Von's comments on the US were on point. Americans are viewed as being able to do pretty much whatever they want without prejudice, but that's not true. I believe our youth are the ones who are changing things. It's getting better like Von said, but we still have a long way to go. Love to all. ❤

"is he beautiful or is he gay?" 🤣🤣 I felt that I want more of these three, they make me smile so much 🥰

As an American, I think being gay or anything "outside the norm" is much more accepted if you live in a city or urban area, but in small towns and more rural settings, I think it depends. Where I live in the northeast I can probably dress and act how I like, but when I visit family in North Carolina or Texas, I have to act straighter so I don't attract negative attention from strangers. I also think that if I went to a more rural but still northeastern area, I might have a hard time too. The US is a really big country, and everywhere is different, so I would ask locals what is okay to avoid being hate-crimed. I also have really bad gay-dar, but that's just a personal thing. I have queer friends who are much better at telling who is gay or queer or not.

I've got to be honest 😂😂 the guy looks so happy finding out how easy it was to distinguish who was gay or not in the US lol. After each point he seemed to be plotting lmao

A lot of guy where I live in America don’t use umbrellas and just wear hoodies when it rains. I only really see girls wear umbrellas and rarely guys.

Androgynous fashion is more common with Gen Z. With older generations, the things Von says are true. But with Gen Z you can't tell for sure if a guy is gay or straight based on his clothing. They all wear pink shirts, they like to paint their fingernails, both of which are things only gay guys would do in older generations. So, it's easier to generalize about Millennial and older men's clothing in the US, but those rules are breaking down with Gen Z. I live on a fairly conservative town in the upper south, and it's an observable trend even here

"not that guys in america don't take care of themselves" hoo boy i wish that were true😬even here in cities it's more uncommon than not to find a straight guy who wears clothes that fit and are more than a t shirt, jeans, sneakers, and hoodie and who has a well-maintained haircut and neatly trimmed beard. At least it's becoming more popular among straight guys to be stylish and look put together nowadays. Dongdoni, I live in one of the Gayest cities in America, Seattle--you should visit sometime! we have an entire gay district and you can come stay at my house if you want and I will take you to some gay clubs and events, even though i mostly stay at home lol, I'm not very exciting for a bi nonbinary person. you'd be very popular here because you are so cute and outgoing and there are a lot of cute gay boys here.

The arbitrary rules by which American masculinity and male bodies are policed are numerous and I would imagine are (as a U.S. woman) incredibly stifling. The extent some go to not have their masculinity or sexuality thrown into question is *sigh*. Some of it shifts with region, generation, or tons of other reasons (race, class, culture) but still, stifling.

I really loved this interview between these 3, there was never a dull moment

I'd love to see a lesbian version of this

Here in Greece back in 2005 pink was dominating in men's fashion.everyone was wearing it and the elders were questioning if those who were wearing pink shirts , t-shirts were gay or not 😂it was funny 😂

I like the fact that Korean changed the perspective of manly man. It is okay to wear make up, fendora hat, clutch. These doesn’t define your sexual preference

Von is SO good! He does a great job of explaining and making things clear without over generalizing

I absolutely love them… please keep posting more of Von, Dony, and Junyoung💛

He should have said people might think your gay for certain things but they won’t act on it cause it’s okay to be gay so like u can wear pink ppl might think your gay but wont care for it really

I think gaydar in a lot of places mostly depend on stereotypes. Like how he's saying that in the US if a man were to wear makeup or a fedora he might be gay. It's like certain fashion/ visual things become popular within different queer communities and that way become a way you might be able to identify other queer people. Also with regards to the fedora: if the guy is dressed a certain way with it I'll assume he might be straight and maybe a little sexist.

