American Unlocks Portuguese Healthcare With This TRICK

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Rosemary (American from New Mexico) talks to Kalie from ExpatsEverywhere about how she arrived in Portugal and quickly realized that she needed a little assistance navigating the healthcare system in Portugal.
Portugal has one of the top healthcare systems in Europe but it is different to what she's used to so she details what she did in hopes that it helps you. You might be able to avoid some of her mistakes by following her advice throughout.
She lets you know how she prepared for her move from a medical perspective as well as tells her story of the first time she met with her doctor in Portugal. There's also a service she used that she wished she had started using a month or two before her move. Like most people though, the visa process and those other bits of moving took front and center in her mind as she and her husband, Stu, planned their move in mid-2021.
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@rosemarybaker8126 2 жыл бұрын

The service is €10 NOT $10. Oops!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the correction, Rosemary. We appreciated you opening up on the topic and giving this interview. - Josh & Kalie

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

€10 is starting point. It really depends on the clinical situation of the person. Can be €10 or €15 or €20.... some situations are much more demanding than others.

@NamasTeTe1 2 жыл бұрын

@@serenity4558 Hi, do you work only in Portugal or also on n Spain? Do you have a website? We’re looking for a similar service for our move to Spain.

@Dinom-tt5wz 2 жыл бұрын

Still, compared to the $900 USD i paid PER MONTH in Los Angeles... I'm in!!!

@hellophoenix 2 жыл бұрын

@@serenity4558 Michael , I almost gave up hope in retiring in Portugal because of my chronic back pain , yes it’s mild but I still need the support system provided by family, friends and professionals. I was worried I won’t be able to find that kind of help in Portugal until I saw you on Expat Portugal youtube show and later I checked your website. You offer everything I need : home care , doctors visits and physical therapy at home . The one that caught my attention is in the rare occasion I might get muscle spasms ( once a year ) and I become immobile for a couple of weeks , you have people to help me with grocery shopping and house cleaning . I haven’t even heard of the term “ medical concierge “ before that interview My plan is to retire in Portugal within a year and you’ll be the first people I’ll contact in Portugal .

@RumblestripDotNet 2 жыл бұрын

The next level, especially for those looking to retire in PT would be to talk to ex-pats who have longer term chronic issues and how they deal with it, and how the heath care system works for that. Examples would be people with autoimmune issues, cancer survivors, and the like.

@sorayar5651 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rumblestrip, I completely agree with your statement. We have been trying to ask these questions but weren’t able to get the right answers yet.

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

@@sorayar5651 we are happy to assist you, in case you need. ☺

@Ferreira019760 2 жыл бұрын

@@rayvogensen2983 if I may cut in, just to add what I feel is an important detail. As I see it the main reason for the family doctor was to have someone who would follow the patient consistently and keep record of the medical history. A few years ago, perhaps motivated by shortage of doctors, a national database was introduced and theoretically every appointment the patient has should be recorded, so no matter where you go within the country any doctor has access to it. One might think that seeing a random doctor could take longer due to not being familiar with the patient’s history, we need to take into account that family doctors usually have between 1000 to 2000 patients assigned to them which means it will be a lucky shot that the family doctor would know the patient’s history by heart. In most cases where that would happen it would probably be unfortunate as that means the patient stood out for some reason, potentially a complicated health problem that drew particular interest. Most people will see a doctor in their area, but you can get close to the same experience as possible when traveling within national borders. It’s not perfect by any stretch of imagination but that’s roughly what is available. Also sometimes not having a family doctor can be a plus, as if you go to your local health center and your doctor doesn’t really care that much you are stuck and the admin staff will always prioritize your assigned doctor unless that doctor is unavailable. So there are positive and negative aspects to it, it really helps if you have a dedicated doctor and you have the misfortune of dealing with a chronic illness that is still being designated as a syndrome, meaning there is still not much known about it and you may face a barrage of questions every time you see a different doctor. People will be people, we are all flawed in some way and having an MD doesn’t make anyone different in that aspect. That being said, most doctors are decent and caring people who will go the extra mile for their patients, sometimes they are just so overworked that they may come across as a tad rough when it comes to bedside manners. Also a shout out to the amazing work the nurses do, they didn’t become heroes because of the pandemic, they’ve always been there for us in a time of need and across the globe we should remember them more often and show more appreciation. It doesn’t take much, sometimes just remembering that they are human beings too with all the potential problems that everyone of us can have. Sorry for the lengthy text, in my experience everything you said is correct, I just wanted to add this. Stay safe everyone.

@terrisokolow7796 2 жыл бұрын

Great interviews, Kalie! Health care, in any country, should be #1 for everyone!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Terri! 😁 - Josh & Kalie

@user-oo9rt3or2o 7 ай бұрын

These would be considered as preexisting (to your adherence to insurance plan) conditions and in most cases would be excluded from the coverage of your policy. Please remember: a preexisting condition doesn’t mean you cannot have private insurance; it means that a specific condition would not be covered by the policy. When asking for a proposal from an insurance company, make sure you have a professional (we would advise medical) consultation. Understanding the future implications of exclusions is of great importance! Regardless of the insurer's approach to preexisting conditions, the public institutions will always treat all your needs.

