Pere Marquette's Streamliner: The First Post-War Streamliner
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3 жыл бұрынMost people know the Pere Marquette Railway for it's N-1 Berkshire locomotives hauling fast freights, or surviving 1225 pulling excursions in rural Michigan. However, an often overlooked part of the PM's history is their unique, one of a kind streamliner deemed the first post-war American streamliner train. While other trains had debuted before the PM's train, the Pere Marquette was the first all new to be built and enter service after World War II. In this video I detail the history of this train during its life on the Pere Marquette, Chesapeake & Ohio, along with its eventual continuation on Amtrak.
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Super Mario 3D World OST - Double Cherry Pass
Super Mario 3D World OST - Super Bell Hill
Super Mario 3D World OST - Super Block Land
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door OST - Excess Express at Day
Sonic Unleashed OST - Empire City (Night)
Celeste OST - Postcard from Celeste Mountain
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@AmtrakGuy365 3 жыл бұрын
Heya, thanks for watching! Sorry this video took a little while to get out, I've been pretty busy with college assignments and projects lately but I think things should be calming down a bit on my end. Either way, I'm gonna try to stick to my weekly/bi-weekly schedule as usual best I can going forward.
@lyricof3003 3 жыл бұрын
its ok man do what u got to do
@K-Effect 3 жыл бұрын
AmtrakGuy365 No worries no hurry's. Thank you for all of the videos you have made, I appreciate all of them
@hmitchell8618 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the Cardinal and its history?
@sirmartinfrobisher 3 жыл бұрын
The name of the train is wrong being pronounced as "Pierre" Marquette, which translates from French as "Peter", entirely incorrect. The correct word is the original "Pere" or its translation, "Father". Pere Jacques Marquette was an explorer of the region. My apologies for the correction. My ancestor was a French invader of England in 1066.
@dwightpowell6673 3 жыл бұрын
You are a college student?
@quasimoto7662 3 жыл бұрын
The Chessie honestly deserves its own video Apparently it *did* run 1 test train. So it technically did turn a wheel
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Pensyfan19 3 жыл бұрын
It did run one *test train*. Not revenue service tho.
@jonnycando 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pensyfan19 the turbine locomotives built for it were a maintenance disaster….most of the bugs could have been worked out eventually…but Young was soon to go to New York Central and took the Chessie ideas with him and named it the NY Xplorer..which may actually have ran…
@DanTDMJace Жыл бұрын
@@Pensyfan19 *test train*
@Token_Nerd 3 жыл бұрын
Points for the 3D world music.
@trainstorm1225 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best Mario soundtracks. 👌🏻
@ClarissaPacker 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is a grand rapids native I have been on amtraks pere marquette a few times & I enjoyed every bit of it
@spaceghost8995 3 жыл бұрын
Pere Marquette had a branch line straight through my hometown of Laporte, IN ! It went to Lacrosse, IN. We hopped a flat car once around 1977 and rode rode it up to New Buffalo, MI . It was C&O then. Some yard guy started yelling at us as we jumped off near the New Buffalo mainline connection. The section from Union Mills to Lacrosse are all that remain of the branch. Obviously there were no streamliners to be seen by then.
@Pensyfan19 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Goes to show that even relatively small passenger trains such as this one have a history of their own and play a significant role in the history of railroads.
@Slipperyquits Жыл бұрын
Chesapeake and Ohio operated the pere Marquette until Amtrak took over in 1971. Amtrak still operates a train of pere Marquette name. Even though the old C&O Pere Marquettes may be gone Amtrak carries their legacy.
@DerpyPossum 3 жыл бұрын
honestly, greatest paint scheme ever.
@TheMrPeteChannel Ай бұрын
SP Daylight said hi.
@phalanxHH 3 жыл бұрын
These trains still look so futuristic today despite their age. Dang, they look more futuristic than the Trains today.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 3 жыл бұрын
They might get better ridership if they ran a more convenient schedule. Outbound, it runs into the very late evening; inbound, you have to get up ridiculously early in the morning to get it unless you're already most of the way to Chicago. (And Amtrak's web site seems to deny all knowledge of the train going back from Chicago to Grand Rapids.)
@Jaidyn228 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew Pere Marquette had a streamliner
@JoyceLund 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Boypogikami132 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@trainstorm1225 3 жыл бұрын
The Pere Marquette being my favorite railroad, I love learning more about it. Fantastic video! Really enjoyed!
@crr311sux5 3 жыл бұрын
Those E7's are beautiful
@dmrr7739 3 жыл бұрын
“Known as ‘Pierre’ Marquette”? Père means father.
@jaysmith1408 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Alcofoamer 3 жыл бұрын
Is pronouncing "pere" as "Pierre" a Michigan thing? The correct pronouncination is "pear" like the fruit but in New York Central Odyssey by Green Frog of which most of the footage was shot in Michigan by Emery Gulash, the narrator as says "Pierre Marquette" instead of "Pere Marquette," then to hear "Pierre Marquette" in this video too I'm not sure if it was just an error on the part of the narrator or is this just how Michganders prnounce it.
