Ammonia looks like it's the dream fuel for hydrogen fuel cells, apparently no harmful wastes released! I'd be more interested in knowing how they got the hydrogen to separate from the nitrogen, and what if the ammonia container started to leak?
@marklar533 жыл бұрын
Im also curious about the production process. Just an uneducated speculation, but I think there could be some blowback, as far as wastes, on that end of things.
@CarLoverPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@marklar53 apparently the idea is to use the waste products for farming and fertilization so there’s no waste at all.
@jaehaerys91943 жыл бұрын
this animation is absolutely mind blowing...
@julianchamberlain53992 жыл бұрын
Music spoils it though
@richardbiker4 жыл бұрын
music of background so loud
@colinnewton72913 жыл бұрын
Too loud.
@340wbymag3 жыл бұрын
Ammonia is by far the best refrigerant in use today, but I think it is exceptionally bad as a fuel source. It is energy-intensive to create ammonia to begin with. In this particular case with fuel cells a second process must be utilized to break that ammonia down to its components again before it can be used as a fuel, which equates to even higher costs. When ammonia is burned as a fuel in a combustion engine the exhaust stinks and it is dirty too. Ammonia causes metal to become brittle as well, but the biggest detriment to its use is that people freak out when they smell ammonia, even at extremely low concentrations. I like ammonia and worked with it more than twenty years, but believe it will always have limited uses.
@bobcheng51792 жыл бұрын
Ammonia cracks copper alloys, but is harmless to steel and most other metals.
@nesrinebenarab99582 жыл бұрын
Merci pour ces informations Est-ce que vous avez une idée sur le traitement de déchets lors de procédés de fabrication de l'ammoniac?? Thank you
@340wbymag2 жыл бұрын
@@nesrinebenarab9958 No. I am sorry. I do not.
@williamm80692 жыл бұрын
Ocean going ships
@CarLoverPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@nesrinebenarab9958 they would use the waste products for farming and fertilizer.
@killua93693 жыл бұрын
Omg! This is truly the most detailed and clear video with perfect animation, that is insane
@harshkatiyar88844 жыл бұрын
Yes, Sir I Also Want To Know What Was the Catalyst
@YouMockMe4 жыл бұрын
Love
@harshkatiyar88844 жыл бұрын
@@YouMockMe for whom?
@antonios73534 жыл бұрын
It's Ruthenium
@user-qn3hx6kl1v3 жыл бұрын
@@antonios7353 how is its availability
@7019832 күн бұрын
@0:30: ammonia isn't a liquid fuel, but a gas at normal (atmospheric) pressure and temperature. But yes, unlike hydrogen, it can be kept liquid at modest pressures or temperatures: With 7.5 bar at 20°C, or with minus 33°C at atmospheric pressure (1 bar).
@Leopold51003 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT
@wilfriedschuler379614 күн бұрын
A useless stupid idea. Just to make the stupids dream.
@SirGregoryFamilyYouTube3 ай бұрын
I hope it's a game-changer, because all the other energy contenders are game-changers.
@davidstrachan47183 жыл бұрын
"The LIGHTER nitrogen atoms flow upwards and are vented..." Is he correct? I thought hydrogen lighter.
@Zeratul1873 жыл бұрын
In liquid form
@madsam03203 жыл бұрын
@@Zeratul187 no, unlike ammonia, pure hydrogen and nitrogen are much harder to liquify, needs extremely high pressure and low temperature. The nitrogen gas are much heavier than H2, they should be vented below the containment. That mistake is so elementary.
@silverismoney2 жыл бұрын
Is this available for off-grid residential use? Like instead of a generator / propane tanks ?
@hugomt9045 Жыл бұрын
lol no anhydrous ammonia is super dangerous they wont even sell it to you without a license and regular inspection of facilities this is more for industrial or off limits stuff like the application in the video
@julianchamberlain53992 жыл бұрын
Best to turn the sound off and subtitles on.
@goncaloaguiar4 жыл бұрын
What is the efficiency of this method? For example, assuming I start with 100 kWh of electrical energy, I use this energy to produce a certain amount of hydrogen from the electrolysis of water, and then hydrogen is combined with nitrogen to form ammonia, how much energy is left after the process that is described by the video?
@lambdasun45203 жыл бұрын
you're spot on, but I actually think they produce hydrogen from methane.
@SurajKumar-vb1yu2 жыл бұрын
30%, efficiency
@goncaloaguiar2 жыл бұрын
@@SurajKumar-vb1yu Not great...
@proxyinitiative2 жыл бұрын
People have been getting ammonia from piss for thousands of years.
@markclark4154 Жыл бұрын
“Currently, the round-trip efficiency of liquid ammonia is 11-19%, which is similar to the values of liquid hydrogen of 9-22%” source The Chemical engineer.
