5600mhz ram. The 7950X3D can undervolt better with PBO2 CO, boosting performance while reducing temps and power at the same time. You can't go wrong with either CPU, but I'd take the 7950X3D because it's faster. That extra cache greatly helps the 1% lows for 240hz/360hz high refresh rate titles - Apex legends, Valorant, R6 Siege and also it'll greatly benefit MMO games like the 5800X3D did. If you're on 4K, the 13900 makes sense. I agree it's definitely not the "one to rule them all", it's more of a niche product IMO. You're getting the fastest and power efficient gaming cpu and a high thread cpu that gets you roughly 95% the way there in productivity. It'll tick those boxes out there for someone.

@joshua_1_9__ Жыл бұрын

When are we getting a shirt with Leo on it in the store?

@nicholash8021 Жыл бұрын

Your 7950X is pulling only 36,369 in Cinibench? Something is definitely NOT right. Mine is around 39,200. Try setting -30 on curve optimizer but set your FClock max to -350 and try -325, then -300, and so on until it's unstable. Watch your CPU temps drop 20C, just like the 3D part. If you're running that low, it makes all your other numbers suspect. Thanks for including some of Luke's numbers.

@rufusmctavish1164 Жыл бұрын

Watched this twice now. Have to give you guys a lot of praise for this analysis. One of the best up today 👍🏻

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

Good Lord, a glutton for punishment. Leo

@JamesBond-qv2ht Жыл бұрын

If I am using my PC as a dedicated VR gaming rig, can just disable the non-cache cores in the BIOS and avoid all of the drivers and other software steps?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

The drivers allow the system to determine how the workloads are allocated to the CPU cores. If you want to experiement, the easiest way imo is to use some new options in the BIOS to force the system to prioritise the CCD with extra cache. and then switch it to the regular CCD. No need to disable any cores at all. Leo

@TheJacklikesvideos 7 ай бұрын

if you are using your PC as a dedicated VR gaming rig, this is the wrong processor for you, and you should just buy the half you want to use.

@KYPMbangi 10 ай бұрын

Exactly my reaction with that block of foam when I got mine haha, yea like at least they could have at least included more free stuff.. like this stuff aint cheap

@arya_rafli Жыл бұрын

Ready for Ryzen 9 7950X3D VS i9 13900KS

@yol_n Жыл бұрын

If AMD wants to increase the quality of this chiptset driver will it happen as updates to the BIOS or as updates to windows? If it's BIOS updates that will make this processor more troublesome than it's worth.

@qm3ster Жыл бұрын

imagine not wanting to update your UEFI firmware :v

@TheHottabych23 Жыл бұрын

Luke's 7550x seems like overclocked with pbo 2, very similar results

@overclockingdemon7179 Жыл бұрын

A great processor and fantastic work from AMD, but surely that setup procedure has to be an issue for most people?

@revog7 Жыл бұрын

i had high hopes when i saw the older cpus getting compared then when the game graphs came out i was saddened by not seeing all the cpus at 1440p. i was like theirs hope then nope. 😂

@BlueBerry-kh3lx Жыл бұрын

I don't have 3D V cache Performance Optimizer, how do I download it?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

It is part of the chipset driver package

@turanaydin8929 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been missing cache for a while but I reckon it’s the missus taking it.

@qm3ster Жыл бұрын

What's peculiar about Tiny Tina's Wonderland? It's recently become a benchmarking staple. Has there been some controversy? P.S: 3D-CCDs-only edition when?

@antoniocepaj7544 Жыл бұрын

I just want APU that has 12- i-gpu RDNA2/3, 8 cores, 8/16 L2 cache, 64 L3 cashe , even if it has to be Cooled with 280mm AIO. Is that hard to produce on AM5 platform ?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are describing a Next-Gen console SoC Leo

@Hugh_I Жыл бұрын

Well the pheonix APUs like the 7940HS come with 12 RNDA3 CUs and have 8 cores. They have 8MB L2, but only 16MB of L3 cache. They certainly don't need anything but your standard box cooler. I would be surprised if anything else happens than AMD releasing those as 7000G chips for AM5 at some point, once they saturated demand in mobile. It wouldn't be hard for AMD to put an extra cache die on those -if they designed them for that to work - but I doubt they're gonna.

@antoniocepaj7544 Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech if that was case KitGuruTech, that wasn't my plan. Which means I'l have to get 7600, + some cheap GPU that dosen't have any issues.

@argesyalcn5881 Жыл бұрын

I love the word chiplet.

