AMISH: Her Unlicensed Midwives Used Veterinary Tools

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Having been blissfully unaware of the methods of control and "ownership" of women growing up in the Amish, Elizabeth was not prepared for the dark and brutal marriage that followed. Her husband forbid her to going to the hospital for her 8 births which left her in questionable and dangerous hands. After she finally got the courage to get police involved, her community put her in shunning for 4 years straight, before she realized she could no longer be Amish and escaped with her 7 sons.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:03:09 The Swiss Amish community Elizabeth was a part of
00:05:10 Blissfully unaware of dark secrets- when the questions started
00:08:17 Modesty standards & clothing requirements
00:15:21 At 16 she was allowed to join youth groups and date
00:17:14 The dangers of forced marriage after s*x
00:19:10 What were the rules of dating?
00:20:46 "Shotgun weddings" for the sinners
00:22:55 What was her s*x- ed like in her community?
00:25:20 Hands off courtships and public shaming confessionals
00:25:47 TW: SA & beastial*ty
00:29:34 TW: SA- The issue with public forgive and forget confessionals
00:34:20 The red flags she missed when dating her soon-to-be husband
00:35:06 Her marriage went downhill on day one
00:36:10 TW: SA during pregnancy
00:41:34 The new rules in a different district- Extra amenities!
00:43:10 TW: Infant de*th- Her 7 back to back pregnancies
00:43:03 TW: SA & DV
00:47:12 TW: Infant de*th & miscarriage
00:47:46 Elizabeth sunk into a deep depression & needed help
00:49:09 What birthing in her Amish community was like
00:54:37 S*x immediately after childbirth???
00:57:05 Her time spent at the mental health facility
00:58:10 TW: SA & DV
00:59:39 TW: DV- The police were finally called on her husband
01:00:58 TW: SA- The beginning of her escape from the Amish
01:06:49 Elizabeth moved to another Amish community in perpetual shunning
01:09:51 4 years of shunning within her community!
01:14:47 How she is acclimating to her new life with her 7 sons
01:17:58 Elizabeth's FAVORITE modern day conveniences
01:21:27 Linda, Listen
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@brandimcgoff8626 10 ай бұрын

Seeing her eyes light up talking about washer and dryer was so sweet! She is a hero!

@CultstoConsciousness 10 ай бұрын

One of my favorite parts too 😁

@kaycarle8361 9 ай бұрын

I got my first dishwasher when we had three little children. I have six now and I still love love love my dishwasher.

@carolclover1238 8 ай бұрын

youre.. AMAZING....KEEP GOING FORWARD

@brendatomlinson 7 ай бұрын

I can’t wait for a day I have my own washer, dryer and dishwasher in my home. I will have that same glee in my eyes too.

@kttunsntell6626 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth’s little boys sticking up for her while watching their mum be abused made me tear up 😢 what Amazing lady

@nerysghemor5781 10 ай бұрын

And it sounds like she had enough influence on those boys that they didn't imitate their father's evil example. Who knows, maybe she also told them about how their grandfather is, because it sounds like he showed her that a man could be something other than what they were seeing in their home.

@jamescressman4249 8 ай бұрын

@@nerysghemor5781⁸😮😮

@invest_in_dogecoin6398 4 ай бұрын

She wasn’t abused don’t be dramatic

@roykriletich8751 3 ай бұрын

@@invest_in_dogecoin6398what was it called then

@MimiDidi121 3 ай бұрын

Sex between 2 consenting unmarried adults got way worse punishment than sex between a small child and her father or brother was swept under the rug! SMH😢

@Gjigfvniyf 10 ай бұрын

I’m shocked and heartened by the absolutely impeccable response the police officers in her area had to this situation. It’s amazing they were able to get her out safely and let her know what was happening was not okay

@AppalachianRoots 10 ай бұрын

I grew up in Vera Cruz, Indiana and the police in these areas understand what goes on and we’re at least in the 90’s trained to help Amish women. My dads friend was a sheriff deputy and he helped many Amish women get help.

@therealbooty 10 ай бұрын

I literally clapped when she said with her chest “I escaped a cult!” ❤ Her energy makes my heart smile.

@CultstoConsciousness 10 ай бұрын

So good, right?!

@Rye_Toast 10 ай бұрын

Same same same!!

@charityhostetter8123 10 ай бұрын

God continue to bless you and your boys!!! May He watch over your boys and protect them as they go through these trials they are facing!! ♥️🙏

@katiempojer 10 ай бұрын

I really like this woman a lot! She is just a joyful person. I feel bad for her because it seems she has an incredible family.

