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Ammonia: The Next Big Thing in Energy Production - GenCell

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@SauvikRoy
@SauvikRoy 3 жыл бұрын
Ammonia looks like it's the dream fuel for hydrogen fuel cells, apparently no harmful wastes released! I'd be more interested in knowing how they got the hydrogen to separate from the nitrogen, and what if the ammonia container started to leak?
@marklar53
@marklar53 3 жыл бұрын
Im also curious about the production process. Just an uneducated speculation, but I think there could be some blowback, as far as wastes, on that end of things.
@CarLoverPhotography
@CarLoverPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@marklar53 apparently the idea is to use the waste products for farming and fertilization so there’s no waste at all.
@jaehaerys9194
@jaehaerys9194 3 жыл бұрын
this animation is absolutely mind blowing...
@julianchamberlain5399
@julianchamberlain5399 2 жыл бұрын
Music spoils it though
@richardbiker
@richardbiker 4 жыл бұрын
music of background so loud
@colinnewton7291
@colinnewton7291 3 жыл бұрын
Too loud.
@340wbymag
@340wbymag 3 жыл бұрын
Ammonia is by far the best refrigerant in use today, but I think it is exceptionally bad as a fuel source. It is energy-intensive to create ammonia to begin with. In this particular case with fuel cells a second process must be utilized to break that ammonia down to its components again before it can be used as a fuel, which equates to even higher costs. When ammonia is burned as a fuel in a combustion engine the exhaust stinks and it is dirty too. Ammonia causes metal to become brittle as well, but the biggest detriment to its use is that people freak out when they smell ammonia, even at extremely low concentrations. I like ammonia and worked with it more than twenty years, but believe it will always have limited uses.
@bobcheng5179
@bobcheng5179 2 жыл бұрын
Ammonia cracks copper alloys, but is harmless to steel and most other metals.
@nesrinebenarab9958
@nesrinebenarab9958 2 жыл бұрын
Merci pour ces informations Est-ce que vous avez une idée sur le traitement de déchets lors de procédés de fabrication de l'ammoniac?? Thank you
@340wbymag
@340wbymag 2 жыл бұрын
@@nesrinebenarab9958 No. I am sorry. I do not.
@williamm8069
@williamm8069 2 жыл бұрын
Ocean going ships
@CarLoverPhotography
@CarLoverPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@nesrinebenarab9958 they would use the waste products for farming and fertilizer.
@killua9369
@killua9369 3 жыл бұрын
Omg! This is truly the most detailed and clear video with perfect animation, that is insane
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Sir I Also Want To Know What Was the Catalyst
@YouMockMe
@YouMockMe 4 жыл бұрын
Love
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 4 жыл бұрын
@@YouMockMe for whom?
@antonios7353
@antonios7353 4 жыл бұрын
It's Ruthenium
@user-qn3hx6kl1v
@user-qn3hx6kl1v 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonios7353 how is its availability
@701983
@701983 2 күн бұрын
@0:30: ammonia isn't a liquid fuel, but a gas at normal (atmospheric) pressure and temperature. But yes, unlike hydrogen, it can be kept liquid at modest pressures or temperatures: With 7.5 bar at 20°C, or with minus 33°C at atmospheric pressure (1 bar).
@Leopold5100
@Leopold5100 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT
@wilfriedschuler3796
@wilfriedschuler3796 14 күн бұрын
A useless stupid idea. Just to make the stupids dream.
@SirGregoryFamilyYouTube
@SirGregoryFamilyYouTube 3 ай бұрын
I hope it's a game-changer, because all the other energy contenders are game-changers.
@davidstrachan4718
@davidstrachan4718 3 жыл бұрын
"The LIGHTER nitrogen atoms flow upwards and are vented..." Is he correct? I thought hydrogen lighter.
@Zeratul187
@Zeratul187 3 жыл бұрын
In liquid form
@madsam0320
@madsam0320 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zeratul187 no, unlike ammonia, pure hydrogen and nitrogen are much harder to liquify, needs extremely high pressure and low temperature. The nitrogen gas are much heavier than H2, they should be vented below the containment. That mistake is so elementary.
@silverismoney
@silverismoney 2 жыл бұрын
Is this available for off-grid residential use? Like instead of a generator / propane tanks ?
@hugomt9045
@hugomt9045 Жыл бұрын
lol no anhydrous ammonia is super dangerous they wont even sell it to you without a license and regular inspection of facilities this is more for industrial or off limits stuff like the application in the video
@julianchamberlain5399
@julianchamberlain5399 2 жыл бұрын
Best to turn the sound off and subtitles on.