@wg933 2 жыл бұрын

As always, you guys are hitting the right topics! Very informative & very much appreciated. Thanks

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to know. Thank you, WG. We appreciate it. - Josh & Kalie

@nataliegray2130 2 жыл бұрын

This was really helpful and I have an appointment with them tomorrow to find out more. Great job Kalie!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic to hear, Natalie! We're looking forward to hearing how it goes. Thank you. - Josh & Kalie

@jeffreybarnes3604 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks yet again -- you guys keep solving my problems! :)

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for the message. It's great to hear that our videos are doing that for you. - Josh & Kalie

@dianeosoba8981 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful information! Thank you!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear it, Diane. - Josh & Kalie

@Stopit77 2 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks so much!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome, Cindy! Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie

@Lion-fj3wp 2 жыл бұрын

I just love your sit-down interviews. Thanks so much for the information 👋🌍

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

🙌 Thanks for the love. We're really happy to hear that feedback. - Josh & Kalie

@Doey46 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview with my sister. Glad you are friends...👍❤✌️

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! She's a great friend to us. - Josh & Kalie

@frankmealha8918 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the content, very informative

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Our pleasure! - Josh & Kalie

@kaybee390 2 жыл бұрын

Really great information here! Thanks for sharing!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful, Kelly. Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie

@ronshea6970 2 жыл бұрын

Obrigado for another helpful video to take the mystery out of being an expat in Portugal!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Ron. It's what we're trying to do and we're blessed to be doing it full-time right now. - Josh & Kalie

@tamirose787 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a real life experience of the health care system in Portugal. It was so nice to hear that the doctors take time with you and that there are services available to assist you with the process. Thank you for this content. Very helpful.

@nanaofaiden9743 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Amazing info! ❤

@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome! We're glad you enjoyed it! - Josh & Kalie

@alessandrosilva4441 2 жыл бұрын

If you intend to be a "digital nomad", you will certainly use English almost all the time. However, if you intend to live in a certain country, it is very important to learn the local language. It's not just about cultural immersion, but it can be a matter of necessity. For example, resolving a health issue or even dealing with an emergency situation. It's not a sure thing to always find an English speaker when you need it.

@hellophoenix 2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you and I started learning Portuguese the minute I started thinking about retiring in Portugal

@SilVia-hs2kb 2 жыл бұрын

@@hellophoenix Make sure it's European Portuguese. Most online language services are in South American Portuguese. Although its the same language there's huge differences in grammar, accent and loads of expressions and words.

@helenaborgespereira8272 2 жыл бұрын

traduzir em português

@MrMiguelForster Жыл бұрын

There are 100s of countries where Id agree, but portugal is truly very proficient in english on average. Its almost impossible to find someone who doesnt speak it under the age of 50

@trave7644 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kalie. This is helpful.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. We're glad it's been helpful. Thanks for the support. It's people like you that make what we do possible. - Josh & Kalie

@trave7644 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere 👍 Hope your trip is going well.

@tippywyatt 2 жыл бұрын

Great info! Learned a lot!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! We just got off the phone with Serenity and they're wanting to help us host some live event in Porto where we talk about Portuguese food, wine, beer, and culture. Are you in? 😁 - Josh & Kalie

@JenShea 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview Kalie!!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jen. 😁 - Josh & Kalie

@hatersgonnahate4343 2 жыл бұрын

I used this company through the link attached, and it went flawlessly. Highly recommend this service. Thank you Kalie for all your help ❤️

@mayaraguitar3472 2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for the quality content, guys. 🥰

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

🙌 Fantastic! You're welcome. We're glad you like it. - Josh & Kalie

@victorpimenta41 2 жыл бұрын

Not what I was looking for but still so very helpful Ty

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

We're glad it was helpful. What were you looking for? - Josh & Kalie

@Ms13indra 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this video Kalie. Again… 😉👏🏼🙋🏻‍♀️

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome! 🙌 We're happy to do it. - Josh & Kalie

@rebeccagutierrez1960 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview, Kalie. And I must say I just love the top you have on.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, thank you! For both things. 😊 - Kalie

@christinabayma119 Жыл бұрын

That was very helpful. I’d love to hear more about dentistry and optometry.