@debrawilson2893 9 ай бұрын

Stay on Solid Ground with the Lord Jesus who will never leave you nor forsake you!😇

@Chelseabee55 10 ай бұрын

She is the mother every child deserves! What a strong woman

@Clamb6453 10 ай бұрын

This is the real life story of Wonder Woman! So inspiring. The love and ferocious spirit of a mama bear protecting herself and her cubs.

@lizzybeary 10 ай бұрын

The strength and resilience of this woman is unfathomable. I believe her childhood helped to make her strong. Her parents were loving and also had a rebellious streak that was definitely passed on. It blows my mind that people would be so invested in their ways that they would overlook the safety and wellbeing of someone in their own community. Im so glad she had help along the way in spite of it. Im happy she found her independence and personal sovereignty as Shelise says. So good to hear her laugh! Sounds like shes raising some incredible human beings!

@katiempojer 10 ай бұрын

Yes she is SO joyful, the love she talks about of her parents is wonderful. It is good to see that people have good experiences in the Amish community, It seems like her Dad really watched out for his daughters.

@gipsi2001 8 ай бұрын

This is an incredible story. As a Swiss I can only say that the Amish are continuing ways that probably never existed when they left Switzerland. They were thought up by people who are into power and control!!!!!!

@isabellae.238 10 ай бұрын

Her communication skills are impeccable. I loved hearing her explain the innocence of her childhood.

@loanicastillo3327 10 ай бұрын

I don't see how it could be any other way.

@dontalkback8067 4 ай бұрын

I agree about her communication! She is great at it. She'll succeed at whatever she does, I know it!

@MimiDidi121 3 ай бұрын

“That there” made me smile each time! I know it’s a cultural thing. I know living in the south there are things like that.

@thepresence365 10 ай бұрын

Her energy -- her hopefulness, her pride in her children, her humor, her kindness, her clarity -- it's so inspiring. Thank you for your story!

@Musechild 8 ай бұрын

Elizabeth is so incredibly brave and strong She deserves all the kindness the world has to offer

@dawnbezio427 8 ай бұрын

She is a true angel🤍🕊️

@invest_in_dogecoin6398 4 ай бұрын

She’s a quitter. Should’ve stayed with the Amish

@pollsfriend 10 ай бұрын

I’m so glad to see Amish and Mennonite women getting a platform here. I was raised conservative Mennonite; fortunately I had a fantastic family and upbringing. But many I knew didn’t have this. Abuse-sexual, physical, emotional, and spiritual- are rampant. And the victims are blamed and silenced. Thank god You this is finally coming to light.

@katiempojer 10 ай бұрын

It all comes down to family. And how you are raised

@nickywal 10 ай бұрын

@@katiempojerThe problem is these groups allow the bad to flourish in a way that the children being in society wouldn't. Or at least not as extreme, we've all the cases of seemingly happy families that were abusive. You tell some people they have absolute control over someone or something and they'll do anything to maintain it, whether its kids or dogs

@maryannehenderson6023 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth you are the definition of Mother Courage! God is on your side and your boys. Love Love Love.

@loanicastillo3327 10 ай бұрын

That is because you have too many children, not because you are Amish or mennonite. We have a lot of that in Latin America too. It is the legacy of large families. It is hard to love a large family. Land is a limited space. Two children is the top you can have. I am a Engineer.

@nickywal 10 ай бұрын

@@loanicastillo3327I mean I'm Irish, so a lot of large families here presumably for the same reason as in Latin America, the Catholic church holds so much power. My manager is the youngest of 10, he's the same age as his nephew. You can figure out ways to connect with each child, I know one of the people from the FLDS was saying his mom would just take them one on one and get ice cream and she had about 10 kids herself I think.

@jenjenb1209 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth you are a sparkle of light. Always remember WE BELIEVE IN YOU!!!

@rachelann9362 10 ай бұрын

I am so glad that the Sheriff she encountered was an AWESOME police officer. He gave her the space she needed to talk, without leading. He knew and recognized just how dangerous the situation was-I don’t know the particulars of the story she told him, but based on the events she described throughout the marriage I was thinking “she was one rage away from dying at any moment.” Good on him for recognizing it and more importantly BELIEVED her, and instantly made her aware just how threatening the situation was and that they were NOT going to wait. The Sheriff did EXACTLY what he needed to do. That was a GOOD man. I am glad she had such loving and caring parents. They had their faults, but they created one tough lady. My heart hurts for all the pain and trauma her kids went through, and I know something like that will stick with you. I am glad she moved to a community that was overall support active and caring, despite the issues she had with the shunning and the restrictions placed on her. They really could have turned their backs completely on her, they didn’t. They made it safe for her to raise her kids while they were going through the initial stages of post-abuse living. They gave her money to live independently without having to worry about who would be raising her kids if she had to work. I think it’s okay to thank them for their generosity and overall kindness, while also recognizing that trying to push her back to her horribly abusive ex in order to be unshunned and excommunicated if she refused to forgive and reconcile with him was absolutely wrong.

