Amtrak's Pennsylvanian: When Business Class is WORSE than Coach!

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Hello and Welcome back to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Today we are continuing our journey out west with a ride on Amtrak’s Pennsylvanian from here through the Appalachian mountains to Pittsburgh.
Trip Information
Train Number: Amtrak Pennsylvanian 43
Locomotive: GE Genesis P42DC 113
Consist: 4 Amfleet 2 Coach cars, 1 Amfleet 1 Cafe car, 1 Amfleet 1 Business Car, and 1 CAF Baggage Car
Departure Time: 2:36pm
Arrival Time: 7:59pm
Journey Time: 5hr 26min
Top Speed: 79 mph
Ticket Price: $53.00
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- Chapters -
0:00 Hello and Welcome to Harrisburg!
0:42 Pennsylvanian 42 and Keystone 663
1:40 Harrisburg Transportation Center
2:22 A Christmas Display?
2:43 The Main Waiting Area and the National Historic Landmark Plaque
3:09 Our Route this Afternoon
3:53 Boarding the Pennsylvanian
4:31 Seating on Amfleet 2s!
6:09 Departing Harrisburg and the End of Electrification
6:42 Gorgeous Pennsylvania Greenery
6:55 So it turns out we have a Business Class Ticket?!
7:21 The "Business Class" Coach
7:38 Business Class Seats: The Same as the Northeast Corridor
8:59 Cruising along the NS Mainline
9:18 A Look out the Rear: The Best View Onboard
9:37 Altoona, PA
9:53 The Incredible Horseshoe Curve
10:35 Life in Second Person: Virtual Railfan's Live Stream from the Curve!
11:18 Derailed Freight Cars from back in 2021
11:48 Subscribe! And Check Out the Patreon!
12:26 Bathrooms on the Pennsylvanian
13:11 Lunch Time!
14:07 Stats for Nerds!
15:35 One Last Snack from the Café Car
15:47 NS 8099: The Southern Railway Heritage Unit
16:14 Is Business Class Worth it?
17:01 Approaching Pittsburgh's City Center
17:30 Arrival at Pittsburgh Penn Station
17:56 Our Locomotive: GE P42DC 113
18:14 Ohio Central Sugarcreek: A Piece of Railroading History
19:21 Onward Travel to Chicago: Amtrak's Capitol Limited
19:40 Next Week: Atlanta to London on a Delta 767-400
19:59 Thanks for Watching!
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@vincent412l7 Жыл бұрын

Remember the (discontinued) Three Rivers (NY - Philadelphia - Pittsburgh - Chicago). It might be time to reinstate this train?

@cesarnyc Жыл бұрын

I entirely agree, and also with a better timetable between Pittsburgh and Chicago.

@wavesnbikes Жыл бұрын

At least extend a day train from Pittsburgh to Cleveland. Or restore the Broadway Limited thru Canton and Fort Wayne: OG Route over the CF&E into Chicago... Maybe even a Washington-Detroit/Pontiac service via Cleveland and Toledo...

@aridianknight3576 9 күн бұрын

@@vincent412l7 with the new HSR Corridor program it might be simpler than ever and just connect Pittsburgh to Cleveland or Columbus. We could even see a NY-> Scranton -> Akron -> Cleveland 🤷‍♂️

@davidburrow5895 Жыл бұрын

I've traveled in business class on the Pennsylvanian before, and I actually preferred it to coach because it was much quieter and less crowded than coach. It's really not worth paying a premium, though. Like you, I prefer the 2 - 1 configuration found in business class on Midwestern trains. I think Amtrak needs to be clearer with their branding and tell passengers exactly what they will get when purchasing different types of tickets.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

I don't remember if the business class coach was any less crowded than coach, as the coach I chose at the beginning of the video didn't have many people to begin with, but I think it was a fair bit quieter as the people who were in business class understood that it was supposed to be a quiet (or at the very least quieter) coach. I definitely agree that Amtrak needs to be more clear about what passengers get from Business class on long distance trains, because had I known what I would actually be paying for ahead of time, I'm not sure I would have chosen business class at all.