Brilliant trio 👏 🥰 the shocked faces at the umbrella 🌂 part lol 😆 joonyoung looking good 👍 🥰

Maybe cause I'm gay, but these guys are my favorite lol. I laughed out loud about the ankle socks 🤣 I'm in the south. It's not as bad as it seems, but even that is dependent by county. We're gay down here too 😅🏳️‍🌈

These are serving some great visuals

I just want to say whomever chose the thumbnail for this segment should be ashamed and told that you can't just insinuate someone's gay for your personal gain. That's literally something you can be sued for. For clarity the Korean male in the thumbnail is NOT GAY IN ANY WAY. Also this gents Convo on homosexuality in no way is law or 100% factual. Just his opinion.

I was born in 2002 so I don't know if it's just my generation but I find it that guys are more willing to look good and do like the self-care he'll look nice to be more presentable so they do wear more bright colors there's some more in tune with themselves that they don't really care about like what they will I guess quote on quote look gay or not so I guess for me I do find it hard to tell sometimes but then again it is based off of body language and how they you know Act around you or other people I guess and then the reason I'm from it also might have to do with that factor a lot of people are very LGBT friendly so maybe that's another reason why not sure

I just how to tell the difference between if your not gay and if your are gay its amazing!

I kinda wanna have some coffee and chit chat with von’s badly duhh. he seems warm and easygoing.

I lot of these statements about the U.S don't sound to accurate. I feel he should have terms like: assume, maybe etc because many straight guy where pink and are not assume to be gay.

"Is he beautiful or is he gay?" is the new "Is he gay or European?"

The umbrella comment🤣🤣... I was laughing so hard at the reactions. Umbrellas are used here, but in some areas like Seattle... we just wear hoodies or jackets with hoods. An umbrella here is like a show of weakness in your ability to survive nature hahaaaa. Also I agree with a few others who've already posted, gay acceptance is much more common in the urban areas than smaller towns and also depends on where in the US you are. Like in the south, big cities most often very accepting while small towns can be very dangerous because of prejudices. Before I got to know a lot about Korean culture, I always asked, is he gay? Korean men are just so beautiful compared to men in US. I wish the Korean skincare and fashion trends would take over the US straight men's trends. There's something very appealing about men taking care of themselves and their skin. I don't understand why guys here feel like they have to be bearded and dirty looking to be "manly". Ew, not thanks.

Glad to see how things are simple for Gay men in Korea. Myselfas a straight person. I try to understand how it is for all walks of life. I lived in Alaska, a lot of men were bisexual or gay the women were the just like the men. Glad as mother and grandmother would would want to support my children or grandchildren's way they prefer not for me to belittle anyone their way of life. When I finally moved from Alaska to lower 48, believe me I was treated well by most for never judged another's life. Glad KZfaq has these shows for all to watch. Thank you for being honest . My thoughts are with you all.

Lol "is he beautiful or is he gay?"

jong hyun shin would definitely be hit on in america by straight men - he is very beautiful and androgynous, i think he’d get mistaken for a woman. be careful when you come to america!!!

It varies a great deal by region, also between urban and rural areas. Especially with young people, it has become more normalized for boys and men to be more colorful and fashion-forward in styling themselves. Twenty years ago I would have looked at a certain type of guy and been automatically convinced he was gay, now things are not so clear-cut and I LOVE THAT! This is coming from someone who has lived their entire life in Idaho, so my experience is definitely not biased by living in a more modern, progressive or counter-culture place. P.S. The fedora thing has me confused :\ I haven't seen a gay man wear one since 2003, since then I've come to associate them much more strongly with hipster, artsy or libertarian straight men

They are all so beautiful!

This is so accurate! I'm from South Georgia and although I do know gay people it is not as common as the north. In the town I live in it is extremely hard to find a boyfreind if you're a guy. Lesbians is more common here.

The main thing I would disagree with is the fedora. I know some straight guys who wear fedoras. And I don't see a fedora on a man and instantly think he is gay.