@elissarn8529 10 ай бұрын

As others have said, she needs to get to a licensed physician SOON to have her thyroid checked! That being said, this is one of the best stories of perseverance and faith I have heard for a long time! SO glad she was able to get away from her abuser and get child support for her sons!

@suefrisk8505 10 ай бұрын

Please go and see a Doctor for a checkup?! I am worried that Elizabeth seems to be short of breath? Thyroid issues have also been suggested! Good luck!!

@loanicastillo3327 10 ай бұрын

Having so many children is harming for your tyroid.

@jeanettelebarron3306 8 ай бұрын

She is a warrior! Yes she needs to have her thyroid checked. She may have a goiter

@mary-kittybonkers2374 8 ай бұрын

When I first started watching the video I thought that the swelling on her neck might be a goitre. I agree that she should get it checked by a licensed physician/endocrinologist. She’s an amazing lady.

@bobbieyoungmajors486 4 күн бұрын

❤

@katwitanruna 10 ай бұрын

Break the silence. Break the cycle.

@1ACL 10 ай бұрын

God bless that policeman. Who knows what could have happened without him. I wonder how many women are murdered in these communities, and how they are covered up.

@juanitamiller8888 7 ай бұрын

I’ve only heard of one or 2 women who got murdered in the Amish community, it’s very rare as the Amish believe in non resistance. More likely what happens is the women commit suicide. Which is also rare, most women just Silently suffer. They are often very shut Down emotionally and don’t have the energy and grit to do what Elizabeth did.

@1ACL 7 ай бұрын

People "believe" in a lot of things they do not follow with actions. Maybe I am cynical, but I am more inclined to believe they cover things up. @@juanitamiller8888

@suchasweety138 10 ай бұрын

Something I recently was told is that 80% of teenage relationships are abusive relationships. Parents may talk about abusive relationships, but don't go into details about what that looks like or how to identify an abusive relationship. So I immediately went to my son and talked about, in detail, how to identify red flags, and how to listen and look for his own red flags. I also gave examples and and talked about how the people in the relationship don't always see or find ways to justify abusive behavior.

@kadenkohl782 9 ай бұрын

80% is crazy and not true.

@lexyshannon9428 8 ай бұрын

My first relationship turned into a very mildly abusive one in the end. It's almost comforting to know that all the toxicity we faced as teens was valid.

@frankieamsden7918 6 ай бұрын

Where can I find this information?

@LisaR2392 10 ай бұрын

This woman is literally a ray of sunshine!!! I would love to just spend the day with her! She is soooo positive!! And you can absolutely see Jesus in this woman!!! I just want to hug her!!

@Fern_Thaddeus 10 ай бұрын

Same ❤

@amandaallen3150 10 ай бұрын

What a sweet, beautiful woman! I’m constantly amazed by how survivors of trauma can be so kind. Thanks for giving women a safe space to share their stories. ❤❤❤

@ah5721 9 ай бұрын

I gave birth with a certified nurse midwife who helped the Amish and had moved to Arizona . She helped me heal and recover from being stitched up wrong by a nurse midwife from a hospital with my first birth, I miss her care. It breaks my heart that they don't realise they need women to get good Certified Midwives for their safety ! Shame on that community ! For everything they did to her..

@javaskull88 10 ай бұрын

When visiting Ohio or Indiana, I have seen the Amish people and wondered what their world was like. Our modern world is so insane, it makes the Amish life seem appealing. But I was pretty sure the actual lives of these people is difficult, and that the women in particular had a very limited and difficult life. I appreciate your guest’s courage in coming forth, and I wish her well.

@Jerry-tk7hn 10 ай бұрын

They are each different you can hear the Amish do this or the Amish do that but no two groups are the same like if you watch Amish potato he grew up in a more modern group than Ely like Carl or C.J whichever you call him his mom told him about if anyone tries to touch you to come to her but Ely's mom didn't say anything to him .and even tho they're old order he went to public school. Even tho they're both out of the religion C.J is more progressive in his Christianity and Ely is that old REPENT scream in your face kinda Christianity and C.J is more about Jesus love kinda christianity.

