Amiga TNG Documentary - Morphos History and Development

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'Due to their size and striking beauty, blue morpho butterflies are one of the most emblematic and favorite of all Amazon species'
In this video I set the picture for the times surrounding the birth of the operating system MorphOS. www.morphos-team.net/
This is the first of a series I intend on doing covering what happened to Amiga after Commodore. This is all for education and entertainment :)
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@andersnilsson7917
@andersnilsson7917 4 жыл бұрын
Any sane person who has used the Amiga and then has had to use lesser computers will never again be quite satisfied. Performance is only part of it, the major factor is the smoothness of the Amiga experience.
@DREAMTEAMTONICJAMES
@DREAMTEAMTONICJAMES 5 жыл бұрын
You know a true Amiga fan when they are still annoyed, disappointed and a little angry to this day that the Amiga and its amazing OS never reached the potential that many of us knew it could reach. An inspiring video Ravi. More please 👍😁
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh its still a huge mixed bag of feelings
@leftyhara3876
@leftyhara3876 4 жыл бұрын
I get mad every time I have to install windows.
@MechanicaMenace
@MechanicaMenace 4 жыл бұрын
Loved my Amigas but another one I get angry about was Acorn. While a cooperative multitasking system RISC OS was also amazingly ahead of its time in a lot of ways. Also damn, the hardware was screaming fast. Put contemporary PCs to shame
@Lucretia9000
@Lucretia9000 4 жыл бұрын
@@leftyhara3876 Install Linux and then AROS in a VM.
@Reactivate100
@Reactivate100 4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert it’s 2019 and we have Windows 10. Even Windows XP was much better than this. Ppl just can’t let things lay to rest I guess. Total waste of time in my opinion.
@jimmycrapcorn
@jimmycrapcorn 4 жыл бұрын
My first PC was an A500. No HDD. Ran everything from floppy and I believe it had 1MB RAM. The guy who sold it to me taught me how to dial BBSs and gave me about 500 floppies worth of warez. What a magical time.
@thesillyhatday
@thesillyhatday 4 жыл бұрын
Mine too. I was very young. I think it was an A500, but my memory is sketchy that far back. It wasn't new, my dad got it in a trade for something. It just booted floppy's. I mostly remember Bomber Man, Lemmings and Cool Coyote: Fire and Ice! Next PC was a PIII 800Mhz and Windows 98. What a buggy mess 98 was, wished I had experienced the Amiga OS. Still fond of Win 98 though
@Petsublak
@Petsublak 4 жыл бұрын
Warez - happy days, I started on a A500 as well. I remember my first modem was 2400bps and really remember the first time I connected to a bbs.
@Kenny-bw2cz
@Kenny-bw2cz 4 жыл бұрын
You were in the future using a monster of a computer. My first "PC" had 48 kb ram, no floppy and you had to use a audio cassette tape to save and load programs. Yes it was the zx spectrum. :)
@timetorelaxfocus9642
@timetorelaxfocus9642 4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful OS. I just loved having such a great environment on Amiga. If we can bring that into the future would be wonderful.
@radofficial4672
@radofficial4672 4 жыл бұрын
The Amiga was the "rebel" of the graphics and gaming era.. there's a romantic notion there and for many people it's an epic reminder that we were there when it all began. I used to be a Commodore dealer, sold hundreds of em.. that's my legacy and I'm proud of it !! :)
@Brukner841
@Brukner841 4 жыл бұрын
I can't think of any unboxing more exciting than with an Amiga!
@honkybear666
@honkybear666 4 жыл бұрын
Great video on the Morphos OS looking forward to seeing more. Thanks Ravi.
@krisreddish3066
@krisreddish3066 4 жыл бұрын
Still kinda sad how it all turned out. I saved up for over a year as I wanted a Amiga 1000 as a child, but I did end up getting an Amiga 500 as a massive upgrade over my C64. But then decades later in the Army I did some time in a sim centor and they had issues with the computer running it all. Well low and behold running 7 terminals, and a main map screen in high rez is a single A1000. MY practice with the Amiga saved the day. My PC at the time was a Pentium 90 and was great for games but as a terminal server it was lacking and even the 2d card of the day or early 3d accelerators were incapable of multi display and terminal users. It really was a multi tasking master.
@vix_in_japan
@vix_in_japan 5 жыл бұрын
This is a period of time where I know very little what happened to the Amiga, from around 1997 until my Amiga 1200 died in 2000 I was almost exclusively using it as a Macintosh via emulation (my 040 card made it into a very capable Quadra speed Macintosh, still useful back then for using MS Office 4, PageMaker and Photoshop), and then between 2000 and 2018 I didn't have anything to do with the Amiga scene. Interesting to see what happened!
@fabiStgt
@fabiStgt 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that era has gotten a lot less coverage than the commodore years.
