American Express REVAMPS Hilton Cards: Good or Bad? Amex Hilton Aspire, Hilton Surpass

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@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

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@wireless1235 8 ай бұрын

The card got better for fewer people. People who travel a lot or are loyalists. But a lot of people had this card simply for the status and for the free night and it got worse for most of us.

@chillinbrotha1072 8 ай бұрын

As an Aspire cardholder, I’m looking forward to the changes because my spending varies. It will allow me to test it to see if it continues to fit my needs. I’m not one of those that immediately go negative when changes happen without testing it first. I always appreciate Sebby’s straightforward facts to help me assess and form my own opinion.

@LisaUhrich 8 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks for the update!

@its_trent_time6119 8 ай бұрын

☂️ I have the Surpass and love it! Gonna keep it because I mostly drive for my trips and vacations and the priority pass wasn’t a big loss for me. The online retail multiplier was a bonus as well!

@RichardHabeeb 8 ай бұрын

Hey Sebby, I always love your videos I've been watching for years now! Friendly suggestion that would help folks like me who keep multi-tasking while watching your videos: put a running list of features of each card as you are talking about them, and maybe the name of the card on the screen. Sometimes I switch away and feel like I have to scrub back in the video because I got lost and wasn't sure if you moved on to talking about a different card or what. Cheers!

@SwanFJQ 8 ай бұрын

⛱️ Another great review. I've been waiting for this video from you😊!

@TheCreditFrog 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ Thanks for sharing your endgame Amex setup Sebby! It’s nice to compare. Mine is the BCE (oldest card can’t cancel), Bonvoy Brilliant, Bonvoy Business, BBP, and Aspire. I was going to get 2 Aspires like you, but I have a lesser tolerance for statement credits so after the change, Idefibitely going with just 1. Curious to know your thoughts! Thanks for your commentary on this news!

@chriskirsch441 8 ай бұрын

I do not mind losing priority pass at all. Not a fan of $200 split into 4 $50 credits for flights. $400 bi-annually may be okay but the real value regardless is Diamond status and the free night. If I can use at least $200 in resort credits and $50 airline I should still come out ahead. I just far prefer credits not broken up.

@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

Agree!

@jimbobimboslice 7 ай бұрын

Same. $50 credit each quarter-ugh! I loved burning through the $200 baggage credit. Now I gotta see how I can get those credits every quarter.

@SpaceForceCommand 8 ай бұрын

@askSebby have you heard if they still offer upgrade bonuses? I'm holding on to an Surpass to maybe go to Aspire but haven't seen any offers 🏖️

@Sustainabilitycyan 8 ай бұрын

🏝️ 🏖️ thanks as always for your content. I agree that the aspire card is as good if not better than before but a bummer for those that relied on the priority pass benefit. Safe travels!

@zacharydingo 8 ай бұрын

I hate that Amex is now splitting up these credits, too 😣

@kartikniyogi 8 ай бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong but we can always find a pretty cheap flight on Southwest like around $50 and book them and then cancel them for a credit.

@brendanfarnand561 8 ай бұрын

Agreed- same with delta e credit

@piper998877 8 ай бұрын

I will miss having the second Priority Pass card. I am frequently connecting at DFW with long layovers. It's nice to stack two hours of Minute Suite time together to get some much needed rest.

@EthanPatrick_CreditCards 8 ай бұрын

Personally I travel a lot, but I’m not a Hilton loyalist and don’t want to track quarterly credits, but the welcome bonuses and free nights are pretty hard to complain about!

@MetroJet2000 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ I have some thoughts on the Surpass. Although I’m going to miss having Priority Pass, I have to say the card got more practical with the $200 Hilton credit. Since we mostly travel within the US and the main benefits of the card stayed intact, I’m keeping it. We generally prefer to stagger our vacations throughout the year anyway (taking one long trip and then waiting 12 months for the next one sucks) and since I’m from Florida, there’s no shortage of quick weekend getaways I can make to snap up the rest of those credits and have a nice time.

