American Bass XFL-12 -vs- Skar Audio VXF-12

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American Bass XFL-12 -vs- Skar Audio VXF-12

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Who scored 141.5 decibels in the SPL results of my 6th Order Bass Reflex Subwoofer Box Enclosure for the SKAR Audio EVL-12, American Bass XFL 12 & Skar Audio VXF-12. This enclosure is built for Sound Quality; with a frequency response of 25-70. All comments and questions are welcomed in the comment section below. Affiliate Links to items are in the description. Thank You.
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@thegreatgonzo458 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the wisdom!

@ParkerTheBasshead 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always!! When it comes to a budget sub it sure is hard to beat the XFL!

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Parker 🤟 I agree 100% 💯

@30jspecial 4 жыл бұрын

Oh nice working together . That's great

@ivansmusicandvideoguy2038 3 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend the kickers l7 or the xfl

@TikTak83BaccW Жыл бұрын

@@ivansmusicandvideoguy2038 depends on wat u looking for.

@dayjeremy 3 ай бұрын

@@ivansmusicandvideoguy2038 I have a hard time recommending Kicker at all. They’re not what they used to be and for the money there are much better options these days.

@waltlivernois6241 9 ай бұрын

Ur cap bank I got and man ur 💯 true works80 percent better

@LloydGTaylorJr 2 ай бұрын

I have 2 Skar VXF D2 12's in my grand prix. My subs face up in a 34hrtz tuned box

@darrellfether8964 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, picked up some Skar amps today and your video locked it down to get a matching subwoofer.

@eddiew1981 4 жыл бұрын

just found your channel today and watched a few videos. really like your presentation, analysis and honesty on what you think of the products.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the compliment 👍 And welcome to the channel 🤟

@chuccdiesal4241 Жыл бұрын

Yeah both are good but I have AB and it do numbers and I’ve never had a problem no stink or distortion

@MrBgtyma 9 ай бұрын

Had AB boxed turned differently not sure if that would make a difference but always should be an apples to apples comparison

@amanteapasionado6836 9 ай бұрын

With a QTS of 0.32 on the VXF, it definitely wont like a sealed box. A QTS under .40 is gonna perform better in a ported box. A QTS of .40-.80 is gonna perform better in a sealed box. And QTS higher than .08 is for Infinite baffle.

@Luminous.Dynamics 7 ай бұрын

Do you know if the late 2000s model Kicker Comps do better in sealed vs ported? My old man has three C10 comps, sealed, but they sound pretty quiet. QTS on Kicker's site says .585 for the 10" svc c10

@aveon9646 4 ай бұрын

2 pairs of SVR-2X12D4 | Dual 12" 3,200 Watt SVR Series Loaded Vented blew out on me less then 1 year nd half I’m switching to American bases

@RajunCajun1 7 ай бұрын

With those results, I'm second-guessing about going to buy a sub that costs $499!

@xguy7577 4 жыл бұрын

I really believe that for the money; American Bass. The build quality, sound, value. That's a pretty big price break between the two.

@Grimsterrr Жыл бұрын

3 years later, these subs are priced pretty much identically now.

@ponokanaka 4 жыл бұрын

Love both these monsters!

@djkeys415s Жыл бұрын

Had to go back and wach this video and sa THAKS AGAIN!!!! this vid.was the deciding factor that made me purchas the xfl 1544 in my new build for my new burch box for 415s!!!!!

@jamessalcido4667 Жыл бұрын

I want to see the American Bass XFL against the Torce Force 12. It almost looks like a copy of the XFL

@Luminous.Dynamics Жыл бұрын

It may look similar but it's different

@Raymo2u 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see the American Bass HD12 up here soon...the specs and price look mighty tasty

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip 👍

@kidsavage86 3 жыл бұрын

Bro that hd is power hungry and hcca level if powered right

@jeremyhall5970 4 жыл бұрын

I believe the vxf can that more power so yes the same way the XFL did against the EVL the VXF is in the same position now

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

I think this is a valid argument 👍

@heavy12inchsub79 Жыл бұрын

Just ordered 2 vxf 12 d2 trying to wired. 5 ohm pray I don't smoke it on the smart5 bass

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

As long as you set your games properly they should be okay

@heavy12inchsub79 Жыл бұрын

@BudgetBassHead thanks brother 🙏. Got 2 avatar stu d1 12s still kinda new just sitting but they can't be wired to. 5 ohm wasn't thinking about it b4 getting it, should have got d2s..🤦🏻‍♂️ don't want to spend more so went ro try the vfx d2s

@LloydGTaylorJr 2 ай бұрын

9 inches from the trunk opening sounds better

@RyanBassForLife 4 жыл бұрын

Love your box build skills your good.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@jimt5683 4 жыл бұрын

Hope this isn't true, but I notice you turn the bass knob to max on xfl and in the vxf you had it half way.

@rashad5286 3 жыл бұрын

The bassknob that comes with the audio pipes amps seem to max out before the halfway point for some reason. The only reason I know this is because I owned two APCL 1500's from them.