@mongofan1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Alex

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Alex. Thanks for the comment. - Josh & Kalie

@ladyloquitavida148 2 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT video Kalie!! The information provided was extremely helpful and I plan to check Serenity out once we arrive in Porto. Thank you for taking on this very important topic, especially for those of us over 60! Hope to see you and Josh in February! 👍👍🇵🇹

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We appreciate the message. We're glad to produce stuff like this for our viewers. 😊 We hope to see you too. Keep us posted on your arrival. - Josh & Kalie

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lady Loquita, we will be happy to assist upon your arrival however many of our clients had doubts and questions long before arrival do PT and we were able to ease some of their concerns. Feel free to contact us at your convenience. ☺

@ladyloquitavida148 2 жыл бұрын

@@serenity4558 Thank you very much! I will contact you directly! 👍 We will be visiting February 4th through the 18th, and our final move date will be towards the middle of May. My husband and I are looking forward to chatting with you and your organization! ❣

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

@@ladyloquitavida148 Looking forward to talk to you❤

@zuchs1969 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great service!! Its very daunting trying to navigate the medical system when Portuguese is not your first language. Thank you for all the your hard work you are both doing ❤

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

We're glad you think so, Caroline. Thank you very much for your kind message. We appreciate it! - Josh & Kalie

@luisrivas1097 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Kalie. Thank you so very much for the information. I was wondering once you find a doctor and all the other services needed in Portugal, do you need to continue with Serenity.

@rosemarybaker8126 2 жыл бұрын

You can quit Serenity at any time. There are no contracts.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Luis, thanks! Rosemary beat us to the answer. 😁 You can quit at any time. - Josh & Kalie

@luisrivas1097 2 жыл бұрын

@@rosemarybaker8126 Obrigado Rosemary. Great information. =)

@WeaveTheStory 2 жыл бұрын

Great firsthand interview and insight on health system in PT. Hope you're recovering well Kalie!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Sophian. Thanks for watching too. - Josh & Kalie

@JuanMoreno-wo5yb 2 ай бұрын

“Now let’s get moving”. I wish I was already there though!

@jessicamagenheimer4095 2 жыл бұрын

Apologies if I missed it - is there a website for Serenity? Thank you for this super helpful video Rosemary and Kalie!

@lucchese20 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jessica-The website for Serenity is in the video description. Cheers. 👍🏻

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

It's okay, Jessica. Like Maurice said, it's in the video descriptions just under where we typed what the video is about. - Josh & Kalie

@kategreen9647 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere I actually do not see it in the short blurb about the video:(

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

@@kategreen9647 Here it is..Serenity Portugal (Her Healthcare Solution) serenity-portugal.com/pulso-en If you do decided to us them, use code "expats2022".

@jimmiewhite 2 жыл бұрын

Serenity provides a great service.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Jim. - Josh & Kalie

@Aotruba 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tips and informative links. For real estate questions, who would you recommend?

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. Email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com so she can pass you that info. - Josh & Kalie

@sorayar5651 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kalie. This video was outstanding! Amazing content on a very important subject such as health care. Since we are planning to retire in PT, we would be also very interested in learning about long term care. I heard that they don’t have nursing homes. It is very hard to find this type on information from the US. I guess you could add this subject to your list of future videos. A very important topic for retirees. What would be our options at a later stage of life? Thanks again. You and Josh are great!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Soraya. We're glad to do it. We're trying to get better with every passing video. We learn new stuff and try to implement it when possible. 😊 Regarding the long term care, it's another tricky one for us to do on our own so we'll keep our eye out for interviewees (like Rosemary) that can help us with firsthand accounts. - Josh & Kalie

@antoniodasilva1230 2 жыл бұрын

Nursing homes are called senior citizen homes

@sorayar5651 2 жыл бұрын

@@antoniodasilva1230 Hi Antonio, thank you for your feedback. I am assuming that you are Portuguese. Can you elaborate a little more? If a retired person needs to go into a facility because he or she is no longer able to take care of themselves, which will be the options in Portugal? I wasn’t able to find much information online and this is an important subject for my husband and I to consider when moving to PT as retirees. I am trying to compare costs and determine availability of this option. We wish to retire in PT but we are not sure yet if we will need to go back to the US later in life…

@sorayar5651 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks a lot Kalie. We are looking forward to hear from you guys on this subject 😀

@antoniodasilva1230 2 жыл бұрын

In Portugal nursing homes are called lar para idosos might cost under one thousand our two thousand per month its way cheaper than in the USA definitely cheaper i know because my father was in one and my sister is the head RN at the Westhamton senior home on Long Island N.Y

@sherillfranke1846 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video content! Thanks Kalie. We are definitely looking into this service. Does it work all over Portugal or just in Porto where you live? Was the $10 per month for both her and her husband? You guys are great! 💪

@rosemarybaker8126 2 жыл бұрын

The €10 per month is per person. So, €20 to cover both.

@paulorocha4194 2 жыл бұрын

Unless a foreigner won't be allowed to apply for the SNS (our National Health System) nobody needs a private insurance health plan. You can pay for one just to have a quicker doctor appointment on some specialties. For the rest, stay in the public system. It's not perfect but it works.

@ninahuffman8100 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the info!!! Is there any way to contact to Rosemary ? Email ? Have questions regarding their move to Portugal. Thanks in advance!!!