@andrewg993 8 ай бұрын

🏖Pleased by the new "midway point" on the aspire having a 30k reward night. Previously had been running two Hilton Business (6x shipping) also hitting the 15k on each was easier that the 60k needed on the Aspire...worked out with business staying untouched! (for now)

@radtechg9 8 ай бұрын

I am happy! Between my husband and I we have 1 Aspire and 3 Surpass accts. Our plan this year was earning FNC in multiple Surpass accts to use next year. So well have 4 total FNC coming to us. With all the extra resort credits ill be bringing all these cards with me on our trip next week to a Resort in Mexico. Going to have the front desk apply charges to each card to get all those credits. We travel 3x a year and sometimes 4. So these charges are Aok for us.

@Flyguy7500 8 ай бұрын

Does the diamond status with this card count toward lifetime diamond status? So say you keep the card for 10 years plus the spend?

@Damastawilliams1916 8 ай бұрын

Hopefully we get some data points on how the flight credit can be used in those unintended ways lol

@dw4421 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ I personally think any kind of couponing and breaking credits down to quarters is always a bad thing. The Aspire went from a “great if you travel at least twice per year” to “have to travel every quarter” for those who are obsessing with min/max. Every business/entrepreneur, by principle, just wouldn’t be happy with more restrictions along with price increase. I do agree with you it’s not that bad and for some people they can see the benefits, but in principle, it’s just not a great change. This becomes “the new norm” one which I’m not really liking at all and one which I hate to see trending.

@rafaelsb83 6 ай бұрын

🏖️ I have the aspire and I don’t like that they break up the credits to quarterly.

@pavanpancholy9727 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ if you have 2 aspire cards, can you use the Hilton resort credit for each card on one stay? How do you go about that?

@joshuamcdonough6890 8 ай бұрын

When is the best time to sign up for the Aspire card? Is it like the Amex Platinum where signing up in the second half of the calendar year gets you double the benefits on the first year, or since the Aspire breaks it up into quarters/semi-annual, it doesn't matter?

@juanmeowmix1530 8 ай бұрын

🌂 Can you use the statement credit from the Surpass card to buy points?

@aaronshang5762 8 ай бұрын

Question: Do I get the Resort Credit if I book for friends/family?

@RedDiomedes 8 ай бұрын

I’m curious if chase reserve will see a change. The 300 travel credit is fantastic but some of the other draws like dash pass, Lyft pink and instacart+ all expire soon.

@allenbilliot2556 8 ай бұрын

I'm curious about which hotel you stayed at while in New Orleans? My go to is Hilton Riverside.

@SpencerJohnsonOfficial 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ For the Surpass specifically, before these changes, I saw no reason for me to personally get it considering I have other cards giving me Priority Pass access already. While a lot of people may be mad about the Aspire changes, I think these changes actually made it into a card I want to apply for. Considering I don't have the Platinum right now, the Clear credit on the Aspire is actually a nice change. Great video as always man!

@AboveAllBeOriginal 8 ай бұрын

fully agree with spencer

@diamondshard2 5 ай бұрын

Do you know if the hilton branded cards are subject to the welcome offer restrictions that if you get the Aspire, you are ineligible for the Surpass bonus in the future?

@ultramet 8 ай бұрын

Clear used to be great but now Random ID check comes up at least 25-33% of the time if you fly frequently. So you have to take out your ID anyway and show it to the TSA agent.

@piere212 8 ай бұрын

First off, is 0.8cpp for Hilton Points insanely aggressive? Seems like that might be good for the high end properties but not overall to deduce value and ROI? Second, does anyone do an analysis of whether it’s a keeper card for overall spend based on the free night and free nights based on spend? That is, do the free nights juice the return on spend appreciably to move this card up the hierarchy? Just curious.