@christopherpearman3422 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips, I am glad you did choose “Business Class” because no-where-in-the-world would I have ever believed that any passenger-transportation would have less ‘leg-room’ in a “Business Class”-seat than a “Coach Class”-seat. 😺!

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

@@christopherpearman3422 Right?! Never would I have thought that business class could be worse than coach, but here we are.

@samtrak1204 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips I hope you write to Amtrak and explain what you said about Business Class on this KZfaq channel. Someone will listen because you make a good point and no one can disagree with the facts.

@iangoldstein Жыл бұрын

I took business class on this train a few years ago and they were using the 2-1 brown leather seats. I had a one seater all the way from New York to Pittsburgh and it was really nice. It's no excuse, but I don't think the Amfleet I was intended to be business class on this route.

@mr.conductorfromsts4204 Жыл бұрын

I remember this station was used for the movie: Thomas and the Magic Railroad when they used the Strasburg 475 4-8-0 Steam Locomotive (Ex-Norfolk & Western) for the Rainbow Sun. Harrisburg Transportation Center was used for Big City Station.

@Tubes12AX7k Жыл бұрын

I'm a frequent business traveler and I take business class when I can. What you're actually paying for is a quiet car, with electrical outlets, no screaming babies, and dedicated baggage space so you can get to your bags and get off the train quickly without much hassle. As soon as I sit down in the seat, I'm probably plugging in my phone or computer and answering emails, and then after that I'll probably get a glass of wine and then sleep. Maybe less likely to take a long ride like Harrisburg to Pittsburgh but definitely would do this from New York to Baltimore or Philadelphia to Boston.

@sandyyoung5876 2 ай бұрын

😂

@sandyyoung5876 2 ай бұрын

😊😊

@97nelsn Жыл бұрын

I took this train from Greenburg to Newark in 2021 after I helped a friend move to Western PA. I enjoyed the scenery and the horseshoe curve. Once the train got into Philly I thought to myself “How is it that Philly and Pittsburgh are in the same state yet look radically different from each other?”. I wanted to take this train again but going to Greenburg however my friend moved to Ann Arbor, MI before her lease expired so now I’ll be flying to DTW but I might take the Wolverine to Chicago when I visit Ann Arbor sometime this year.

@TubaDaddy8 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you about the MLKJ East Busway. It works really well, but a sleeker, faster light rail line would be better suited. It would tie into the existing (though small) Pittsburgh subway system instead of driving around the cramped streets of downtown as the buses do.

@newenglandskier13 Жыл бұрын

Harrisburg is my favorite Amtrak station that I’ve been to so far, and I’ve been to 30th Street Station & Moynihan Train Hall. There’s just something about its classic PRR vibe that’s like no other station I’ve visited.

@cathymarie8304 Жыл бұрын

Harrisburg is a great station but parking is a real problem. There is a reasonably priced lot behind the station but is a bit of a walk. Middletown now has a nice station. It use to be free to park there, but is now $10/day to park which I think is pricey. Five dollars a day would be reasonable.

@newenglandskier13 Жыл бұрын

@@cathymarie8304 Luckily I didn't need to worry about parking because I took the train there!

@missybarbour6885 Жыл бұрын

@@newenglandskier13 Now that's the way to do it! haha

@hollywood1340 Жыл бұрын

Stats for nerds is my favorite! Wish more channels did this.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you enjoy them! I never really know if it's a part of the video that people like, so it's always great to hear that its a welcome addition.

@cathymarie8304 Жыл бұрын

I usually take the business class if it’s less than $40 more. The reason is there are normally no children in business class and is much quieter than coach. Sometimes the coach cars are like a playground and the conductor seldom intervenes. Then I just go through all the cars to find the quietest one but if the train is full there may not be any seats.

@mandalorianrailfan8458 Жыл бұрын

I took the Pennsylvanian from Paioli to Altoona back in December. Not a good train for business travelers in terms of convenience and ability to work, but still worth it. Wish PennDot would pay for more trains, not to say they haven’t tried something, but if you’re on a schedule, driving is almost the only way to go.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Yeah the timing of the single daily train is pretty inconvenient, but I know they’re planning on adding a second round trip to the line, which should hopefully help.

