That was also my goal while creating this video. There are just a lot of other videos regarding german and balkans ultras (which they are great), but we are at the same level imo. Maybe I should create a soecific video of them…

I guess

​@@alexanderstasolla some of the teams have to share a stadium with a women's own team

Yeah, i agree with you, those political flags are shame for sport. In europe i have only seen them on bayern munich stadium..

@@thenightspitter But believe me, it gets worse. In Germany, the rainbow flag is on the German government buildings, and they say because of tolerance and diversity... what a pathetic people the Germans are.

@@thenightspitter You are right,because the german are sick for this idiology....

The women's teams have that too

You guys are getting better, that's also another reason why I decided to do this video. The famous ones are old

@@alexanderstasolla ill be honest the americans were quite good

I believe I am doing very unbiased videos about MLS fanbases. Yet, all you had to say is that Inter Miami is ONLY Messi hype... Doesn't sound like an unbiased opinion to me.

@@Addict10nFootball It's not ONLY Messi hype, but a lot of it is. Before Messi signed for the club they couldn't even come close to selling out their tiny stadium and no one talked about them. Then they win the ridiculous Leagues Cup with Messi and everyone calls them the most important team in MLS history. Also 99% of the comments on their highlights are just praising Messi. So it isn't very difficult to see that nearly all of the club's fanbase are Messi fans. I mean the club's entire Marketing campaign, and MLS's aswell, is just, "We have Messi, so you should watch us." Also the bending of the rules by MLS just so Inter Miami can win a trophy really makes the club and league feel like a Messi league.

@@AmbushRL. I know what you mean... Doing the Inter Miami video, I found it hardest to even find a Facebook group with actual, local fans.. Usually I try to connect with some people beforehand but with Inter I could literally just find groups from around the world - of course that ain't healthy! As I said in the video, the character test is gonna come once Messi retires, moves on, whatever.. But I think the problem isn't the club, it's the MLS itself, trying to milk it as much as possible.

exactly

No

What is their main group called? Do they have a website?

They are called district 9 but their ultras are never beating Italy

@NeymarcJunior of course not but you have to respect the development

Concordo in pieno, anche perché onestamente sono rimasto piacevolmente colpito specialmente dai Los Angeles FC. Si vede che stanno migliorando e pian piano capiscono cosa vuol dire tifare. Ciò che manca(va) a loro è una storia di rivalità (che accendono la passione e il tifo) tra le varie città

@@alexanderstasolla Infatti la tifoseria del Los Angeles FC sembra abbia molta influenza sudamericana.. per caso sai come si dividono le tifoserie nel Derby di LA? magari tra Cittadini Ispanofoni e Anglofoni (?)

Allora da quello che ho letto in maniera veloce su reddit, la situazione è questa. I LAFC hanno superato di popolarità gli LA Galaxy in brevissimo tempo perché durante la fase di creazione della società, hanno fatto partecipare gli abitanti delle parti sud ed est di Los Angeles, questo ha portato le persone a sentirsi parte di qualcosa, appassionandosi decisamente di più. Oltre a questo, un utente ha detto che gli LA Galaxy preferivano i "bianchi" o chi aveva i soldi (specialmente nel settore giovanile), di conseguenza discriminando gli ispanofoni. In breve, gli LA Galaxy hanno provato ad americanizzare il calcio sfruttando i tifosi come clienti, mentre i LAFC hanno costruito il club attorno ai fan/popolazione (specialmente ispanofona), anche per questo si vede chiaramente un'influenza sud-americana. Ovviamente questo ha poi portato ad un mix tra americani e ispanofoni all'interno della tifoseria degli LAFC.

@@alexanderstasolla Quindi, in linea di massima, LA Galaxy squadra "Borghese" e LAFC del "Popolo". Perfetto, grazie della spiegazione!

Ma anche no

More popular than Hockey?

@@Schloch83 I would say so. Especially with the interest around the World Cup in 2022 and it coming to North America in 2026. Local clubs are growing too, my club has sold out every game in it's history.