@masonguevara291 3 жыл бұрын

@@rashad5286 yeah my audiopipe apmi bass knob maxed out halfway lol

@joshuakemp1439 3 жыл бұрын

Thats amazing and thank you for they way you explain you enclosure. I understand more now because of your info. Thank you

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome 🙂

@luke_784lowfrequency8 4 жыл бұрын

I like em both!!

@lydellbell4638 3 жыл бұрын

Learning alot Great information

@eremundo 4 жыл бұрын

Love both subs

@jaredthompson9411 3 жыл бұрын

I think if you build a box to specs for both brands and let the skar break in the vxf would win.

@TecniclyAwsm 3 жыл бұрын

It would. I'll say I am a lil biased because my whole system is Skar but they do come new very tight and get much better after break in and the box he uses is a cubic foot too big for the skar and almost perfect for the AB by man. specs.

@TecniclyAwsm 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention when I was looking up the box spec for AB its price is now $270 just like the Skar.

@DigitalNomad9209 3 жыл бұрын

Of coarse the VXF needs a break in period! The AB will get loud, but the Skar after break in will get louder and be hella cleaner on top of it. I stopped running AB years ago because of their poor sound quality.

@Carlos-co8ss 2 жыл бұрын

Please. Do your research. AB XFL is 91db efficient for a 15 . Higher sensitivity is more bass on less power. Also the glue used on the 3" coil is better than the skar which gives the XFL higher heat transfer capabilities which keeps it going past thermal compression.

@Carlos-co8ss 2 жыл бұрын

3 db higher on the XFL is like double the power output on the same power which shows just how well made the low distortion driver is (XFL).

@bailey2517 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a big fan of the Skar VXF subs but I've always heard AB subs have great sound quality.

@Luminous.Dynamics Жыл бұрын

XFLs dont sound bad. Problem was probably something else you had going on; box, or equipment

@paulturner8394 3 жыл бұрын

Put the right power and the correct box for that vxf it will absolutely slaughter that AB. Not sure where you got those specs but the xfl is only 1000rms

@paulcherry1520 3 жыл бұрын

On there website it is 1000rms they never updated there listing as the xfl is a new model and has 220 oz magnet and 1500rms now

@Reno12366 3 жыл бұрын

My xfl are 1500 rms a piece and 3k peak

@Luminous.Dynamics 2 жыл бұрын

Its 1500 watts rms but tell me why my XFL is on a JP 2300w rms amp and doing amazing? Its a beast, thats why.

@amordeweso Жыл бұрын

From American bass it’s 1500/3000…..and yeah both in their correct boxes it’s not slaughtering shiii😅

@marktolosa428 2 жыл бұрын

I got 2 12 inch skar vxf's on a skar rp3500 and my shit slaps hard💪

@lifeonadime4703 4 жыл бұрын

Man I like both brands. Both make good subs and somebody would be pleased buying either sub. I could for SURE see the vxf needing some break in and doing higher numbers. I’d love to see that spl test redone in a few months just for pure curiosity. Kinda not a complete fair comparison considering the ab is broken in already

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Fair enough! I can see where you coming from with that.

@lifeonadime4703 4 жыл бұрын

BudgetBassHead still a GREAT layout and love how you show every different trick of trying to get the most possible db’s. Keep up the good content!

@biguzivert 11 ай бұрын

Skar doesn’t make subwoofers, they buy in bulk and resell at 3-4x the price

@lifeonadime4703 11 ай бұрын

@@biguzivert and they are still cheaper and better than most any other sub in their price bracket. They don't make them but it's still their brand name on it. Sundown is one of the few that don't use a build house and while they are amazing subs, they are to expensive. If im going to spend that type of money, I'm going to go FI audio.

@arnoldsalazar5851 3 жыл бұрын

I would let the Skar break in, and see what numbers you get after.👍

@ssskinner28 3 жыл бұрын

I have a vxf12 dual 2 ohm and only an rp1500 amp with 250 amp alt and all 1/0 wire and big 3 and it is insane and its still in skars pre-made box for another week

@aandrewbrown 2 жыл бұрын

I’m putting in a vxf 12 on a taramps smart 3k with 2 pairs of jbl 6500 C’s on a TS-400x4 I’m also having a buddy build me a 6th order box too so I can’t wait to hear it. Putting it in the 29th of Jan.

@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a n ABC b ox from the old days

@6wil0liam2 Жыл бұрын

Meters not even in the kick when metering the xfl. It's closer to the center console then the kick panel.

@Alllrise 3 жыл бұрын

I’m a go with the vxf, they play lows way better in my opinion.

@Jaydogg209 Жыл бұрын

Is the Audiopipe TXX-BDC4 even on that level? I mean for the price don't that audiopipe hit lows good too? I'll be running 1600 watts rms.

