Amtrak Acela Express 150 MPH Revenue Service Debut on The NEC @ Princeton Junction, NJ (5/31/22)

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On Saturday, 5/28/22, Amtrak finally upgraded the stretch of track on the Northeast Corridor through Princeton Junction for 150 mph operations. Therefore, Tuesday, 5/31/22, marks the first weekday of 150 mph Acelas in New Jersey. Enjoy =)
Speed calculations:
OG Acela trainset = 663 feet
150 mph = 220 feet per second
663 / 220 = ~3 seconds
Therefore, if the Acela trainset passes a fixed point in the frame in 3 seconds, it is traveling at around 150 mph. At 135 mph, it takes the same trainset 3.3 seconds to pass a fixed point.
Full Princeton Junction video: • Amtrak High Speed 125 ...

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@GenesisSanctuary
@GenesisSanctuary 2 жыл бұрын
And just like that, Princeton Junction has become more appealing than ever before. This has definitely been a long time coming, and it's amazing to see. I noticed that the Acela at 1:43 is running Avelia-style.
@piemadd
@piemadd 2 жыл бұрын
What is Avelia style?
@DevonMopiedmont1143
@DevonMopiedmont1143 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I didn't know that was allowed on the old sets
@MSRTA_Productions
@MSRTA_Productions 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the pantograph burnt out
@evangouldtransit
@evangouldtransit 2 жыл бұрын
@@piemadd only one pantograph is up.
@qazisnotapeopleperson7167
@qazisnotapeopleperson7167 2 жыл бұрын
@@piemadd Running with only one pantograph.
@nexusoflife
@nexusoflife 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if the entire United States had access to trains this fast!
@SomeRamdomAhole
@SomeRamdomAhole Жыл бұрын
If only we stop voting for people that are bought by the auto industry…
@mr.conductorfromsts4204
@mr.conductorfromsts4204 2 жыл бұрын
This is the moment that we railfans were waiting for. Amtrak Acela Express’s Upgrade up to 150 MPH! Express Coming Through. 🚄💨
@isaiahwiley396
@isaiahwiley396 2 жыл бұрын
this is Isaiah Wiley from myrtle Beach south Carolina saying that we will miss the Amtrak acela trains that were made in 2000 because this is the best KZfaq video ever seeing them in 150 mph and they were my favorite train because I rode on them when I was younger.
@babo0n240
@babo0n240 2 жыл бұрын
Great seeing stuff like this finally coming to fruition, yay for HSR!
@jayydarailfaner549
@jayydarailfaner549 2 жыл бұрын
its about god dam time, in 2012 the crew were doing Acela Express test runs up to 165mph, i wish Amtrak would upgrade Amfleets to 135mph, they are capable of running that speed
@erikgustafson1410
@erikgustafson1410 2 жыл бұрын
No they're not. They have never been able to achieve 135 and maintain an acceptable level of comfort. They weren't designed for 135 mph service either.
@qazisnotapeopleperson7167
@qazisnotapeopleperson7167 2 жыл бұрын
Even the new coaches amtrak is getting from Siemens will only run at 125. Anything higher would need tilting probably.
@thetrainguy1
@thetrainguy1 2 жыл бұрын
The FRA has a limit on their speed. Tier 1 trains maximum speed is 125mph.
@MetroGaming75
@MetroGaming75 2 жыл бұрын
They hit 170 mph too In 2012
@philipnasadowski1060
@philipnasadowski1060 2 жыл бұрын
The Pioneer III truck sucks at higher speeds. Even Amtrak has admitted it’s rough on track
@trainluvr
@trainluvr 2 жыл бұрын
So I went to Baltimore on 6-1-22 for a day trip, and when I went to catch the Palmetto home, it was late and ended up arriving just after the southbound Vermonter. They announced the Palmetto but not the Vermonter. I get on an arriving train which "felt" like it was going north but really was going south. See Baltimore Penn is on a diagonal alignment so it is easy to get turned around. I even see the Vermonter on the variable message board, but thought it was a mistake, I'm a railfan and I don't need no stinking signs to tell ME what to do. So I get on the train and it sits for about ten minutes. Meanwhile I missed all the action and signage on the opposite track since my view was blocked by a freight elevator shaft. After the Palmetto left, the conductor told me I was on the wrong train!! No way was I staying in Baltimore to look for lodging. One day in that lala land and I was DONE. So I just rode to DC to stay there. Then I booked a northbound ACELA (since it was only 2000 points more than a NE regional). I'm riding the Acela in NJ, with no foreknowledge about the raising of the speed limit, but something felt just different. I checked my speedometer app, it read 148 MPH! WTH? My man on the inside told me that yes they just raised it in a few spots. So that is how, me, who for 20 years avoided the expense of an Acela ticket, ended up on one just three days after they raised the limit - and half a century after the failed attempts at running a Metroliner (regularly and permanently) as a true high speed rail service on the Pennsy. Using a few seconds of your video in my next video - which will include lots of inside footage at the end of it.