I really like that a lot of the stuff he said are true and I can actually agree with, as an American. a lot of the time I watch these and I don’t agree. America in the west at least is a lot more accepting with things like pearl necklaces becoming fashion items. ヾ(๑╹◡╹)ﾉ"

From California a lot of straight men have started wearing shorts with a 5in inseam or shorter. It has made it progressively harder to figure out if someone is gay (more so at the gym). Vintage thrifting have gain popularity so both younger straight and gay men have kinda the same style.

In NYC, you can wear whatever you want and being gay is not the first assumption. Pink is in right now, so most men will wear pink without a second thought. Ankle sock is just common sense, except for those who wear socks with sandal or crocs, and still don't remove their shoes, sandal or crocs when they enter their homes. Coloring your hair is also in right now for all, not just gays... at least in NYC.

The ankle socks thing is so funny. Where I live (south america) nobody use ankle socks except under a long trousers, never with shorts or something. I see many idols and drama actors who wears ankle socks with shorts and here that is just ridiculous. Here if you wear shorts you use fake socks.

ok, have not seen the video yet, but just cruising the thumbnails and saw JunYoung! 🙂 edit: LOVED IT! 😀

El chico de en medio es bien lindo 😍💕

There are a lot of straight men who wear Fedoras. Especially, if they are going out and getting dressed up. On that note I typically only see black men wear Fedoras though. But that is just my observation and I'm in the Midwest. I did see it a lot when I lived in California too.

I think they should have talked about the Handkerchief code in America back in the 1970, I think that would be a interesting topic to talk about.

Loving this 3 like always 💕💕💕

Honestly you should have had a straight and gray male on to answer these questions because you are getting one side, in the case of the fadora's I know a lot of men who wear this as a fashion and a history and as far as men taking care of their skin we did call it metro sexual which was a term that was used for people taking care of themselves. As far as pink goes you have a lot of men wearing it for the women in their family who have had breast cancer or just to give support to women. As far as it goes for people doing what they want or dressing how they want does not define that person as being other- being human is the ultimate- love you stay healthy 💯 ❤.

For 30 years in France, straight men have worn a lot of pink... which means that this color is no longer "badly perceived" among homophobes... You should know that before the 19th century, pink/red was the color of men and blue was the color of women. In France, in the 17th and 18th century, many men of the nobility and the bourgeoisie made themselves pink outfits. Blue was "dedicated" to babies, children and little girls (and women) because it was the color of the Virgin Mary and to put on a blue outfit was to put oneself under her protection.

I think Von is confused with metrosexual & gay "gay". Some men really suit/dress up nicely and neat also following fashion trends but aren't gay, they're metrosexuals example is Stanley Tucci. Gays on the other hand are more experimental & open to try outside the fashion trends. But there's a difference with "masc" men, casual gay men & flamboyant gay men. The first looks & projects of more masculine so if in a crowd of gymgoers or even models it's not easy to identify straight & gay.

In fact, some straight men are taking care of skin and dye color hair to be neat. Gay and straight men are same bold and formal clothes and looks.

Jong Hyun is so adorable an cute. I also agree with von here in the U.S it really does depend like me for example I live in Texas so I have to be careful about how I look. I'd say in Texas being gay I have to definitely be cautious about certain things I do like my fashion style an how I speak.

So, why you putting Park Seo Joon as a korean gay image only to have more visualisations ?Have you evidences PSJ is a gay??? Defamation is a crime,you know.

Regions in the south are very open and accepting. Places like New Orleans, Louisiana and along the Gulf Coast of Mississippi and Alabama are very accepting.

Why is Park Seo-Joon’s picture on this to tease people to watch it? They don’t talk at all about him.