@qjtvaddict Жыл бұрын

Most people are on a schedule that is why Amtrak has such a small mode share. People want SPEED AND FREQUENCY they don’t care about feelings of nostalgia or beauty

@ecoRfan Жыл бұрын

I certainly wonder what speeds the Pennsylvania Railroad ran their passenger trains at over the mainline. With Amtrak on the Norfolk Southern owned mainline, it only briefly topped out around 75 mph, while most of it cruised no faster than 60 mph. Add in station stops and how much of the cruising was not even that fast.

@mirzaahmed6589 Жыл бұрын

The only advantage to business class on Amtrak corridor trains is free drinks from the cafe.

@Angela-rc6ym Жыл бұрын

You don't ride business class on the Pennsylvanian for the leg room. You ride business class to get some peace and quiet and not be reminded about the personal hygiene habits of the Amish.

@leonardroman6544 Жыл бұрын

Try not to travel with Amish onboard on Thursday and Friday. The Amish only bath on Saturday.

@mybigfatpolishlife Жыл бұрын

Pennsylvania really dislike the amish

@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this Train information

@vicsams4431 Жыл бұрын

I agree. My wife and I opted for Coach Class on the AMTRAK Maple Leaf (14 hours Toronto to New York) and on the AMTRAK Vermonter (12 hours from New York to St Albans) and we preferred it too, rather than Business Class. Where Business Class is situated in half the Café Car, Business Class was decidedly hotter as the Aircon had to compete with the cooking going on in the Café section. Also you can get interrupted sitting in Business Class as all the dining passengers file passed you. Personally, I also prefer the cloth seats in Coach over the slippery leather seats in Business. So all in all, much better in Coach, and it was half the price ! As your video shows, Coach is more than adequate. Regards from London, England.

@ozgirl45 11 ай бұрын

Another great video! I have just found your channel and I’m playing catch-up. It was amazing to go around the Horseshoe Curve and see yourself at the same time! I’m a great fan of Virtual Railfan since the pandemic.

@motlevi Жыл бұрын

the old guy with his head face down on the table at 13:21 lol

@ecoRfan Жыл бұрын

I just rode A42 yesterday from Pittsburgh to Trenton. I was in the last car in pull and got a view out the back. The Amfleet II seats are definitely a premium product. Simply huge amount of space between seats, and the legrest is especially premium. But I’m surprised the Amfleet I is considered business class while the II is considered coach, when the II’s have bigger pitch and the legrest. It’s definitely an action-packed and scenic ride. Must have passed about three dozen freight trains along the way. While I was 40 minutes late at Huntingdon, was only 9 minutes late in Trenton.

@markh7306 Жыл бұрын

I am a frequent traveler between Philly and Pittsburgh, where I have family. I have taken coach and later switched to business Class, which is less crowded than coach. Several times, I have had the entire row to myself. I understand service to Pittsburgh is being increased. Maybe they will upgrade the seats. In general, I am very satisfied with Amtrak. Except for delays caused by NS freight trains, I have experienced on time performances both ways.

@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын

The service between Pittsburgh and Harrisburg is quite slow. Driving or taking a bus is potentially much faster even if the Pa Turnpike is often a mess. Perhaps Amtrak should acknowledge this fact and invest in a fleet of "super busses" and leave the rail service for freight and sightseeing.

@markh7306 Жыл бұрын

@@GilmerJohn You write busses are "potentially" better. That is not stating a fact. Also, I have driven the PA Turnpike many times between Philly and the burgh and have had no issues, except once when I left on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, where we sat at Somerset for 30 minutes due to volume. So, I altered my schedule to leave on Monday instead of Sunday. Busses = more pollution and congestion. People do not want more roads. I also understand Amtrak is planning to increase service to Pittsburgh.

@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын

Actually, a lot of people want more roads. Pointing to Pennsylvania, I wonder if some tunnels blasting through the mountains might be popular. They could decrease the route miles and the time.

@potblack6043 Жыл бұрын

That toy trainset in Harrisburg isn't seasonal. It may have been at one point, but now they keep it there year round.