@davidlyon4950 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alcofoamer No that's not how we pronounce it in Michigan. Although we usually refer to him as Father Marquette as he was a Catholic priest and early explorer.
@Boypogikami132 3 жыл бұрын
So? You just played yourself. Because it would mean “Father Marquette”
@Greatdome99 3 жыл бұрын
Priest
@larryloveless2967 3 жыл бұрын
I live in St. Louis and have become a bit of a rail buff having ridden all the AMTRAK rail west of St. Louis to see The West. This video gave me good background of an AMTRAK route I had no familiarity. I liked riding the Superliner passenger cars used for long distance rail out West. This line is fortunate to use the Superliner passernger cars for comfort as I thought AMTRAK only used them for the routes out West.
@tanegashima5395 3 жыл бұрын
I see streamliner, I click
@hjmiller2689 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, my uncles antique store-Lost and Found-is just across from the station. When my grandma went to see him she sent me a picture of a private car parked in the station belonging to the Pennsylvania Railroad. I believe it was an entirely refurbished Budd Observation car. I really do hope the Pere Marquette passenger line could become whole again, perhaps connecting other routes like TC or Mackinac too.
@rogeralsop3479 2 жыл бұрын
Marvellous!
@MJstudioversion2024 3 жыл бұрын
Holland, Michigan my HOMETOWN!!!!
@NickelPlateMxne 3 жыл бұрын
Streamline Railroads were and will always be my favorite type of train transport
@BnuuyBoi2005 3 жыл бұрын
Bootiful streamliner
@SantaFe19484 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos!
@Michrailfan 3 жыл бұрын
IS THIS A MICHIGAN REFERENCE OMG!!!!!11!!!
@MegeGabe_Personal 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I live here
@DL-cd7ew 3 жыл бұрын
Livonia here
@trainsupporter9088 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for a fantastic video! I've ridden the PM once on Amtrak and it was a lovely trip.
@northwoodsrailproductions4538 3 жыл бұрын
Another documentary knocked out of the park, I can’t wait for the next one you make
@dalekling7303 2 жыл бұрын
So sad to see passenger trains going away from Traverse city. Hope it returns one day.
@rsinoms 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! Very well done. Enjoyed it thoroughly!
@riondoesthings1988 3 жыл бұрын
Pere Marquette is one of my favorites, so i already know I’m going to love this video!
@A54729 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@FredWilbury 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic love this look , thanks for showing this regards Fred
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 жыл бұрын
1:35 I love this shot.
@maestromecanico597 3 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@trainroomgary 3 жыл бұрын
Well done and very historic • Cheers from the Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
@dresdonmccool709 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very well made and informative video
@naturelvr123 3 жыл бұрын
You put out a good video about trains after the war. But I believe that Americans (& I mean those in control) really lost the "travel by train" idea. We spent a month in the UK & used only trains & bus to get around. And it works. I'm not putting down our system of transportation but if we had a system to go from Chicago to Denver or anywhere else as does the UK to get around-that would be fantastic. ps As a kid, the barber I went to in central Illinois had large photos of the Art-Deco style of engines on the wall, they are still in my memory.
@dknowles60 2 жыл бұрын
that is because the Uk is tiny
@joshuasutherland6692 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shiiiiiit I have a single hazy childhood memory of getting off of a train at the OG C&O station in New Buffalo. I was so confused when I gradually realized there was no longer a station there and why a new one was built downtown. Thanks for that info!
@spaceghost8995 3 жыл бұрын
The station built downtown in New Buffalo is just a plexiglass and metal shanty . Also, the Pere Marquette doesn't go downtown anyway. The Michigan Central (New York Central) line goes through downtown. It is now wholly owned by Amtrak. Trains from Chicago to Detroit run on that line. The Amtrak on the PM line doesn't stop in New Buffalo anymore , at least I don't think so.
@Sweatymilkshake 3 жыл бұрын
New AG365 documentary? Time to go make some food so I can sit back and really enjoy myself. Love your content man!
@Pensyfan19 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there. I believe you commented on my Soviet Locomotive documentary. Glad to see you on one of my inspirations for the series.
@Boypogikami132 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pensyfan19 who r u
@Pensyfan19 3 жыл бұрын
@@Boypogikami132 A channel who makes similar content to Amtrakguy365 regarding little known locomotives, and a monthly railway news series called the Pensyfan Periodical.
@ericmiller9067 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice, Jared!
@agentbrickschannel4523 3 жыл бұрын
lol this has 3D World music.. I love it
@christopherorourke6543 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. It would be nice if Detroit-Grand Rapids service would be restored which would close one Amtrak gap & also Detroit-Toledo-Dayton-Cincinnati-Louisville service as well. There’s plans of restoring Detroit-Traverse City service through Pontiac-Flint & other Michigan cities & towns.
@qjtvaddict 2 жыл бұрын
They will make perfect high speed lines
@Blaze06 Жыл бұрын
If they did do Detroit to Grand Rapids, that would mean more trains on the CSX Plymouth Sub!