@loanicastillo3327 10 ай бұрын

That is because they have too many children, like in Regency Era, that their life is difficult. Life in the countryside is beautiful.

@Lisa.Sparkman 9 ай бұрын

@@loanicastillo3327it isn't about number of children that you have it's about the culture and the rules that the people have to follow

@utej.k.bemsel4777 9 ай бұрын

@@loanicastillo3327Having many kids isn't the problem, as long as they are conceived and raised in love and you can afford them!

@loanicastillo3327 9 ай бұрын

@@utej.k.bemsel4777 Fortunately most people are poor enough not to have them. The Earth is a finite place. Do you imagine immigrants were allowed to enter the country and have as many children as they willed what that would be?

@RebeccaAnnette 8 ай бұрын

“How did you survive?” (I love how Elisabeth’s face lights up when she answers the question) “With Jesus!” ❤

@ronnaalthoff9175 6 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@lisaannette62 5 ай бұрын

Yes! I felt the same! Hallelujah!

@jupiterjupiter9057 2 ай бұрын

So dumb

@deedee2284 Ай бұрын

I was like, hey, that's my answer too!

@customleathertooling2020 7 ай бұрын

Elizabeth, I'm glad that you have kept your faith in Jesus. You've been able to separate the teachings of the church from your faith in God. So many cannot do this. You inspire me sweet lady!

@jillosterhaus7308 10 ай бұрын

She IS Wonder Woman!!! What an INCREDIBLE woman, mother, and community member. Anyone should be LUCKY to know her.

@katwitanruna 10 ай бұрын

May the memories of love outweigh the grief of loss for your child.

@katherinekhan6892 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth is such a dear heart.

@karenkennedy6331 10 ай бұрын

I can understand I live with a narcissistic husband, I have had emotional abuse, not physical abuse( he stops) I told him I would call the cops. It’s all about them, never ever take responsibility for any action they do, ❤ so lucky to find such an understanding cop.

@CHPetMom 10 ай бұрын

I hope you can find your own peace and freedom away from him. I left my abusive husband after 30 years - long story short, he made sure that I could not leave him - so it is possible to find peace. The last year and a half have been the best months of my life. Many hugs and blessings.

@samsalamander8147 10 ай бұрын

Accidents can happen, I would remind him of that fact next time he comes close to the line with his abuse. I would say it then gaslight him and pretend you never did, he must just be paranoid and he must be thinking that himself. Turn the tables and play the game, he will most likely leave you alone because it won’t be fun anymore to abuse you, he will need to find a new plaything to feed his narcissistic supply. The only time you should give him any attention is if your trying to manipulate him other than that “gray rock” him to death and give him no interactions beyond what benefits you.

@CultstoConsciousness 10 ай бұрын

Wishing the best for you!❤️

@hexonyou 10 ай бұрын

dangerous advice@@samsalamander8147

@SpecialSP 10 ай бұрын

I'm sorry that I can ONLY give one "LIKE." Elizabeth is SO STRONG and I ADMIRE HER COURAGE ! ! ! Women are much stronger than they think, particularly when put in situations that involve her children. Thank you for your candor, Elizabeth.❤

@katythriftyunder35homeowne57 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the work you to to provide a platform for people to tell their stories, Shaylene. You're a hero

@Beginnerreadsthebible 10 ай бұрын

Shelise

@thechrononautswife-dorothy 10 ай бұрын

@@Beginnerreadsthebible I was about to say: *Shelise a name autocorrect dislikes☹️, but I think is beautiful❤

@CultstoConsciousness 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and supporting!❤️🙏

@foodfornot 10 ай бұрын

@@CultstoConsciousnessI would love to know how your parents picked your name, it's so unique and beautiful!!

@adriannecote5319 10 ай бұрын

When you lose a child the pain never leaves. You just learn to tolerate that pain.

@user-hz2nb2wq9c 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth is amazing. She is so well-spoken and clear, and clearly intelligent. I'm thrilled that she's been able to escape and bring her boys out of that community and thrive in their new life. Keep on keeping on, Elizabeth; you and your sons are so fortunate to have each other. Much love.

@julieovervold8931 10 ай бұрын

When she said she “had the privilege of being my moms maid” I felt that 🥹❣️🙏 what an incredibly beautiful soul.

@Fern_Thaddeus 10 ай бұрын

YESSSS ❤🥹

@kathyhorner2576 9 ай бұрын

Bless you! You are so strong and you made it to the other side-I wish you and your sons the very best life has to give!

