Amity Shlaes | Great Society: A New History

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Amity Shlaes is the author of four New York Times bestsellers: The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression, The Forgotten Man Graphic Edition, Coolidge, and The Greedy Hand: How Taxes Drive Americans Crazy. She chairs the board of the Calvin Coolidge Presidential Foundation and the Manhattan Institute's Hayek Book Prize, and serves as a scholar at The King's College. A former member of the Wall Street Journal's editorial board, she published a weekly syndicated column for more than a decade, appearing first in the Financial Times, then in Bloomberg.

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@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 4 жыл бұрын
We keep hearing "unintended consequences," but after decades of the same failures, you have to be willfully ignorant to call the consequences "unintended."
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, I don't think so. It's merely a testament to the awesome and undying power of wishful thinking. All the millennials today touting the benefits of socialism are not evil, power-hungry despots in the making, out to destroy this nation. They are sincere fools who have been convinced of the ideology's merits, partly by other sincere fools, and partly by some selfish opportunists who ARE evil, power-hungry despots in the making. Very, VERY few people are nakedly evil, and most of those who are still somehow manage to convince themselves that what they are doing is actually just what's necessary (in this case for the "greater good"). Even Hitler thought his twisted, pseudoscientific vision of the world was good, and he justified the horrific crimes of his regime in light of that misperceived "greater good." Only a tiny handful of people are out and out nihilists who want to watch the world burn. Socialism (along with the rest of the leftist agenda) SOUNDS so noble to so many people, because it sounds caring, compassionate, equitable, egalitarian. And that superficial appeal makes so many people not look past the surface, to see the greater, deeper truth -- that you CAN'T build a just society on legalized theft; that human beings, who ALWAYS act primarily out of self-interest WON'T be primarily motivated by an abstract greater good, so they'll have to be coerced to go along with the agenda; or that concentrating economic power in the same hands that wield the coercive power of the state establishes a winner-take-all system that creates an irresistible lure for the strongest and most ruthless to seize that power, which is why these "worker's paradises" always end up being run by mass-murderering "presidents for life" like Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, et al.
@juliusebola9389
@juliusebola9389 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hibernicus1968 Maybe they gravitate to socialism because market solutions failed. You tell us that human nature stands in the way of a society based on the greater good, that we have to abide by rational economic incentives and self interest. Then you proceed to turn around and ignore what happens when your system no longer works for a ballooning portion of the population. What are their incentives, I wonder? All of the sudden they're supposed to ignore self interest and languish in poverty and hopeless for the greater good as the capitalist defines it. You said it yourself, socialism is theft. The implication is that the greater good demands we avoid theft, yeah? So which is it? Are we supposed to govern according to the limitation of human nature or are we supposed to govern according to what you define as the greater good?
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliusebola9389 What market solutions have failed, specifically?
@juliusebola9389
@juliusebola9389 4 жыл бұрын
You could make this same criticism of both sides.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliusebola9389 Nope. Sorry, we can't. We have abundant real world examples of market-based economies generating enormous wealth and economic growth, and we have abundant real world examples of socialist economies failing to do so. We have Venezuela, the latest socialist experiment, imploding into a humanitarian crisis before our eyes as I type this. (And please, don't even bother to cite the Nordic countries as an example of socialism "done right," it isn't; they are NOT socialist. They are market economies with a huge welfare state perched on top -- not the same thing at all. Moreover, the Scandinavian countries have downsized their welfare states since the 1990s, because it turns out that's a massive drain on their economies, and they've had to scale it back -- Margaret Thatcher was right: sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.) Bottom line: when asked for specific examples to back up your assertion that socialism appeals to people because of market solutions failing, you either can't or won't provide them. Meanwhile, as I said, you only have to look at the wreckage of one socialist economy after another throughout history, and again, just look southward to Venezuela to see the latest abject failure playing out in real time.
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear some of the scholarship behind some of my gut intuitions about how government intervention destroys community and community support systems. Yes, some towns will always do a better job than others. But it's organic and self-sustaining. And the overall quality of those LOCAL "Tocqueville" institutions rises with the general prosperity, as the people see to actualize higher values.
@Stephen5357
@Stephen5357 4 жыл бұрын
Refer to David Horowitz, who points out from an insiders perspective, that the American Communist party was instructed by the KGB to stop using the words Socialism and Communism. They were instructed to start using the word progressive. We all know how clever they have been at that.
@soapbxprod
@soapbxprod 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Herbert Biberman's grand nephew and Harry Sacher's adoptive grandson. A true red diaper baby like David Horowitz.
@michaelfoye1135
@michaelfoye1135 4 жыл бұрын
@@soapbxprod Ok, but will your children also be red diaper babies? Or have you broken the cycle of coercive collectivism?