@Dinom-tt5wz 2 жыл бұрын

Really nice interview with great questions and pacing... is Kalie the next KATIE?? Couric??

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

HAHA, that's hilarious, Dean. Thanks for the message. - Josh & Kalie

@opphisse 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kalie, thanks for this helpful video. I plan to move to Portugal and will buy private health insurance. However, I would also want to take advantage of the public health system (SNS). Do you know if US citizens who get legal residency status in Portugal qualify for the SNS? Some websites say yes, while others say you can only participate if your employed and have taxes withheld, or opt in and pay a monthly fee. Thanks to you and Josh for the great videos.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, you're welcome. Thanks for watching. After we did our SEF residency confirmation appointment, we signed up for SNS. That's been our experience. We got our "Utente" numbers and that allows us to register for things like the vaccine or Valencia's regular vaccines for kids. Thanks for the support. - Josh & Kalie

@opphisse 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Great! Thanks again.

@jorgemateus7016 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Utente.

@arturjcrebelo3275 2 жыл бұрын

By law any legal resident person have the right to free health care, you have a process to register in the public healthcare. Need small paper work, first need to prove that you live in that "place". Need to go to your city hall with your rental contract a utility bill (like electric or water bill) if you buy a house you need to take with you your house registration in your name, they give you a paper that state that you live in that City/town, and go to your local health center (I know a Japonese women that live in Estefânia (Lisbon) and she want to make her registration in Sete Rios Health center), when her local health center was in the same street where she live. And in your right local health center with that paper (from the City hall) they going to give a A4 paper that state some information about you and more important a SNS number we in Portuguese call "Numero de Utente". You need to know this number every time you need to go to any Hospital, health center or even a private hospital because this number give to doctors all information about you, they have a database your chronic diseases, your medication, your vacine status, the last time they prescribe antibiotics or drug to pain even your allergies and even some blood test, CT scan and RX). Because i had a kidney stone last month they want a kidney ultrasound i make that exam in a private clinic (but i pay only 2€) they send to my family doctor the file directly to put in my database). Before you have your citizen card (our citizen card have our ID number, our NIF number our SNS number) you need to know this number put in a memo in your phone or memorize him.

@opphisse 2 жыл бұрын

@@arturjcrebelo3275 Thanks very much.

@prettycool4775 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video! I'm just a little confused: even if you do get a private health insurance for your family, it still makes sense to apply to these guys, does it? They will help you to navigate through the medical system of Pt at least when you just moved? Just want to be sure I got everything right))

@rosemarybaker8126 2 жыл бұрын

It made sense for us not knowing Portuguese (yet) and not being familiar with Portuguese culture and practices when it comes to healthcare. We likely could have just used our private insurance to help navigate but Serenity made it super easy. It gave us a lot of peace of mind. Not everyone will need, or even want, these services. This was just our experience. Hope that helps.

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

@@rosemarybaker8126 thank you ❤

@prettycool4775 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You made it more clear to me. We are going to consider getting it))

@gennadykravenkov1505 2 жыл бұрын

@@rosemarybaker8126 Who is your health care insurer at this moment? Do Serenity provide any kind of advises what company/plan to use for health insurance?

@rosemarybaker8126 2 жыл бұрын

@@gennadykravenkov1505 we didn’t ask them about insurance because we already had health insurance with Medis which we got when we opened our bank account before we moved.

@twosaintsful 2 жыл бұрын

Does Serenity only for PT residents? What if you are in PT short-term?

@vthetravellingwriter Жыл бұрын

What price range were the private health insurance that serenity were able to find for her?

@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын

We have no idea. Sorry. - Josh & Kalie

@austintao6194 2 жыл бұрын

Good info. Was Serenity a sponsor of this presentation?

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yes, it's pretty crazy how it all came together. Serenity contacted us about their services and doing a content piece on them and we said that we didn't know enough about them and we'd have to speak to people that have actually used them. Literally, that day, we got into a conversation with Stu and Rosemary (they're friends of ours) and Rosemary was telling us how she found her doctor. She said she found them through Serenity and we were like, "wait....what?" After hearing her story, we asked if she wouldn't mind telling it for a video. She said yes and then we said yes to Serenity for the sponsorship. Since then we've we have spoken to and know others that have used their service. - Josh & Kalie

@austintao6194 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere That’s great that happened. I am just suggesting that if you are not being paid by Serenity then you should mention that so the viewers don’t think it’s an informercial of Serenity. It’s always good to be transparent and be upfront about it. Thx.

@paigeturner8784 2 жыл бұрын

Where is this lovely park where you are doing the interview?

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

😊 This is a rather small area near Trindade along Rua do Bonjardim. - Josh & Kalie

@paigeturner8784 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Thanks. We are looking at areas around Cedofeita and Guimares stations so this is helpful to see what little corners of an otherwise busy neighborhood looks like.

