Mate, taht good to hear you are on the road to mending. Us Aussies need to look after each other and I for one don’t have a problem with paying taxes for health services. Anyway, I hope you are feeling better. Grüße aus Australien.

@@peterfromgw4615 yes. Getting there. Thanks 👍🏼

Hope your ok Julz and taking care, get well soon mate. ♥️ Fr: A fellow West Australian.

@@-sandman4605 cheers mate. I’m getting there. Thanks 👍🏼🇦🇺

Litre-a-blood? Is that French?

The RFDS is one of the things that I feel we Australians can be most proud.

This is why RFDS is on the $20 bill :)

The RFDS. Happy to pay taxes for it, and simultaneously hope the taxes all go to waste from lack of need of the RFDS.

RFDS are true angels! I donate all my spare change to them, which reminds me I need to go make another donation my jars getting full!

Been flown out a few times, go bleed once and they didn't think I would live. Last time I fell of a balcony about 3m and broke 25 bones. Fractured skull,17 ribs with punctured lungs 5 vertebrae, scapular,and my bldy toe, 3 weeks in coma and now I can irritate you 1 year later, buggerd up a bit but alive. Cost 0. But fuel costs for further treatment. How lucky am I. Rodeod in Canada and USA,if you get wrecked, fly home and live. Americans have the worst system in the world, but your government can pick a fight spending hundreds of millions on ways to kill people, and won't help their own people, including vets.

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@Shoahshana Goldberg-Shekelstein there’s evidence supporting that the highest taxed countries in the world are also the happiest. You know why? Cheap health care, very little to no tuition costs (not so much Australia but other European countries), public service jobs get payed well enough which then attracts good workers

@Shoahshana Goldberg-Shekelstein can you explain why I’m delusional and why it’s better to not get taxed?

Me to I could not emagin having no healthcare system like we do in Australia I wonder why Woolworths move to America knowing what’s it’s like if you get sick your stuffed unless your rich

@shoahshanagoldberg-shekels5253 you need to step out of your bubble and stop pretending that the world revolves around you and your main character syndrome. The US is the worst first world country, face it.

Thats just serious big pharma greed. What a ridiculous price per dose. We arent lucky for pandering to big pharma. But we are fortunate to have the discounted price.

My mum is in a similar position and luckily was able to access her particular meds through the government. I think hers was about $10k a week and she only needed to pay $5. Very grateful to not live in the US!

@@eurekaelephant2714 you will find that the dose cost at the early stages of a gs release are set to refund the research in making the drug. The price usually comes down over time on these things

@@victoriagill1588 yep, that and more excuses. I mean, its sad we believe that lie.

@@eurekaelephant2714 more than likely true, i have no doubt.

I don't need reminding.

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Yes, but we should strive for even better, ie better public dental services and better elective surgery waiting times

rubbish, only people in Australia who have money have it good, for pensioners and low income people life sucks and they have to wait years to get surgery and healthcare

@@johnschannel449 my husband and I have never waited year's for public healthcare, including surgery. We live on a very low income and life is great.

Americans are so brainwashed. Imagine kidney. liver, lung, pancreas etc transplant are all FREE in Australians public hospitals, while in US you will only. get this kind of transplants if you are rich. The PBS Scheme in Australia alone is genuinely huge achievement of the country. Through PBS, those greedy pharmaceutical corporations can't manipulate the pricing of medicines in Australia.

True enough. Just before the COVID shut downs started here, I went to see a Neurosurgeon at his private practice. Mostly because my GP said I needed to be seen urgently and that was the best way to see a specific specialist quickly. Because of my complicated health conditions he wouldn't do the surgery at a private hospital as they didn't have an ICU. I had to go to a public hospital to have the surgery. Funnily enough since I needed another surgery from before COVID, (for a different problem) The public hospital system is playing catch up and in VIC they are sending their back load of patients to private hospitals for treatment, just to try and catch up.

absolutely, my friend was diagnosed with cancer and she is treatetd at a public hospital with an option to go private. All the public hospitals are university based hospitals so they have the best specialists teaching the younger doctors to do their job well.