@MetsGiantsRangersfan Жыл бұрын

I'm planning to go to Pittsburgh to see the Mets play at PNC Park. This may have answered my question on business class. Leg rest looks clutch.

@AndreiTupolev Жыл бұрын

Few things illustrate better how the railroad builders had to adapt to the terrain than that map showing the route

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s amazing how back and forth some routes have to be to traverse what’s a seemingly short distance.

@timbacchus Жыл бұрын

Loved the seats.

@septabus44 Жыл бұрын

Also depends on what equipment the Pennsylvanian have at some time they do have some amfleet 2 business classes

@PhantomThiefOfSports Жыл бұрын

I ridden the Pennsylvanian before in 2021 and noticed the derailed cars and wondered how they were gonna remove them.

@rolandhandy9030 Жыл бұрын

I have taken business class on the Pennsylvanian a few times, however in the cafe/business car. I preferred business due to it being just 18 seats and if traveling alone having the single seat. Thanks for stating the difference between Amfleet 1 and 2.

@PatrickLeFloch 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@garyweisel7084 Жыл бұрын

I've traveled on the Pennsylvanian many times and find that Business is better than Coach overall. Whether it is worth the extra money is up to you. But even Business Class ends up being cheaper and less annoying than driving (for me at least)! And I like to support Amtrak. There are plans to have a second Pennsylvanian within the three years or so, using federal money to lay more track (which will benefit NS also). The return of Three Rivers service would be great but NS will probably complain, requiring more federal money.

@Redhand1949 Жыл бұрын

I have taken this trip several times, either as part of a much longer train trip to/from points West or just between Newark, NJ, and Pittsburgh. It's pretty unexceptional so far as I'm concerned, with limited visibility in the narrow valleys and through Horseshoes Curve almost before you know it because much is obscured by trees. I agree that the Business class car, which I've taken, is quite underwhelming. I was a bit surprised that you didn't comment on the part of the route through Johnstown where the infamous flood took place. My one other comment is that the wait in Pittsburgh to make connections with the Capitol Limited can be extremely long, especially when it occurs in the middle of the night! Still, I am glad there is Amtrak service between Philly and Pittsburgh. It's important to keep the route open.

@cesarnyc Жыл бұрын

One advantage of riding these trains in the dead of winter is that you get better views with no leaves on the trees, specially when the tracks run parallel to streams or rivers.

@robertadams6606 Жыл бұрын

The main tracks between Harrisburg & Altoona are only 2. After Altoona there are 3. At 1time there were 4, but for some reason Conrail( Freight operator at the time ) took out one of the tracks West of Altoona.

@BettaB2010 Жыл бұрын

I took this train today from Trenton to Harrisburg.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I hope you had a great journey.

@BettaB2010 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips I did

@stevesteffen7001 Жыл бұрын

Thank ypu

@joebob3719 Жыл бұрын

I love the Pennsylvanian, frankly it’s the best way to go from Pgh to Philly, and probably NYC too if you don’t want to fly. The buses are a miserable ride, and make the Amfleet 1s seem like the peak of modern luxury.

@johnchambers8528 Жыл бұрын

I rode the Pennsylvanian several years ago and did buy business class. During my journey I walked through the train and did notice several of the coaches were the longer distance type of coach seats. I thought it odd that the coach seats would be more nice than the business class. At the time I rode the premium for business class was not as high as you paid. But at the fare you paid I would agree that it would not be worth the additional fare for the service.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

The fare was certainly high for the quality of service. Had it been lower, like you mentioned, it probably would have been worth it, but for the 50% increase over standard coach, it was a total ripoff. Granted, the $53 I ended up paying was a little less than the actual ticket price, as there was some form of discount issued when I booked a multi-city journey with Harrisburg as a pitstop. Not sure why that was, but still, not worth the extra cash.