@dontalkback8067 4 ай бұрын

She has a very bright spirit that I admire greatly & I can see the reason....She is a strong believer in Jesus! I'm glad she didn't lose faith & kept fighting. God Bless you, dear sweet Elizabeth!

@dragonzone-le5hv 10 ай бұрын

I’m an abuse victim as a child that was adopted at birth . I’m not a survivor because the trauma despite my parents getting therapy is so great that I don’t know if I’ll still be here in five years. I’m not trying to make this about me, but it’s so frustrating how people don’t understand the true struggle of abuse and how it affects people even after they have changed or moved on. Her abusers will literally never understand what they did to her and they get to move on. She seems so happy despite her experiences. I love that for her and I hope I’ll make it to that point.

@jeanettelebarron3306 8 ай бұрын

Please get some mental heath counseling. You deserve it. 😘

@joyceburns2613 7 ай бұрын

Trust and believe in Jesus dear one, read the Bible and search the scriptures, and you'll find that you're still here because He was with you all the time. His Grace has been sufficient, even through the trials you've endured. Be strong in Him, and believe He has a plan for you. Read Jeremiah 29:11 🙏 please

@judyives1832 7 ай бұрын

@@joyceburns2613 I understand that you believe this and I respect your choice to be religious but this is not a good place to preach. Many of us have been abused by religious dogmas that insist on women having degraded and subservient roles as recommended in the Bible. It’s not very respectful or kind to preach your religion to the people who suffered from it. I understand that you think it’s a positive message but it’s the opposite.

@frankieamsden7918 6 ай бұрын

Please don't give up. You are deserving of love and happiness and joy and HEALING. Healing can still happen. A little at a time is ok. I'm an abuse survivor but that doesn't mean it's all in the past and done with. I still have triggers and bad times but I have decided to spite my abusers by surviving. I'm proud of you.

@michelep.7249 6 ай бұрын

I used to have really negative thoughts about myself and a low self esteem while growing up. I discovered mantra meditation around 30 years of age and learned mantra meditation could change my thoughts. I would recite a positive mantra 45 minutes a day 5 days a week and would change my mantra every week. I noticed my thoughts became more calm and over time my thoughts became more positive. Also, recommend reading The Sedona Method by Hale Dwoskin. The Sedona Method teaches that when we resist feelings they persist and that we should feel feelings until they release. Feeling feelings can be painful, but it is best to acknowledge the pain and feel it than to resist the painful feelings. What we resist persists. Also, see a therapist as well.

@monaalice9500 10 ай бұрын

These experiences are fascinating but heartbreaking. Thank you Shelise, and also thank you Eli for suggesting Elizabeth as a guest. I'm truly happy that you all escaped and are living your best lives.

@CultstoConsciousness 10 ай бұрын

❤️

@loyvanboxel1494 9 ай бұрын

Her innocence and her strength is so refreshing

@ahuvachambers3333 10 ай бұрын

I love her honesty and strait forward with her story. I wish her and the boys all the best. Women are not a property, they are partners in life. Good Luck Elizabeth.

@allisavercool227 10 ай бұрын

Being court ordered into the same building as an abusive parent really sucks, but with headphones and a phone with an internet connection you can ignore almost anything

@dawnebohme1953 5 ай бұрын

Elisabeth's close relationship with Jesus so evident . Thank you, Jesus, for keeping this lovely woman and her 7 boys, bringing them out of their Egypt into a safer, happier place!

@bonniemeyer1301 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth is incredibly courageous. I am so happy that she persevered, and was able to make a beautiful life for herself and her seven sons.

@larkspurrose3136 7 ай бұрын

I love you Elizabeth!!!! I have lived closely among old order Amish for 17 years. I lived much like them in conservative belief and dress and tried to be among their community as much as possible without leaving my church. I just loved hearing you speak. I love hearing about your happy family. I know so many beautiful Amish people. But I also understand the dark side. Its so sad. I'm so proud of you for getting out, loving Jesus and living your best life!!! I also have 10 kids, and I applaud you for your bravery in breaking out from the cycle amidst deep held beliefs of woman's submission and thinking that suffering is just our lot in life. You are a feirce boy mama!!! I lost a baby in 2007. I had a plain man tell me that I should be happy because he was with Jesus. NOT what a grieving mother needs to hear.

@patandnikki1010 10 ай бұрын

I am currently on a train from Chicago to Massachusettes and the train is full of Amish. It truly breaks my heart knowing everything that happens in these communities.