@Saxshoe
@Saxshoe 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn't think they would ever be done with the track upgrades at Princeton Junction. Those platform extenders were up seemingly as long as I can remember
@Trainwizard
@Trainwizard 2 жыл бұрын
Great compilation!
@nicholaslowe3658
@nicholaslowe3658 Жыл бұрын
Awesome acela express catch
@DeltaFish11
@DeltaFish11 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! Finally to see it approved. How much time would be shaved off from Philly to NY?
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
lol, 90 seconds.
@TheBeagle58
@TheBeagle58 2 жыл бұрын
I will be blowing passed here tomorrow on it nice video!
@TBF_1J
@TBF_1J 2 жыл бұрын
Like the new intro!
@mj1234321
@mj1234321 2 жыл бұрын
Nice catches! Can't wait to see the next gen Acela at 160 through here.
@DevonMopiedmont1143
@DevonMopiedmont1143 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet now i don't have to go to MASS anymore
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 2 жыл бұрын
1:45 it’s very odd seeing an Acela going so fast without the pantograph up..
@toobeast5485
@toobeast5485 Жыл бұрын
It had one
@nathanjiang100
@nathanjiang100 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be on 2103 through here later this month. Wonder if they will shave time off the schedules for this
@Austin-uj4re
@Austin-uj4re 2 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing and great video! What did the MPH used to be? Was there a significant difference? Also, do they plan to upgrade other sections of track for the trains to reach 150mph?
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
135. They're not completely done with the upgrades yet. Once they are, Hamilton will also see 150 mph on the middle two tracks.
@nathanielcoleman5694
@nathanielcoleman5694 2 жыл бұрын
@@FanRailer When will the Hamilton stretch be completed?
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
No idea, I thought they’d be done by now, considering they started over a decade ago.
@MatthewSmith-cv7op
@MatthewSmith-cv7op Жыл бұрын
@@nathanielcoleman5694 Hamilton by 2023 and Trenton by 2024.
@russellgxy2905
@russellgxy2905 2 жыл бұрын
LONG overdue
@RubyyVista
@RubyyVista 2 жыл бұрын
I have got to go to Princeton Junction when I get the chance
@thetrainguy1
@thetrainguy1 2 жыл бұрын
The actually increased the speed from County to Midway but as of right now. Trains are limited to 130mph in that section. I think after they finish installing the new catenary west of CP Clark they're going to take it east to County. They're already setting up the new catenary arms. It's only a matter of time.
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
The new speeds are as follows: HAM to CP Clark 135. CP Clark to MIDWAY 150. MIDWAY to COUNTY 145. Curves at MP 34, 39, and 40.2 remain 130.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 жыл бұрын
@@FanRailer I saw a graph of all the planned speed upgrades between NY and DC. It seems that they are planning on bringing almost all the higher speed sections to 160mph on most of the route. Is that actually happening? I mean, I know that with the new Avelias they are targeting at lest some of these sections for an ultimate upgrade to 160mph, but is that actually planned for all of these 125+mph sections? Or was that just a fan getting overly excited with their graph? Thank you!
@thetrainguy1
@thetrainguy1 Жыл бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 From what I've been told. They are trying to take advantage of the new trainsets. They are way lighter than the Acelas gen1. They can go faster and are much better at taking curves. So they may introduce a new speeds.
@buffalop32acdm23
@buffalop32acdm23 2 жыл бұрын
How long of a stretch is upgraded? I wonder if they shortened the timetable or will just use the extra speed to keep a better on time performance.
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
Currently only enough to shorten running times by about 90 seconds. No schedule changes will result from this initial speed upgrade.
@nathantzhang
@nathantzhang 2 жыл бұрын
they have always ran up to 150 in massachusetts, right?
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
yes, since electrification and the start of Acela service.
@kiryu2281
@kiryu2281 2 жыл бұрын
With this awesome upgrade, how fast will the Avelia’s go?
@banksrail
@banksrail 2 жыл бұрын
160mph
@nathanielcoleman5694
@nathanielcoleman5694 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see it finished! Whatever happened to the 165 MPH proposal though? Was it cancelled in favor of 150?
@qazisnotapeopleperson7167
@qazisnotapeopleperson7167 2 жыл бұрын
1st gen acela sets can't run to 165. The avelia can and probably will when they launch in service.
@thetrainguy1
@thetrainguy1 2 жыл бұрын
The Aclea is a tier 2 trainset. It's maximum speed in service is 150mph. The reason why the new Acleas are super delayed is because the FRA is extensively testing each system as it's going to be a tier 3 trainset. Which will be able to reach speeds of 220mph. Or 189mph with tilt. The track class is 8. So as of right now. The only thing that's limiting the speed is the train and catenary.