@Earlthepearl24 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing Sebby

@DougYuen 8 ай бұрын

🏖 I'm thinking about ways to optimize the Aspire credits without going on too many separate trips. If I'm reading the terms correctly, the semi-annual and quarterly credits go by transaction date. Flights seem to always be charged immediately. So with the flight credit, if you're booking separate legs for the same trip, you could book one on say, June 25 (to give some time to clear) and another on July 1, and they would count for separate quarters. It's been a while since I've been at a Hilton, but the last one I stayed at didn't charge my card until the day my stay was finished. So if you booked two Hilton stays on one trip, one stay ending June 25 and the other on July 1, they would count for both semi-annual credits? Does this sound like it would work, or am I missing anything? I don't think I'll base all my travel plans around this, but if it means saving $200 or more (instead of letting credits go to waste), it's worth considering the timing.

@richora2007 8 ай бұрын

I already have a Hilton but would like to upgrade, can I apply and grab the sign on points reward bonus? will AMEX allow?

@ajcab819 8 ай бұрын

I think Hilton is my favorite cobrand portfolio. I was going to downgrade my surpass and keep my aspire but I think I can make it work keeping both of them. Honestly, if I didn’t have guaranteed 4pm checkout as a Globalist, I’d be all in on Hilton.

@thejokerspeaks 8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised to see a premium business card offered next year (The Hilton Perspire!), with boosted small business travel perks, and spend thresholds. I just hope they don't cut shipping like the Amex Business Gold!

@TravelBossNas 8 ай бұрын

🏝️ for me the aspire changes are great. And I just paid my annual fee last month. So I’ll be getting those improvements at the old fee! The biggest downside is losing the $250 incidental credit as it was a great use for us with United 😉. But I can use the $50 every quarter.

@JG90984 8 ай бұрын

The quarterly credit will make me have to get rid of my Surpass. Should I cancel it or downgrade it?

@Materoosi 8 ай бұрын

Did clear increase prices ? Now the credit doesn’t cover that full cost of member plus one.

@jeffchung6832 8 ай бұрын

like your long term plan; its basically my current set up

@josuevega1558 8 ай бұрын

I have the surpass do we get the new credit immediately?

@MrLeoAndres 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ do we know if the quarterly $50 airline credit will work with United Travel Bank?

@nc8845 8 ай бұрын

I originally got the Hilton Aspire because it came with the Priority Pass and many more benefits. I finally took a flight out of LAX and no Priority Lounge was available. So I guess I don’t mind AMEX taking the Priority Pass away. Should I pay for Priority Pass direct, or should I apply for the Platinum AMEX?

@jaygupta2875 8 ай бұрын

What is the hotel chain performance chart over the past month tracking? Google searches?

@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

Google Finance

@thejokerspeaks 8 ай бұрын

The resort credit is easy for us, because we have an every-other-year Hilton timeshare (got off Ebay), and we fly from Las Vegas. Sometimes we stay at Virgin to be slightly off strip anyways. Endgame setup: Hilton Aspire, Hilton Business, Delta Business Platinum, BBP, BBP

@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

Good setup!

@sladesurfer 8 ай бұрын

well, I have the surpass card . Only reason I got it is because it's the cheapest annual fee card that has priority pass. Now that its gone, will be downgrading it to the no fee Hilton card

@rangeles3462 3 ай бұрын

🏖️ Dude are you very thorough but informative - meaning the language/narrative is so easy to understand and useful!!

@gregb5876 8 ай бұрын

Data point -flight credit - seems to work with the AA Miles multiplier. I had multiplied the miles on one of my trips just before these changes. And I'm showing the $50 airline credit.

@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the data point!

@user-wh1ti5cl2c 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video I imagine you can use the airline credit at Southwest. Just buy a one way ticket to To los angeles each quarter. And then cancel the flight and get credit. For the amount.