Our Health System is is being eroded by Health insurance companies feeding on the taxpayer teat. I believe we are being screwed when a health insurer starts putting limits on the number of times you have a particular treatment, scan, or hospital admittance on the one hand and "donates" to "worthy" charities that aren't charities, like football teams and arts festivals. It's my premium, paid to them for my health care. It isn't their money. They are also buying up medical practices, and forcing, through fees/reimbursement to use their "prefered provider", which is "retail price rigging" and illegal, but they get away with it. I call this the "American disease" - Profits before people.

@@davidstokes8441 yes I agree the private insurance companies here are trying to erode the system to their advantage. They would love to "Americanise" the system here because they'd make a fortune (at the expense of public health).

That all sounds VERY traumatising. 😱

@@chenilleoneil1289 I've never been the same, but I'm alive and kicking and live each day like it's my last now.

@@uknowispeaksense7056 yes of course after such incident no one could be the same physically or mentally and I can see you are living each day as your last because any day of life is a bonus after being on the brink. Sorry to be curious, but did they think you would die?

What I really appreciate is that if I don’t like my doctor or specialist, I can just get a different one (for people living in well enough populated areas of course). No fuss, just my Medicare card. IF I have to pay out of pocket, around 80% comes straight back. Free hospital care no matter where I go in the country makes travelling around easier too.

You're right about the parking lol, cost me $120 when my partner was in hospital for a week.

It costs more in parking fees than to see a doctor. A doctor is free in public hospitals but you have to pay for parking because the carr parks are privately owned.

thank god for pbs. best gov idea ever.

If it's about making money then why do Native Americans and illegal immigrants get free treatment?

@@youcantbeatk7006 Asking that question indicates you have no idea how the world works. Please spend some time on google. It's all there.

@@Ozgrade3 LMAO. Your point is so fragile, you can't even defend it from one extremely basic question.

@@youcantbeatk7006 I don't have to defend it - irrelevent question

You can get pet insurance, something to think about having pets because as you know they can be expensive.

There is a vet payment service called Vet Pay. I use it as I have 4 cats and an elderly dog. I set my limit that I can access for bill. It is at $500 right now but you can set it higher, and I can access at anytime like credit. Not all Vets allow this so check first. I set my repayments according to my income. I tried Pet Insurance and it pissed me off to be honest. Too much paper work and alot of fees. Had it for a while paid alot but to get new pets on it or get payments for bills was a nightmare. Vet pay is for me better as its accessible and I set my own financial limits. It took me one day and I have used it since. Im not promoting it but it just helps thats all. It like credit for the emergencies or big bills . With vets is can be a big bill anytime.

Tell me about it - a few years ago when one of my cats was a kitten, she had diarrhoea so I took her to the vet. 2 weeks and 3 visits later (with the diarrhoea now gone) he was trying to get something like $3k out of me for more treatments she supposedly needed. I was already about $450 in at that point but she was now the picture of health. Decided not to go ahead with the “treatment” he was recommending and instead went home and did some research and called my old, now retired, vet. Absolute bollocks. She didn’t need any further treatment at all and probably $150 or so of what is already spent was unnecessary. Can’t begin to imagine what this would be like if this was happening at the doctor and with the figures jacked up 10 fold!

Well... it DID cost you, that is unless youre on the rock n roll but working it will set you back 2% of your gross income which is pretty sh!t-hot for what you get and our healthcare system ain't too shabby a service, either... but it AIN'T free, just cheap as chips. I've had multiple operations that would have cost tens of thousands if not hundreds and ive had well over $500k of pharmas on the PBS for next to nix! 😉

@@danielsimpson6885 pet insurance is a crock. Vet pay is the way to go. No interest and you don't pay if you haven't been to the vet.

Awesome. Hope the twins are still doing wonderfully.❤️🇦🇺

@@julzhunt7790 thank you! They are doing amazingly well. Still tiny at age 3, like little dolls!💜💜

30 years ago it cost a little over $1000 AUD per day to keep my 26 week premmie in NICU. I can’t imagine what it would cost now. Thank god for our health system

If you earn a good income then you would pay more for the 1.5% MLS than it costs to just have the private insurance.

