American Forces Are Getting a Frosty Reception in Afghanistan (2008)

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The Coldest Winter (2008): American troops are not only struggling to defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan, they've also failed to win over the local population.
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The situation in Afghanistan steadily deteriorates. In the past 12 months, over 6,000 Afghans have been killed. Can a hostile population ever be won over?
"How do you turn communities from bad to good?" ponders Lt Col Woods. Six years after the invasion, the rhetoric has changed. Soldiers no long talk about wiping out the Taliban or hunting down terrorists. Now, the buzz words are tactics of counter insurgency. "We have to look constantly at ways to do it better and do it differently", states Woods. It's a difficult challenge. His men appear exhausted and demoralised. At night, the temperature drops to - 30°c. Blizzards have grounded the helicopters. Despite the extreme weather, troops from the US 82nd airborne are heading out for a ten day patrol. But the village has clearly been warned. All the military-aged men have vanished.
Next day, they guard the Provincial Government during a meeting with tribal elders. They listen uncomfortably to a litany of complaints. "A lot of injustice has been done", laments one leader. "Government forces loot houses, kill people, detain people". It seems the ongoing operations are causing nothing but resentment.
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@jacobjorgenson9285 2 жыл бұрын

It’s all so simple, as the Taliban said “ They haved the watches, but we have the time” All empires fail in Afghanistan

@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 2 жыл бұрын

If foreign troops came to my house and broke my doors and stole various pieces of my property, my heart and mind would be so won. Especially if they called me a liar for not claiming an inert piece of broken metal was some kind of weapon.

@sammynatal6471 2 жыл бұрын

Right. Amazing these people.

@babyjesus9244 10 ай бұрын

Then you would be killed by a young American troop with a happy trigger finger, just like many afghans who picked up arms against us troops Absolutely destroyed

@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 10 ай бұрын

@@babyjesus9244 LOL, where's the US at now? Certainly not in Afghanistan. USA lost the war.

@jake_runs_the_world 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful afghan landscape

@occif2023 2 жыл бұрын

In the US you would find 10 weapons in every home and the US has never been invaded. Unless you count the southern border.

@jasonm949 Жыл бұрын

Umm...War of 1812?

@juglanscinerea 2 жыл бұрын

I love how he repeatedly calls it "the business".

@ahmedibrahim5800 2 жыл бұрын

20 years of American work undone in 20 days

@amolkhobaragade 2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter. Let Taliban and their supporters face the wrath of starving population, then they will understand.

@louskunt2641 2 жыл бұрын

@@amolkhobaragade Afghanistan was fine before we got there.

@user-tq1qb4cc9d Жыл бұрын

@@amolkhobaragade The US forces winded up as loosers at the end of the fight as usual. Why they always win in movies 🎬? 🥱....Pathetic.

@user-tq1qb4cc9d Жыл бұрын

@@amolkhobaragade the starvation created by the American government.....yeah the final move of the hypocrite cowards.

@ponraul1221 Жыл бұрын

Nothing says "American freedom" like random home searches to confiscate firearms.

@sammynatal6471 2 жыл бұрын

How can you talk about freedom, turn around and take the freedom of the second amendment right away from them, and expect them to welcome you with open arms and love?

@jasonm949 Жыл бұрын

Wait until those US troops treat us Americans like this.

@knunyabeasewhacks8744 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be a happy with a foreigner searching my property and taking my guns and saw blades.

@jacksaggers9728 2 жыл бұрын

the guy had grenades and modern military ammunition. Dude was Taliban

@louskunt2641 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. One war I'm glad we lost. And a 3 percenter, how cute 🤣 poser

@hoondaily270 Жыл бұрын

@@jacksaggers9728 as a free man you should be able to posses any weapons that can readily be used against you.

@GanjaaaBoy 4 жыл бұрын

4 soldiers of armerca 4 automatic weapons of mass murder in their hands taking a broken pistol from a poor shepherds home just think about that

@Cornelis56 2 жыл бұрын

They are intruders and openly behave as such. No wonder that the Taliban is so widely supported. If I was an Afghan, I would support them too.

@enriquelaroche5370 4 жыл бұрын

For Afghans Freedom means you are gone.