@sarah2.017 10 ай бұрын

They're really no different from "us."

@wiltedblonde 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for having Elizabeth on to share her story! It’s great to see her positivity and that she did not abandon all faith .❤

@kaseyy51 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for an amazing story. Congratulations Elizabeth…you are a brave and amazing woman.

@nickywal 10 ай бұрын

Its horrifying how often in these groups, women are told their sole purpose is to have as many children as possible but no real reproductive healthcare or even education happens. We've known childbirth is one of the most dangerous things people can go through for forever. Also has she had her thyroid tested? With the weight gain and that definitely looks like a goitre? It just goes to show how often these groups allow people with extreme personality disorders to thrive, not everyone with ASPD is dangerous, but a hell of a lot are

@IKilledEarl 10 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. She definitely needs to get her thyroid checked!

@lizzybeary 10 ай бұрын

The men can't let the women think they're too important, otherwise the women will realize they have all the power. Theres also a rejection of medicine and medical intervention in some Christian derived communities. Also, in the US in general, mothers are not cared for very well. 6 weeks maternity leave? Insanity!

@foxibot 10 ай бұрын

My dr warned me childbirth was still hugely risky, I think she said it really hasn’t changed that much from many many years ago. She was worried once I met back up in my life with my fiancé who I have known since I was a teen, that I would want to have children and I have serious health issues so she lectured me for 45 minutes on all the reasons it was still too risky.

@lidiagutierrez7983 10 ай бұрын

Women are baby making machines in these groups, their uterus is the only thing that matters for their leaders, little they care about the quality of life of the mother and their offspring, absolutely inhumane 😮

@conniegodar8146 10 ай бұрын

This beautiful lady needs a full health workup. I noticed the enlarged thyroid right away. Many prayers for this sweet soul and her family.

@BrokeStudentBeauty 10 ай бұрын

I am so amazed by Elizabeth's resilience and warmth. She is truly an incredible person ❤

@Valiant.Unicorn 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth ❤you have so much love in your heart. Thank you so much for sharing your experience. So glad you had all boys, I worry what a man like Willis would've done to a daughter. Love the healing you've done for you and your kids ❤️ ✨️

@kaseyhudson8913 9 ай бұрын

I very rarely comment on KZfaq but this woman is absolutely amazing. I love her calm, and her silent strength. She's an inspiration ❤

@lindseyhendrix2405 10 ай бұрын

13:19 “there’s no person, no religious circle, no preacher, no bishop, no minister, no pastor, no nothing that can ever cut your connections with god. That will happen with you alone. If your connection is cut from God, it is from you alone.” AMEN, ma’am! 🔥🔥🔥💛

@tabithapowell9632 10 ай бұрын

What a sweet and pure soul. You can just tell what an amazing human she is. So glad she stuck to her guns and protected her and her kiddos! Much love

@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016 10 ай бұрын

What sweet sons to worry about their Mom. So sorry to hear about your abuse. Thank you for sharing. I’m live close to an Amish area in Illinois. I had no idea.

@milliehummer4713 8 ай бұрын

I was married to a narcissist with anti personality disorder for thirty years. I suffered horrible abuse including physical, emotional, verbal, sexual & financial abuse. He kicked me in the abdomen when I was seven months pregnant with my third child. I am amazed that Elizabeth escaped knowing how hard it was for me. God bless her and her children.

@totonow6955 10 ай бұрын

I wish I lived next door to Elizabeth. She is awesome.

@mary-janebelec9082 10 ай бұрын

Just to clarify: untreated trauma does not fade over time! It gets much bigger & will bite you in the ass in many dysfunctional ways.

@marymarysmarket3508 10 ай бұрын

Yep...you can bury your feelings...but you bury them alive

@kimkrebs451 9 ай бұрын

Agreed

@raigenhuss7030 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth seems like such a lovely person. Thank you for having her on

@carolynbosela9061 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth you are a wonderful light glorifying our Lord Jesus! May you know countless blessings daily from God above. 💜

@peggylauer7649 9 ай бұрын

Hello from Syracuse, Indiana.. I spend a fair amount of time in Milford... Hope I see you some time in passing!.. GOD BLESS YOU!

@wildflowersunshine21 10 ай бұрын

For Elizabeth, I started listening to this podcast yesterday, and I'm finishing it this morning, October 3. I'm praying for you and your boys today as I can't imagine what an emotional and stressful day it must be for you all! Praise God for your faith! So many people lose it when authorities misuse religion. I know God has a beautiful life in store for you. ❤️

@lararabb8888 9 ай бұрын

I'm so happy you are in a much better/happier place. So sorry for all you & your boys had to lose & endure. Blessings to your family.