@513ohio9 4 жыл бұрын

American Bass for the win stiff or not compare dollar to dollar. Appreciate you showing people the difference between ported box and 6th order box 👍

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Not a problem. I appreciate the compliment. 🤟

@cityboy1957 4 жыл бұрын

In my experience, a 6th order enclosure is ported in a chamber at the front of the sub and ported in a chamber at the rear of the sub. The diagram of the enclosure in this video looks more like a T-line enclosure.

@shawnst.martin7526 Жыл бұрын

the xfl defiantly is not a sq sub by no means the vxf perfect in my book for sq and pounding it out with a clear sound

@Luminous.Dynamics 7 ай бұрын

Depends on enclosure too. XFLs can sound good or bad depending on that, its never sub alone

@shawnst.martin7526 7 ай бұрын

I have two vxf-12 dual 4-ohm in a 2 to 1 ratio 4th order tuned for 43hrtz 153 db on windshield 2 skar rp-3500 .1d strapped at 2ohms on them all crammed into 2014 camero

@Luminous.Dynamics 7 ай бұрын

@@shawnst.martin7526 Yeah but like I said, all depends on the enclosure used for each type of sub. An XFL can sound really good in a well designed enclosure too, theres too many myths about their SQ being deemed bad or poor, which is simply untrue. Same with the VXF, it technically is not a legitimate SQ driver, but it can sound very good

@dabeardsmen3621 3 жыл бұрын

Skar needs more power thats all.

@559bass5 3 жыл бұрын

I have my single vxf 12 in an aero ported box tuned at 33 hz and it slams hella hard I agree with you

@1maccin 4 жыл бұрын

Spl is nice but I like lows and 48hz is a little high for my liking and by the looks of it the skar as well

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

This is just middle-band + cabin gain peek frequency. This is a daily build. Respose from about 27-70Hz

@boominc0420 4 жыл бұрын

The American bass is a way better built subwoofer than the skar.

@tyler238 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’d agree... the vxf is no slouch tho

@kriptic22 4 жыл бұрын

better sub by far. That and you can beat the american bass to death without issues. Been pounding on 1 in my truck for over 2 years and it takes alot more power then its rating.

@tammyforbes2101 3 жыл бұрын

American bass has always made decent stuff for a reasonable price! And they want rip you, skarbage just might! Never ever buy skarbage it ain’t worth it to much trouble! It’s a fine product it’s a Chinese knockoff of sundown basically but with less then zero customer service and dirty doings!

@gabriellittle5508 3 жыл бұрын

Tammy Forbes sundown is made in China lmao

@BenaresDarkness 3 жыл бұрын

Better? You are a complete idiot too, the vxf is way better than the xfl.

@leestrong5168 4 жыл бұрын

If you go on line and look up subwoofer bass compation's and look at all the different categories of power size or sub size there sure ain't very many A.Bass subs in any of them but look at how many skar subs are holding way more 🏆 So not sure why people still want any of them. I'll put a 12" VXF sub up against any 12" A.Bass sub in the exact same type and size enclosure and not only will they hit just as hard but there way cleaner to listen to when it comes to all types of music becuase there more of true sub for SQ not for SPL like A.Bass. Big diffrence between the 2 Well unless you just listen to rap music only.

@Wildcatky_502 4 жыл бұрын

I would update the pricing on the XFL. it went up to $280 so it would be in the $250 category

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip 👍

@Wildcatky_502 4 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead a option for the new $250 category.. Crossfire c5 12"($240). I think it will become king of the $250 category

@Luminous.Dynamics 4 жыл бұрын

Nah man, the 15" XFLs are going for 199.99 right now, just bought one

@rashad5286 4 жыл бұрын

@@Luminous.Dynamics How you like it ? I have 2 rn tuned to 32hz on 5k and shit SMACKS.

@Luminous.Dynamics Жыл бұрын

@@rashad5286 Late reply but I love it. Its loud and clean and hits lows no problem. I get tons of people always telling me how loud it is when I drive by. I have just one XFL 15" on a D4S JP23 @ 1ohm, but I believe my enclosure helps a lot. It is 4.25 cu feet, 8" aeroport tuned to 32hz, sub is firing forward with port firing to the side, seats down. Still curious about trying a 15" Skar VXF in the same box, on same amp. I'd still keep my XFL in my collection though

@m3rk201 4 жыл бұрын

To be honest the vxf is a sq/spl subwoofer. Trying to hit every note cleanly and yet have the spl. American bass xfl is more spl related. Not really same match up. But both amazing subwoofers non less i own a american bass xr and truly love it.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

This comparison was viewer requested. I'm just trying to keep them happy 😁

@m3rk201 4 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead hey man great videos btw i do enjoy these.