@m.burgesszbikowski8049
@m.burgesszbikowski8049 4 жыл бұрын
It was not pointed out to the man from Detroit, FDR did not want his programs to benefit the Black communities. Thus, more or less being left alone, they created their own Movie businesses, baseball teams, small communities with Black doctors and Lawyers, and small businesses. The 1930's in some ways was a blossoming of Black Society. However, the Radio brought the FDR message into all homes, and the propaganda that Black People were benefiting from FDR programs was assumed to be true, by all. Unions began the minimum wage laws at this time to keep Black workers from being hired, with their willingness to work for less! Thank you for the Amity Shales interview.
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm from the government and I'm here to help!
@traddad9172
@traddad9172 4 жыл бұрын
Republican Governor of Maryland Larry Hogan supports bringing thousands of poor immigrants and their children from Muslim Nations to our State. That action goes directly against the prosperity, happiness and safety of our children.
@apriorianvideos9829
@apriorianvideos9829 4 жыл бұрын
The system is diseased. It must be changed. Hard Right Economics Hard Right Economics (Dexterism) is a third economic theory that corrects the issues with both capitalism and communism and produces economic development anywhere simple by using the resources available anywhere, the local human resources. dextarian.com/blog/f/hard-right-economics
@mariojorge9529
@mariojorge9529 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@kirkbowyer3249
@kirkbowyer3249 4 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC BOOK! GOD BLESS AMITY SHLAES
@texaspatriot2841
@texaspatriot2841 4 жыл бұрын
Lyndon Johnson was ALWAYS a liar -- just FYI
@kirkbowyer3249
@kirkbowyer3249 4 жыл бұрын
YA KNOW HOW TO TELL A POLITICIAN IS LYIN' -- THEIR LIPS ARE MOVING(INCLUDING TRUMP).
@kirkbowyer3249
@kirkbowyer3249 4 жыл бұрын
"Keep Cool with Coolidge."
@nancyling8976
@nancyling8976 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best speaker. Really interesting!
@multilingualmob5531
@multilingualmob5531 Жыл бұрын
A wonderful discussion!
@robertyoung1777
@robertyoung1777 Ай бұрын
I would have liked the hear Amity Shlaes talk about: 1. Big money in political elections and how it has destroyed democracy in the USA. 2. Populace anger in America and how it has influenced political leadership. 3. Environmental destruction and sprawl in the USA. 4. Fundamentalist religions causing conflict worldwide. 5. Polarization of the US population into ultra rich and the rest. 6. Culture clash of educated and uneducated in the USA. 7. The risk of nuclear conflict worldwide.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Yes...The 70's, I remember them well. Lost a war, A President quit, gas lines, Gerald Ford, 55 MPH, Jimmy Carter, and (possibly) worst of all Disco.
@braxxian
@braxxian 4 жыл бұрын
Great time for movies however. Star Wars for example.
@Doc_Tar
@Doc_Tar 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, Panama Canal, inflation, Munich, Soviets invade Afghanistan, Iranian revolution and US embassy hostage crisis. What an awful decade for The United States.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 4 жыл бұрын
@@Doc_Tar Woke up to the Desert One debacle, and said..."JESUS CHRIST...Can't We Do ANYTHING right Anymore!!!" the 1970's were not our finest hour.
@sanniepstein4835
@sanniepstein4835 4 жыл бұрын
You misunderstand disco. It wasn't aimed at the ear but at the feet. Music is serving a different function when you're dancing than when you're listening to, say, the B Minor Mass.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 4 жыл бұрын
@@sanniepstein4835 200 years from now people will still be playing Bach's B Minor Mass, and disco will be (at best) a minor footnote in musical history.
@laurac2031
@laurac2031 4 жыл бұрын
Just coming here because I see the comments were turned off at Hoover Institute...gotta grab some popcorn for comments section
@liper13
@liper13 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody know the book she references at about the 29 minute mark about the book she gives to kids from David Beto or David Vito. I can’t find it via google. Anybody?
@mmille10
@mmille10 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting what Shlaes said about the morality of market economics. I remember coming up with a similar analogy when talking about government workers, and how they interact with the public vs. private sector workers, and how they do it. I referred to a scene from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" (1979), where Spock was describing an alien intelligence to Capt. Kirk, called "V'ger." Spock was recovering in sick bay, and Kirk was standing next to his bed. The key part that felt relevant was where Spock grabbed Kirk's hand in a sign of deep friendship, and told him, "This simple feeling is beyond V'ger's comprehension." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lc5ngdBl1JnFeI0.html This isn't a perfect analogy, since I don't typically get a sense of friendship from my interactions with businesses (though I do with a few), but I definitely have felt a difference in how businesses try to help me vs. my dealings with government officials (my experience is the former is more helpful), and I feel a sense of warmth about that.
@JRobbySh
@JRobbySh 4 жыл бұрын
Empathy is a progressive buzzword, but empathy is an intellectual construct, a form without substance. A pale version of what Paul meant by charity.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 3 жыл бұрын
Government knows you’re a captive audience.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 3 жыл бұрын
If contributions to the government were voluntary, they would be a lot nicer to you and the government would be much smaller.
@michaelnickerson2
@michaelnickerson2 4 жыл бұрын
History is about learning cause and effect. So, yes, chronologically.