You guys are awesome!!! So I am a New Yorker and here there is no much prejudice! Fedora hats is not a gay thing here, they are actually consider stylish and cool and straight man and gay uses. ON the streets people are free to walk holdong hands and showing affection and no one blinks becasue its super normal for us. But of course US is a big country so in many smaller cities people might not be so used to see it, and in the south of US most people are very conservative and simple mind. And I have to say that with the Korean counture taking a lot space in the US and specialy in big cities like NY, LA, Boston, Chicago etc.... Now you see so many straight and gay man taking care of their skin, wering nail polish and jewlery a lot more :-) the make up its a it to much but hopefully that will be more common also:-)

5:38 within the last year for my school pink shirt are like all the guys wear 💀 shirts hats hoodies man I even saw a few pants and like 50% percent of them were def homophobic so I guess it really depends on wear you live, but on pink shirt day everyone wore black (I’m Canadian btw)

I did not expect to see you Joonyoung here hehe That was a cool and funny video, we need more content like this with them🙏💗

My husband wears ankle socks and we are from Minnesota, U.S.

Jinyoung looks like a combination of Sehun and D.O.

Jun-young Lim is so attractive to me... I think he has a very kind aura, looks so healthy and radiant (and does anyone else think he could twin for Exo's Sehun...?)

Thanks for this video dear lot of love from India🇮🇳🇮🇳

Being American, but growing up in Japan, I can see a huge difference in what men deem as manly. Asian men really take care of their skin, it's not unusual to see a man misting their face with a toner, but you never see men do this in America.

It is common to think that guys wearing feminine clothes/stuff are gay, I am not saying it should be that way, but it is what it is. It is not like women wearing pants today are all seen as lesbian. The world is a funny place, deviding everything into boy/girl/straight/gay.

“What about side bags” “Thats okay” as in “thats not gay”? Lmao

Said he "suuuper gay" that is very funny that he knows he is suuper gay. 😊😊😊😆.

I think putting prejudices to men that like makeup/fashion is Gay is not a right perspective. Some men do like to play dress and makeup, and not Gay at all. It's ok for Men to like those things and pursue those in Career. Men tends to avoid those things for fear of being put into labels.. And the same goes for Women that likes to do 'Manly' stuff.. like constructions work &etc. It's alright to pursue those in Career as well. I hate that based on our Gender we are being put into these stereotypical "Labels" . That Women should like this and want that, and Men vice versa. Hope for a better future for all humanity. For our survival, for our sanity.

Wow his skin is glowing!

Korea generally has a huge beauty culture because being considered attractive (for anyone) is an economic as well as social advantage. So both young men and women use every tool they can afford to enhance attractiveness including cosmetic facial surgery as well as routinely wearing cosmetics in the general population. Von’s points about how large and differentiated the US is true. The south, also called the “Bible Belt” and the middle of the country , what some folks here refer to as “fly over country”, is culturally different that the east and west coasts. So how easy it is to live comfortably and safely as an openly gay person depends in part on where you live. As well as the part of the LGBT community you belong to. But I digress. My hope is that whether in Korea, the US, or anywhere else; every person regardless of orientation, age, color, gender, physical ability has the right and ability to live authentically as themselves and express their full potential.

People from Cuba wear fedora is a kind of traditional hat for them like the cowboy hat for other regions

Oh when I saw this highlights I thought park sir Joon is gay in real life 😅😂

My guy is straight and he dresses well he wears a fedora and this is in Chicago …so I don’t agree with the fedora statement. He also wears no shoe ankle socks and we’ve been together 10yrs he just loves fashion. Also he has pastel shirts …all these statements I disagree with.

Staff that are filming this they are enjoying it 🤣

The midwest, at least my state, is chill with gay people being open. I have never heard of a hate crime here. A lot of men wear pink too. It is a pretty diverse state though so I think we just grow up being used to seeing different people. I guess it completely depends on the state in the end. Each state is like its own country.

oh, so funny... ankle socks? Male and female nurses wear them in the summer because it is cooler. Of course, I live in Canada, so things are different here from the States as well. lol.