@peytonharris616 Жыл бұрын

As a local to Lewistown, the river and some town pronunciations hurt 😅 but love the vid! Pennsylvanian has gotten me to and from college many times, thankfully without much incident :)

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

I tried my best to get the pronunciations closer to correct this time around, but looks like I was still a ways off 😂

@peytonharris616 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips Sus-kwuh-hannah, Kit-tanning, and Hun-ning-don, essentially, but the Pittsburgh student in me perked also at Mononga-hey-lah haha; loved seeing the trip and so many local shots! Went right by my house lol

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

@@peytonharris616 Haha thanks for the english lesson. I'll be sure to correct it if I'm ever back in the area. And I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

@patrickfrazier5324 Жыл бұрын

Shoutout to the Pennsylvanian 42 (NYC-bound) crew; they're great!

@wrobb3 Жыл бұрын

Very timely video! We’re set to do the whole length of the Pennsylvanian NYC-PGH in 2 weeks and have been going back and forth on whether to bid for an upgrade or not. Seeing this tells me it’s probably not worth the extra $29 (lowest bid at the moment) unless we luck out and get an Amfleet II business coach. Any idea if it’s standard that they use Amfleet I for business on the Pennsylvania? Or did you just have bad luck on the day you travelled? Awesome channel by the way- keep up the great videos!

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

The Amfleet 2 never came in a business class configuration, just coach and Diner Lite, so it’ll always be an Amfleet 1 business coach. That is unless you luck out and somehow end up with a half diner half business Amfleet 1, which has the larger seats like I showed in the video. And thanks for the support, it’s greatly appreciated!

@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын

So far as the bathroom being clean can mostly be blamed on careless passenger, just my opinion

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

You're definitely correct, but for business class, I was expecting cleaner.

@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips Point well taken, in the old days just about every car had a n attendant who did what you spoke of wanting

@jerseypup Жыл бұрын

First time I rode the Pennsylvanian many years ago, I also booked business. Haven't done that since. Back then, It was only half of the coach cars that were the long distance Amfleet II. Now, they're all Amfleet II. So business isn't really worth it. Also, the 2-1 Business layout is generally only on state-supported services, the Pennsylvanian and Keystone excluded.

@linksrepublikaner Жыл бұрын

Bro, your channel is pretty underrated!

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Haha it's always nice to hear that the content is punching above its weight! I'm sure we'll get to be one of the larger channels someday, but until then, I'll keep putting out the best content I can!

@broyofroyo1207 Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@johnburke1317 Жыл бұрын

Nice video

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jeremyzimmerman6968 Жыл бұрын

That's weird when I traveled on the Pennsylvanian a year ago we had the business class combo with the diner car. I wonder if they had to make a substitution for your trip?

@broyofroyo1207 Жыл бұрын

Cool 😎

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😄

@broyofroyo1207 Жыл бұрын

Your welcome 🤗

@sketchyAnalogies Жыл бұрын

I've been shopping around on Amtrak for tickets, and there have been weird occasions of business costing less than coach for a multi train ticket. I'll try to report back if I find one or remember one.

@AlexCentury Жыл бұрын

I have a ticket in business on the Pennsylvanian in a few weeks lol

@jakestolar8457 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, your video convinced me to downgrade my Business ticket and save some money.

@apollosaturn5 Жыл бұрын

Amfleet IIs are basically Amfleet I Businesss Class.

@themainlinerailfan6748 Жыл бұрын

Cool Video im sure I’m gonna be 1 of many to comment

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed!

@JasonB808 Жыл бұрын

The toilet on in the Amtrack in this video is not as dirty as most public bathrooms in US so I guess we have to be great full for that. 😅 But no Transportation toilets can compare to Wheel Chair Accessible Toilets on Japanese Shinkansen. It’s not only super clean, and modern, it is the largest toilet on anything with wheels or wings.

@ScottRothsroth0616 Жыл бұрын

The changes mentioned at rough timestamp 13:31 look effect on or around August 20, 2022.

@user-jj1uy5qg6n Жыл бұрын

I like the horseshoe curve I have been around it in years Amtrak put the Broadway Limited in the history books I think it is a real shame I grew around Cape Cod I lived and worked in Chicago a few years Rode the Broadway limited back and forth

@dennisyoung4631 Жыл бұрын

P42 locomotives have motors you can *feel.*

@chasespadavecchia6407 Жыл бұрын

It sounds like Amfleet IIs took inspiration from Amfleet I business class. I would be curious to see if there are any Amfleet II business class cars, or what they would've looked like. If you are riding from anywhere East of Harrisburg, coach is 100% better. Once you hit Harrisburg almost everybody gets off and you get lots of space. Meanwhile in business class, you're probably next to someone entire ride.