@danwood_uk
@danwood_uk 5 жыл бұрын
Great overview mate, inspiring me to spend a bit more time with MorphOS again.
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro
@boydpukalo8980
@boydpukalo8980 9 ай бұрын
Really cool video. The Red versus Blue wars were/are really sad. I just got into Amiga about 3 years ago, and luckily missed all the warring factions. I bought an X5000 motherboard and 4.1, after becoming bored w/x86 and re-discovered Amiga. Then I stumbled upon MorphOS. Both are really cool. I have an X1950XTX for MorphOS and an RX590 for 4.1 on the x5000. Viva Amiga. Oh I also bought a Vampire V4, and fell in love w/the big box classics and built a 4000, AA3000+, and 4000TX! Amazing what is avaliable today with this resurgence of the scene.
@kendawg_mcawesome
@kendawg_mcawesome 5 жыл бұрын
Got MorphOS running on on a G5 sitting under my desk. Really impressed with how zippy it is. Just kinda a shame though. I boot it up, play around a bit, and then it's kinda like "OK, well, time to go back to something I can get real work done on", then I boot up this Arch box I'm commenting off.
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
There are growing basic spreadsheet, word processor, mailer and PDF viewer for MorphOS. Dont dicth it so fast :) Odyssey also gets updated and is best browser in Amiga world. So enjoy MOS more
@pikewerfer
@pikewerfer Ай бұрын
@@RasVoja The ONE thing you need to do REAL work nowadays, to really turn an OS into a daily driver, is a FAST and up-to-date browser. And yes, MorphOS has Odyssey and even Wayfarer - but the hardware underneath is just too slow. I work 99% of my time online. I need Jira, I need SalesForce, I need Google Docs, I need KZfaq (for fun), I need OneDrive, I need Sharepoint, I need Confluence - and a few other things I forgot right now. All this is no problem on my Mac mini running Sonoma, it is no problem using my Dell Mini with Windows 11. I use Chrome on Mac, and Firefox on Windows. No problem at all - all windows are open, all tabs responding fast and immediately. I could not even dream of opening this on Wayfarer on MorphOS. I hope that Aros can get there - if it offers a fast and good browser, I will try.
@jakfearon2945
@jakfearon2945 4 жыл бұрын
Doing 3D graphics and music on my Amiga 500 was what got me my first job as a video game developer back in 1994. I love Amiga and have a kitted-out 500 on a table right next to my main workstation (still a game developer!) It makes me happy just to look at it (and use it when I can). There's never been anything else quite like it.
@Brukner841
@Brukner841 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, what color is your case?
@jakfearon2945
@jakfearon2945 4 жыл бұрын
@@Brukner841 the color is "Old Amiga" haha. I'm running an ACA-500plus and Gotek with it, hooked up to a Sony PVM-20L2. Do you have one? What's yours like?
@Brukner841
@Brukner841 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakfearon2945 I have an A2000 with some mainboard problems with a cyberstorm card. Still goin strong!
@jakfearon2945
@jakfearon2945 4 жыл бұрын
@@Brukner841 awesome! Those are wicked. I used a friend's 2000HD waaay back in the day working on demos. Super cool. :)
@PhilipoT87
@PhilipoT87 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ravi for this video.
@timetorelaxfocus9642
@timetorelaxfocus9642 4 жыл бұрын
MorphOS looks amazing!
@Petsublak
@Petsublak 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! I truly love the Amiga, I had the A500, 1500, 1200, 4000/040. Been praying for years, for the Amiga to resurface.
@Acill
@Acill 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Ravi. I want more people to use MorphOS myself. Its much more mature than OS4 is and a lot more stable. I have an X5000 and run it on that as well as my G5 Powermac. The nice thing about the X5000 is you can ge the latests of OS4 and MorphOS side by side on the same hardware and see first hand just how great it is.
@DaveRepairs
@DaveRepairs 5 жыл бұрын
wow nice one DJ... you taught me stuff I didn't know ... see you soon at SWAG
@surject
@surject 4 жыл бұрын
When Future Crew released their 2nd Reality demo on PC the scene knew the days of the Amiga were counted...
@turbolenza35
@turbolenza35 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, and I got a pc the moment I realized there will be no Amiga Doom in 1993...
@net_news
@net_news 4 жыл бұрын
great video man!!
@FrancoAversa
@FrancoAversa 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Amiga 1200 above the wardrobe. How many graphic animations I built thanks to this computer. (Good times).
@davidewhite69
@davidewhite69 3 жыл бұрын
you are correct about Workbench being a brilliant OS for the time. I remember just before Win95 was due to be released a friend was an official beta tester and he showed me everything Win95 could do compared to Win3.1, such as long file names, multitasking, etc, he was flabergasted when I told him the Amiga had all that for the last eight years
@Djformula
@Djformula 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh totally, workbench was so much fun and i miss it
@10MARC
@10MARC 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Ravi. It convinced me to bring out my old PPC Mac and try it out. I was watching the Twitter client on your video and saw my logo and a few tweets of mine! How funny!