@goncaloaguiar
@goncaloaguiar 4 жыл бұрын
What is the efficiency of this method? For example, assuming I start with 100 kWh of electrical energy, I use this energy to produce a certain amount of hydrogen from the electrolysis of water, and then hydrogen is combined with nitrogen to form ammonia, how much energy is left after the process that is described by the video?
@lambdasun4520
@lambdasun4520 3 жыл бұрын
you're spot on, but I actually think they produce hydrogen from methane.
@SurajKumar-vb1yu
@SurajKumar-vb1yu 2 жыл бұрын
30%, efficiency
@goncaloaguiar
@goncaloaguiar 2 жыл бұрын
@@SurajKumar-vb1yu Not great...
@proxyinitiative
@proxyinitiative 2 жыл бұрын
People have been getting ammonia from piss for thousands of years.
@markclark4154
@markclark4154 Жыл бұрын
“Currently, the round-trip efficiency of liquid ammonia is 11-19%, which is similar to the values of liquid hydrogen of 9-22%” source The Chemical engineer.
@scotttoner9231
@scotttoner9231 2 жыл бұрын
1:30 uh…. “… the lighter Nitrogen atoms flow upward and vent….” ???
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052 2 жыл бұрын
GenCell Ltd What is the catalyst separator made of ?
@user-qq5td4lo9s
@user-qq5td4lo9s 24 күн бұрын
MOST likely platinum and iridium. LEAST abundant and EXPENSIVE....
@sridhardabu
@sridhardabu 3 жыл бұрын
No answers on what to do with captured carbon while creating blue ammonia
@Nayan-ic3ig
@Nayan-ic3ig 3 жыл бұрын
Dude just came from other video about blue ammonia. Japan has been importing blue ammonia from saudi arabia aramco. They are going to be doing something on it soon.
@sridhardabu
@sridhardabu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nayan-ic3ig only answer to pollution and problems is decrease in population and leading humble life
@QarthCEO
@QarthCEO 3 жыл бұрын
@@sridhardabu You first.
@sridhardabu
@sridhardabu 3 жыл бұрын
@@QarthCEO China had the answer to world's problems, but it failed for being biased
@hellohello8962
@hellohello8962 3 жыл бұрын
Is it needless to purify the hydrogen/nitrogen mixture? If so, it will be a better solution to carry hydrogen than the organic ones.
@simetric6551
@simetric6551 3 жыл бұрын
Making pure hydrogen is more expensive
@JungleJargon
@JungleJargon 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the residential model? LOL! : )
@syedahamed8734
@syedahamed8734 3 ай бұрын
What type of fuel cell do u use
@joedau9804
@joedau9804 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff, but what are the economics here? Factoring in the total cost of the system vs the lifetime hours (would assume these things aren't going to last 40,000 hours) then what is the added cost per kWh? For instance with 5kw output, if the system costs $50k more than a diesel generator and it's good for 10,000 hours before needing a new one then that's adding $1 per Kwh over diesel. Great for the environment but in terms of initial cost outlay and lifetime hours what are we talking here? Would be fantastic if the math looked promising!
@FinWizTube
@FinWizTube 5 жыл бұрын
The more detailed TCO modelling is usually required for particular cases, but for mission-critical operations (construction, remote off-grid permanent or temporary telco sites, military etc.) this would do the trick. Ammonia and hydrogen, in particular, won't solve all energy problems but they will provide quite workable and, as we progress with the scale, economic alternative to diesel generators or similar.
@petevenuti7355
@petevenuti7355 3 жыл бұрын
Feel free to send me a small demo unit to review, I'd be happy to make a video on it.
@terenceiutzi4003
@terenceiutzi4003 3 жыл бұрын
Then why was it outlawed as a refrigerant ten years ago? It is banned as a none CFC refrigerant but it is good to contain hydrogen and flood into our atmospher? Sounds just like every other environmental ruling to me!
@drumstick-marblebag
@drumstick-marblebag 3 жыл бұрын
What was the fluid in the tank to begin with? How will it get replenished, once it is used up?
@lambdasun4520
@lambdasun4520 3 жыл бұрын
you buy it from the industrial plant that is synthetizing it from methane, nitrogen and / or hydrogen from water split electrolysis. and you keep buying it.