I have gone through chemo/radiotherapy myself and am now on immunotherapy at 2000 dollars a pop. My GI surgeon who works at the best private hospital in town did the operation because he operates once a month at Monash public hospital.

I agree. In my own case the Dept of Veteran Affairs put in a wheelchair ramp for my WWII veteran father, renovated his bathroom so that it was a wet/shower room and installed a toilet suite in the bathroom, provided him with mobility aides and installed a device that would notify a service that he had had a fall. They provided him with in home care as well. They also gave him a grant towards my mother’s funeral and a grant to the family when he passed on. He had a Gold card too.

@@judileeming1589 yes, they are wonderful. And unlike Centrelink, if you phone Veterans Affairs with any concerns, you easily get to speak to real people who go out of their way to help.

@@judileeming1589 My dad, an ex WW2 pilot, over New Guinea, wouldn't approach DVA, due to pride I guess, but a bit of convincing by my brother, myself, and a friend from the airforce club, got him ringing the dept. He got everything he needed, and more. Sadly he passed away from the dreaded lung cancer in 2013, but for DVA, things would have been harder for him. I did stuff around the house, and cooked his meals, and yard work outside. And the help from District Nurses was a godsend too. Lovely ladies they were. Total respect for veterans. If anyone reading this is a veteran, and are in need of help, don't hesitate to get assistance, you are entitled to it. I'm glad we pushed dad to get it.

@@brianmorris8045 Much respect to your Father! My Grandfather was a WW2 pilot. As a child I relentlessly harassed him for his war stories, but he rarely spoke about them. Only ever willing to tell me a few things, like him escorting bombers and flying under powerlines. The only act of aggression he spoke of was about shooting at train engines.

I worked as medical receptionist and remember the 'DVA gold card' I hadn't seen or heard about it before that but think it is truly wonderful to take care of those who served and their partners and am proud of the govt for providing this.

no it is true. Public and private hospitals are often next to each other. The emergency department in the public hospital will have ramping problems while the private one, that changes you five hundred dollars to be an emergency patient, will often have very little wait time. Also elective surgery. I know of people who have been waiting years for joint replacements in the public system. But private patients just wait a couple of months. I had an elective surgery and was offered a date that week- not an emergency. In the public system it would take months as it wasn't urgent.

Except that does not contradict Seyha's point about triage. Even if there is ramping, if you have severe chest pain or trauma or anything immediately life threatening, you will be seen straight away. Your wait is based on acuity. Same with outpatient appointments/elective surgery. Yes, people wait years for joint replacements. Months for other things. But if you get cancer you will have your operation next week. If you break your hip you'll get surgery in the next 24 hours. I think that's the benefit of a dual system. We get excellent quality care in the public system. If you have an accident or severe illness, go public. But if you have something non life threatening and you can afford it, go private for shorter waits

@@Amy-oj2st I had cataract surgery years ago in Westmead hospital and I know from talking to other patients in the waiting room that I zipped right through the waiting list. Something like a fortnight from first appointment to surgery. I was 30 though with a small child and the majority of other patients were 70 plus and retired with between 12 and 18 months waiting. I had that lens replaced again recently and had a wait of 8 weeks, compared to the 4 that was offered if I went private. They definitely prioritise people on urgency. Does depend on your definition of urgent though!

I can vouch for that. At a public hospital I went in with a minor feeling cardiac symptom...as soon as I got past triage, I was seen by a doctor, xrayed and ECGd within 15 minutes. No cost. OTOH, while on chemotherapy i went to my private hospital where I was being treated with symptoms that could have related to infection of a PIC line. I was seen by senior emergency surgeon within...what, 15 seconds. As it was after-sales service, also no charge (well, my insurer paid, I guess)

@@MsJubjubbird Elective Surgery is not the same as Emergency Surgery. And my 82 year old mother only had to wait 3 months to get her knee replaced as she was still getting around OK compared to others.

Wow. That's incredible! How's he doing on it now?

The tac paid for the lot not Medicare

I'm glad he's doing great now, still amazed by how great our healthcare system can be

Holy hell, that's intense. So glad you're ok. Also glad you got to get treated in Australia and didn't go bankrupt from it.

@@becp488 Thank you. Yes it was intense. I'm so lucky and grateful for the care that I received.