@scotttoner92312 жыл бұрын
1:30 uh…. “… the lighter Nitrogen atoms flow upward and vent….” ???
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui20522 жыл бұрын
GenCell Ltd What is the catalyst separator made of ?
@user-qq5td4lo9s24 күн бұрын
MOST likely platinum and iridium. LEAST abundant and EXPENSIVE....
@sridhardabu3 жыл бұрын
No answers on what to do with captured carbon while creating blue ammonia
@Nayan-ic3ig3 жыл бұрын
Dude just came from other video about blue ammonia. Japan has been importing blue ammonia from saudi arabia aramco. They are going to be doing something on it soon.
@sridhardabu3 жыл бұрын
@@Nayan-ic3ig only answer to pollution and problems is decrease in population and leading humble life
@QarthCEO3 жыл бұрын
@@sridhardabu You first.
@sridhardabu3 жыл бұрын
@@QarthCEO China had the answer to world's problems, but it failed for being biased
@hellohello89623 жыл бұрын
Is it needless to purify the hydrogen/nitrogen mixture? If so, it will be a better solution to carry hydrogen than the organic ones.
@simetric65513 жыл бұрын
Making pure hydrogen is more expensive
@JungleJargon3 жыл бұрын
Where's the residential model? LOL! : )
@syedahamed87343 ай бұрын
What type of fuel cell do u use
@joedau98045 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff, but what are the economics here? Factoring in the total cost of the system vs the lifetime hours (would assume these things aren't going to last 40,000 hours) then what is the added cost per kWh? For instance with 5kw output, if the system costs $50k more than a diesel generator and it's good for 10,000 hours before needing a new one then that's adding $1 per Kwh over diesel. Great for the environment but in terms of initial cost outlay and lifetime hours what are we talking here? Would be fantastic if the math looked promising!
@FinWizTube5 жыл бұрын
The more detailed TCO modelling is usually required for particular cases, but for mission-critical operations (construction, remote off-grid permanent or temporary telco sites, military etc.) this would do the trick. Ammonia and hydrogen, in particular, won't solve all energy problems but they will provide quite workable and, as we progress with the scale, economic alternative to diesel generators or similar.
@petevenuti73553 жыл бұрын
Feel free to send me a small demo unit to review, I'd be happy to make a video on it.
@terenceiutzi40033 жыл бұрын
Then why was it outlawed as a refrigerant ten years ago? It is banned as a none CFC refrigerant but it is good to contain hydrogen and flood into our atmospher? Sounds just like every other environmental ruling to me!
@drumstick-marblebag3 жыл бұрын
What was the fluid in the tank to begin with? How will it get replenished, once it is used up?
@lambdasun45203 жыл бұрын
you buy it from the industrial plant that is synthetizing it from methane, nitrogen and / or hydrogen from water split electrolysis. and you keep buying it.
@travelersworldcafellc7036 Жыл бұрын
Got any advice on Fleebs and Plubus'?
@aggabus4 жыл бұрын
I see my comiz shadban. Say nitr heavier than h
@hardwaresoftware31314 жыл бұрын
Sir, I want to know what is the catalyst used to separate hydrogen from Ammonia
@hardwaresoftware31314 жыл бұрын
and how to separate hydrogen from a mixture of hydrogen and nitrogen
@galwitprifor0014 жыл бұрын
@@hardwaresoftware3131 that bits easy, heat the liquid. Le chatelier's principle will allow the reverse reaction of NH3 ->N2 + H2 to happen. But as you note, I would like to know which catalyst they are using.
Does that mean the energy of the in-statu-nascendi Nitrogen is just thrown away? Ammonia should deliver over 1200 kJ/kg of energy with 4 NH₃ + 3 O₂ → 2 N₂ + 6 H₂O(g) Is there further research being carried out?
@lambdasun45203 жыл бұрын
Yeah what about the energy required to produce the ammonia from hydrogen, methane and nitrogen through the Haber-Bosch process? 421 thumbs up lol
@CarLoverPhotography Жыл бұрын
It creates its own electricity because it can be used to make electricity
@terenceiutzi40033 жыл бұрын
It didn't work for GM fifty years ago why do you think it will work ? The laws of physics have not changed!
@sagebias22514 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. Do you have any prototypes?
@hardwaresoftware31314 жыл бұрын
Yes they have working units
@mookfaru8353 жыл бұрын
its got 40% of the energy of gasoline
@Varue3 жыл бұрын
@@mookfaru835 In case you mean this in a negative way, I wanted to clear up why this is actually fine; it may have 40% the energy of gasoline, but it allows us to produce electricity, which can be used much more efficiently for work than gasoline can. Gasoline can only be converted to work at around 35% efficiency at most right now in a car engine, while the cracked ammonia (Hydrogen) can be converted to electricity quite efficiently, over 90%. This makes ammonia viable for use as an alternative fuel equivalent to gasoline but with the benefits you get out of electric motors, like regenerative braking and lower cooling drag. Also, converting from multi-fossil fuel sources (natural gas, coal, oil, gasoline, diesel) to just ammonia and electricity gives you much more reliable infrastructure as the specialization leads to efficiency improvements in logistics, construction, maintenance, management, and science/engineering. Hope this helps.