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
Haha great you are dusting off the old machine, let me know how it goes.
@golubovicm
@golubovicm 5 жыл бұрын
I used A500, A1200, turbo cards, 68030, 68040, 68060 and also PPC + 68060....and finally I got Pegasus board with Morphos (was porting some DTP app to Amiga). And feelings were mixed. On one hand everything was working really fast. Moving windows, multitasking. HDD was working faster than SSD this days (or at least I had that impression). Desktop and icons looked stunning. But on other hand there was a lack of many important things. Drivers for many peripherals were missing. Before buying any peace of HW you had to check is it supported or not. And with every update I was hoping of some really needed new SW, drivers but I was getting instead new icon packs, new desktop images and similar. I loved Amiga very much, but IMHO it should be left to rest in peace. It can't compete with todays PCs and Macs. Playing just 720p videos and having browser with glitches when you scroll simple page is just...so outdated.
@beezle1976
@beezle1976 5 жыл бұрын
Harddrive access always seems fast when you're loading nearly nothing as is the case with Amiga-oid systems.. Modern SSD's are capable of about 2 gigabytes (yes gigabytes, not gigabits) or even higher. The pegasus ide controller struggles to do 30 Megabytes,.... it's about 1.5% as fast as something modern :-)
@amigalemming
@amigalemming 4 жыл бұрын
@@beezle1976 2 gigabyte? Not 2 terabyte?
@DrSpring
@DrSpring 5 жыл бұрын
More videos like this are needed. The post Commodore years for the Amiga community presents a complex and messy country. (To paraphrase Shakespeare ;) )
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate! Next up OS4
@antjarvis
@antjarvis 5 жыл бұрын
Back from the future!!! Oh boy :(
@CRG
@CRG 5 жыл бұрын
MorphOS is something I've been wanted to try out for a while and after watching your video I think I'll give it a closer look now. Is there any compatibility for older x86 hardware or is that AROS I'm thinking of?
@ciaranleoghann5879
@ciaranleoghann5879 4 жыл бұрын
MorphOS runs on PowerPC macs, and a few other PowerPC machines (Pegasos, X5000 etc), it won't run on a PC. For a PC you've got Aros but it's not really usable, way less advanced than MorphOS.
@stevenwaite1063
@stevenwaite1063 4 жыл бұрын
My Amiga 500 was a truly wonderful machine. I also had a A1200. Sadly both sold and long gone. Still look back on all those great games.
@Q5Grafx
@Q5Grafx 4 жыл бұрын
I loved commodore and Amiga. I contributed models i made during the transition of Star Trek from plastic to 3d models in the April 1998 Amiga Format magazine. At that time the amiga was competing against Pentium 2 machines with Opengl cards for rendering and it could still compete. We used Amigas when the competition was using DEC Alpha's.
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 4 жыл бұрын
Pentium 2 processers annihilated anything in the 68k series, including the 68060. How on earth did the PC end up slower ?
@shaneobrien5214
@shaneobrien5214 4 жыл бұрын
Still breaks my heart 😢
@maartenc6099
@maartenc6099 5 жыл бұрын
I still have my powermac G5 and I know it is compatible with morphos. I have been thinking about buying morphos. But really have no idea about using UAE. Maybe you could do a video about it.
@joelcarson4602
@joelcarson4602 4 жыл бұрын
Bought an Original Amiga 1000 not long after they went on sale, and traded it in for an Amiga 2000 not long after they became available. Had the 2 meg memory expansion card, upgraded to a Fat Agnus, and had a QVS (?) hSCSI controller and a 500 megabyte hard drive. Great stuff. But here's the sad truth. "It's dead Jim."
@josedourado3747
@josedourado3747 4 жыл бұрын
😣
@-Steven-
@-Steven- 4 жыл бұрын
Hey what's the app your using to show how full your drive is that appears on the left hand side of the windows I have been looking on aminet but can't find it.
@OnyxSoft
@OnyxSoft 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ravi for this video. My main system is still MorphOS since back from the initial release.
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff
@cmarkme
@cmarkme 4 жыл бұрын
The Brand name Amiga, for me still has a Magical Element.. Stick an Amiga sticker on a Bunch of Desktops, and watch them Sell-Boi....
@AussieAmigan
@AussieAmigan 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanted a re-emergence of software for the Amiga they'd do well to port Electron, despite it going against the liteweight resource philosophy of the OS. OWB could easily be used as the basis of an Electron-like container, but the developer (it seemed to me at least) pretended not to know what I was talking about.