@judysmart-deveaux6211 9 ай бұрын

God bless you Elizabeth. We are so proud of you. God is so good. We are proud of your boys standing up for you. We are proud of your son (s) giving their hearts to Jesus. Live, laugh and love Elizabeth Dear. God got you. May God keep you and your sons safe.

@annelee5633 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this guest with us... She is so awesome!!!! ❤

@davidlester7066 10 ай бұрын

I live in the UK and have a limited insight to communities such as the Amish so thanks for sharing from the heart.

@antidotetochaoschats 8 ай бұрын

Elizabeth is amazing. What a fabulous testimony of Gods faithfulness. I am so happy for her to have escaped. God sent the right Sherrif. God is good. Humans can be evil. ❤ blessings to you and your boys! Keep sharing your story!

@sandraevans7246 8 ай бұрын

Oh, I just love you! You are an amazing woman. I will pray for you and your boys.

@Mamalaura208 10 ай бұрын

This is such an amazing story and woman! I absolutely love her view and telling that not all Amish are bad/harmful. What she went through is horrible and nobody should ever have to deal with such abuse. She is an amazing woman who deserves to have a good life with her sons.

@lucienneglaiser7563 10 ай бұрын

What a beautiful lady, a true example of triumph over adversity.

@ftmb1022 8 ай бұрын

My heart is just so happy for her. God is a healer and a redeemer!!! God bless her and keep her and her 7 boys.

@QueenGummibBear 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for adding infant passing as a TW - not many people do and it’s a massive thing that affects me and ruins my day bringing up memories. I am grateful that you do mention it at the start and I can give this episode a miss. Thanks again ❤

@anitazimmerman8412 10 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, I love Elizabeth!! I teared up a few times and that is unusual for me. I was mennonite, but one time when we moved, we bought an amish house, because it was the only big enough for us 12 kids 😆 and a lot of our neighbors were amish, growing up there. My heart goes out to her, and I love her strong faith and courage so much. ❤❤❤

@TracyLeaBeauty 10 ай бұрын

Hi ! I just spotted your channel on my home page! I too, was born & raised in a cult-the Jehovah’s Witness cult! This year marks 11 years I’ve been out! I was 43 when I left! I was born in & all my family were raised the same way! My 2 kids got me out, they showed me all the things going on & once I clicked onto Google & then KZfaq, I couldn’t believe I was in a cult and didn’t even know😱 if you have any questions, ask away!! I’d be happy to answer!!!😃

@colleen4400 10 ай бұрын

💖 This is so moving. What strength this woman has. My heart goes out to her for what she was put through, both the crimes perpetrated upon her by her abusive husband, but also from the patriotic mentality of the cult she escaped and has survived. Hats off to you, Elizabeth!

@charlotteschaefers5129 8 ай бұрын

Such a beautiful mother.

@minikumar2469 10 ай бұрын

So brave. Dealt with this so well albeit a bit late after suffering for so many years and so many children. As women, our children mean the most and their all round development equally important so are the circumstances they live in. You are a hero.

@FrankieKins112 10 ай бұрын

What an inspiring story! Elizabeth is delightful and a wonderful "teller" of her experiences. I'm so happy for her and her children!

@aryan1956 10 ай бұрын

I agree. Forgiveness for actions is one thing. Accountability for actions is something else. If someone is in prison for murder, just because they have repented & been forgiven doesn't mean they get out of their prison sentence.

@tonip9844 10 ай бұрын

what a sweet lady. She really went through alot....and still she has a beautiful attitude.

@gaylepeninger7222 9 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh please do an update with her soon! I love her! The inner strength it takes to do what she did and never waver in faith in the lord is amazing! You go girl! You deserve your happiness! I’m praying for your boys!! ❤️❤️

@danawatts3479 10 ай бұрын

Wow, Elizabeth...what FAITH & COURAGE YOU HAVE. Very inspirational account hete... I enjoyed listening tonYouvas an individual. You have a sweet spirit. Blissings to You

@baie_nuuskierig 10 ай бұрын

Still only with Elizabeth's youth. I am so gratified to note that both parents had a rebellious streak, causing a collection of happy memories. Edit 1. Ye gods. There is no more terrible a thing than a shotgun wedding. The consequences are never-ending. Edit 2. Elizabeth's eloquence and critical thinking - even while in her Circle - is just so admirable and beautiful.