@@Schloch83ya NHL is big largely thanks to Canada which has 7 teams in the league while Canada only has 3 teams in MLS all from Canada’s 3 largest markets: Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. In the States, MLS is more popular, especially for those under 50

Very surprising, but nice too see

Do you like football (soccer) is approaching 3rd place, going over baseball, now in the US?

True

I'm from Hungary and I live in Columbus OH. I be real. Sometimes I go to the Columbus Crew game. The atmosphere is unreal, but I think can't compare it to European football. It has over 120+ years of history, and mls only has less than 30 lol. Surely it's getting there, but Americans still have to learn from Europeans.lol

True people that hate on MLS suck

They def got a better atmosphere than the english leagues. People that keep hating on the MLS developing a fan culture are just enemies of the movement. Let's just hope that the Americans don't just take strong inspiration from the Ultras movement when it comes to the way they support but also learn our mentality, especially when it comes to our opinions on commercialisation of our sport!

No its not

Sicuramente i mondiali che faranno lì stanno aiutando molto nella crescita del calcio da loro

You also see that in Europe. Think of that what you want but it does show that there seems to be a fanscene with a clear self identity, which should always be something positive.

@@didid2905 Bayern Munchen, St Pauli.. Who else??.. Now it's different when the clubs do it for political reasons.. But Ultra Groups 🤭🤣

@AhStop Explain to me how supporting lgbt goes against the ultra mentality. I'd argue it doesn't because ultra is not directly linked to any political beliefs and it's mentality can be applied to all political directions.

@@didid2905 Really?.. You need me to explain that?.. If you need an explanation you haven't a clue when it comes to Ultra Groups. You do understand lgbt groups aren't widely accepted. People put up with it. Football clubs only bother with it because of the bad publicity if they didn't. Honestly, lgbt is just another political angle. They are basically 2.8% of the population which is nothing. It's just bizarre why they even need a flag. Pointless.

​@@didid2905 ultras are strong those people are weak, I mean if you get into a fight with the other teams hooligans or ultras you're cooked😂 Do you even know that some ultra groups train their fighting?

Ci avevo pensato, ma sarebbe durato troppo il video. Sto pensando di fare un video dedicato però, in cui mettere coreografie, video delle trasferte e altre clip

Dei fiorentini ha messo una trasferta , bellissimi pure fuori casa⚜️

no way much better, like 10X. have you ever seen good pyro and flares like that in the epl, even liverpools ynwa doesnt reach this

Se non erro è lo sport più in crescita da un paio di anni a sta parte negli US, poi ovviamente gli imminenti mondiali stanno aiutando. Comunque sono rimasto sorpreso dai LAFC

Anche io sono rimasto sorpreso, per quello che mi riguarda, a livello di tifo, sono già superiori alla NFL