@kennenhaas1317
@kennenhaas1317 4 жыл бұрын
For the purpose of KZfaq, an interview including the charts would be favored.
@rapier1954
@rapier1954 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of complaining you could do us all a favor and include the charts. Otherwise be grateful someone took the time to put the video on KZfaq.
@ata5855
@ata5855 4 жыл бұрын
Read the book.
@Individual_Lives_Matter
@Individual_Lives_Matter 3 жыл бұрын
I like Matt Ridley’s version of the knowledge problem. Expertise is diffuse amongst individuals. To me this means, the larger the population a central decision making authority has jurisdiction over, the more necessarily arbitrary their decision making must become or at least they start to play favorites. The point is they become idiots and tyrants to some portion of the population. If the area governed is large enough, you can’t even vote with your feet. Minimal boundary conditions (natural rights) and voluntary exchange seems to be the system that most closely mirrors natural selection. If central planners think they can do better than natural selection, they are suffering from a potentially terminal case of hubris.
@kirkbowyer3249
@kirkbowyer3249 4 жыл бұрын
Ecclesiasticus 10:08 A Kingdom is translated from one people to another, because of injustices and wrongs and injuries and divers deceits.
@nathanngumi8467
@nathanngumi8467 3 жыл бұрын
Word.
@anthonysimon4991
@anthonysimon4991 4 жыл бұрын
The more complex and technological our Culture becomes, the less you can expect from the 10% of the population with an IQ of 83 and below and many of them would love to have meaningful work and a little self-respect, and the hyper competent at the top produce such a huge and scalable surplus we can afford to keep people from starving, after that is when the trouble begins.
@kirkbowyer3249
@kirkbowyer3249 4 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS AMERICA---PLEASE!!!!!!
@patrickdoyle2510
@patrickdoyle2510 4 жыл бұрын
Well done for pronouncing "Toronto" like a native Torontonian.
@therealtoni
@therealtoni 4 жыл бұрын
Can't people just ASK THEIR QUESTION??????
@anonosaurus4517
@anonosaurus4517 4 жыл бұрын
Her little quip about doing without God is revealing. I like much about her viewpoint, but you don't get this country without God.
@michaelbast8250
@michaelbast8250 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that made me a little sad. Just like her good friend George Will. This world without God is unbearable.
@jfkdemocrat8465
@jfkdemocrat8465 4 жыл бұрын
Very shallow analysis. Prefer lectures on the Not so “Great Society” by Thomas Sowell. Sowell basis his analysis on actual data from period before, during & current situation to access the actual results & impacts.
@becomingabetterhuman.2994
@becomingabetterhuman.2994 4 жыл бұрын
You Jabroni's turned of the comments off on the marijuana huh, why. I think cuz it's a lie.
@WECantThink
@WECantThink 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that ALL presidents can't walk down the street.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 4 жыл бұрын
I am ignorant on poverty... With many jobs available, is there a logical reason for poverty. I understand there is medical reasons, maybe lack of skills but if needed McDonald is always hiring, drugs, , and there is mental-illness. Is there a social reason, lack-of-williness, or laziness? Why is a healthy person not required to work for a welfare check. I am not being mean, educate me what I am missing without sarcasm.
@stevenlight5006
@stevenlight5006 4 жыл бұрын
If man.does not work neither shall he eat.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenlight5006 , I never heard that. I like it!!
@Tom531Cat
@Tom531Cat 4 жыл бұрын
Ron Dail Yes, logical reason to poverty is someone else looking at you and deciding that you need their help. Better question, which she basically hints at in this video, why is government handling out money towards healthy people? The answer is because certain people are over achievers in “helping” others at the cost of the other person’s self-respect. Giving money is easy, dealing with a person is hard.
@JRobbySh
@JRobbySh 4 жыл бұрын
I wish she were more articulate. But one very, very important point she makes is that the fiscal crunch that make impossible a victory in Vietnam was caused by the miscalculation of the costs of the Great Society programs and the compounded failures of those who managed those programs. If Johnson had not gone into Vietnam, an equal amount of money could still have been spent and have done as much damage because it was an effort to create utopia. Funneling money into a black hole.
@stevebuscemislefteye9967
@stevebuscemislefteye9967 4 жыл бұрын
Botingy
@OhioDave1345
@OhioDave1345 4 жыл бұрын
Talk slower!!!!
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Yes...The 70's, I remember them well. Lost a war, A President quit, gas lines, Gerald Ford, 55 MPH, Jimmy Carter, and (possibly) worst of all Disco.
@williamf.buckleyjr3227
@williamf.buckleyjr3227 4 жыл бұрын
The popular music industry should NEVER, EVER be forgiven for disco.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamf.buckleyjr3227 Once or twice a year I type into You Tube top ten songs. Pop music...Its gotten worse!
@markshabert5865
@markshabert5865 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenwiederholt7000 disco was a mental disorder
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 4 жыл бұрын
@@markshabert5865 If memory serve Dr. Johnny Fever called it The Abomination known as disco.
@markshabert5865
@markshabert5865 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenwiederholt7000 I think your right ,wkrp in cinci
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