@chinasl45 Жыл бұрын

That train hasnt worked in years and yes, I am from and live in Harrisburg City.

@rominn2184 5 ай бұрын

I will never ride in Amtrak business class again unless it's one of the older business-cafe cars that have the red seats, and the ONLY cars that have SINGLE seats on one side so you don't have to sit next to anyone. Otherwise, it is not worth it. That other half of the cafe is separated by a curtain and that business section is smaller and more intimate. THAT'S an actual business class, not a car that is really just glorified coach if even that. I too took the Pennsylvanian to Pittsburgh in "business class" and felt duped. But Amtrak doesn't tell you what kind of business class they are using - a full car (not business class) or a cafe-business car which is the only kind of legitimate business class that exists on Amtrak save for the Acela. But how were you unaware you'd booked business class? It costs more and it indicates it right on your reservation.

@LonestarTrips 5 ай бұрын

I totally agree with your sentiment. Business class is only really business class if it has the 2x1 leather seats. I was unaware I had business class because I totally forgot. This was segment 24 of 32 on an 8 day trip across the Northeast and Midwest to gather footage for the channel.

@ACooke108 Жыл бұрын

You should have gone onto the Sugar Creek car.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Seeing as it is a private car, it is not open to the public.

@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын

It seems like we are being a bit picky? I never can get a Business Class seat on the Midwest Hub, they always seems to be sold out??

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Business class on Midwest trains is operated with a significantly smaller cabin than on northeast trains. Midwest trains operate the Amfleet 1 Business/Diner cars, which have 5-6 rows of 2x1, so only a max of 18 business class passengers, while the full coach business class can hold more than double that.

@bitrexgm Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips The "business class" on the Northeast Regional between Boston and NYC is a bit better now that there's assigned seating. Before that on crowded trains the car would often be entirely full by the time the train hit Rte 128 southbound from Boston, once a few business passengers spread out across two seats, and some coach passengers wander in and decide to sit in that car instead. And the staff did NOT care if you could find a seat or not. One time I used a BC upgrade on a ride from Boston to Providence and ended up just sitting at a "reserved for staff only" table across from one of the conductors in the cafe car the whole way, as there was nowhere else to sit..not really worth it lol. On that popular route it really does just seem like a way to sell pretty much the same seats at a significantly higher price once the others sell out, though assigned seating on an otherwise unreserved train makes it a little bit more palatable.

@carltonkeys6205 8 ай бұрын

I was told that the electrication went to Sunbury 🤔

@scottsheehan1596 Жыл бұрын

where would we be if we didn't have something to complain about

@qjtvaddict Жыл бұрын

Wow you don’t hold back

@wallsknob Жыл бұрын

The Monongahela River?

@EmeraldCrimsonShadowPeach2K5 Жыл бұрын

You know, I was about to leave a comment asking about the Capitol Limited to Chicago right before you mentioned it. Anyways, cool video. I hope to ride the Pennsylvanian and see the Appalachian Mountains one day. I've only gone as far as Harrisburg.

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Haha took the words right out of your mouth! I highly recommend taking the train out to Pittsburgh if you can, cause the views are just stunning. The footage in this video doesn't do it justice, despite my best attempt.

@Jimbodisfan Жыл бұрын

Good morning! My friend Dave and I took the Pennsylvanian from Philly to Pittsburgh on Thursday, June 30, 2010, to see the Phillies-Pirates series at PNC Park. The train left 30th Street Station in Philadelphia at 12:43 PM and arrived at Pittsburgh's relatively small Amtrak station at 1100 Liberty Ave at 8:05 PM. For us the highlight was going through the Allegheny Mountains just past Altoona, chugging through that famous curve. From the back of the train you can see the front. Altoona's minor-league baseball team is named the Curve. We returned July 5, 2010, on a trip equally as long.