Wow great timing being near home I mean. I hope you have a speedy recovery and the best of luck for the future ❤🌹

a mate of mine used to get bad headaches and pass out, turned out he was having these mini strokes. they flew him to europe to have the offending blood vessels sorted by firing laser beams or some shit through his brain. each on their own wont do any damage but where they intersect you get the required heat so they can literally move a tiny hotspot around inside your brain, cool huh. didnt cost him bugger all. another had hep c, the course of pills cost upwards of $20000, cost to her was $6.50.

@@danielponiatowski7368 amazing what they can do these days, isn't it? This shunt that I have implanted basically drains the fluid in my brain and into my digestive tract. It sits under my scalp and there is a dial that can be turned using a special magnet to regulate the amount being drained. They've had to adjust the setting once and it was the strangest feeling as I could hear and feel the dial being turned as they turned the magnet around.

I completely agree. I would pay more.

I'm with you. I love that no one has to suffer unnecessarily and proud that I've helped since I was 15 and now I'm a pensioner it's been worth every cent. Never let a politician touch our health care. America is a lost cause.

I totally agree too, as I'm ageing and in my late 60's I'm accessing they system more and have had top service. I'm also impacted with limited mobility issues and have government "Aged Care In The Home" assistance for an hour per week plus robotic vacuum, walker, and emergency alarm the cost to me is $9p/hour for the 1hour help the rest subsidised by Medicare.

I’m on NDIS and it’s definitely a headache, but I’d rather have a headache than not be here to have one, that’s for sure.

@@lilgnomey hi. I know how you feel. Just getting on NDIS is a battle in itself so congratulations. I'm don't know your specific problem but the ndis is way better than not having it. I hope that you are getting the assistance you need if not and it's tough just keep pushing. My sister had a neronological issues and got huge amount of help. So don't give up.

I'm likely to need a heart valve replacement in the coming 5 or so years time, which state are you in, and did you have private heath insurance or purely Medicare? Also, did you have to wait to be symptomatic or did you get surgery as a preventative (which could be my situation as the the valve has be working overtime since birth).

@@fromscratchauntybindy9743 I live in Victoria, the operation in was done at St. Vincent's and it was all on Medicare.I in was in hospital for one week Being a man, I had ignored the symptoms and my G.P. picked up the problem during a general check up.Within a a short time frame I was classified a priority patient and it all happened very quickly.Essentially, my heart was working so hard, if I did not have the replacement surgery my heart would have conked out and they estimated I would have died within two years Good luck.You have nothing to fear.

i don't think that's bad at all, like 85kg can be bad depending on your size and you being 6ft and 85 isn't, especially if you're pretty much muscle

Yeah, the bmi is a completely faulty system and even the creator of it said it should not be used on individuals as a metric.

I'm 183 cm tall and I weighed 92kg, started exercising properly, went down to 85kg burning fat, then back up to 90kg developing muscle tissue and the GP said my BMI was bad! I said ok, find the excess fat. No luck, but the GP said it's internal fat.*sigh* I found a new GP, who said he'd kill for my blood pressure.

Universal healthcare is socialism. And that is good.

Oh you are so right, a country that lets its citizens on the lower rung of life suffer is NOT A COMPASSIONATE OR CARING COUNTRY.It may put on a false mask but underneath that is the face of greed.So sad.

It is funny, Americans accept a 'socialised' military, highway system, police forces etc etc, but health care is a bridge too far...

@@politenessman3901 I think that the Obama care health system as they called it,that was to be introduced,but it got dumped because all the rich and well off complained loud and long, about being taxed to suport helping the less well off......again selfishness and greed win out.

@Bill Hollingsworth The way we do it is not “true” socialism. If it was we wouldn’t have the need for fundraising and wealthy philanthropists. It is inspired by socialist beliefs and I’m all for it. Our politics is more central and that is why we take good ideas from the left and the right. We don’t accept dogma. It’s one of the great things about being Australian.

To be fair there are Careflight and a number of other groups doing the same thing although I think the RFDS and CF are the only ones with jets. I know there was a 10 day period a couple of years ago when the Careflight jet logged over 40,000 kms in 10 days. All these organisations are amazing.