@ClayMann
@ClayMann 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still running Directory Opus on the PC. It's absolutely the best file manager for Windows. Super powerful and massively configurable. To think its been iterating none stop since the Amiga days. Its no wonder its so slick under Windows. The sad thing is despite how great it is. You will almost never see it featured on websites or in videos covering software. Its almost like a hidden secret that mostly only the Amiga users from way back know about it because they used it back then as THE Amiga file manager of choice.
@ShinVejita
@ShinVejita 4 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about Amiga back in the day is that it did things that no other computer could do, it took competitors a decade or longer to really catch up. Now Amiga is just nostalgia, unless someone is going to innovate some beyond nextgen computer and gaming scifi level type of system and name it Amiga there is really no future for Amiga. Preemptive multitasking was impressive in 1984, nowadays its nothing special every OS has it.
@RamonddeVrede
@RamonddeVrede 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ravi
@Harp00nX
@Harp00nX 5 жыл бұрын
"tits up" is such a technical phrase, it can be applied to many situations :)
@auntiepha8343
@auntiepha8343 4 жыл бұрын
Amiga Workbench , the Original Windows.
@bronwaith
@bronwaith Жыл бұрын
21:02 Have you ever done a video on wayfarer and how it renders on morphOS?
@davedm6345
@davedm6345 4 жыл бұрын
nice video, would like to see a benchmark running on it :)
@teekay_1
@teekay_1 4 жыл бұрын
I was a very avid Amiga user, but in hindsight the issue was that the Amiga was designed as a game console, so there was no easy way to to modernize the architecture of the machine without a huge rewrite of AmigaOS, likely obsoleting every existing piece of software. Since Commodore was on the verge of insolvency almost continuously, they couldn't afford anything but a repackaging of the existing hardware and some minor graphics tweaks that made their way into the A4000. Those were good times though.
@yetersizbakiye8164
@yetersizbakiye8164 4 жыл бұрын
very nice..thanks
@RetroAges
@RetroAges 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if this is compatible with a G5 iMac? I’ve only seen compatibility mentioned for G4 machines and the G5 Power Mac, never the G5 iMac.
@yellowbench1158
@yellowbench1158 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why not. Same thing.
@matthews4159
@matthews4159 4 жыл бұрын
once upon a time in a galaxy far far away a PhD exercise in writing and operating system resulted in TRIPOS written in BCPL. since BCPL is a portable programming language it was implemented on many machines. one of those machines was the Commodore Amiga.
@garyhart6421
@garyhart6421 4 жыл бұрын
Did you say run it for 20 mins without time-out ??? I thought it slows down after two-hours ?
@pkf4124
@pkf4124 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if MorphOS supports the direct reading of Amiga formatted Harddrives, just interested as i have several that have info on etc and not enough real Amigas to run them all in
@OnyxSoft
@OnyxSoft 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, MorphOS supports Amiga-formated medium straight out of the box.
@slowlymakingsmoke
@slowlymakingsmoke 5 жыл бұрын
I have an old Mac G4 laptop from work that is made for this. Not sure I want to shell out the +-£70 for it though. Great vid Ravi.
@Cthulhu1970
@Cthulhu1970 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it's got one of the ATI graphics chips. The NVidia ones don't work at all under MorphOS.
@slowlymakingsmoke
@slowlymakingsmoke 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cthulhu1970 it must do, as I did install it to check it out way back
@Cthulhu1970
@Cthulhu1970 4 жыл бұрын
@@slowlymakingsmoke I think it's worth the £70. I'm glad I forked out for it. :)
@slowlymakingsmoke
@slowlymakingsmoke 4 жыл бұрын
Cthulhu1970 well Christmas is just around the corner...
@Acill
@Acill 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to come on with you some time and do a video about OS4 and MorphOS on negt gen Amiga hardware.
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
Sure we could collab via skype!
@ZXSpectrum128K
@ZXSpectrum128K 4 жыл бұрын
What r the specifications of the machine u r running morphos on please?
@ratspike8017
@ratspike8017 4 жыл бұрын
Another call for the spec of the machine, please!
@ssdravidian
@ssdravidian 4 жыл бұрын
can you go online on a MorphOs machine? and use youtube or other modern websites?
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
yep with owb
@Sinisteve
@Sinisteve 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a completely different Amiga user, I was all about the games and still have no idea how workbench really works🙈
@005AGIMA
@005AGIMA 4 жыл бұрын
Hands up, this was me too. Didn't get into understanding operating systems until I moved to PC because....well because you had to or you were screwed. I'd argue IF my Amiga had an HDD, perhaps I'd have spent more time in workbench.
@Revener666
@Revener666 4 жыл бұрын
I mostly played games too but windows still annoys me.
@sirdandandy1736
@sirdandandy1736 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@104d_3rr0r_vince
@104d_3rr0r_vince 4 жыл бұрын
I was the only kid at my school and from any other friend who didn't format the Workbench disk to copy a game... Yes, I played a lot but I've seen-used almost every Amiga program.