@derekvasile6127 2 жыл бұрын

It took over 2 months to break in my vxf12s. They were super stiff new. Even now after over a year they are still stiff

@rashad5286 2 жыл бұрын

Same i've been throwing 6k + at them for almost a year and still stiff

@johndough4338 Жыл бұрын

The vxf is better than a American bass xfl and American bass hd. The vxf sound good in the 12 & 15 inch versions

@derekvasile6127 Жыл бұрын

@@rashad5286 6k for almost a year? Nice I started with 2k. Now I'm at 4k and I think they want more

@derekvasile6127 Жыл бұрын

@@johndough4338American bass is nice but I'm a huge Skar fan. Vxf for the win

@rashad5286 Жыл бұрын

@@derekvasile6127 yesir ! I'm running them on a DD m4b @.5 ohms charging at 15.8. Haven't had any issues and honestly I might throw more power and see how far they'll go 😂. I saw a video of a guy running a taramps smart 5k on each vxf 🤔

@charlesreedy9330 4 жыл бұрын

Emf lowballer 12 on preorder for $132

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Great deal!

@devry1978 4 жыл бұрын

The xfl 12inch was sold out so I bought the xr 12inch instead. I was told it's similar to this subwoofer

@codyc8277 4 жыл бұрын

XR is similar, not quite as loud but better sound quality than the XFL

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you got a good one 😉👍

@terrenperez 4 жыл бұрын

Try the American Bass Elite 12 same as XFL , cheaper basket. Running 1500rms and no issues

@chevydodge88 4 жыл бұрын

Thats weird 3 sites i buy from still have xfl 1222 and 1244

@basslifexxl2391 4 жыл бұрын

all these reviews are spot on. the xr is a damn good sub newer design. i would have went with hd esp for spl.

@Grimsterrr Жыл бұрын

Watching this video in 2023 and these two subs are now priced identically, well, within $6 of each other.

@HashDogg06 4 жыл бұрын

Personally i'd invest in a SMD tool to read the impedance & power at it's highest output to get a better perspective of what is going on, over 1 db is quite a difference so there could be more to it than just getting the Skar broken in.

@tygacleveland4226 2 жыл бұрын

The AB is not 3000 max and not 1500 rms wrong information

@FATHERSOFBASS 4 жыл бұрын

Dope

@Mr.NpK143 4 жыл бұрын

AB for the win!

@thormendez82 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Budget Bass Head for the shout out. Seeing this video I would say definently let the VXF break in 1st. Make it a fair competition. Because I have seen it many times the XFL in the right enclosure and power it can go over 145db. So break in the VXF because it is in for a crazy battle.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Will do 😉💯

@tyler238 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah my neighbor has two 15 xfl in a built box and it cracked his windshield! Shits hit hard hard

@kennethsmith1916 4 жыл бұрын

My vxf put out A LOT more after I got it broken in. Broken in, it got to 130 in just a prefab box. Haven't measured in the custom one yet. (Installed in an extended cab truck) Edit: typo

@derickfarmer7701 3 жыл бұрын

@terrenperez 4 жыл бұрын

Try the American Bass Elite 12. Same as XFL just cheaper basket

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Noted 👌

@Congo802 4 ай бұрын

To much port area for the vxf

@unkowntrooper1657 3 жыл бұрын

this is a joke has to be, I have both subs and the vxfs destroy the xfls and my meter doesnt lie either

@marioarchuleta8723 3 жыл бұрын

Really ... Yeah I agree your videos shows ... Your points an it ain't a lie ,😬🙃🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jkil218 4 жыл бұрын

You sound like Steve Harvey!!

@v3zMedia 3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't put my finger on it but you nailed it. 🤣

@dhunter9705 3 жыл бұрын

My wife said the same thing. I was watching this and she says "why u listening to Steve Harvey"?

@joedonwilson6243 2 жыл бұрын

Yes you are right about the break in on American bass speakers once they get broke in they gonna hit a lot harder at least that's what happened with my American bass speakers at about 100 or so hours and that's real talk! And $100 cheaper! American Bass all the way...

@carbonm2 4 жыл бұрын

I just ordered a vxf15 and it's on the way 😿😿 lol. Also Taramps Smart 3 to replace my EVL 15 and rp1500.1d

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Nice upgrades 😀

@jeremyhall5970 4 жыл бұрын

Dude that will slam you won’t be disappointed

@mrmsblake1 4 жыл бұрын

I love my vxfs

@basslifexxl2391 4 жыл бұрын

good buy on the amp switch however maybe not so good on the sub change. i dont think your going to see a diff much is loudness, more of just diff tones sound better on one and other tones on the other. i think that will be your main difference. the incriminator audio death row cant hardly be beat in irs class 1000rms it take double and not break a sweat. since your not going skar anymore i'd tried another sub. in future try an avatar or DB27

@carbonm2 4 жыл бұрын

@@basslifexxl2391 I was thinking about the deaf bonce 2000w 4000w peak. Actually the vxf15 I would hate for it to be similar. What about the Skar zvxv2 15?