@@JohnJ469 I believe the difference, other than the jets which you already mentioned, is that careflight and Westpac choppers are usually entirely run on donations and local council whereas the RFD is a more nationalised thing, could wrong or missing some info bit I think that's what it is 🤔

@@unoriginalsyn They're all run on donations and some support from government, but mostly donations from people all around the country. They're all charities. Even things like the Westpac choppers aren't owned by Westpac, they just got the naming rights because of the size of the annual donations. It's the same way "Suncorp Stadium" in Brisbane got its name.

Our Flying Drs are amazing but the problem in WA is that there is only 2 jets as the previous state liberal govt cut a lot of their funding. The new Labor govt is buying an extra jet that we should have at the end of the year. Many regional towns have patients waiting for transport to Perth only to have the plane diverted 1hr out of the town to a more serious case. Priority should be given to seriously ill, but if you break your hip in Albany don’t expect to be flying to Perth that evening (or for 3 days) if there is a crash near Geraldton (800km away) with severe head injuries. Don’t romanticise that the RFDS will get to you quickly in the outback, they are only human and need more funds, please donate.

@@allycook3926 At least tell the damn truth. Rio Tinto is buying the jet not the WA ALP government. Rio is fronting $15 million for the purchase. Nor can I find a single article about the former Liberal government cutting funding. I did see that the Morrison government was giving $1 billion over 10 years to the RFDS in March and I'll bet you never heard about that. I'm also sure Albo will keep it in the budget, thank goodness. However I do agree that people should donate. What you say about waits is unfortunately very true. And it's not just in WA. I'm aware of an incident in NSW where a pregnant woman was being flown to hospital but the chopper had to put down and transfer her to a road ambulance so it could attend a serious road accident. The reality is that there are many times where there are more people needing flying than there are aircraft or choppers. Too many think these organisations only fly a few people a week. The RFDS flew over 100k people last year, around 2,000 per week. They have 79 aircraft so that's 3.5 flights per day per aircraft 24/7. When someone calls you from the RFDS or Careflight or any of these organisations, please donate. And a big shout out to the Australian Army Engineers who make and maintain some of those dirt strips in the middle of nowhere.

unfortunately Ashley, this fellow has no clue what he is actually hearing, and does not take into account that the Aussie dollar is worth 2/3 of the American dollar, making these prices quoted even more amazing.

@@apple1662 $421 would be $288 usd, so wouldn’t he be thinking we pay *more* than we actually do?

@@s-c.. That's literally what he said. " the Aussie dollar is worth 2/3 of the American dollar, making these prices quoted even more amazing."

do you understand that abortion hasn't been made illegal? it's up to individual states. did you know 1 in 5 pregnancies ends in abortion.

America's infant mortality rate is also higher than Australia. As is it's under 5 mortality rate.

we still need private insurance for dental and optometry.

@@ssp4795 no, we don’t. I just pay cash when I need it. It doesn’t break the bank and a few years ago when I was unemployed for a while, I got 8000 dollars worth of dental under a care plan that my doctor organised.

@@astrogeeknerd9960 do you think that's available to everybody? free hospital dental is not easily available and only for welfare recipients (how that that fair? enjoy your free dental on my tax dollars) Also you used the word "I". Do you have a family or are you speaking for yourself as an unemployed single person?

@@ssp4795 free hospital dental is available for all those that need it. So thank you, I will enjoy spending your tax dollars when my general health is at risk due to a dental problem. And I now invite anyone who is doing it tough to spend my tax dollars on their health, because I can now afford my own. Not with insurance, but I pay cash when I need it. And since I needed that help I have paid a LARGE amount of tax, don’t you worry. I have a question for you, do you know how much of an asshole you sound like when you make these dumbass right wing sound bite comments like “spending my tax dollars”. I mean it’s such a stupid argument. Do you really, seriously want poor people to die in the street? Have you considered what happens to crime rates when health outcomes are expensive? I mean why is simple empathy so lacking in you?

Same I got bucked of a horse and broke my coccyx bone, factured hip and broke my t12; like you I spent 2.5 weeks in hospital, multiple scans and painkillers, then walked put bill free!