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
The new trainsets have been tested to 165 mph and will be certified for 160 mph on the current infrastructure. We will not see 185 mph operations until dedicated high speed lines are built.
@nathanielcoleman5694
@nathanielcoleman5694 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetrainguy1 Not true. The current Acela trainset’s maximum speed is 160 MPH. It does not reach this speed because the NEC was never certified for operations above 150 MPH. Also, the Avelias are delayed because they have flaws, not because of federal certification
@JBS319
@JBS319 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielcoleman5694 at this point, the Feds are a major part of the delay. Most of the flaws have been rectified
@asphalt_98_gamer76
@asphalt_98_gamer76 Жыл бұрын
2:15 best shot of the video
@MetroGaming75
@MetroGaming75 2 жыл бұрын
1:46 the pantograph is down on the first car
@MegaChallanger
@MegaChallanger 2 жыл бұрын
Weird how 150mph on these tracks feels slower
@collinparsons3363
@collinparsons3363 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because it's not on the platform track like Kingston.
@jgnycRBLX
@jgnycRBLX Жыл бұрын
Damn, 3:18 sounds insane
@retroguy1976
@retroguy1976 2 жыл бұрын
finally geez but still aint enough hi speed this is all we have here
@StormerKiing
@StormerKiing 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Amtrak put Acelas all over the U.S.
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the plans of 160mph upgrades??
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
160 will happen with the new trainsets
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 2 жыл бұрын
@@FanRailer oh. I wonder if they’ll ever upgrade this section to 186 with new signaling
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it; not long enough of a straightaway to gain anything out of such a high speed. By the time you hit 185, you'll be back on the brakes to slow for either the curve at MP40 (eastbound) or for the speed reduction at HAM (westbound). The original NEC will never see speeds higher than probably 160 mph. A new bypass would have to be built for that to happen.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeyLovesTrains On top of what FanRailer said, the tracks aren't far enough apart to allow >160mph. Trains encountering each other in opposite directions would create too much of a shockwave on each other. Purpose - built high speed lines space the tracks further apart to mitigate this.
@elevatortoiletandtransitfa9258
@elevatortoiletandtransitfa9258 Жыл бұрын
My Penn Station attacker needs to be struck by an Amtrak Acela train going 150 mph. I'd be like take that, that's what you get for what you did to me! Btw I was at Penn Station the same day this was uploaded but was assaulted there on January 29, 2023.
@mikesanders878
@mikesanders878 2 жыл бұрын
way too fast for any train, thats how train wrecks happen, totally not cool
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason this comment got approved is so that people can flame the shit out of you for your idiocy. Have at it boys.
@FFred-us9tw
@FFred-us9tw 2 жыл бұрын
@@malachaicarter4338 🤣🤣🤣. What??? Well then I guess the UK and Japan are not developed countries because neither is running trains at 220 MPH in revenue service. The majority are about 200 MPH. If you did some research you would find that the definition of HSR is 125MPH or greater on Improved tracks (such as Amtrak’s NEC). The fastest train in all of Europe is in Italy and runs just over 220. The rest are well below that speed. The fast train in Japan goes 200 MPH in revenue service.
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 жыл бұрын
@@FFred-us9tw I think/hope he meant the track. New HSR track is now commonly built to the 220mph standard and new HSR trainsets are perfectly capable of reaching and sustaining those speeds. 200-220 is rapidly becoming the new standard speed for "good" HSR. It's not nearly as exotic as some people make it out to be, and it's rapidly becoming a common occurrence rather than exotic future tech. But you are right that 125+mph on upgraded legacy track and 150+mph on new track is universally considered HSR. So by that metric the Acela is full-blown HSR on most of the NEC (anywhere it runs at or above 125).
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, what? HSR trains go at much higher speeds in regular operations all the time. There's absolutely nothing unusual or dangerous about this. It's way safer than flying and orders of magnitude safer than driving.
@markantony3875
@markantony3875 2 жыл бұрын
LOL Nice troll dude.
@dancurrier6421
@dancurrier6421 2 жыл бұрын
So stupid no train should be going that fast this is how accidents happen
@FanRailer
@FanRailer 2 жыл бұрын
lmao literally the most uninformed comment about high speed rail ops if there ever was one.
@tropicalsimonthirty2283
@tropicalsimonthirty2283 2 жыл бұрын
@@FanRailer Agreed.
@folkeklarstrom3668
@folkeklarstrom3668 2 жыл бұрын
Many trains around the world go at 200 mph.
@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault 2 жыл бұрын
I can think of exactly zero cases where a train crashed because it was going objectively fast but within the track speed for its location. Bizarre take.
@GenesisSanctuary
@GenesisSanctuary 2 жыл бұрын
You really shouldn't be saying anything else is stupid when you thought posting a comment this dumb was a good idea.
@ElayTVProductionsLLC
@ElayTVProductionsLLC 2 жыл бұрын
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