@RyanBassForLife 4 жыл бұрын

I love the xfl I one had 3 15 xfl older models then I switched it to 2 18s soundqubed hdx3 subs that also hit exstreamly loud for 4k watts. Try a soundqubed hdx3.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip 👍

@RyanBassForLife 4 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead I don't think anyone exseped me and Blaze D has tested the 18" soundqubed hdx3 but you can beat Parker D on the 12" soundqubed hdx3 review if you get one soon. They move 36mm one way and 2 18s almost shakes my suv apart. I got over 105 videos on them and had my first one over a year never had to recone ether of them. The 12" is under $279 I do believe I got the 18" for $339 and all size come with a 300 ounce hdc3 motor from the older models!

@Carlos-co8ss 2 жыл бұрын

I have not seen you have the box firing up towards the top of the trunk. That's the best position for deep bass extension and less panel flex sound discoloration. Also test results for each subwoofer on 8 ohms which gives the speaker cone 4x more control to it than when running it at 2 ohms.

@oxnardadrianlopez6684 Жыл бұрын

Double wrong. The amount of rattle of the sub being 8” from trunk lid will definitely flex the panel and color the sound. Also running class d at 8ohms or 2ohms will make negligible differences. The class d amps of now are great at controlling subs even at 1 ohm.

@Facekicker 4 жыл бұрын

The VXF needs more port area than both of those boxes you used. It appears the AB does too. All you proved is that a low port area box worked better for the AB than the Skar.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

🧐 This box was designed to the port area specification "OF" the VXF-12.

@bailey2517 2 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead ok, but manufacturers recommended port area is almost always way too low. Go with 15-17 square inches of port area for 12s. 17-18"sq for 15s. 18-20"sq for 18s. Never go under 12"sq even for 8s.

@BramtheMan1 Жыл бұрын

@@bailey2517 square feet .......

@bailey2517 Жыл бұрын

@@BramtheMan1 Oops lol 🤦😂

@BramtheMan1 Жыл бұрын

@Bailey251 I just ordered 2 12 vxf lol

@UndisputedMRecabo 4 жыл бұрын

So, EVERYWHERE I look, the American bass xfl-12 says 1000rms 2000peak, EVEN IN YOUR OWN LINK, so I'm just curious if they changed ratings or did u get an old/new version or?? YOur channel has a unique presentation that absolutely sounds MATTER OF FACT and not at all opinion pushed, I like it and you, as well as a few other channels all do your thing differently and it makes it awesome to watch and absorb the results from each of you! Thanks for the great content and love for the game, I'm almost 40 and been a bass head since the mid 90s as a kid, the new stuff n bang for the buck is EYE OPENING to say the least!! I've got a 1000cc, 300 amp alt, 0 gauge big 3, full 0 cca to NVX 10 FARAD, Nvx vad27001 on 2 12" vcw124 at 1 ohM in the NVX box made for those subs slot ported 30hz tuned and its definitely VERY healthy, but I still like to look around at stuff in that $200 sub price area that are in the 1500rms range just because, n these two subs I'm very interested in just to see how they'd compare....

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support. Your system sounds dope!

@Reno12366 3 жыл бұрын

My xfls 1244 are 1500 rms and peak 3k

@apocalypse4720 Жыл бұрын

The enclosure would need to be different, not every sub works in the same enclosure, they need to be built for the power you are running as well. The vxf is a more efficient woofer comparted to the xfl so i would take the skar over the american bass. I had xfls and they are a great sub but the vxf is in another class of its own. The vxf compares more to the HD series.

@dontestuckey2200 2 жыл бұрын

Personally all I run is American bass I love em

@X_R-8-ED 3 жыл бұрын

Wish we could hear which is more musical..

@jorgerosario920 3 жыл бұрын

This test is unfair in a few categories Wanda obvious breaking in. Of the speaker did use in the same box for both speakers but the displacement of each speaker affects the tuning I tested both of these out in the same manner what I did is built a box tuned at 36 for both of them with the helm displacement traded from 15 to 20 minutes at low medium and high voltage and wattage for about 2 weeks when I finally tested it Head to Head I got a 142.8 being the highest for the American base for the mid voltage and wattage I got to 138 and for the low I got to 129 for the skar vxf put a scar on low I didn't get much of a difference on low it was a 129.4 for the m edium I got to 139 and for the high I got a 143.9 I used mic's and testing I use SMD products

@grimreaper7862 4 жыл бұрын

But the vfx isn't for spl it says in description

@0420Junket 4 жыл бұрын

I have the American Bass XFL 10” in my sportage and no one thinks all that bass is coming from one 10” speaker. Bang for the buck you cant do much better. It actually seems like it’s getting louder as time goes by (I’ve had it for almost 5 months now). I have a question for you though, my sub says 1500 rms 3000 peak as well. Yet when you search it online you only see them with the 1000 rms 2000 peak rating? I sent a message to AB and Rockville about it (bought it from Rockville). AB wouldn’t reply and Rockville had no clue and said it might be a misprint lol. Do know what this is all about? I’m know there’s a few versions of the XFL.