@jensjensen9035 3 жыл бұрын

Not for all. There is a stark difference from rural Helmand province to Kabul to bamyan

@enriquelaroche5370 3 жыл бұрын

@@jensjensen9035 What percentage of Afghanistan land and population are under Taliban rule today?

@jensjensen9035 3 жыл бұрын

@@enriquelaroche5370 majority

@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 3 жыл бұрын

13 years have passed, the last military guy spoke of a victory, has the u.s. won yet?

@usnationalist8150 3 жыл бұрын

You think of winning in a completely different way, this kind of winning is impossible. We could just wipe em all out if we wanted to. It’s always the gov’s we try to install that always fail. I can see why tho because our own gov is corrupt trash.

@Cornelis56 2 жыл бұрын

@@usnationalist8150 Even in “wiping em all out” the US would fail. The way the US lost its face is irreparable.

@usnationalist8150 2 жыл бұрын

Incompetent politicians and leaders in the military.

@louskunt2641 2 жыл бұрын

@@usnationalist8150 I'm sure you would do better mighty keyboard warrior

@usnationalist8150 2 жыл бұрын

Lou Skunt: Completely over your head. Did you even read what I said? I said it’s not our troops fault, it’s the politicians and military leaders who always mess things up. Where you get that I was trying to be a keyboard warrior is beyond me lol.

@sammynatal6471 2 жыл бұрын

So you destroyed some things and didn’t find anything and didn’t fix what you broke. Then you wonder why they don’t like you.

@zahidzada5762 4 жыл бұрын

I'm watching in these days when Americans sign a deal to leave Afghanistan.

@matty_o 2 жыл бұрын

And now it has been fulfilled

@Cornelis56 2 жыл бұрын

@@matty_o The intruders are (almost) gone.

@mohammadtayyar6623 2 жыл бұрын

Well done confiscate somones only weapon in a lawless area. Who tf are you .

@Woke1440 Жыл бұрын

God bless the people of Afghanistan

@ArthurDavis89 Жыл бұрын

This shows why these cowards lost. They only harass old women and children.

@abdulsalam-xb3sq 3 жыл бұрын

i have a weapon at home this is a very common thing in pathan houses

@jensjensen9035 3 жыл бұрын

That pistol was definitely for self defense

@chaskaabraxas5314 3 жыл бұрын

This is the 21st Century Vietnam Version ! Using all Hi tech weapons including F22 fighter jets but they cant beat the Tali🥵🤪🥱 when these Nomads live in the Mountains & Caves ever since ? 🥶

@Travelleramit 6 жыл бұрын

Freedom my ass ☺

@Repadendorf 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to see the most powerful army in the world escaping like rats from Afghanistan.

@louskunt2641 2 жыл бұрын

Tails between legs

@summushieremiasclarkson4700 3 жыл бұрын

Really did not belong there, it's their nation, their right to govern as they see fit.

@Hassino7 Жыл бұрын

Barges into peoples house and then says the taliban are the bad guys sounds familiar to what the soviets did

@arndbrack2339 3 жыл бұрын

And they didn't even protect precious oil fields - sad to see soldiers in missions without any chance of accomplishing something terrorizing the local people

@xpresslane173 3 жыл бұрын

That’s the mission, terrorise and make an enemy to further your stay

@jacobjorgenson9285 2 жыл бұрын

There’s no oilfields in Afghanistan.

@vivianaugusta3000 Жыл бұрын

They went to Afghanistan for the poppy fields. Afghanistan provides 90% of all he.ro.in. in the market.

@user-tq1qb4cc9d Жыл бұрын

When he says freedom with the way he's saying it, it makes it like he's shopping it from Walmart.

@sogsniper8504 5 жыл бұрын

Never thrust U.S and specialy NOT any armed forces from U.S....i stand by the Afghan people i understund them and that U.s should leave Afghanistan...have any american ask them self if this was U.S how they would feal about foregin invaders? they would never agree to that so why should the rest of the world do that? Many countrys that U.S are station in want them out..There must be an end of U.S Big brother involvment and belive they control,and rule over the world...and many countrys they left they left weapon that destroy people stil and new born babys,,,do they care? No its allways other country that have to clean up there mess....

@sammynatal6471 2 жыл бұрын

You hear that people? It’s a business. Going to other countries and destroying peoples lives is a business.