@paulorocha4194 2 жыл бұрын

Largo Dr. Tito Fontes, in Porto.

@dugfriendly 2 жыл бұрын

Serenity sounds similar to 2nd.MD that is part of the health insurance package I get thru my employer in the US

@Mr.S65 2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised to hear that the US ranks so low in health care having so many people from other counties coming to receive medical service here.

@rosemarybaker8126 2 жыл бұрын

It surprised us too.

@Pluminha 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what parameters are being used when ranking. The U.S. is in the top tier with innovation. For a price, you can access care without a long waiting list. I'm not defending U S. healthcare per se, just saying that you have to actually read the study and see what parameters were involved. The happiest countries in the world aren't that happy (speaking first hand). What they are is unencumbered by healthcare costs, parental leave, birth and death benefits, schooling. So the parameter is "unburdened" and then they are pronounced "happiest". If the U.S. could combine universal access, government funding, with cutting edge innovation, it could rank top tier again. I see no hope of that happening. The word socialism is a dirty word in American politics. I'm looking forward to Portugal.

@jetfowl 2 жыл бұрын

People come to the US for extremely specialized care (such as for 'cutting edge' treatment), not general care. In fact, medical tourism by Americans to other countries is quite common, in which Americans will fly to places like Panama, Costa Rica, etc. and purchase dental or medical care out-of-pocket... and even with the cost of the hotel and plane, it's still 1/10th the cost of the same procedure in the US.

@Mr.S65 2 жыл бұрын

@@jetfowl it’s expensive indeed but that doesn’t mean isn’t good. These are two different issues.

@Mr.S65 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pluminha Agreed. A change is needed and we have a retrograde mentality concerning the collective wellbeing of everyone. Some people don’t get that they, themselves would benefit from universal health care and oppose it vehemently (let alone the other things you mention) . However, with a D7 it is required to buy private health care insurance and a good plan is very costly as well. Until a person doesn’t qualify to become a permanent resident or citizen of Portugal, the burden is huge for 5 years. It’s a common thing for older Americans to return to the US to receive health care services as they become elegible to receive Madicare at age 65. They can’t handle the cost of private health insurance abroad.

@dianebassett1930 2 жыл бұрын

In the USA (as of 2013) we have electronic medical records (aka “EMR” or “EHR”) that are accessible from one medical organization to another. This provides important patient safety benefits as well as efficiencies. Can you find out what the situation is there in Portugal? Do they have a EHR of some sort? Is it a national software system? Do they have access to EHRs in the US for their American patients? (I know this sounds like privacy violation but there are ways this is set up to protect privacy and patient consent).

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Diane, unfortunately in Portugal there isn't EMR (yet). Patients have to always ask for their medical records (each and every time they visit a doctor or perform an exam) and show it in the next visit to a doctor. :(

@Pluminha 2 жыл бұрын

@Serenity, the Portuguese way is so much better!!! I've had medical diagnoses creep into my chart that I have never actually had, because medical records are trying to be one size fits all. If I take an anti-anxiety pill one night before surgery, and I report that on the day of my surgery, suddenly it shows up in my medical record that I'm taking that particular medication on an ongoing basis and that I have anxiety. This is just one example! I always have to go back and clean up my chart either with the medical record officer at the hospital or with the physician on my next visit. I have so many diagnoses now that are incorrect, it's absolutely absurd. It's a theoretically good system that has gone haywire. If people don't go back and check their electronic medical record, they don't know that these new and incorrect diagnoses have creeped in to their record. And I agree with you, being fluent in Portuguese does not mean that your services are not valuable to a newcomer. I was merely responding to the person who responded to me, telling me to learn Portuguese.

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pluminha thanks for sharing! Well, "old fashion way" has good side as well. Good to read :)

@fatarita 2 жыл бұрын

However, as a Portuguese, I was forced to have to go to private consultations and to go to private hospitals because at the moment I can't have an appointment with my doctor. Although their are inexpensive for expats with medical ensurance, for me (as a public teacher working since 2002 but earning still 1200 euros) it’s more expensive ). I was also being followed in a state hospital for a chronic condition and since 2020 I have not been any consultation because there are not enough doctors. My next consultation at a private hospital could only be scheduled in 4 months. A lot of doctors and nurses don't seem to be very satisfied with their conditions while working either. Yes it is possible that the situation is much better compared to other countries but it is definitely not the best.

@SilVia-hs2kb 2 жыл бұрын

As long as people see Portugal as a cheap country to retire in you will continue to have issues .Unfortunately the Portuguese will suffer because people coming to live there have higher disposable incomes and will have priority to services, because money talks. I personality think the Portuguese government makes it too easy for foreigners to go and retire there. Maybe being friendly and welcoming to foreigners is back firing on the native population. Your government is selling you to the highest foreign bidder.