@ryanroark4024 3 жыл бұрын

Huge fan I always watch all your videos they help a ton when trying to pick these online store subwoofers I have one vxf right now but selling it cause it’s 2ohm and wanna run a double sub set up of either the vxf or the xfl I was wondering which one sounds better in your opinion?

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

It depends. Are you an SQ or SPL guy? I personally like the balance of the VXF

@ryanroark4024 3 жыл бұрын

I like both lol but I think I’m gonna give the xfl a shot been looking at them for a while now and think it’s time to try em out

@basslifexxl2391 4 жыл бұрын

BBH, You should do a heads up with the AB xfl against its equal in sound qubed. they are almost identical. see who the real best for buck winner is. I believe the sound qubed will be a touch louder while the AB a bit more long term reliable. think it would be the hdc4 but not sure if they still make. the brand is def worth challenging for a leader board spot!!! thanks

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! 👍

@basslifexxl2391 4 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead Thanks BudgetBassHead. yea, just sumn i thought you might be interested in. i just stated a channel but am low on money rightnow. any tips or pointers i would sure appreciate. Have you gotten any stuff given to you by the companies? because your content is way better than other a seen which just got gave a new deaf bonce apocalypse 12 a set of arnolds and a set of sylvesters and he doesn't even review or have in his own build even close to that level of stuff.

@basslifexxl2391 4 жыл бұрын

YES, the db-sa305 Im 100% with you on that! thats the one! I wouldnt think twice thats our winner right there!!!

@richardr5888 3 жыл бұрын

Just rewatched this. Still entertains a second time. I have the previous XFL with the smooth surround. Would love to know if this newer version sounds any better to warrant the upgrade. As for mine, I still run the hell out of it for hours long drives. I've had it for 3 years and I'm pretty sure I was clipping it in the beginning and definitely way over the 1000 watt rms rating, yet this thing does not die! It smoked once in the begining- nothing major, but it never did it again (over 3 years ago). Now, it works even harder since I added an Epicenter and still it continues without complaints. I've bought other subs since, but I end up always putting back my trusty XFL. I'm open to try other subs, so Please let me know what will play better (musical?), maybe even louder, given the same 1500 watt amp in a custom 2.5 inch enclosure tuned to 32hz. Suggestions are always appreciated.

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

I've only had the newer version and it performs very well. I have no bad things to say about it. My experience is related to yours; the more I play it, the better it sounds.

@alltorque415 3 жыл бұрын

Which would you recommend more VXF or XFL

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

@@alltorque415 it really depends on what your ear prefer the XFL is geared toward SPL whereas the VXL is a balance between SQ and SPL

@richardr5888 3 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBassHead Well, I pulled the trigger on a 12 inch Skar VXF (they had a 48 hour flash sale). As soon as I install my new Mechman 370 alt and JL RD1500/1, I'll be able to compare my old XFL and the new VXF. Can't wait, but it may take a while because installing that alternator is no easy feat, especially in a Jeep GC with the battery under the passenger seat, plus I'm ripping out all the gear I already installed and running brand new wiring and going from an Audiocontrol Dm608 to the DM810. The more I think of it, the more overwhelmed I feel- but in a good way (and you car audio guys know what I mean), because the end result will be worth it. The only thing I'm not doing is a second battery because I never run my system without the A/C going- the HUMIDITY and HEAT in south Florida will make the sweat pour and soak your clothes just walking from the house to to the car. Lol

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

@@richardr5888 can't wait for the update. Keep us posted🤟

@DJKEYS-br1xh 4 жыл бұрын

I got a 12 box.. now I got CHOES American bass are the scar12 defanently Gona keep you posted.. I gotta learn how to purchase thru your links I'm working on it

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to hear it, bro 😀

@basslifexxl2391 4 жыл бұрын

how much do you want to spend per sub? i wouldnt get the vxf either way.

@racharlesfitts3282 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think the VXF likes higher frequencies to much. It kills the low notes for sure though.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

I agree 💯

@mrmsblake1 4 жыл бұрын

21 to 37 hertz....is the shit

@newmoney8128 Жыл бұрын

I definitely agree I have some older 90s song I play with low notes and man when I tell you it sounds like I'm okay a clock radio when the low bass comes in it's embarrassing.

@tommykammers5246 2 жыл бұрын

Vxf need more power. I know guys putting 3k to 1. I'm about to put 3k to 1. I'm actually going to put 2500 but it is a smart3 but I'm thinking the vxf will do good on 2500 and last longer then if I put 3k to it

@rubee5.043 4 жыл бұрын

It looks like vxf is meant for low end bass. Put out higher db score on the lower frequency then the xfl. Subs definitely built for different purposes and should also let the skar break in

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Seems that everybody is agreeing with this a future video is in the works 🤟

@racharlesfitts3282 4 жыл бұрын

For sure in the description it's a sq/spl sub. I recommend try a a Db drive 3k vs the American bass. I think that would be more of equal comparison between the 2. They would both be ment for Spl. But man great video though.