@travelersworldcafellc7036
@travelersworldcafellc7036 Жыл бұрын
Got any advice on Fleebs and Plubus'?
@aggabus
@aggabus 4 жыл бұрын
I see my comiz shadban. Say nitr heavier than h
@hardwaresoftware3131
@hardwaresoftware3131 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, I want to know what is the catalyst used to separate hydrogen from Ammonia
@hardwaresoftware3131
@hardwaresoftware3131 4 жыл бұрын
and how to separate hydrogen from a mixture of hydrogen and nitrogen
@galwitprifor001
@galwitprifor001 4 жыл бұрын
@@hardwaresoftware3131 that bits easy, heat the liquid. Le chatelier's principle will allow the reverse reaction of NH3 ->N2 + H2 to happen. But as you note, I would like to know which catalyst they are using.
@hardwaresoftware3131
@hardwaresoftware3131 4 жыл бұрын
@@galwitprifor001 thanks
@sir.burbonburg7008
@sir.burbonburg7008 4 жыл бұрын
Ruthenium kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p6ulp5qgksiZmI0.html
@jasonhenn7345
@jasonhenn7345 2 жыл бұрын
@@hardwaresoftware3131 totally 😎
@widar28
@widar28 Ай бұрын
Does that mean the energy of the in-statu-nascendi Nitrogen is just thrown away? Ammonia should deliver over 1200 kJ/kg of energy with 4 NH₃ + 3 O₂ → 2 N₂ + 6 H₂O(g) Is there further research being carried out?
@lambdasun4520
@lambdasun4520 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what about the energy required to produce the ammonia from hydrogen, methane and nitrogen through the Haber-Bosch process? 421 thumbs up lol
@CarLoverPhotography
@CarLoverPhotography Жыл бұрын
It creates its own electricity because it can be used to make electricity
@terenceiutzi4003
@terenceiutzi4003 3 жыл бұрын
It didn't work for GM fifty years ago why do you think it will work ? The laws of physics have not changed!
@sagebias2251
@sagebias2251 4 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. Do you have any prototypes?
@hardwaresoftware3131
@hardwaresoftware3131 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they have working units
@mookfaru835
@mookfaru835 3 жыл бұрын
its got 40% of the energy of gasoline
@Varue
@Varue 3 жыл бұрын
@@mookfaru835 In case you mean this in a negative way, I wanted to clear up why this is actually fine; it may have 40% the energy of gasoline, but it allows us to produce electricity, which can be used much more efficiently for work than gasoline can. Gasoline can only be converted to work at around 35% efficiency at most right now in a car engine, while the cracked ammonia (Hydrogen) can be converted to electricity quite efficiently, over 90%. This makes ammonia viable for use as an alternative fuel equivalent to gasoline but with the benefits you get out of electric motors, like regenerative braking and lower cooling drag. Also, converting from multi-fossil fuel sources (natural gas, coal, oil, gasoline, diesel) to just ammonia and electricity gives you much more reliable infrastructure as the specialization leads to efficiency improvements in logistics, construction, maintenance, management, and science/engineering. Hope this helps.
@prachayaputtapanasub1113
@prachayaputtapanasub1113 Жыл бұрын
My question is "Can it cause Nitrous oxide from the process? Nitrous oxide can cause global warming more than CO2 300 times!!! 😰😰I know that in the ideal fuel cell system it's work!!However, Have you tested with old system that can possible leak? Do O2 could possible mix and cause Nitrous oxide?
@701983
@701983 2 күн бұрын
PEM-fuel cells don't produce NOx or N2O. NOx and N2O are problems, when you combust ammonia in internal combustion engines, but not with low-temperature fuel cells.
@goldenbrown3639
@goldenbrown3639 3 жыл бұрын
Why can't the same be done with water? 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen?
@goldenbrown3639
@goldenbrown3639 3 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG So, are you not doing the same in NH3? NH3 comes with a heavy cost while H2O is free to negligible cost...
@theacme3
@theacme3 3 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG you guys dont talk the same language xD. You talk about pure hydrogen. The other guy asks about water. As seen in the video, when you got hydrogen and oxygen you can combine them which will generate energy and water (h2o). If you now want to split the water again, you need to input the same (or more) energy that you just generated to get pure hydrogen and pure oxygen. That's why you can't use water for this process. It's the "low energy end product" not the "high energy start product".
@levi4979
@levi4979 3 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG H2 is highly flammable in only certain environments. You can shoot a H2 tank and not have any of it burn let alone explode.