There is a culture of preventative medicine in Australia that doesn't exist in the US. This is because the Australian healthcare system is publicly funded. It's cheaper to knock an issue on the head before it gets worse. I see my GP twice a year. One time for my prescriptions and again for a check up, including blood tests. If there is any untoward in my blood tests (which hasn't happened yet), my GP will make an appointment for me. All covered by Medicare.

The obesity thing is a good example of pay for performance, with doctors being paid to refer to dietitians etc to address the problem before it gets out of hand, along with testing overweight people for diabetes, again to catch it before it causes long term problems. Our obesity rate was rising, but now it's stable because of this stuff

I have cancer as well and I have private insurance.I get treated in both the private and public system they synchronise well. My operations have been in private that gives me my own room and toilet and shower. I’m happy with the system.

@@nevilleapple629 that's awesome. Thankfully anyone with cancer is given a private room due to the risk of infection. I hope you have a complete and swift recovery. It's a terrible disease but in saying that I still found it had a slight upside. Blessings to you mate.🙃

Do you mean a MRI?

Good for you, when i shattered my collar bone i was told by the hospital if i want to see the results i had to pay $78. they didn't even give me a sling for my arm i made my own. I was 14 at the time and spent about 3 hours in the waiting room. glad there's at least a few good stories from the Aussie system

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It is because I now pay $6.80 for a script and the places that I go do the $1 discount that came in a couple of years ago.

I’d say my experience is similar. When I was growing up, my family was under the low income threshold. So whilst oddly my father liked a local GP who did charge for every consultation instead of bulk billing, he always got half his money back anyway. Through the Medicare rebate, I think it was called? I’ve had some awesome experiences in the Public Hospital, I’ve had some awful ones. Whenever I had to see a private specialist, I usually got a bit “pampered” lol But you’re right, the waiting list is outrageous! I always told myself as a kid that I’d go private once I earned enough cash. But I dunno. Haven’t yet. No doubt our system could be improved obviously. But I like not having to worry about healthcare payments/insurance. I’ll probably get it eventually, just in case I do need to see a specialist in the future But for now I’m happy to simply support Medicare and it’s services through my tax dollars as that benefits us all

Yes, Felicity but only for elective surgery, even so I waited only a couple of months for my knee replacement in Covid time, though it is WA and at that time we were virtually covid free. My son was diagnosed with severe dermatomyosities, with CK levels in the thousands and once the specialist got the results she rang him to get to the hospital ASAP, no private health insurance mind you, him being a 20 year old student. Yes he had to wait 4 hours for a bed.

I'm in Brisbane and in the public system here, I waited less then a month before getting my first appointment. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the Victorian system. Their wait times are still upwards of a year. I also know, with emergencies, there is no wait time. I've never paid for private insurance as I find the public system isn't so bad..compared to the States, we are damn blessed🙏

I think the video he is watching was also made before covid- when the hospitals went into freefall. We have serious ramping issues in public hospitals but I know people who have private health insurance and have just paid the extra cash to get into a private hospital and not had to wait.

Hi l am on the DSP also, l dont have private health insurance, what does it cost you per year, is it cheaper for people on the DSP

My understanding is that in the US they still take the baby away from the mother and, right now in the 21st Century and keep then in a seperate nursery. It is like they are stuck in the 1940s.

I am sure many Americans give birth at home because of this.

I don't think any system is perfect, but ours is better than most, in many European countries a lot more is "free" (covered by the system) but you can't choose your GP, you have to go to the GP assigned to your area, if you aren't happy with the level of care you get from that GP there's nothing you can do. A friend of mine, his mum went to hospital for a hip replacement and the doctors there found she had late stage cancer, she had been seeing the local GP for the symptoms of that cancer for over 2 years and the local GP just dismissed it as "getting old", so had she had a better GP or been able to get a second opinion she might be still alive. My point is a completely "free" system is not necessarily better, but nor is a completely private system, Australia's system gets the balance about right, you pay a little but not an excessive amount, if your not happy with the doctors answer, you can get a second or even third opinion from another doctor. The only thing I would change with our system is to include essential dental coverage, but my private health care covers that, but I know that people who need to see a dentist miss out because they can't afford that.