@seds94 2 жыл бұрын

@@SilVia-hs2kb 100% spot on. It has its pros and cons

@amc6508 Жыл бұрын

@@SilVia-hs2kb there is growing resentment against these practices. As a native, and while I sympathize, it is shameful what is going on. People that never contributed during their lives, are expecting to just move here and use an already flooded public health care system. Its disgusting.

@sinem90473 Жыл бұрын

I got a travel health insurance, but I never used it before,I want to learn what I need to say when I go to hospital

@user-tm2ne5jy9i 16 күн бұрын

Portuguese health services outside of the large cities like Lisbon and Porto are at times 3rd world with ERs not working and hospitals littered with patients in corridors for days on end. If you are an expat be prepared to pay for private healthcare and be aware that the latter offer no more than the superficial convenient care clinics in the states, if one’s health situation requires more expertise they will simply direct you to public hospital.

@norm4332 2 жыл бұрын

Need some Tax advice for Portugal US Expat retirees. Apparently starting 2022 Social Security and Pensions will be taxed at 10%. My question is would this be a tax credit on the US tax obligation ? All I can seem to find is information concerning income tax credit for monies made while working in Portugal.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, Norm. I believe that we've received an email from you. - Josh & Kalie

@vodcome 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Norm.....I am literally 13 days in on Portugal. If your income is from retirement in the US, You will not be taxed twice on that income. The best advice is to consult with the expat tax preparers to see which country would benifit your tax filing. My personal situation is that I only recieve SSI, so I'll file in the US, and owe nothing here, as I wont work here.

@blaxbently Жыл бұрын

Anyone found a service like serenity for Spain?

@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын

We'll look into it. - Josh & Kalie

@rafae5902 11 ай бұрын

It would be useful if you put in the video title that this is an AD for Serenity!

@ExpatsEverywhere 11 ай бұрын

It’s not an ad for Serenity. We had been wanting to do a piece on healthcare in Portugal and how someone prepared for their move. Rosemary had an experience with Serenity that was helpful and she wanted to give a testimonial and we had Michael come on and explain their services. If you didn’t glean anything from Rosemary’s story, we’re sorry. If you don’t want to use Serenity or like their services, that’s okay too. - Josh

@michelehernandez5992 2 жыл бұрын

Do either of you have specific medical issues? Sorry I know this might be personal but being elder with health issues I wonder if medical coverage is harder to get if you have underlying medical issues. Beside the fee for the service what is the cost to actually see the medical personal (doctors per say)

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

We don't have any chronic medical issues, no. The Serenity service fee is different that what you'd pay to see a doctor or get meds. That will be taken into consideration in conjunction with either SNS or your private health insurance provider. - Josh & Kalie

@utopiaboardsandwheels9755 2 жыл бұрын

This is a piece of advertising. First: don't be racist. You're an emigrant. Not an "expat". Second: you can have your eyes checked and have your perscription for free in Portugal. Just have to stop using these "services" and use the healthcare system.

@themaestroslady1812 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard you don't qualify for the public healthcare service if you're over 55. What happens then? Especially if you have pre-existing conditions?

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

We've not heard that, Kim. Our best advice would be to contact Serenity or a company like them and ask them. For €10, it seems like you can ask them whatever you would like. - Josh & Kalie

@themaestroslady1812 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you, that's a relief to hear. I will contact Serenity.

@wendiezzes2281 4 ай бұрын

does your discount code work in 2024?

@ExpatsEverywhere 4 ай бұрын

Serenity has changed their pricing a bit so probably not. Reach out directly to them and ask if an ExpatsEverywhere code still works and they might hook you up. :-) - Josh & Kalie

@victorjoaquim2813 2 жыл бұрын

In Portugal you don't need private health care

@theadventurekidz-scienceho843 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone live there and see multiple doctors? Immunologist, Rhematologist and Neurologist?

@jetfowl 2 жыл бұрын

Does the 10 euro cost of the service include the cost of the doctor's visit, blood tests, medications, etc? Or does the 10 euros just cover their aid in connecting you with an English speaking doctor?

@Pluminha 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just hearing about it but......it seems they help you *navigate* the healthcare system. They are *not* an insurer nor are they providers. Think of them as tour guides, concierges, hand holders.

@Mr.S65 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pluminha I’d suggest to learn Portuguese to navigate everything in Portugal. It’ll make your life easier

@Pluminha 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.S65 maybe post this to the group in general, not as a reply to me specifically? I'm fluent in Portuguese.

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

The price does not include doctor's visit, blood tests, medication etc. However we can provide some of those services ourselves (priced accordingly), home care based treatments, follow up, online consultations, prescription of exams, etc. \ If a client needs a specific speciality and or a doctor, then we will provide this assistance as many others. Even if you are portuguese and speaking fluent portuguese, does not mean you wouldn't need our services. Sometimes you have an insurance but you simply don't know where to go, who is the best doctor, or the fastest to provide results, or you need just a second opinion...