@arkhitek2251 Жыл бұрын

There’s more reenlistment’s “in country” (Afghanistan & Iraq) mostly because the bonuses their handing out with reenlistment’s are none taxable because of being outside the US. I know this because I almost re-enlisted in Iraq back in my day.

@holdencraig3010 5 жыл бұрын

MUH SECOND AMENDMENT

@xpresslane173 3 жыл бұрын

Freedom to invade and occupy foreign territories!!!

@powasjington4262 2 жыл бұрын

So they really have no idea who is the enemy and who is not… Why are they even there?

@louskunt2641 2 жыл бұрын

Opium

@keywinhomes8969 2 жыл бұрын

Old man been fighting agaisnt foreign occupiers simce God know when.

@noyouareracist4431 2 жыл бұрын

Since the russians arrive .

@GanjaaaBoy 4 жыл бұрын

IED's are not a form of attack, they are a form of defense

@hackermanandhackboy4064 3 жыл бұрын

Why cant they have weapons i think it isnt illegal

@newjerseywales 2 жыл бұрын

Compare and contrast the Afghan army response to their freedom being threatened, versus how Ukraine responded. Very different people and we should never have gone there.

@jasonm949 Жыл бұрын

Some Afghans fought on our side, because they made a lot of money off of it. Same is going on in Ukraine. We'll see US helicopters landing in the US Embassy in Kiev, just like we have in Saigon and Kabul. Wait for it.

@civiSapper 5 жыл бұрын

After spending some time in Afghanistan I've come to know their are only a handful of honest hard working people and bunch of Taliban or people who support the Taliban either as fighters or in their way of thinking.

@zoyasworld3566 5 жыл бұрын

If people won't support Taliban. They will be killed in front of their families

@officialz8328 4 жыл бұрын

mehraj husain the local people support taliban because they are their people , the taliban are fighting off foreign invaders who have came into their country in the name of ‘freedom’ but are only their for the opium plants and minerals and because the country is based in a strategic location. The Americans kill thousands of innocent Afghans and the people of Afghanistan have had enough and have nothing else to do but to defend themselves with weapons .

@louskunt2641 2 жыл бұрын

Nah no you didn't

@sammynatal6471 2 жыл бұрын

As an American, I can say that you had absolutely no business being there. You went there to try and take the resources away from the people. You may not think so, but we know that there’s nothing else there.

@user-tq1qb4cc9d Жыл бұрын

The US forces winded up as loosers at the end of the fight as usual. Why they always win in movies 🎬? 🥱....Pathetic.

@Jimmy-jv3md Жыл бұрын

Resisting a foreign occupation of your country is bad 😂

@mubashirbhat668 5 жыл бұрын

And atlast they had to leave 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@flexsealm1a2sepv3 5 жыл бұрын

Nigga speak english and were still in Afganistan

@georgeheard2439 4 жыл бұрын

@@flexsealm1a2sepv3 is right man

@Kamofy 5 жыл бұрын

Damn this is old!

@jr13227 4 жыл бұрын

It’s old but the situation hasn’t changed

@Harris.S 4 жыл бұрын

@@jr13227 yup

@Ja2808R 3 жыл бұрын

Documentary was released 2008.

@loederwijk8182 2 жыл бұрын

21:00 this is the kind of talk which we really like. This kind of talk ruined the situation for everyone somehow. It seems there's infrastructure and legalities missing to execute in a very western manner, for most of them. I think the takeway is "we never knew where we went or why, and had little to no business there". The region at large does not do "national socialism" because the logical / logistical unit of nation doesn't relate to them the same way, and soldiers are trained to fight between nation state actors. Funky, economically, to regularly patrol remote mountain villages with a herd of armed men!

@dawnmiddleton9415 2 ай бұрын

Am sure in would be arm to the teeth if I lived in such a place talk about the Wild West this is a dangerous place to grow up

@andrewb8698 3 жыл бұрын

That bloke at the end has seen some shit. I think he would break if he stopped believing his rhetoric.

@gissie391 3 жыл бұрын

Odd how they don't have skiis.

@StarStar-vu9ef 5 жыл бұрын

The translater is athenic tajik not afghan and translating wrong and misleading American,

@redarmywaikato4718 6 жыл бұрын

Freedom has no boundaries

@huitzplochit 3 жыл бұрын

The Lt. Col. Talks about an aspect that almost seems to be a stereotype of American Warfighter. He thinks because the US defines itself so much through "muh freedom" and talkes about it all day long, that this is the key Aspect the US soldiers need to bring to their Afghan Citizens. I don't think they care to much about freedom, Cultures seam to be stable without the American definition of it. E.g. Europe or China.