The best bit is the Australian system is actually designed to scale well, it would actually be cheaper per person if we had 330 million people because the government would have stronger bargaining power when negotiating the costs of those medications.

The US government pays more per capita for healthcare than almost any other first world country, so public healthcare would actually be cheaper because it would cut out a lot of the bullshit costs that insurance companies tack on.

Stop being a thief

Will cost you thousands in USA - ex GF was American & daughter broke her arm $20K as she had insurance she owed $500 only.

I have the BEST Private health cover money can buy, but even then you still pay a little towards each physio visit . What cover is giving you completely free visits?

@@PeterJohnson76if that’s emergency at the first place it’s completely free. Everything. It’s not private hospital when I stayed initially though. But I’m grateful enough. It’s paid by Medicare. Everyone has Medicare. I didn’t have private health. I still don’t but I’m looking into it. 😊

I question if the reaction of certain US politicos to the notion of universal healthcare is quite as discriminating or nuanced as you say.

yep my son had an accident at work, brokE a few ribs, had a pneumothorax, ended in Hospital, was off work for 4 months on full pay, physio for months, not a cent to pay, LOVE AUSTRALIA.

Agreed, my dad only waited for about a week for bypass surgery after the issue was diagnosed

those procedures are important. They are just not deemed immediately life threatening. I admit our elective surgery system needs work

Five via c-section! Your poor uterus! I hope you've healed well ❤

I think that's how most Australians do it 🤔 seems the smart way to me anyway lol

but if you elect to use your private health cover if you are admitted in a public hospital, a portion of it is given to the public hospital which really helps with funding especially now when hospital funding is very tight

I find that hard to believe. I have top cover Hospital and extra's and its $73 a week just for me. And it has been going up every year. Most people who have inexpensive health cover in Australia will find their cover doesn't even cover 50% of costs, and that is a fact. Many people take out the super low cost entry level Private covers just so they can say they have Private cover even though the cover is extremely limited. Get top cove and you would be paying triple that. Personally I think Australia is starting to go backwards here with all this push for private cover. Not only is it amoral and we will end up like the US, its also pure greed. We have already paid for Medical cover via the medicare fee we all pay when working. Its Howard who pushed Private here, and now we have a bastardized system with the Libs waiting till enough sheep have been brainwashed so they can scrap medicare.

Get a bit of a deal through the wife's work but the most I've paid for dental is $28 for a filling, all the check ups and cleans etc have been covered. It has been going up but the only paying the rate of a 30 year old is set for life, provided we maintain cover

Yes I'm in the UK and paid to see a private consultant about something. He told me the wait would be about the same whichever system I chose. Naturally I chose NHS. it turned out to be the same surgeon. The only difference was I was no longer regaled by his extremely iffy jokes under the NHS.

But the US the Covid infection rate is lower because unless you are in hospital you are not counted. If you are homeless, or are sick at home or in a nursing home, they don’t include these in official figures.

Oh yeah, during the first phase of COVID some one from the US said that Australia had no where near the infection rate of the US but we were still having massive lock downs. When I said the reason we have much lower infection rates is because of the lock downs. I was sworn at and Australia was called a nanny state. Call it what ever they like. I know where I'd rather live.

@@njsmkmmsthatsit3518 the infection rate was low due to lockdowns, and obviously the objective of protecting the vulnerable until we had a vaccination or effective treatment such as an anti viral drug was “mostly” effective, because since vaccination became available, infections have exploded. I am in the at risk 1AB group who was vaccinated first and have actually had 4 vaccinations so far, and know we have an overwhelming duty to say THANK YOU to the younger and healthier Australians that sacrificed so much during lockdowns to keep us safe.

But high taxes 🤫

@@Adityaclone4 actually if you do the math, the US is taxed higher for less service. There is a video that outlines this case. Australia gets better value than the US from taxes paid.

@@oneshot4826 Show me the video please

@@Adityaclone4 Look for the video from, Davis Cross, why America sucks at everything. It can be confronting for Americans who have been brainwashed into believing they're the best, when in actual fact the US in many parts is no better than the third word.

@@Adityaclone4 David Cross.