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

It covers their services to answer medical questions as well as connecting you with a network of doctors. If you have medications from abroad that you're not sure are available in Portugal and at what cost, they can help with that too. - Josh & Kalie

@anadossantos1429 2 жыл бұрын

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@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

😊 Thanks for watching, Ana. - Josh & Kalie

@Kovi73 Жыл бұрын

€16 fee also if you don't see a doctor. You already pay for waiting in the waiting room in passing, and you can spend up to 10 hours in the waiting room while it's your turn. I mention the urgency. It is a shame

@roybjork1034 2 жыл бұрын

health care is not something you think of as Scandinavian! everything is there, just get in touch when you need it. the cost is about $ 20 at a time. the children have free medical care dental care. maximum rate is $ 120 per year for healthcare

@brianwhite1189 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the information and I will be contacting Serenity with regards to being 66 years old and having several pre-existing conditions, will private health insurance even be unavailable to me or will I qualify for a policy, but have a prohibitively high annual premium? I've been following Josh and Kalie's wonderful DIY D7 Visa Course, I have my NIF and Millennium bank account, and my Millennium bank client rep sent me information assuring me that a Medis policy accepts pre-existing conditions, but I really need to know for certain. Medicare in the US, with an Advantage plan is very affordable, and I need assurance that I will not be relocating to Portugal only to find I either can't get private health insurance or that it's a lot more expensive than what I'm paying now. Thanks, guys.

@paulabuls5802 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Brian, keep us posted. We’re about seven months out from our arrival in Porto. I’m interested in some of the same questions. I’m about to turn 63 (on Tuesday).

@brianwhite1189 2 жыл бұрын

@@paulabuls5802 Hi Paula, Will do. If I don't get a definitive answer, I may just travel to Lisbon in a few months in order to decide if it's still where I want to be, secure a long-term apartment lease and gather more healthcare cost information. There's always the Public Healthcare option, but I haven't come across an expat channel where they're only using the public system and not using private healthcare insurance.

@jetfowl 2 жыл бұрын

I've recently moved to Braga from the US... and have a Medis policy from Millennium. From what I can gather, private insurance here in Portugal is more like a supplement to the public option. In that you will have a family doctor (a primary care physician) assigned to you from the public health service. And they look over your medical records and do whatever they can to keep you healthy. Where the private insurance comes in is if the family doctor says you need some sort of test (bloodwork, biopsy, etc) or some sort of procedure/operation. That private insurance allows you to schedule whatever tests/procedures you need through the private network, with almost no waiting and with nicer facilities. --- Please understand, though... I'm still trying to figure it out. But that's the explanation I received from the doctor I went to (in order to refill some prescriptions I have). I'd gone to a private doctor via Medis during the window between my arrival and the time had my SEF appointment to obtain my residency card. During that time, you can't enroll onto the public health care option, as that's reserved for citizens and residents only. Also, I paid out-of-pocket for the prescriptions, as the Medis policies don't cover medications (I think that's covered by the public health system). But the prescriptions were 1/20th the cost of what it would be in the US. Just as an example, the two cholesterol/triglyceride-reducing medications that I take cost (in the US, out-of-pocket, 1-month supply) roughly $500. The same prescriptions, here in Portugal and out-of-pocket... $30 euros.

@brianwhite1189 2 жыл бұрын

@@jetfowl Thank you for such valuable information. Much appreciated!

@serenity4558 2 жыл бұрын

@@jetfowl in theory you are totally correct. Reality is a bit different... about 1 million portuguese lack a GP/Family doctor. The national health system is overwhelmed and lack physicians to cover everyone. Emergency rooms are at full capacity with non urgent cases just because people can't get to a doctor for simple acts, like medical prescriptions, routine exams, revise of medication, etc. Having an appropriate health insurance can really save you in case of need. Although the system is free and for everyone, became difficult to access in the most appropriate way.

@mongofan1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Kalie and Michael. I'm exploring PT as a retirement home and have two young adult children who I hope can join me. Both have Type 1 Diabetes and so need an affordable AND absolutely dependable supply of insulin, pump or injections, and, hopefully, continuous glucose monitoring system of one form or another. With T1, there is no room for delays in obtaining insulin and the tools necessary for proper use of insulin and carb intake. I see that someone from Serenity is responding to questions, here. Can I contact someone by email with just a short list of questions about basic access to insulin and CGM in PT? Thanks! Alex

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

Alex, you could sign up for Serenity for €10/month and get your questions answered by them. You can cancel at any time. Does that help? - Josh & Kalie

@carendancer8265 2 жыл бұрын

Please address the "vaccine" issue and whether you feel you have a choice in Portugal.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

What vaccine issue exactly? Things are changing so rapidly, we're not sure a video on the topic would hold much validity. - Josh & Kalie

@antoniocarvalho6160 2 жыл бұрын

MEDICINE STUDENTS MUST HAVE GREAT GRADES, VERY CLOSE TO 20 WITH 15 ONLY ENTER FOR SMALL COURSES!