@ResilientSounds276 9 ай бұрын

Where u buy that box from? I’m looking for a box for a VXF 15

@bubbawubba2307 4 жыл бұрын

That skar has a 300 ounce magnet and the american bass has a 200 ounce magnet. Dont know the amount of power your throwing at it but id say the skar needs more power. Box is everything when it comes to subs and effiency and how it reacts to the box

@kyletimmins7331 2 жыл бұрын

Motor size isn't an indicator of performance. The type of magnet and soft parts do play a part. For example a XFL is just as loud as 40hz as the Sundown Xv2 and has a smaller motor.

@bubbawubba2307 2 жыл бұрын

@@kyletimmins7331 Motor size does play a part with other parts being equal. IE cooling vents, how many spiders, how stiff the spider is, size of coil, how many layers etc. Box size is also going to limit you on power If your box is too big. Back in the day we had tiny magnets on say a series I 15" Fosgate sub and its rated rms was like 70 watts.

@kyletimmins7331 2 жыл бұрын

@@bubbawubba2307 yeah and some subwoofers back then with smaller motors actually got loud without all that extra power. Motor size is only as good as a subs soft parts. However there are 4-5 different magnet materials used for making the motor. One being better than the other. The best material doesn't require the sub to have 300+ ounces of magnet to be as loud as a sub that does. It's science 👍

@bubbawubba2307 2 жыл бұрын

@@kyletimmins7331 I own neo, ferrite, etc I know this

@kyletimmins7331 2 жыл бұрын

@@bubbawubba2307 so have I but that's anyone who uses car audio as a lifetime hobby.

@dylanrap9778 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing that the XFL is louder with a smaller magnet! 100oz difference? Wow

@Juggernaut-fg2up 4 жыл бұрын

dylan rap magnet size is not an indicator of a speakers ability

@dylanrap9778 4 жыл бұрын

@@Juggernaut-fg2up why the different sizes then? I'm jw

@beardedforlife3740 3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanrap9778 it's just design. Motor force matters far more than motor size. Just because it's big doesn't make it stronger

@Dan-rl3dd 4 жыл бұрын

American bass for the win gotta get one

@TheRepos296 Жыл бұрын

I think the both are exceptional subwoofers, however there applications vary, the xfl is more designed towards spl and the skar vxf-12 is sql and spl so the db level will reflect in the score. Overall the skar will and does give the lows better. Thanks for your tutorial. I'm a recent follower. Your videos are very useful and even helped me choose the one I chose between both.

@BudgetBassHead Жыл бұрын

Glad I was able to help.

@sdrtech Жыл бұрын

The skar had higher spl at 35hz also and is more musical

@Reno12366 3 жыл бұрын

I have xfl 12s they loud but I don’t think the sound quality is good . I’m getting a pair of vxf 12s same set up and see who is the best in my opinion . A lot of pol say xfl is better a lot of pol say vxf is better

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

If you want SPL XFL if you want SQ or balance go with the VXF-12

@Reno12366 3 жыл бұрын

I have the xfls and the sound quality not all that to me

@Luminous.Dynamics 7 ай бұрын

Its probably your enclosure.

@bassbrother101 4 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 American bass ( i think you should break in the skar some more and do it again 😁

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking 😆

@FATHERSOFBASS 4 жыл бұрын

You know a lili somethin somethin. Brother... I dont fuck with budget shit for bass but i do mess with it for highs and mids but im impressed with you brother... Im only watchimg cause im bored and tired of the same shit tgis looks cool

@brockfijal9244 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video's you do a good job. I had 2 18" sdr skar and 2 12" sundown SA in my Yukon. The two 12s bumped harder. I want to try 12" American bass. Do you think they will hit as hard as sundown?? I used a Skar Audio SK 1500 watt amp. Now I have 2 x series 15" Sundown and the beat up my truck I kinda wish I put 6 12" SA for look and sound I like the cheaper subs that hit hard. Again thank you for the video's You explain them well.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

I plan to meter the SA and EVL very soon. So stay tuned for the results 🤟

@leestrong5168 4 жыл бұрын

Skar doesn't have a SDR 18" sub so I'm not sure where you got that from maybe its a mistake. They only make 2 types of 18" subs. A EVL or a ZVX I have 1- 18" ZVX and it will out pound any 2 - 12" subs hands down its not even close. In my expadition I have 4 - 12" ZVX and the 1 18" ZVX powered by 2 - 4500 SKAR amps and I'll put it up against anything A.Bass has. American bass is a sub that you pay for what you get. There loud yes but not clean bass at all. We sell both SKAR and A.BASS and I can't tell you how many times folks have bought the A.Bass subs and either they don't last long or they hear a good sub playing music much more cleaner and end up coming back to get other subs. SKAR - ORION - DC AUDIO - or SUNDOWN AUDIO are a much better sub hands down. I've been doing car systems for over 25yrs thats selling them - installing them - Building boxes you name it we do it. I'll take SKAR over A.Bass any day of the wk.