@JeremiahKF
@JeremiahKF 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me with the track at 7:30?
@stevesmith2042
@stevesmith2042 4 жыл бұрын
how I miss my amiga days. plug in and away you go.
@pqrstzxerty1296
@pqrstzxerty1296 4 жыл бұрын
I am waiting for a major firmware upgrade for the Sinclair ZX81.
@friedpicklezzz
@friedpicklezzz 4 жыл бұрын
How does it stack up against AROS?
@EverettVinzant
@EverettVinzant 4 жыл бұрын
They ought to do two things. One, create MorphOS for RISC-V architecture. Two, build a MorphOS VM for Qubes OS. I purchased a laptop from POP!OS, put QubeS OS on it, and run POP!OS, Windows, CentOS 8 and MacOS. I’m currently running Amiga Forever from Cloanto. I think this would run much faster as a VM Natively instead of interpreted. Just a thought (yeah, I know it’s not as easy as I make it sound).
@BrunoFonsecaPT
@BrunoFonsecaPT 4 жыл бұрын
If this is using UAE to run all the legacy stuff, then what’s the point? Wouldn’t it be better to run Windows for all the modern stuff and WinUAE for the legacy? If it is about the interface, then you can use Amikit...
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
I will cover winuae in the future
@JS-wl3gi
@JS-wl3gi 2 жыл бұрын
Amiga One and Morph really need to joy and go from there.
@ThatFellowOnline
@ThatFellowOnline 4 жыл бұрын
Nice use of 3D blue there
@benjahnz
@benjahnz 5 жыл бұрын
The Metro hour? It will never catch on... /s
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming 4 жыл бұрын
As of late I still support Amiga, but via legacy stuff. As in 02/03 accelerators. Why? For years this was a fantastic ride and I appreciate what it was back in the late 80s and early 90s.
@AlienRelics
@AlienRelics 4 жыл бұрын
The Blue Morpho! The deadliest butterfly of all...
@spudhead169
@spudhead169 4 жыл бұрын
Umm your time frame is a bit wrong. ESCOM's 1200 sales started quite a while before the 3DFX and Pentium CPUs were introduced.
@circle2620
@circle2620 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad I haven't seen any new support for MorphOS, because it's impressive. I believe Blender is made for Amiga OS, not sure this one?
@005AGIMA
@005AGIMA 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame so much seems to rely on third party apps and user configuration. If it could be used to do modern tasks AND legacy programs out of the box, it would be awesome. I think all these things are fun to play around with though. For me, I'd just be happy with a Workbench "theme" for windows 10, and Amiga Forever ;)
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised at the lack of Workbench-themed DE for Linux distros. Is the Amiga "community" really so averse to anything contemporary?
@saspi6440
@saspi6440 4 жыл бұрын
My first Amiga was an Amiga 600 with 40mb hard drive. It was expensive and only a few games could start. At that time I hated him and today, with ACA 630 A604 Flicker fixer. I love him.
@circle2620
@circle2620 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see Amiga to come back with new HW and SW in some way. This would be "back to the future".
@CelentAle
@CelentAle 5 жыл бұрын
I love my SAM440 and AmigaOS4 NG✌️
@charlesjmouse
@charlesjmouse 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, such a sad story. Thank you for this video. I remember well the OS4 vs MorphOS debacle. Of course I've never actually tried either because I never had the requisite hardware to run these OS's... ...one might say that with hindsight the whole PPC thing was a massive miss-step and was the final nail in AmigaOS's coffin as anything other than a retro hobby. My remaining interest is in classic systems only I'm sad to say. I'm happy for the people who get something out of the PPC-based OS's and wish every success to those still mad enough to develop and sell PPC hardware... Remember Amithlon? That was the real future of AmigaOS, no hind sight needed at all. I remember well being one of the people championing Amithlon as the future of the OS but sadly Amithlon got buried as a result of 'political pressure' and in the process the wonderful developer, Bernie Meyer, got thoroughly screwed. Why Amithlon? Well, the opportunity has long since passed but in Amithlon Amiga inc (remember that bunch of useless...) had a custom Linux kernel to act as hardware abstraction layer between OS 3.1 and cheap+powerful x86 hardware. You ended up with a dirt cheap and super-fast Draco that could run all 68k software courtesy of fast 68k emulation as well as AmigaOS software targeted to the built in, functionally identical, x86 API. The 'lack' of a classic chip set was not a problem as there was more than enough power to emulate the 'missing bits'. Indeed, such was the power of the system running on x86 hardware you also had full WarpOS support running faster with software rendering with an emulated 68k CPU than any 'native' hardware if you didn't have the luxury of a supported PCI GFX card to do hardware rendering. I think bench-marking my 2.2Ghz Athlon-based Amithlon machine gave me something like a 400MHz 68040 and software rendering QuakeGL 68k at about 120fps. The fact that the AmigaOS API also existed in native x86 under Amithlon meant drivers, OS components, and software could be migrated piecemeal giving users a painless migration path to modern hardware options while reducing development headaches for whatever cash-strapped company was nominally in charge. IMO this was the OS's last shot at being relevant outside retro hobby circles. Of course the idiots 'running' Amiga inc killed off Amithlon. Partly through incompetence, but largely as a result of pressure from Hyperion (among others) who could see their investment in OS4 being wasted - very short sighted! Yes, there's AROS which, like MorphOS, is excellent but development took too long for it to have any real impact even if that ship hadn't already sailed with the end of Amithlon. Hmm, I've actually not fired up any of my classic Amigas (or Amithlon) in a couple of years... I think I might go take a stroll down memory lane. I look forward to your next episode.