@EmeraldCrimsonShadowPeach2K5 Жыл бұрын

@@Jimbodisfan That’s cool! I like baseball, too! I'm from New York, though, so I like the Mets.

@qjtvaddict Жыл бұрын

5 hours? : AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT

@LiamWalsheliamskitchen Жыл бұрын

It's the same for the Palmetto. Business is worse than coach.

@carltonkeys6205 Жыл бұрын

It's still up sir

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

What is?

@carltonkeys6205 8 ай бұрын

The model train display

@elliotthalsey2810 Жыл бұрын

My father worked that train

@user-jj1uy5qg6n Жыл бұрын

I do my very best to go on a vacation I do not want to go broke doing it I bring my own food I not going to pay Amtrak high food prices All that I want the train to do is get me from point A to B

@stuartlee6622 Жыл бұрын

Where is the Rockville Bridge, Lewistown????

@robertadams6606 Жыл бұрын

Also no mention of Gallitzin Tunnel.

@aleks1105 Жыл бұрын

Why ya all American trains so dirty like dammm. I am from Germany and this gives me chills the amount of dirt I see

@collectivelyimprovingtrans2460 Жыл бұрын

0:16 correction: the Keystone Corridor refers to the entire line between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. what Harrisburg is the western terminus of is the Philadelphia to Harrisburg mainline

@34jared Жыл бұрын

Reason to take biz. class = quiet and no kids.

@StudioSA15 Жыл бұрын

Harrisbug!

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Harrisbug!

@StudioSA15 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips yess!, can u add me on discord

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

@@StudioSA15 What for?

@StudioSA15 Жыл бұрын

@@LonestarTrips sound clips when you go on trips + talk about train (:

@apollosaturn5 11 ай бұрын

If you have Amfleet II coach cars, what's the point of having an Amfleet I business class car? Just "money grab", I guess.

@penguinsfan251 9 ай бұрын

In Pennsylvania, we call the mountains the Alleghenies. Nobody calls them the Appalachians here. The reservoir is called Kit-TAN-ing. The Mon River's long name is Mo-nong-a-HAY-la. Yeah, it's an "e" but pronounced long A.

@danielpoliti31 Жыл бұрын

No mention of cost?

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Cost is in the description.

@danielpoliti31 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, i did not see that. I have traveled alot by train....in Thailand, but never in the US.

@MissRailfan 7 ай бұрын

What day was this. I did amtrak round trip from Lewistown to Harrisburg n back with 42's leader. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbRgjJOim97Limw.html That train layout is always christmas i think. Junk. You follow the Susquehanna, till Duncannon to follow the Juniata River. You didn't get the clip of crossing Rockville?!?! 2 track mainline only sidings make it 3. From Altoona to Conpit (seward) is 3 tracks). I used to live near Gallitzin/Hsc/Cresson.

@entized5671 Жыл бұрын

try riding first class on ÖBB eurocity ☺️🤮

@DeltaFish11 Жыл бұрын

The year is 2042 and here lies NS train and horseshoe curve

@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын

Amtrak has never really tried to improve the entire line from Pittsburg to Philly.

@samtrak1204 Жыл бұрын

Within the last 20 years there have been massive station and track improvements on the Keystone. These include returning the corridor to all-electric service with more and faster trains.

@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын

@@samtrak1204 I realize over a 20 year span, money has been spent. and compared with 2000, there are improvements, but still not even close to getting the line, service and equipment to the level it should be . PA deserves better.

@potblack6043 Жыл бұрын

@@gatorjay7972 And it's gonna get it. Back in June, it was announced that the line will be receiving $200 million in infrastructure and safety improvement, and service will be increased to two roundtrips daily.

@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын

@@potblack6043 Thank you for the update. I am old and old school. I love passenger trains. I think that something is lost when we fly over everything to get somewhere. Plus it is so much fun if you make it so.

@gatorjay7972 Жыл бұрын

@@samtrak1204 I agree the commuter line has been improved ...I am a fan of the longer runs and I believe that with good schedules, frequency and amenities, Pittsburg to Philly would be a good run .