@jasonm949 Жыл бұрын

Europe has been under American occupation since 1945. What rock have you been living under?

@sammynatal6471 2 жыл бұрын

By the way, they were free before you got there. They were freely having what they wanted in their homes. You come and knock down their doors and don’t even fix them at all. I’d do the same thing they do. The taliban isn’t talking away their protection.

@Bhatasma382 2 жыл бұрын

Who is here after US withdrawal in Vietnam style

@gissie391 3 жыл бұрын

But it is normal for them to have weapons in a history. But it's broken?maybe they are tibans weapons.?

@youfreego 4 жыл бұрын

01:22 01:47 06:56

@policeasian7848 8 жыл бұрын

What did American soildier did in 15 years of war any help rebuild or finish fight the Taliban regime, or just distribution of the country's what was left

@KristopherWilliams_tahmson 7 жыл бұрын

the administration had practically no policy regarding afghanistan, other than conducting a 'preventive war' which is internationally illegal. if you look at afghanistan today, and you see where the resources have gone (kabul), and what they're used for, it sort of paints a picture other than 'helping' afghans. it's a strategic area, and having military installations placed there, makes it far easier to push future policies with force. it's incredibly sad what the us government/ military has done to countless civilians, and as someone that lives within the borders of the us, i'm by every definition of the word, a dissident because of my automatic reaction towards wars of aggression that kill civilians in huge numbers, and further reduces their ability to live a semi-decent life.

@scottwauneka5812 4 жыл бұрын

#WasNotLying #NHW

@addrock7695 10 ай бұрын

My strategy would be to flatten Northern Pakistan where they seem to just move across any time they want, to get their guns at the market there provisions, protection and up to date information from the Pakistani government who at the highest level of “intelligence” and didn’t know Osama was living there….. It’s a repeat of Vietnam, they just moved down south cross crossing borders as they wished..

@bimmjim 6 жыл бұрын

I watch this to learn but I can't hear what the people ars saying because some dope added noise over the speech. By by.

@bonnano7872 Жыл бұрын

Lol to be fair though who dosnt have guns and weapons in a country like Afghanistan? It's not surprising they came upon a cache really if u think think about it. It's like as if a military force raided a house in America and found some guns, so what? Don't mean much necessarily. Maybe he is a member of an enemy group or maybe he's just a non hostile but armed up guy like a farmer who has profitable crops to protect or a villager who own some arms for self defense of his village. It's like that sometimes,so everybody has them. Afghanistan is flooded with weapons,it's not hard to find rifles from the British imperial empire era and even older flintstocks and the most common is the Soviet type of arms. If You were a man and also had a family in Afghanistan you'd definitely want to get a gun. Half or more of the adult male population owns some type of weaponry. Especially it been a rough and poor, lawless country. Which man wouldn't buy an AK-47 and maybe even some RPGs if they lived over there. Afghanistan is also a tribal society with different ethnic tribes fighting each other, as rivals and disputes over land,money and power. He could be Taliban but he could also be some average citizen there, the U.S. army also has a lot of Afghan militiamen as their allies. Every guy has a beard and turban over there not just the Taliban. It's not just the Taliban who look that way. But the British couldn't conquer it all as they tried and would've like too, neither the Soviet Union a superpower also in its heyday like the British imperial empire, and the world's only true superpower in the 21st century,the USA,failed to tame and subdue the entire rugged, harsh,but naturally beautiful historic lands of Afghanistan. I think the vast empire , a superpower also in its day, the empire of Alexander the Great,also had trouble conquering all of Afghanistan,had trouble defeating the hostile locals there too. I think it's safe to say no country is going to bother fur a very long time to try and subdue,control all of Afghanistan by military force and invading occupying it for a long period. Afghanistan is a strategic important located country and is rich in vast mineral wealth and precious metals and gems under the surface, so much untapped potential, but lack of investment will hinder progress and prosperity. Apparently over trillion $ worth under its soil. If only the various Afghan factions and tribes can come together, put aside differences and focus on their shared future of peace and prosperity,build up the nation. What a shame and waste.