@prachayaputtapanasub1113 Жыл бұрын
My question is "Can it cause Nitrous oxide from the process? Nitrous oxide can cause global warming more than CO2 300 times!!! 😰😰I know that in the ideal fuel cell system it's work!!However, Have you tested with old system that can possible leak? Do O2 could possible mix and cause Nitrous oxide?
@7019832 күн бұрын
PEM-fuel cells don't produce NOx or N2O. NOx and N2O are problems, when you combust ammonia in internal combustion engines, but not with low-temperature fuel cells.
@goldenbrown36393 жыл бұрын
Why can't the same be done with water? 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen?
@goldenbrown36393 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG So, are you not doing the same in NH3? NH3 comes with a heavy cost while H2O is free to negligible cost...
@theacme33 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG you guys dont talk the same language xD. You talk about pure hydrogen. The other guy asks about water. As seen in the video, when you got hydrogen and oxygen you can combine them which will generate energy and water (h2o). If you now want to split the water again, you need to input the same (or more) energy that you just generated to get pure hydrogen and pure oxygen. That's why you can't use water for this process. It's the "low energy end product" not the "high energy start product".
@levi49793 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG H2 is highly flammable in only certain environments. You can shoot a H2 tank and not have any of it burn let alone explode.
@levi49793 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG whilst I agree that using ammonia is superior in principle, the safety of it is somewhat disputable. Ammonia is irritating with high concentration exposure leading to skin and organ damage or even death. So safety needs to be thoroughly considered in situations where the container might be compromised.
@340wbymag3 жыл бұрын
@@levi4979 You can also vent a small amount and have it flash from static electricity or some unseen source. If you are burning pure hydrogen you probably wouldn't even see the flame, but you'll sure feel the heat.
@nicolasroux-fouillet37752 жыл бұрын
And how did you get Ammonia? => From Methan... So it is Methan => Ammonia => Hydrogen... And H2 in H2/H20 cell.engines usually comes directly to Methan... So only for storage and transportation is Ammonia better, because otherwise, it is still not a "green" solution as it still rely on fossil energy source
@SCComega2 жыл бұрын
That is the most common method, yes, however it is possible to produce through multiple catalytic processes powered off green electrical sources. The base components are just hydrogen and nitrogen, after all.
@flaviopalmiro2 жыл бұрын
have a search about green ammonia
@anisraiss4 жыл бұрын
When is the IPO?
@harshkatiyar88844 жыл бұрын
Input Process Output?
@levi49793 жыл бұрын
@@harshkatiyar8884 Initial Public Offering: when can we buy the stock.
@harshkatiyar88843 жыл бұрын
Ya I also want to buy the stock.
@goranpalsson8376 ай бұрын
Why playing this loud noise in the background while the narrator speakes, it's wery disturbing, i stop viewing after a minute 😠😡👿
The other day I objected against nitrogen lighter than hydrogen and gravitational separation of the two species. But now I realize why there are so few comments here. You remove those that are not to your liking. This makes it less likely that I will invest in your operation.
@VeritasPraevalebit5 жыл бұрын
You sent me a message that maybe I posted on the wrong site. Maybe so, in that case please forgive me for being rude. Still, there are two problems here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtiUd9di2NHNYX0.html
@sagebias22514 жыл бұрын
@@VeritasPraevalebit maybe this comment thread should be removed and reposted with an edit.
@VeritasPraevalebit4 жыл бұрын
@@sagebias2251 For my part GenCell is free to to whatever they want with my comment. I am still certain that their description of the process is pure fantasy. So I predict that you will have to wait indefinitely for a prototype to materialize.
@VeritasPraevalebit4 жыл бұрын
But, that said, I am a proponent for ammonia as a vehicle for transport and storage of sunshine energy.
@aggabus4 жыл бұрын
Good comi z
@robinhyperlord90534 жыл бұрын
5kw per hour powers a fucking hospital!?
@doughartmann92724 жыл бұрын
Stack to make as much power as needed.
@pallabsamanta38842 жыл бұрын
Lol
@aggabus4 жыл бұрын
One tank year 5k 500k 3day
@napalonzo9336 ай бұрын
piss generator 😆
@SANYISZTAL3 жыл бұрын
🐈⬛
@alberti.23344 жыл бұрын
Hahaha GenCell scammer pioneer 😂 GenCell the most strategic scammer on the planet, came back to life with another project of scamming 🤣 Give them a medal of honor for scamming please 😁