@2013HotNewMusic 4 жыл бұрын

@@leestrong5168 ? "Skar dosen't make a SDR 18" sub. ".. Well WTF is THIS tough guy www.skaraudio.com/products/sdr-18-inch-car-subwoofer?variant=12723210715159. ? Problem with the internet is any dumb ass 12yr old kid can hop on and post a silly comment. Sad.

@chrisminjarez8508 4 жыл бұрын

@@2013HotNewMusic 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I'm sick

@Reno12366 3 жыл бұрын

My boy has 6 sundown sa 12 on a 7500 sundown amp in his wagon Honda and that shit sound ridiculous. Loud and clean bass.. so to answer your question sundown will out due skar and American bass and I’m running the xfl 1244 12s 1500 rms a piece and will still choose sundown cover those 2 anyday

@trevorcampbell1779 4 ай бұрын

What size box is that ?

@BudgetBassHead 4 ай бұрын

I believe it was 2.5 before displacement

@trevorcampbell1779 4 ай бұрын

I have 2 12 Xfl in a Ct sounds ported sub box CT2x12

@trevorcampbell1779 3 ай бұрын

Is it a single 12

@dillonwinke9758 4 жыл бұрын

Why when I look up the specs of the xfl its only 1,000 rms

@richardr5888 3 жыл бұрын

American Bass is notorious for being SLOW to update the specs on their website. The newest version is 1500 watts.

@FJTabb 11 ай бұрын

So which speaker sounds better musically and which one gets the lowest?

@Theyoufeelme 3 жыл бұрын

How many watts did you run on the vxf? If you ran both of these speakers on 1000 watts or 1200 watts. That's simply not fair. The vxf can handle more power then the xfl. With that being said we should compare both speakers at their rated power. I'm positive the skar will outperform the American bass with both speakers properly powered.

@drhclandefiance465 4 жыл бұрын

Which sounded better to you mr budget?

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Overall the XFL sounds better. However, I will allow the VXF to break in a bit more. Fore, the XFL did need a break in period as well. I will revist this test in the near future.

@kennethconklin7786 3 жыл бұрын

I'm running two 12"evl's on a taramp smart 3K everything stock. And beating my car up. I mean BEATIN IT UP!!!! So I'll stick with that 😉

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

Hey whatever makes you happy 😁

@boominc0420 4 жыл бұрын

Put the sa12 in the dual port enclosure and see if it beats the xfl.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

Thats actually a good idea

@1012taz 4 жыл бұрын

Do XFL vs Sundown U series

@raymondrespress50 2 жыл бұрын

Personally the American Bass is a superior subwoofer over the Skar but the Skar is still a sub but don’t push it over rated power unless it is a ZVX or DNR but truthfully AB do make better subs though.🏆👌

@evilinside5984 Жыл бұрын

Parker pushed 5400 watts rms to the skar VXF! The VXF is designed to play a flatter, more balanced bandwidth, hence gives up a little shear Spl. The ZVX was designed to get louder, and less musical. The VFL is designed to be a budget SPL banger, just dont ask it to play 20Hz loudly!

@arnoldsalazar5851 3 жыл бұрын

My man how did you design that? I want to build one for a Soundqubed HDX3-12? Thank you bro love the videos.

@OGmudbone865 2 жыл бұрын

So, the American Bass isn’t the Hawk XFL is it? Because I see all kinds of Hawks for $199 (granted this is 2 years later) but all the regular 3000W XFL AB’s are $299 now. Can’t find one of the regular XFL’s for anything less than $249 & that’s 4 ohm. I have 2 Rockville RXM-T2 amps that ima have to just hook up one to each amp but they’ll have to be 2 ohms cuz I gotta run bridged at 4 to get appx 1550 each.

@jacobwarren6841 4 жыл бұрын

How do you have a 1500watt xfl? Xfls are 1000watts subs.

@BudgetBassHead 4 жыл бұрын

For some reason American bass have not yet updated the description of the new version with the ribbed surrounds.

@UndisputedMRecabo 4 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering the same thing, EVERY SITE EVERYWHERE SAYS 1000RMS

@AR-uj3js 2 жыл бұрын

Can any recommend between these two sun I have which will be a better keep I just have to choose one I have a skar vxf 12" d2 or a fi q with the quad stack magnet 12" d1 both will be on a Orion xtr 2500.1dz box will be built to specs which will be louder and play lower looking for sql

@anlsubbox 3 жыл бұрын

This is not a good comparison. You need to put the subs in the proper size enclosures. Then compare everything. Me being a 20 year box builder it so important to have the proper size enclosure and enough port area.

@BudgetBassHead 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you just work with what you got

@MaulEMal 4 жыл бұрын

I have two elv 12 enclosure in my 2019 nissan altima but they are not wat I thought they were going to be not loud enough.. what can I put in my car thats better I need you help im a new subscriber

@stevensmith5490 4 жыл бұрын

Probably a bigger amp!