@TorstenSeemann
@TorstenSeemann 4 жыл бұрын
Bernie is an amazing engineer and the Amithlon fiasco really hurt him and the future of Amiga.
@andycraig7734
@andycraig7734 4 жыл бұрын
+Ravi Abbot This is fascinating and I hope I can find some videos about this. I smell a future video topic!
@amigaamigo5307
@amigaamigo5307 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@yellowbench1158
@yellowbench1158 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old G4 mini and was going to install Morph but after seeing this I think I’ll just look for an emulator. It’s just about the old games for me.
@Mike.Garcia
@Mike.Garcia 5 жыл бұрын
Neat
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 4 жыл бұрын
I really love AmigaOS for one reason: No god damn focus stealing.
@DutchmanDavid
@DutchmanDavid 4 жыл бұрын
@Seamus O'Dork You know how sometimes a windows program can pop up a new window and make take the "focus", meaning: if you're writing in Word or Chrome, your typing suddenly does nothing! So annoying!
@froop2393
@froop2393 4 жыл бұрын
so f... true. simply hate the poor usability of any acutal user interface...
@leebrewer1190
@leebrewer1190 4 жыл бұрын
Amiga - ACTUAL multitasking - still has yet to be duplicated. Modern machines still bog down. Its a shame when an antique computer system was better than modern platforms in so many ways.
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 4 жыл бұрын
That's not true at all. Modern OS's multitask better than Amiga OS, it wasn't made out of magic, people understood how it worked.
@mnieuwhof
@mnieuwhof 4 жыл бұрын
Thank god we have WinUAE...
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 4 жыл бұрын
the best (and cost effective) way to emulate 100% perfect Amiga OS (and hardware for any model) is Amibien on a Raspberry Pi 3; and Im no expert/fanboy of Commodore, but his guy is and here he does an extensive test and comparison to prove it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bK6Ki7BnyLK6hZs.html
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
Yup I will do a video on WinUae in the future
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and No. It helps but is not the answer. Thanks UAE for making AmiKit XE possible :)
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 4 жыл бұрын
16:53 popular filler tune used frequently in the retrohour :)
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
haha well spotted!
@Jamesalec63
@Jamesalec63 4 жыл бұрын
Commodes were brilliant I used one in the early 80s and it was a treat to play games and other fun stuff it did have some good games and there were some interesting software that you had load from two or three disks no Internet connection at that time so no downloads but one art software I thought was interesting was slow to load but was good enough for drawing, I can see it working but remember it but its name I forget? The music software there's 2 I seem to think but I never could find it but let in was on the Spectrums which had to but Amiga that name was the first.
@SuperVstech
@SuperVstech 4 жыл бұрын
One day, I’m going to wake up in another universe where the Amiga never went to shit, and we all have realistic VR, amazing true multitasking, strong Amiga workbench XVI, and a incredibly powerful company that runs little Microsoft apps, and apple is little more than a fond memory of a failed company...
@Giljrg
@Giljrg 5 жыл бұрын
All well and good but only runs on dead or overpriced hardware. Lets see what happens when you can run a fully fledged Amiga based OS on raspberry pi native or PC
@llchristubell
@llchristubell 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, the legacy of Amiga are all of us with modern computer skills who started on the Amiga. Shame the machines are no longer around, but even Linux has a tough time carving out market share on the desktop.
@heidirichter
@heidirichter 5 жыл бұрын
May I suggest checking out AmiKit 11? Sure, it's not native and runs in an emulator, but I do think it's well worth checking out, and AmiKit 8 is free to download and try out to see if it's something you might find worthwhile.
@Giljrg
@Giljrg 5 жыл бұрын
llchristubell it would help if amigans weren’t intent on sticking to dead architectures. ARM is the future, a small ‘maker board’ on ARM would be brilliant, there’s a huge market in the maker space for small powerful boards with GPIO and good GPU
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
@@Giljrg Yes I may do a video on how amiga engineers were originally aiming for ARM rather then PPC. Arm would of made total sense. I think they are aiming to go 86k with Morphos in the future.