@joshuafajardo5697 11 ай бұрын

Pennsylvanian should only be having Amfleet 1️⃣, not 2️⃣

@williamralph5442 Жыл бұрын

Business class is not worth a free coke. Thanks

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@centredoorplugsthornton4112 Жыл бұрын

Bluntly, Amfleet ll cars don't belong on trains like the Pennsylvanian.

@Aqua_108 Жыл бұрын

I am first on your video

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

Happy to have a loyal fan such as yourself!

@dant.6364 Жыл бұрын

The Pittsburgh station is dark and dirty, has trees growing out of the canopy roof on the approach, and particle board as you enter the building. What a disgrace. Go read the horrible Google reviews.

@marckemp9955 11 ай бұрын

So they keep going on and on about being in PA. I've tried to just ignore it but ok who's in PA? The information you just provided I can't verify therefore I'm not going to record it because you didn't give me anything to go with. I'll do you better than some organizations who scourge, abuse, torment, and mock the witness but unless there's some reasonable accounting method...you know like if I told you someone was doing something illegal for monetary gain and you could clearly see they have more than what their reported salary is..see that would raise questions and there would be reasonable doubt cast but you haven't offered me anything. It's like if the governor said I was crazy one day but the next day he's using my mental faculties for some projects of his own but instead of paying like he promises over and over he just renegs and abuses and mocks until the next time he wants something and then a repeat. A bystander parties might wonder which it is? He's crazy and totally unreliable and just hearing himself? Or he's actually hearing the governor who's got a big secret going on? Or what is really going on? It can't be both. So if he's been abused and tormented by these parties for years and years and really isn't mental that raises questions. 1. Why did they take advantage and think he's mental? Why don't they compensate him since they expect to be compensated? Why didn't enforcement who was advised a thousand times do anything to the clearly guilty doing illegal and contributing to other's harm? Several more questions like that? So you have to decide why you are being dishonest? If he's mental why do you go on using and abusing and mocking and harassing over the internet (all at once)? If he's not mental why didn't you Apologize for being lousy creeps who don't have a clue what you're doing and are very sexually immoral also? As for this witness I have no idea how I could verify anything in PA since you didn't tell me who or what city or anything else. All I can do is take it under advisement there's someone highly immoral in PA. Now why doesn't that surprise me there's immoral people in the world in all walks of life?

@jbean9657 Жыл бұрын

Do you know what homely means? 🤣 maybe you were using the British definition lol. In North America this means "unattractive" and "plain" but then you go on to describe it with words like beautiful and say it's on the national historic register. Lol

@aridianknight3576 9 күн бұрын

Damn shoulda stopped for a primantis sandwich

@LonestarTrips 9 күн бұрын

I did! Had a couple hours to kill between the Pennsylvanian and Capitol Limited, so I went out to grab dinner at Primanti's.

@aridianknight3576 9 күн бұрын

@@LonestarTrips oh nice, what’d ya get and what’d ya think?

@LonestarTrips 9 күн бұрын

@@aridianknight3576 It's been a couple years, so I don't remember exactly what I got, but I remember it being awesome.

@aridianknight3576 9 күн бұрын

@@LonestarTrips fuck yeah, can’t go too wrong at primantis lol

@LonestarTrips 9 күн бұрын

@@aridianknight3576 That you can't. I need to get back out to the area so I can go back.

@carlsmith5545 Жыл бұрын

America needs true highspeed bullet trains.

@IndigosClothing Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure everyone knows that but it’s not that easy

@robertadams6606 Жыл бұрын

It will never happen in USA too many grade crossings, most of the track used by Amtrak is not their own trackage, is used to haul freight traffic too. The closest is on small section of NEC, & Brightline in Fla. Even in Virginia there is a St. running track.

@povertyspec9651 Жыл бұрын

Amtrash

@blakemorris2328 Жыл бұрын

You really mispronounced Susquehanna

@LonestarTrips Жыл бұрын

I am aware. I tried my best to find the correct pronunciation online, but I couldn't find a consistent answer, so I just picked one. Clearly I did not choose wisely.