I am 184cm, very well built with muscles, dark hair and kind of long full well trimmed beard with a deep voice. I also play sports like Muay Thai and Judo. Koreans were so shocked to know that I was gay.

i love you guys. here in my country the Philippines gaydar is simply to SMELL someone who is gay

Though social expectations seem to be more strict in South-East Asia towards both men and women, but in a way men have more freedom to express themselves through fashion or hairstyle. I like that they can wear pink, or manga character t-shirts or cute beanies, and can be into stuffed animals etc and people don’t raise a brow, or question if they are manly enough, while in the US and EU toxic masculinity culture makes these acts nearly impossible. And it is so ridiculous, just think about it, in the 19th century blue was for girls and pink was for boys. These artificial standards are annoying. Plus what are the benefits of being tough and super macho all the time? Just put it in perspective, what are those fantastic things that came out of it? Why this should be the norm?

Wow... Joon oppa is here. Keep it up💪.

I got introuble because im still awake because i was watching this but it was so worth it lol

Von put this wrong, when he said, "are they beautiful or gay?" the correct anwser is, "are they beautiful, or beautiful and gay?" XD

i kinda feel like if you are wearing ankle socks you are more with the fashion, if you are wearing anything else that goes higher up and it not freezing cold outside or doing work in cold places, i'd say that is kinda straight, cos you dont really care if that goes with your outfit or not.

6:26 I'm very surprised to learn that this hairstyle is gay. In Paris it's a very basic hairstyle imo. Every men had this hairstyle at least once in their lifetime

I'm so happy he kept emphasizing REGIONS of America. Big cities are far more advanced then clique small towns. When I moved from Chicago to Michigan up north I was in for a culture shock. No diversity. Everyone looked the same. No fashion . Heavy judgement and Bible thumping. Now it's changed. The churches are few - NOBODY goes. Those old heads passed that were racist and stuck on guys being bad are gone. We have rainbow flags in shops. I'm thrilled and I'm straight. Ps. 1. New York is shook they aren't mentioned representing the east. 2. Straight guys use backpacks mostly. Not small bags/cross body. 3. Skin care is Slowly starting to grow- we all know guys steal our creams on the low for their skin. More guys are getting mani/pedis..I think if you are fashion forward America will be like cool your not gay you just love clothes. However gay men LOVE labels and move different. There's heavy eye contact (3 second rule 😘) and heavy sexual energy looking at men, That gives off gay if you don't know or aren't sure. Straight guys look at another guy like "🤨" and gay guys look at another man like "😛😘😍"

*others* here to have an in depth discussion *Dongdoni* when I go to America I gotta know how to find a gay quick

For the record, Park Seo Joon is NOT Gay. Why is there a picture of him there that is false advertisement.

Yo los apoyo, no discrimino a nadie porque sean pareja del mismo sexo... Lo importante es que se amen . Que viva el amor!

Was showing a pic of PSJ just clickbait? Not good to do that.

I think there are clothes that can 'label' people (feminine fashion attributes, ie string strap - crop tops, chiffon blouses, 'pronounced' make-up etc which could label you other than what you were biologically born has. But I think that 'today's, male use skin, hair care products that their fathers would never been seen using or wearing. But this is 'conscious, careful' and well balanced effort by these 'individuals' by being on the 'edge' of looking good and 'well groomed' (please just be open and be your true you) 'always voicing' and ensuring that their 'masculinity' is never questioned . Which is a bit of a 'contradiction' (and 'excuse' ) for just wanting to 'look' good. I mean Honey..., just take a look at TikTok!.

My friends used to ask me if I was gay because I wear high socks. I am, but I know a lot of people that just wear 'em for fun.

When they were talking about fedoras, I immediately thought of GD. Than they literally pulled out his pic LOL.