@beezle1976
@beezle1976 5 жыл бұрын
Already exists and is called AROS. It's also free and open source. Runs on x86, x86-64, ppc, 68K and ARM
@jkdsteve
@jkdsteve 2 жыл бұрын
All those wasted years, 17!!!!!, when MorphOS could have been officially adopted and moved the Amiga platform forward but with a much larger user base
@TemalCageman
@TemalCageman Жыл бұрын
No, no no.... that is not true at all... AmigaOS 4.0 was released in December 2006 after 5 years of developement. Two years later, in 2008, AmigaOS 4.1 was released.
@inachu
@inachu 4 жыл бұрын
I also miss my voodoo5 video card.
@CryptidZookeeper
@CryptidZookeeper 4 жыл бұрын
Some day someone will realise that the Amiga brand is a curse that kills any company it touches.
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
lol i think many people realized that years ago
@Reactivate100
@Reactivate100 4 жыл бұрын
Outdated technology. Why anyone would want to use anything other than Windows 10 is beyond me.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reactivate100 Not even Win 10. Why not make the software for x86 and ARM? Linux has survived, and even thrived in some sectors, on x86 and ARM.
@disasterincarnate
@disasterincarnate 4 жыл бұрын
i always saw it as troubled companys hoping to be saved by sitting back like commodore and hoping the cash flew in are the ones who always cursed themselves when they bought amiga.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 4 жыл бұрын
@@disasterincarnate Indeed. The Amiga brand isn't the cursed, it's the cursed. If someone who knew what the fuck they were doing got a hold of it between 1996-2006, the undustry might look different today.
@DugganSean
@DugganSean 4 жыл бұрын
Loved my A500, with flicker fixer, 68020 CPU (iirc) upgrade, 8mb ram, SCSI card and full sized HD'S in a bodged tower case. Then my A4000 (god how I hated the IDE not SCSI in that). Great times when men were men and knew how to fight the good fight with hardware and software setup. Great memories but I can't imagine why anyone would buy into this next generation Amiga.. PC hardware with Windows or Linux offers so much more and for fun projects use a Raspberry or other SBC..
@retrotechnical
@retrotechnical 4 жыл бұрын
I like Morphos but....a Powermac G5 with OSX plays 720P KZfaq, plays 1080P h264 with ease, has a huge library of pro legacy software for audio, graphics and video available and if you need a retro Amiga hit, the Big E-UAE Jit emulator runs 68K perfectly.
@josedourado3747
@josedourado3747 4 жыл бұрын
I can't forget my amiga smooth scrolling while running at just 7 mhz, My 4 stereo channels......😣
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 4 жыл бұрын
@Brad Allen 14 bit audio plus 2 envelope bits, effectively 16 bit audio if programmed correctly.
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 4 жыл бұрын
and four channels of course.
@josedourado3747
@josedourado3747 4 жыл бұрын
@Brad Allen 2 for left 2 for right. 4 mono channels to be precise yes.
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 4 жыл бұрын
@Brad Allen four 14 bit channels
@joefish6091
@joefish6091 4 жыл бұрын
The sound chip, named Paula, supports four PCM-sample-based sound channels (two for the left speaker and two for the right) with 8-bit resolution for each channel and a 6-bit volume control per channel. so 14 bits
@chesterhackenbush
@chesterhackenbush 4 жыл бұрын
The ONLY way Amiga could ever make a comeback is if it goes "open source", uses off the shelf processors and hardware. It would need to be a VERY lean and fast OS with no bloatware and would probably rely on Linux libraries for a long long time.
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
i agree
@goclunker
@goclunker 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my powermac g4
@3dmotormaker
@3dmotormaker 4 жыл бұрын
I have run the classic Amiga in emulation since the middle/late 90's. I am not sure there is a real use case for OS4 or MorphOS in 2019 and beyond. I mean Christ PPC architecture lol give me a break. Now if they did a x64 version to run on micro computers, like the intel NUC or many of the net top computers around, then they *might* have a future. If there is any emulation involved it needs to be completely transparent to the user.
@osscar29
@osscar29 4 жыл бұрын
The cold hard facts of life lol.
@RavenShinyThings
@RavenShinyThings 4 жыл бұрын
why stop with the wii when you could try running morphos on the wii-u or xbox 360 but I guess less exploits
@Miesiu
@Miesiu 4 жыл бұрын
Mplayer, MilkyTracker and more - this is branded Linux next distro.
@Djformula
@Djformula 4 жыл бұрын
well no, those are ports
@Dragonblaster1
@Dragonblaster1 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Amiga 1200 + HDD + 68060 in a small PC case... maybe it's worth getting her out of the shed...