​@@alexanderstasolla I had made a long, five paragraph comment about the state of our soccer landscape but my wifi cut out just as I hit send. Can't be bothered to re-type so i'll summarize a few of the points and expand on others. -There is a soccer culture, but it's stunted. Soccer is by far the most popular sport for kids to be enrolled in at young ages, but after a certain age it falls off dramatically due to immense cost. Most youth change to other sports like basketball and baseball after that certain age. There is also a lot of ignorance about soccer's existence outside of the World Cup. You'd be hard pressed to find a young American that isn't at least aware of one or two Premier League clubs, but they're not making their own decisions early on. It's the parents that are the problem (not as big of a problem as inadequate coaching, cost, youth development structure, etc.). There is a multitude of older folk that have no idea that soccer leagues exists, their knowledge of soccer does not extend past knowing the World Cup is merely a tournament that they don't care too much about, and therefore in their ignorance they make the decision to steer their children into other sports. The most infamous example that I can think of is when a reporter asked a German player signed to an MLS club if he thought that he could lead the MLS club to a World Cup title. Absolute idiocracy. - Anti-soccer sentiment in sports/news media - MLS having been relegated to a footnote on sports broadcasts and television for most of its 30 year history. Apple deal changed that, now they can show their content how they want with no constraints - Clubs market solely to cities and not regions, unlike other American sports leagues - American soccer landscape has been plagued by lack of stability for most of its history (financial collapse of original American Soccer League and the NASL, plethora of regional leagues and lower tier national leagues that would sprout up after the collapse of the aforementioned ASL and NASL). - MLS lacks a monopoly on the sport, lower leagues continue to survive and thive (Apart from amateur leagues and sunday leagues, to my knowledge there is only one half-decent league that exists outside the control of the big four NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL leagues. Notably, a point of recent controversy has been the restructuring of the lower professional baseball leagues by the MLB fueled by the greed of the franchise owners. They intend to exterminate what made lower league baseball so unique and viable across hundreds of cities and convert it to a complete soulless farmers system). - There are only four professional mens soccer leagues, with a little over 100 professional clubs across the US and Canada. Fourth tier amateur and pre-professional clubs are trash most of the time. They either can't be bothered to advertise/market and engage the community, lack financial investment, only exist for the sole purpose of developing youth (they could not give less of a damn about having fans), participate in floundering regional and national leagues (such as the Gulf Coast Premier League), or any other problem. Basically, what I'm saying is that Americans like high level competition and excitement, and for many cities/regions that doesn't exist at any level, even at the highest level (My city's MLS team, the Dynamo, were trash for 10 years. We have no other professional club, and all of the fourth tier clubs suffer from one or more of the four issues I outlined earlier). Edit: Forgot to add this, but more than anything MLS is competing against the big four sports leagues. Yes the Premier League and Liga MX have a large hold on the American soccer market, but they always have and always will. MLS franchises can boast about how they're some of the most valued clubs in global soccer, but they are stiff dwarfed by even the NHL -- the smallest of the big four American sports leagues. To be fair, MLS is set to pass the NHL in terms of fans sooner or later, but they'll never hold a candle to the stranglehold that the NBA has on American sports, let alone the titan that is the NFL.

Molto vero

Oltretutto non hanno neanche un sistema di retrocessione o altro, questo rende i campionati veramente noiosi. Anche se stanno pensando di inserirlo. In ogni caso il calcio negli stati uniti è nato strutturato come sono strutturati gli altri loro sport nazionali, ma il trend è chiaro che si sta spostando in un sistema più simile a quello europeo/mondiale

la clip della curva fiesole era già così, come ho detto nella descrizione non sono clip mie ma prese da altri su YT, quindi non voglio avere il merito. Per il resto, non ho messo la Lazio (ma avrei dovuto a sto punto) perché volevo mostrare meno squadre blasonate e renderlo un po' diverso dal solito.

@@alexanderstasolla ah okok, complimenti comunque...il secondo video dei baresi è incredibile. Aspetterò altri video del genere, negli altri U.S.A vs Europa solo germania, balcani e francia. Ma si scordano che la parola ultras è nata in Italia! 🇮🇹

@@federicosirizzotti3032 guarda è proprio per quello che ho voluto fare sto video (e forse ne farò altri dedicati ai nostri ultras). È tutto nato da noi, gli altri sono solo pure imitazioni (nulla da togliere comunque, balcani e tedeschi li adoro).

rare American fans W

maybe so but MLS has its own unique culture and we can respect them for that

there wouldnt be anyone who would follow the team if they were relegated

Dev'essere una moda copiare gli europei in generale

I don’t understand, in what way are they copying

Ma in realtà no, ci sono vari video in cui confrontano le atmosfere americane di basket con quelle europee (specie i balcani), e non c'è confronto. Quelle americane sono anche peggio del calcio, forse dove si vede qualcosa è il basket nei vari college/high-school

ok

Sarebbe durato troppo il video, non ho aggiunto altre squadre che avrebbero meritato di stare nella compilation

@@alexanderstasolla penso che la curva sud prime merita più della maggior parte delle squadre in questo video

​@@alexanderstasollasei della Roma

@@danielebondanini1111 milanista

@@alexanderstasolla infatti avrei aggiunto o.. milanista

Poland fans in hockey? The czech are the best fans... 😂😂

The problem aren’t the drummers (we use them a lot here in Europe), the real problem is a lack of sense of being part of the club, the community and dedication. You need to create rivalries (just look at how much is better the LA derby after the foundation of LAFC). You guys are getting better tho, I was surprised by the LAFC fans