@antoniodasilva1230 2 жыл бұрын

Well people that pay for in taxes are why we have a good health service you jump in whithout doing anything but using our system need to just be thankfull 💩 in the Hamtons in Southampton i was slapped with a stupid bill for thousands and had nothing done

@0xbsnmor268 2 жыл бұрын

Although I appreciate the clear statement that the video ‘included paid promotion’, I find a bit sad to focus the whole video around Serenity without any other view/tips. I understand the youtube game and do not mind the strong ad push, but I’d strongly recommend adding real content on top next time! And no, interviewing the Serenity’s CEO doesn’t qualify as insight 😂!

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

This was real content. It was Rosemary's real story with Serenity. We just happened to get paid from them to tell her story. 100% genuine. Rosemary gives "advice" throughout, for example, try to get medical records before you leave the US so that you can hand those off to the medical professionals in Portugal that you're going to work with. - Josh & Kalie

@0xbsnmor268 2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpatsEverywhere i appreciate the reply. I do feel that your heart and intentions were in the right place; however it still came across as full moneytisation of your audience and although it migh be necessary, it is never a good feeling to be ‘used’ in such way. Anyway, happy with a give-n-take approach, so I’ll still stick with you as long as there is a good balance of what I get (genuine view of the word) and what I give (time to announcer).

@Kovi73 Жыл бұрын

The waiting time for treatment is the worst in Portugal. This doesn't even exist in less developed countries! In no other country in Europe. Health care works better in many Asian and African countries as well

@ExpatsEverywhere Жыл бұрын

Hey Adam & Nisha, are you talking about urgent/emergency treatment or non-urgent/non-essential treatments? You've made a bold statement considering where Portugal ranks globally when it comes to health care. We're buy no means trying to sell Portugal to anyone but would love to hear more about where your statements are coming from. - Josh & Kalie

@amc6508 Жыл бұрын

You have no idea what your talking about! If your condition in not life threatening, you will wait of course!

@abiliofreire8559 2 жыл бұрын

I like This capitalist exploring services in Portugal. Pls americans do not use our free health care here because i pay for that even if its free, socialist country. Vote for berny sanders and go back!

@user-oo9rt3or2o 7 ай бұрын

They will not pay for pre existing conditions . What a scam . I just read the all insurance cover it’s not what you are saying . Shame on you . Are you getting paid for the comercial. I’ll in Lisbon in 3 weeks and I would love to meet with you and really understand what is it that I’m missing.

@edgaralgarve 2 жыл бұрын

Just be a little less picky about "a little accent" or "good english" when you made no effort to learn the language. Respeitinho é bonito.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

It's a simple question Edgar and one that many people around the world would ask. She claimed that the little accent wasn't a problem. Rosemary and Stu are actively learning Portuguese. - Josh & Kalie

@SilVia-hs2kb 2 жыл бұрын

Most people coming from the USA and England will put very little effort into learning Portuguese. They see their money being spent there as saving and adding to the economy instead of what's really happening ,they are crippling the natives from home ownership. Tourism doesn't create great jobs. Who's getting rich in Portugal from housekeeping in a hotel or waiter in a restaurant? Unfortunately the Portuguese Government is too incompetent to aid and create a harbor for national entrepreneurship ,instead they are selling out the country to the highest foreign bidders. These people retiring in Portugal need YOU more than you need them. They are going there because it's cheaper than where they live and financially advantageous to them. However , in the end they are not your real enemy. Your government is.

@ExpatsEverywhere 2 жыл бұрын

@@SilVia-hs2kb Hi. Thank you for your message. We do have a few counterpoints though. 1 is that a really high percentage of our American audience that we interact with is extremely interested in learning Portuguese and know it's important for them as they move here. As far as Brits go, we have little comment because not many of our audience members that we interact with British, however, Talk the Streets, Liz is a British KZfaq (EU) PT Teacher and we're betting she attracts that British audience so she might know better. 2, James from Moviinn in Lisbon, Portugal, has some great insight on to what the government and private money has/have done for the entrepreneurial space both domestically and internationally. It seems like there is a conscious effort to create well paid jobs through tech, blue tech, and small business entrepreneurship among other things. 3, Portugal has middle of the road property ownership level in Europe at around 73%, however, some of countries that are higher are considered frontier countries so digest that how you will. One point of frustration that we're bet you can be on board with is the 28% tax for home owners that rent their properties out on the long term market (income) compared to the much lower AL tax. Anyway, foreigners aren't your enemies for sure although some of them aren't nice (but you'll get that anywhere). We hope you have a good day. - Josh & Kalie

@luisc240 2 жыл бұрын

Hospitals in portugal are horrible

@amc6508 Жыл бұрын

This is disgraceful! Thousands of portuguese contribute their whole life to the national health care system and you people come here without ever contributing and use it! Shameful! You should all contribute before using the public health care system.