@obsoletepowercorrupts
@obsoletepowercorrupts 5 жыл бұрын
Mostly, it's all about games. Even though a whole new amiga (e.g. powerPC or coldfire or dual-CPU 680x0) could have been made, if Escom were trying to be as budget as possible by selling the a1200, they could have done a good job of it with a few tweaks, and amigans would have bought the machine had it been named the cd1200 or a12cd. The a1200 would have needed 2meg FastRAM on the MBoard, (thereby giving 4meg when added to the ChipRAM, and it is a minimal change to the hardware design compared to more ChipRAM even though it would have been nice). At the time people moaned how the a1200 should have had at least a 68030, however maybe they are wrong and the existing 68020 would have done, had it been overclocked to a stable 28MHz (since, with fastRAM it will run like a 68030 of 24MHz which is an a3000 basically). An FPU should have been added too, and it'd just require the pull-up resistor/capacitor arrangement. Also, putting on the akiko would be worthwhile and allow a cheap way to help a CDROM drive (and c2p with FPU pre-calculation in future games). With that in mind, instead of bothering with the coding of the new workbench, a better kickstart and a "game bundle deal" to include a CDROM version of an existing game (like Gloom or AlienBreed3D or whatever) but with an expansion pack on the same CDROM (optimised for FPU pre-calc) would have been a wiser usage of software development resources. Lastly, the parallel port could have been upgraded so as to allow either a CDROM or HardDrive to be plugged in (depending on whether a laptop CDROM was to go in the IDE, or whether a HDD would go there, thusly vice versa). The kickstart would allow parallel-port booting. The akiko might have helped the CDROM a bit. Then, of course, flinging in a CDROM drive, as either a laptop slim one internally (for the IDE) or a parallel port one. The changing of the parallel port to allow all this would be the bigger challenge with the 68020, and even the 68030 had its own serial. It would have been worth it though. An rj45 ethernet would have been wise. Bundling the cd32 joypad in it but adding an extra gravis-compatible analogue thumbstick on it would have been good for games. All of this doesn't take that much development. Not a big undertaking. Don't even need to change the sound. Nobody truly cared about the "low quality" sound. The sound was cool anyway. Also a CDROM (even the a570) could use a AudioCD "passthrough" for music. The Escom company had CDROM drives. All of this would have left the trapdoor expansion untouched and so an upgrade for the FMV cartridge and a PowerPC (or coldfire) all-in-one-addon could have been released later as an official product if they really felt they wanted to, but by then mpeg2 could have been added on it for "FMV" with a PCI breakout cable to add a HBA for a DVD (which runs at 10x CDROM, exceeding the parallel port's 6xCDROM speed which it would not have run so fast anyway). Also RAM would be cheaper by then, and graphics could have been included (such as the Hombre but with a 32bit blitter), and a TV-capture-Card to continue the video-toaster strengths, and upgrading the soundcard. Release a new OS with that "all-in-one" tradoor expansion if needed (and leave a RAM slot on it for SIMM or even SDRAM if released late enough). A dual-CPU architecture would have made sense one day, upon success of the 28MHz 68020 adaptations already said.
@Djformula
@Djformula 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh I was really excited about coldfire as well. Its intresting as when chatting to dave hainye he mention they were working on an amiga graphics card to plug into pc or risc pc based on a continuation of cd32 much like your ideas.
@obsoletepowercorrupts
@obsoletepowercorrupts 5 жыл бұрын
@@Djformula The a12cd "mod" above could have been done by escom because it can be done today even by a semi-professional (or good amateur) modder or system customiser. Not a big undertaking. Even a double kickstart ROM switcher with a blank ROM bay could have allowed time for the kickstart to be rewritten and delivered to registered users by post while cdboot floppy is used meantime, and while workaround floppy kickstarts could have been released on magazines. Or they could just write the rom from the start. A cd32 ROM can be loaded onto an a1200 to run the microcosm ISO using a modern accelertor. The MJnurney channel is currently looking at booting a real CDROM that way on the a1200.
@wskinnyodden
@wskinnyodden 7 ай бұрын
Running it on a 1.3Ghz iBook G4 with 768Mb RAM :) Need to swap the HDD by a CF or sumthing :P
@OscarCastillo1
@OscarCastillo1 5 жыл бұрын
Commodore went "tits up". Gotta love Britishisms. Good video.
@AussieAmigan
@AussieAmigan 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they'd gone ARM instead of PPC. Amiga OS would be running on something akin to the lowest cost computers around, like the Raspberry Pi, or maybe even a phone. Did AROS native ever get anywhere on the Pi? I'd much rather run that than Debian especially when my pi case is a miniature A500.
@RasVoja
@RasVoja 5 жыл бұрын
Would repeat your words
@Vanadain
@Vanadain 4 жыл бұрын
Jedi Outcast!
@oestrek
@oestrek 4 жыл бұрын
That blender version is f%**I%$ing old.
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