@paulstein916 8 ай бұрын

🏝️ Not really a fan of the quarterly coupons. Really annoying to keep track of as I already have other coupon cards to track. I don’t think you mentioned the new SUB’s available on these cards. What do you think of them? To me, the Surpass sub looks like the best one.

@JKPham23 5 ай бұрын

Are you able to use the free night from holding aspire and $200 of the semi annual credit on the same stay? For example booking a 2 night stay, using your free night to cover one of the two, and then paying for the second night minus $200 effectively in the form of the statement credit?

@josemora6448 8 ай бұрын

I was super mad that they denied me the welcome bonus for the Hilton Surpass and when I called they told me it was because I had the regular Hilton honors card and I had gotten the bonus on that one. I had understood they were different products!!!

@jefuryo 8 ай бұрын

Do the $50 rolls over? Or it’s like Saks $50/semi-annual.

@Tomsushi 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the updates Sebby, personally I hate that they got rid of Priority pass on the Aspire but that gives me an incentive to finally get the Platinum. Its also a huge pain to use the $50 coupon credits as a person who doesn't travel every quarter its wasted credits and there is nothing cheap worth flying to from my city. Can we use the new credits now or do we need to wait until a specific date? I may have missed this but did the card design for the Aspire change? It's trivial but I wish the card was metal and even more so because its $550 AF now!

@ApplyWithAdler 8 ай бұрын

⛱️Sebby, I’d love a video from you sharing your top 10 Hilton properties. More appropriately, the top 10 Hiltons to target for your free night stay (or for point redemption). This couldn’t be a video stating the best thing for your buck since that can change, but maybe it could be the properties with the best amenities, best rooms, best food, etc. Maybe this can be a running series with all of the different hotel brands.

@hanniblejulien 8 ай бұрын

I have been waiting for your video. I got the Aspire card to take a month long trip to Europe in August. I went had fun but did not get the big thrill of being a diamond member. I only got an upgrade atter asking during the last two days of my trip, after about 14 days of stays. I dont think i spend enough to get the right value. I am gonna cancel it unless anyone has different suggestions. Based on the value i will get the Amex gold then Platinum unless Citi somehow releases there maybe new cards before the end of December. I did like the Aspire card for the ideal of what it could do, but the changes don't work for an avg person like me. I have struggled to use all the credits this first year. If i lived closer to a hilton resort this card would be worth it to keep. 🏖️

@mendyazulay8178 8 ай бұрын

@asksebby was wondering why you don't have the Amex Gold Card?

@beaconscore 6 ай бұрын

For Hilton Timeshare owners this card is a must. Now with the upgrade in resort credit to $400. The annual maintenance fees give 14x in points. Totally worth the annual fee increase

@412foto 8 ай бұрын

I was bummed about the Amex Gold card welcome offer disqualification since Platinum holder. Been looking around for a new grocery card and I think for 2024 it will be my Surpass card because it is a pretty good earner on that category although of course just means I am narrowing the use case of the points earned.

@samkatana 8 ай бұрын

🏖 Haha I love the 2Chainz adlib

@NewJerseyScratchKing 8 ай бұрын

I like the changes to aspire besides the AF! For me will be quite easy to use $600 in credits and been loving my Hilton card since I got it over a year ago. Now that the AF went up though makes me wonder which other Amex card I ax 🤔 🏖️

@412foto 8 ай бұрын

have a feeling if I get the Aspire, I will try the Southwest hack of buying a cheap flight to get the $50 credit activated and then cancel the flight to save it in my Southwest account for a future flight

@randallshurn4466 3 ай бұрын

🏖Great video. Thank you,.

@TheGregRussell 8 ай бұрын

Just received my replacement (Aspire) card, and it's METAL!!!

@MilesAndMayhem 8 ай бұрын

0.8 cpp for a hilton point seems aspirational. TPG still has them at 0.6 cpp and even that feels high from what myself and my friends have observed on redemptions. That said... still into the Aspire update.