@meghaffer 10 ай бұрын

Elizabeth, you are such a strong woman. I'm so glad you escaped with your kids. That meeting with your ex will have already happened and I hope that the kids are OK. No matter what the courts order, they have your example of standing up for yourself and living life on your own terms to get them through. Sending you so much love ❤

@dannyscandi 9 ай бұрын

Elizabeth is amazing. I can’t imagine doing half of what she has. She is a very impressive person.

@jamiemiesler322 10 ай бұрын

Wow. What a strong woman. I’m so proud of her. Honestly, to go through all of that & to keep her boys with her, keep getting stronger and moving forward & keeping her faith in tact. Just wow!! I love when she said “my mother heart was proud” 💖 Such a lovely lady.

@missamanda2703 10 ай бұрын

The sids story breaks my heart. I was only able to have one son because of ovarian cancer. My 2 biggest fears were him being kidnapped or dying from sids. My anxiety was so awful I put the crib next to our bed. I would wake up almost every hour and make sure he was ok until he was about 1. I still was terrified about him being kidnapped.

@marionchurch3853 10 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤

@phatnsassyinfl9780 10 ай бұрын

😅

@lolabnic 10 ай бұрын

im a nanny for a 3 month old and sids is my biggest fear too. i dont know how parents function, it amazes me!!! babies are so fragile

@CityKanin 9 ай бұрын

In my country the crib is always next to the parents' bed. We have one of the lowest child mortality in the world. Despite our babies taking naps outside in freezing temperatures during the winters.

@InaParas 8 ай бұрын

@@CityKaninIn Romania we do the same.

@KariAnswers 10 ай бұрын

This is such important work. Thank you for your service 💙💫

@sherry8894 9 ай бұрын

What an incredible story! With all that Elizabeth went through,( and I don't know how she did it for so long) I couldn't even imagine going through such total hell ! She is one very strong woman! I'm so happy she got away from that! Most of all I'm happy for her and her children, finally being happy and starting over. I feel bad for the kids having to see their father when they don't want to. I pray that they find a way to get through that .I wish Elizabeth and the children all the happiness in the world. Because they sure deserve it ❤️

@jivingdodo 10 ай бұрын

This is such a harrowing life story and yet this lady is so strong and positive and full of energy. She is now so wise and I just want to hug her. Wishing her all the best for a brighter future x

@K98vd04 10 ай бұрын

Wow!! Her eyes are filled with kindness yet she is such a warrior lioness.❤

@PatriciaGuilfoyle 3 ай бұрын

Saying a little prayer Elizabeth and her boys live safe and happy lives from now on.

@kjcaston18 10 ай бұрын

I live near her and i dont know if she will ever see this, but if she does...I am so proud of her and if she ever needs anything i hope she messages me. She is such a strong women! ❤

@elizabethhilty4802 10 ай бұрын

Thank you I appreciate everyones love and prayers 🙏❤️

@teachercaron 10 ай бұрын

Loved this episode! Elizabeth exudes a strength and grace that only comes from God. Her boldness and faith is lovely! Praying for her sons' first visitation tomorrow 🙏🏻 💙

@lidiagutierrez7983 10 ай бұрын

These groups have gone unchecked for too long, there are too many victims, it is like a country inside another country, with their own laws.

@vivalyann 9 ай бұрын

That made me cry 😭 "god you know i live for my boys and if you let me live...all during a life and death delivery

@Leilaniiiiiii 10 ай бұрын

What a wonderful person Elizabeth is - thank you so much for highlighting her story here in such a compassionate and open way! I'm so glad she is free now - what a brave and strong woman she is; she and her sons deserve all the happiness in the world!

@suzieqmac2.0 10 ай бұрын

Oh Elizabeth you are the strongest woman I've heard of! Thank you so much for sharing your story. Lotsa love to you and your boys.

@cherylhaass6609 10 ай бұрын

She got herself free on my birthday, aug 21. That makes me laugh! Glad to see this lovely lady emerge into the real world free and happy. I wish her continued freedom and self-reliance with her beloved boys.

@mppar3104 Ай бұрын

Elizebeth is AMAZING!! Such a picture of total strength & resilience! You can see the love of Jesus, in her ! I would love to have her for a friend ! God bless you & your precious kids , sister !!!!! ❤❤❤

@dianacryer 10 ай бұрын

Sexual repression within religious communities can causes so many problems. And cloistered religious communities are often plagued with sexual abuse. I am so glad that Elizabeth has wonderful son’s .