@levi4979
@levi4979 3 жыл бұрын
@OMG OMG whilst I agree that using ammonia is superior in principle, the safety of it is somewhat disputable. Ammonia is irritating with high concentration exposure leading to skin and organ damage or even death. So safety needs to be thoroughly considered in situations where the container might be compromised.
@340wbymag
@340wbymag 3 жыл бұрын
@@levi4979 You can also vent a small amount and have it flash from static electricity or some unseen source. If you are burning pure hydrogen you probably wouldn't even see the flame, but you'll sure feel the heat.
@nicolasroux-fouillet3775
@nicolasroux-fouillet3775 2 жыл бұрын
And how did you get Ammonia? => From Methan... So it is Methan => Ammonia => Hydrogen... And H2 in H2/H20 cell.engines usually comes directly to Methan... So only for storage and transportation is Ammonia better, because otherwise, it is still not a "green" solution as it still rely on fossil energy source
@SCComega
@SCComega 2 жыл бұрын
That is the most common method, yes, however it is possible to produce through multiple catalytic processes powered off green electrical sources. The base components are just hydrogen and nitrogen, after all.
@flaviopalmiro
@flaviopalmiro 2 жыл бұрын
have a search about green ammonia
@anisraiss
@anisraiss 4 жыл бұрын
When is the IPO?
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 4 жыл бұрын
Input Process Output?
@levi4979
@levi4979 3 жыл бұрын
@@harshkatiyar8884 Initial Public Offering: when can we buy the stock.
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I also want to buy the stock.
@goranpalsson837
@goranpalsson837 6 ай бұрын
Why playing this loud noise in the background while the narrator speakes, it's wery disturbing, i stop viewing after a minute 😠😡👿
@naved1630
@naved1630 27 күн бұрын
😊😊😊😊
@naved1630
@naved1630 27 күн бұрын
😊😊😊
@naved1630
@naved1630 27 күн бұрын
😅😊😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@michelbisson6645
@michelbisson6645 Жыл бұрын
Insanely.inefficient
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 4 жыл бұрын
can you make ammonia from pee?
@YouMockMe
@YouMockMe 4 жыл бұрын
Search: "Make Ammonium Nitrate Nature's Way" (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8h3aJB-tJnJlac.html)
@ericmarriott5274
@ericmarriott5274 3 жыл бұрын
fish and chickens do for sure
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 3 жыл бұрын
yes!!
@VeritasPraevalebit
@VeritasPraevalebit 5 жыл бұрын
The other day I objected against nitrogen lighter than hydrogen and gravitational separation of the two species. But now I realize why there are so few comments here. You remove those that are not to your liking. This makes it less likely that I will invest in your operation.
@VeritasPraevalebit
@VeritasPraevalebit 5 жыл бұрын
You sent me a message that maybe I posted on the wrong site. Maybe so, in that case please forgive me for being rude. Still, there are two problems here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtiUd9di2NHNYX0.html
@sagebias2251
@sagebias2251 4 жыл бұрын
@@VeritasPraevalebit maybe this comment thread should be removed and reposted with an edit.
@VeritasPraevalebit
@VeritasPraevalebit 4 жыл бұрын
@@sagebias2251 For my part GenCell is free to to whatever they want with my comment. I am still certain that their description of the process is pure fantasy. So I predict that you will have to wait indefinitely for a prototype to materialize.
@VeritasPraevalebit
@VeritasPraevalebit 4 жыл бұрын
But, that said, I am a proponent for ammonia as a vehicle for transport and storage of sunshine energy.
@aggabus
@aggabus 4 жыл бұрын
Good comi z
@robinhyperlord9053
@robinhyperlord9053 4 жыл бұрын
5kw per hour powers a fucking hospital!?
@doughartmann9272
@doughartmann9272 4 жыл бұрын
Stack to make as much power as needed.
@pallabsamanta3884
@pallabsamanta3884 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@aggabus
@aggabus 4 жыл бұрын
One tank year 5k 500k 3day
@napalonzo933
@napalonzo933 6 ай бұрын
piss generator 😆
@SANYISZTAL
@SANYISZTAL 3 жыл бұрын
🐈‍⬛
@alberti.2334
@alberti.2334 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha GenCell scammer pioneer 😂 GenCell the most strategic scammer on the planet, came back to life with another project of scamming 🤣 Give them a medal of honor for scamming please 😁
@harshkatiyar8884
@harshkatiyar8884 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Please explain clearly!!
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