@mikeybee98 8 ай бұрын

The surpass is even better for me now than it was before.

@jameshorton3692 5 ай бұрын

Like the strategy with the surpass. They pretty much turned it into a keeper card for folks with moderate travel and loyalty to Hilton.

@snegrn 8 ай бұрын

The Surpass is a mixed bag for me. I like most of the changes except the addition of the Clear credit for the Priority Pass membership. As a holder of the Green card, this would cancel out the credit. Still happy to see the free night after 15k spending was retained.

@WeiliXu88 8 ай бұрын

To me this sounds better. $200 per quarter in Hilton resort fits my family annual plan. I don’t care priority pass because chase side covers it better. Unsure if I can use the CLEAR credits for my parents. If works, that gives us additional savings. The only catch here is how would they categorize the airline spending. We do biz trips through concurs, not sure if those count. But overall, I’m happy with the new benefits. Good video. Thanks!

@gilbertnicholas1582 8 ай бұрын

They should've went semi annual with the flight credit on the Aspire

@Adiscretefirm 8 ай бұрын

It's several years away, but if I don't upgrade to the Surpass I may have to cancel the Honors when my physical card expires, I just hate the new look that much.

@carolrosales8382 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ Sebby, you're brilliant!

@Ron-qe4ul 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ Just upgraded my Surpass to the Aspire last month. Wish they would've included all Hilton properties in the credit for the Aspire.... that would've made it a keeper for me based on how I travel. I'll likely downgrade back to the Surpass next year

@mikedevan2411 8 ай бұрын

Not really a fan of using a hotel card for flights; that's what my platinum card is for. Especially in 4 nibbles, instead of one big bite. But having 2 California coast staycations instead of one is definitely a boost. Or a July 31st/ August 1st two-part stay,

@rickmustang 6 ай бұрын

Currently own the Amex Gold. I travel 3 weeks a month and mostly stay in Hiltons. I’ll hit my SUB total in about a month so my original plan was to sign up for an Amex Platinum. The question is do I grab a Surpass or Aspire now to maximize Hilton points until I hit the SUB total for Gold then get the Platinum for the trifecta.

@WeiliXu88 8 ай бұрын

Called Amex and confirmed, for existing card holder, you will still have your incidental airline credit plus the new $50 airline credit for the remaining days in this year. They were generous enough to change my airline selection for my upcoming trips in December 😊

@rigsb8127 7 ай бұрын

How do you use the Hilton credits on multiple aspire cards on a single trip? Do you split the charges at the hotel?

@AskSebby 7 ай бұрын

Split charge at the end or do payments mid-way through (looks more sus but we've done it)

@thomask5038 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think the changes are a net positive for both the Aspire and Surpass. I do find it annoying that for a "travel" card with a $150 AF, that the Surpass earns at ONLY US gas, dining, groceries and online retail.

@Alvin_1914 8 ай бұрын

I can't wait to watch this. I've been waiting for Sebby's take. #squuuuuuuuuad

@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

🙌

@jefuryo 8 ай бұрын

You can get National Emerald after getting Hertz President Circle and then status match.

@bombas238 8 ай бұрын

Silly question, Sebby: for those of us with both Surpass and Aspire cards, do we just ask them to charge $50 to the Surpass and the rest to the Aspire on checkout?

@AskSebby 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I’ve done that before with multiple Aspire cards.

@carolrosales8382 8 ай бұрын

🏖️ Sebby, your brilliant!

@cjhan47 8 ай бұрын

I have the Aspire card, and the the changes are good for me. While I might not fly every year, I do stay at a Hilton resort at least twice a year. So, with the free night and the diamond status, this card still more than pays for itself.

@willdrake254 8 ай бұрын

The resort credit counts towards room rate correct? Trying to use my current $250 credit at the moment

@stonedig 7 ай бұрын

🌂 ⛱️. I have the 0AF HH. I travel less than I used to, but here in the Midwest, I get room upgrades like 90% of the time.