David Icke said that cities create gay people. I tend to think he's accurate. I say this because in the cities everything is there for you. It creates leisure and from there it progresses but in the country and so forth a man has to be a man. He has to survive and feed his family so there's no room for that. So there is clearly a distinction from rural to city. I'll draw another example; in the inner cities people have to survive there on a daily basis so it is frowned upon to be gay as well as men and women but especially men need to survive and if you do not have the survival instincts then you will have a hard life. So I think social economic status determines whether you can even gravitate towards that lifestyle. If you have a strong support system parents who will support your feninity as a man then you have no worries but if you're born into parents that know you will not survive if you're perceived as gay then they will change your behavior. It sounds messed up but it is the truth and not everyone agrees with the truth.

why is the thumbnail shows a famous korean actor labeled as gay?

in more fashionable and liberal places like new york and california their is a lot less superstition like this

Vonn is great, I would definitely have him back again!!! He was amazing, I wish he was on Awesome World as well, they just had the worst guest from the US to represent Americans in a similar Q&A, I was honestly a bit upset, I don't normally get upset over that stuff but she was incredibly disappointing. Especilly to me because I feel like there are less women representing us out their in the world, but Vonn is the while package! Funny, smart, and charismatic and not because he is gay, he's just a cool dude! Thank you, keep up the good work!

I wish ALL guys would care for their skin. When you personally take such care of yourself who wants an old piece of shoe leather as we age together?! Lol Gay or straight I think all people should take care of their skin and appearance

I really enjoy your shows and this was an interesting video. I think Von does a great job of explaining how things are in America. He is right it depends on what state you are visiting or live in. I live in California so you see lots of straight guys especially asian dying their hair. Places like NY, Chicago, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Seattle and most of California being gay is no big deal. I didn’t think about the socks not sure it matters. Skinny jeans you see because straight guys are into leg and ass body building and want to show it off. I do think it has fallen our of fashion. Pink shirts was true but not now in most places. I know many straights that wear it but I don’t know about the south. I have lived in Philadelphia, Washington DC, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and now San Diego. Any guy with a clutch i would think gay. Makeup I would think gay but a fedora no. I know straight guys mostly Latin that wear fedora. I think an issue is when an guy is so polite and well mannered like a lot of asian guys people think gay. I think that is also changing a lot. Again it depends on where you are in USA. I been watching lots of asian BL series and have many gay asian friends. It has gotten me to be more bold in fashion. I would never have had a hand bag or shoulder bag but now I do/. Still not ready for makeup I don’t think it would look right. If I had hair I would color it in a second lol. It is so confusing to me that Korean guys are so much into fashion and skin care and makeup yet there is so much homophobia still. I would agree Jong you are easier to blend in there then most places in USA. You are very pretty which in areas not openly gay in USA would be an issue. Jun-young I wouldn’t think looking at him he is gay until he expresses himself. He is a handsome man I find him attractive. Von yes the hair gives it away and I love it. I think he has such a sexy voice. He is very handsome.

These are 3 beautiful babies❤

But being gay is not only about taking care of yourself or being beautiful, it's something else and I can definitely tell who's gay, Korean or other. My gaydar rarely miss a target. LOL

It is expanding in South Korea but... and there is always that but. The laws need to change to protect the LGBTQ communities in South Korea. Korean Confucians had used Confucian ideas, especially those advocating hierarchy and moral leadership, to bolster a powerful state bureaucracy to this day. Elders run the Government. Until those laws change, a lot of the Korean Gays will stay closeted.

Nice Conversation and helpful knowledge ❤️❤️

3:07 Then why the fedora hat is still related to Michael Jackson tho? 🤨 just my humble opinion

very funny & informative video !!!! thanks !!! :)

Von, I love you, but you were pretty far off point on a lot of the beginning questions, like, I remember fedoras being a nerd thing, not a gay thing, oh my...puka shell necklaces in the early 2000s though, omg. Literally those tight necklaces made out of shell, GAY ALERT xD. I know, I wore one on purpose since i was like 12 lmaoooo..still, i think it depends on the generation as well as the region..but i grew up ALL over the east coast, from Miami to Vineland, NJ, and grew up mostly right outside of Nashville, TN.

Rockers often wears skinny jeans 24-7