@larwiemcdonnel5322 Жыл бұрын

Great performance from amd. But that software section melted my brain.

@maxsmith108 Жыл бұрын

I know people like the gaming performance, but I think the best quality of this cpu is the productivity AND the gaming performance. Obviously last gen the 5800x3d took a hit to performance that didn't make it viable for serious prod work. But what do I know lol. High idle power draw as he talks about at the end is also a bit irksome, reminds me of the 7900 gpus in a way.

@gameplayfirst6548 5 ай бұрын

For pure gaming the 7800X3D is great, silent and easy to keep cool, but if you want a more flexible setup go with the 14900K as it delivers in games and all applications, including single core tasks, emulation and AI. Power consumption in idle and low workload is also better, so if you surf or do light office work on the system a lot, you may even save money compared to AMD. Task scheduling is much better on a 14900k than on the 7950X3D, so Intel saves you a lot of headaches. There are a few games that also have problems with E-Cores and could profit from something like Process Lasso, but you don't need it all the time to get the best performance.

@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын

Lower TDP isn't bad either.

@darren253 Жыл бұрын

I really would like to do AM5 build but the expense is off putting.

@justindavis7600 Жыл бұрын

Amazing silicon design from amd. Very impressive !

@jamiewilliams1410 Жыл бұрын

Amazing would have been if the V cache was on both CCDs, they had the ability to release something amazing and chose high end mediocrity. I would have gladly paid more for a 7900X3D gaming CPU.

@danijelb.3384 5 ай бұрын

Isn’t there issues with Windows picking the wrong cores for gaming?

@runikpanel1179 Жыл бұрын

These chips are just going to get hotter and hotter. Do wonder if stacking silicon is going to lead to unrelability with the potential of movement inside the chip.

@nateTrh Жыл бұрын

Did you not look at the charts and other reviews? These chips run cooler than the non 3d models and draw less power than them too. Not to mention how they also arn't running up to 100° like Intel chips while consuming almost half the power under heavy load. Processors don't even run that hot and hard during gaming anyways so it'll probably be fine.

@iikatinggangsengii2471 Жыл бұрын

all those seasonics

@GSP-76 Жыл бұрын

The early gaming benchmarks aren't giving us the total picture of the 3d CPUs yet...wait for a few driver and BIOS updates and performance will definitely go much higher and more consistently across games.

@sunfy8 Жыл бұрын

'I still don't know what is KGL stands for' 😅😅 Me too...

@johnbryce8267 Жыл бұрын

from what I'm seeing and hearing about this processor,... it is a throwback (in design terms) to the "Dual Pentium" processor days,... only AMD jammed them both into one socket... and is actually quite a bargain in this manner!! It's a R7 7800X3D ($449) and a R7 7700X (~$340?). So... at it's retail price of $699 You're getting the value of ~$789 (not to mention the efficiency of them being in one chip) and You only need an AM5 motherboard with one socket.

@craighutchinson1087 Жыл бұрын

I really like your content

@chrisbullock6477 Жыл бұрын

Its also safe to assume AMD's engineers already did years of R&D and weighing the pros and cons. Hence the final result was 3D Cache only on one of them. I also think its safe to say the purchasing public is already full educated enough to know what they are getting with a 3D V-Cache cpu and are getting it for one specific reason.

@TSEDLE333 Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere else that they tested in both CCDs and that didnt bring anything all that great to the table, so they chose to put it only in one instead of in 2...maybe to keep prices as low as they can.

@hiimcortana1568 Жыл бұрын

@@TSEDLE333 I mean...most games can't use more than 8 cores right now so crippling the clock on another ccd by adding vcache that won't be used as much might be worse.. Current approach can get us the best of both world for gaming and heavy workloads.

@balla2172 Жыл бұрын

In other tests it's on average its a bit faster in some areas and worse in others

@Dark88Dragon Жыл бұрын

Just wait for the cheaper 7800x3D and be totally blown away by its gaming performance, beatin a 13900KS muahaha

@ernestkarapetyan1599 Жыл бұрын

AMD Ryzen 7950X3D the best low-profile coolers?

@gurugamer8632 Жыл бұрын

When will 7950 be replaced by new next generation and will that use 3nm technology?

@KitGuruTech Жыл бұрын

That would be Zen 5 which is due 'by 2024' so either this year or next.

@gurugamer8632 Жыл бұрын

@@KitGuruTech when do you think zen 5 will be released in 2024, which month?