@user-fm7fi2qd4q 2 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who would trade the $400 resort credit on the Aspire for the $200 hotel credit on the Surpass? Any tricks for getting more value out of the resort credit?

@hookandlateral1 8 ай бұрын

🏖Most people I know don't even go anywhere when they take time off of work, so asking them figure something each quarter just isn't going to work for them. I think what makes more sense is if you value what you get otherwise enough to offset the annual fee like you were talking about at the end

@joshuaniles-dancy585 8 ай бұрын

I canceled my Aspired Card right before this revamp and looking at the revamp I'm glad i did. However, i wonder if i should of done it after the revamp to show AMEX I'm not a fan of it 🤔

@Juliozev96 6 ай бұрын

Wanted to add a data point here that for the aspire, it looks like the $200 flight credit that is split into $50 quarterly, is already in affect. I bought a flight this month with the aspire and I received a $50 flight credit from Amex already.

@Ann-ym7oo 8 ай бұрын

🏖 For the Hilton Surpass, can u use the $50 credit each quarter at the Hilton hotel restaurant without staying a night?

@adame9279 8 ай бұрын

I have the same ? I assume yes.

@CeasarBergonia 8 ай бұрын

I need to do more research but it looks like downgrading to surpass card. I use the priority pass a lot. The full resort credit. Diamond is good but gold is just as good. Luckily I have until June to make my decision.

@Xavier.Villa. 8 ай бұрын

Does anyone know what card is the one that gives you points for paying with a mobile wallet? I think it was us bank and it was arlund 4 percent iirc 🤔

@HJD95 8 ай бұрын

US Bank Altitude Reserve. Gives 3x back mobile wallet purchases and you can use the points for 1.5x towards travel so technically earns 4.5% for travel

@SwiftAC94 8 ай бұрын

These changes for the Surpass is negative for me. I only got it because of the Priority Pass, which I haven't been able to use since lounges are always full. plus I already have the Venture X for Priority Pass. Probably will downgrade to a 2nd Hilton Honors card. If they kept the Hilton credits together rather than split it quarterly, then I may keep the card.

@user-lb3ml3tt5f 8 ай бұрын

The Aspire changes definitely make me less likely to get that card, as someone who isn't going to take quarterly trips. Higher AF, credits are broken up on both Resort credit and the airline credits.

@zzjxchsnonezjxx 8 ай бұрын

Surpass is a great card to have for gas and supermarket. It's very easy to meet that $15k spend requirement to get the free night.

@TheLandMiler 8 ай бұрын

Personally I'm super happy about the changes to the Aspire Card! I have a similar setup with 3X Aspire and 1X Bonvoy Brilliant and I think the increase to the $400 annual resort credit makes up for the annual fee and then some! While the $50 quarterly flight credit is a bit more niche, I think there'll be use cases that already have been working out. Priority Pass can always be supplemented with other end game cards like the Capital One Venture X!

@nnamuenmada 8 ай бұрын

I can't wait for the daily airline credit of $0.55 to be announced

@jimbobimboslice 7 ай бұрын

So…what counts toward those $50 quarterly credits? I have the Apsire but am confused. Paying for baggage on flights won’t count anymore right?

@AskSebby 7 ай бұрын

AFAIK, anything. Flight itself, baggage, etc. Will update or do a blog post once we get more data points (i.e., do drinks count?)

@lonz0_0 8 ай бұрын

🏖sebbyyyyyyyyyy we need that keeper card videoooooooo

@hotgrease 8 ай бұрын

Breaking up the credits is annoying but I think it’s still a keeper card. Seems like they’re trying to get people to do at least 2 stays per year instead of just 1 with the free night.

@patricktutek7933 8 ай бұрын

I could care less about car rental perks. I use Lyft which is connected to my Hilton Honors account. I found Priority Pass useful especially if a United Club wasn’t available.