@macd7743 Жыл бұрын

Even if processors are usually mostly GPU limited at 4K, I'd still like to see the results for 4K. For those like me, the most relevant results for gaming are going to be those that represent how I game-4K. I know that results are technically most interesting for lower resolutions, but there are differences in plenty of scenarios at 4K, and 4K is a future resolution even if it has been around a long time (I've been gaming at 4K for about 10 years!). This is nevertheless a great review. Thank you 👍 (Edited to add deserved kudos.)

@funplaymix7710 Жыл бұрын

Same here

@toddsmith1083 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like 4k gaming is basically a tie between a 13900k and 7950x3d?

@24DEX Жыл бұрын

100W in between .....auch!!!

@toddsmith1083 Жыл бұрын

@@24DEX 100W in between?

@24DEX Жыл бұрын

@@toddsmith1083 255w intel vs 155 amd.....it’s not a tie...not by a long shoot!

@toddsmith1083 Жыл бұрын

@Milcu Robert Appreciate the info! I missed that first time around. Excuse my ignorance as I'm new to high end gaming PC's, but why is an extra 100w THAT big of a deal assuming you have sufficient cooling for the 13900k? 100 extra watts can't amount to a hill of beans as far as your monthly electric bill. I mean, my home theater between my subs, amp for my mains, etc.....is close to 10,000 watts combined, so an extra 100 watts doesn't seem like anything from that perspective. What am I missing here and again, excuse my ignorance as I'm new to this hobby as I'm researching/buying components at the moment for my first build. Thanks!

@leonardoruiz5994 Жыл бұрын

@@toddsmith1083 You are absolutely right Power draw froM a desktop is not that a big deal when idle AMD processor actually draws more energy so that argument of power consumption I believe is not that a big issue

@jeffscomp Жыл бұрын

Kind of high priced and hard to setup to work like yours. Wait a few months it will be half price 🙂

@TheJacklikesvideos 7 ай бұрын

commenting on black friday, and the processor dropped from $700 to $600 recently.

@bigarmydave Жыл бұрын

Where are the 7900x3d reviews?

@vigilant_1934 Жыл бұрын

AMD sent out the best CPU (7950X3D) for testing. The only reviewers that are testing the 7900X3D have to buy it themselves.

@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын

IIRC Luke used an undervolt to make his Ry. 9 7950x more power than thermally limited to obtain his scores, while it's a sensible thing to do, the danger is golden samples being sent to reviewers who habitually overclock, so their results are rarely achievable by normal customers. Having just installed an 5800x3D upgrade, then discovering Gigabyte's BIOS utility was ignoring important new updates, I got to enjoy the amazing power efficiency of cores locked to base clock, which lead me to see 40C on Time Spy CPU benchmark and the power staying at 25-30w as if it were a laptop running on battery :)

@zodwraith5745 Жыл бұрын

7900xtx sent to reviewers were _absolutely_ golden samples. Very few end users have been able to hit the same boost speeds shown in reviews. For this reason alone it's important to watch small channels that have to buy their own hardware.

@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын

@@zodwraith5745 I noticed differences at the time, but the base & max boost are generally conservative. My 5800x3D runs 3.6 base and a max boost on 4 of the cores, not just the best 2 of 4.55, which is well above the advertised spec on the box 3.4 & 4.5. AMD don't advertise the theoretical max boost because it happens for too short a time to see it, which lead to complaints about Zen2. However I don't see those boosts in games, the system is just handling the demand in its stride and when ST where max boost can occur the core isn't heavily utilised, so frequency looks low. FWIW the 7950x has an official 4.5/5.7 but all core boost can briefly hit 5GHz in the right conditions and 5.85GHz max boost has been reported. That doesn't mean you'll see that frequently in normal use. Mine's generally below 50C gaming with occasional spikes to 60C. My point is under volts are over-clocking and there's no guarantee that it's reproducible on any particular untested CPU. If they meet the specs on stock settings then all is well. I've seen so many claims Zen3 was hard to cool but my experience is the absolute opposite.

@zodwraith5745 Жыл бұрын

@@RobBCactive I wasn't talking about Zen4, I was talking about RDNA3, which has been wildly variable. If only AMD made as good of GPUs as they do CPUs. Nvidia is the one that needs to be knocked down about 3 notches, not Intel.

@RobBCactive Жыл бұрын

@@zodwraith5745 OK, I assumed it was habit as the video and my comment was about the Zen4 CPU line. The product numbers are too similar. RDNA3 launch has had problems, either the drivers can improve alot or a silicon revision will bring the expected performance.