@russellgxy2905 3 жыл бұрын
I think this explains why the C&O adopted the tri-color scheme instead of the Yellow & Silver which adorned the L-1's and M-1's. What a curious consist it had at first, especially with sleepers on a route not even 200 miles in length
@samsrailventures1961 7 ай бұрын
Nice video! And good job of adding in the new Amtrak Pere Marquette info. I grew up in Muskegon in the 60's and 70's, and remember the Muskegon connection; a GP9 loco usually pulling a single heavyweight coach. Sometimes the newer streamlined coaches showed up. It wasn't really pretty compared to the E7-led Grand Rapids trains, but to me it was *my* passenger train, and if I heard it whistling for crossings approaching Muskegon Heights of a Sunday afternoon, I'd try to hurry Mom and Dad away from church to chase it down Airline Road towards Grand Haven. That's how we entertained ourselves in the pre-electronic age!
@ParrotGaming123 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!
@EntertainmentWorldz 3 жыл бұрын
great train video
@Duececoupe 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻
@NotJeremy_ 3 жыл бұрын
Dude your thumbnails are very nice!
@salemite 3 жыл бұрын
Big ups for using some Celeste OST tunes. Nice!
@vancepomerening4794 3 жыл бұрын
Very good report, thanks.
@SgtChip 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see a train revived and still going strong. Not a bad video, not bad at all.
@williamschlenger1518 3 жыл бұрын
My aunt used to take me to watch Pennsylvania steam from Long Branch to Asbury Park.No one runs to see boring diesel or electric.
@historybuff1812 3 жыл бұрын
Pere is pronounced like the fruit 'Pear' meaning 'Father' in French, it also means father in the Catholic sense like how English-speaking Catholics call priests 'Father.'
@TheWinnipegRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
7:38 The Amtrak Pee Market crash 13 years later Great video!
@Boypogikami132 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@discodave4190 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking into riding the Pere Marquette, but the Grand Rapids arrival and departure times are terrible (6:00 am departure to Chicago and 11:34 pm arrival from Chicago). It may be a scenic line, but a most of the scenery would be missed in the eastbound direction and some in the westbound direction unless one is traveling in the summer.
@Robbi496 Жыл бұрын
My own personal opinion is that many railroads simply threw in the towel in the mid 1950's and began to either let the passengers drain away or actively drove them away. My own opinion, but my opinion!
@angelacrawford3173 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice 👌 👍 👏 😀
@spartan117zm 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that Amtrak can pour money into new locomotives but yet are still running the same tired Amfleets/Horizons from 30+ years ago. I honestly think in the northeast at least they should’ve invested in some modern passenger cars to go with the Chargers. Or, if they really wanted to keep the older cars, they should’ve completely stripped and rebuilt the interiors. Train travel in the northeast is at least reasonably efficient, but, especially in the aftermath of this pandemic, I think they’re really going to need to give people a good reason to take a train again instead of staying in their cars. And I get the Avelia Liberty is supposed to be the new flagship and super nice on the inside, but let’s be honest, far more people take the Northeast Regionals than the high speed services, so maybe spending a little to make those nicer would’ve gone a long way.
@RandomMichiganGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Grand Rapids and take the train to Chicago often. Last month (January) I took the train down and they used the superliner cars. But in the train yard in Chicago they had some of the new passenger cars being moved by a switcher. They had Amtrak Midwest on them and I know Michigan wants to start using them soon. So it probably won't be much longer until the trains are the new coaches and engines only.
@SuperNevile 3 жыл бұрын
If the railways are electrified, then when people abandon ICEs and air travel due to "zero carbon" taxes, maybe, just maybe rail will once again become king.... :-)
@dknowles60 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperNevile where are you going to get the Megawatts from
@SuperNevile 2 жыл бұрын
@@dknowles60 where you usually do when you put your mind to it......
@dknowles60 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperNevile I see You failed Megawatts 101. Peak year for Us megawatts production 2007. hint in 2007 with 75% coal power the us made more megawatts in 2007 then china did in 2021. now that a lot of badly need coal power plants have been closed china now made more mega watts then the is did in 2021. in 2021 the us Made apx 25% less mega watts then the Us made in 2007. Hint Ga power is spending 24 Billion for 2400 megawatts for 2 Nuclear power Units. Power production is very costly . Cant be done
@Feraphic 3 жыл бұрын
A Yuru Camp clip in a video about the history of an American passenger train? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
@williamschlenger1518 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting.I never liked Amtrak.It was the end of American railroads.
@tommypetraglia4688 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Anemoia ... that Nostalgia for a time you’ve never known.
@error10571 2 жыл бұрын
Well,now I know where no: 1225s tourist cars came from
@willberestartingthischanne9984 3 жыл бұрын
Cool Video
@shawgmeinder8153 3 жыл бұрын
Neat video
@oakrail8100 3 жыл бұрын
Was doing school and saw this and I couldn't help myself
@jaysmith1408 3 жыл бұрын
Père Marquette, said as ‘pear’ or ‘pair’, French for father, get it? Father Marquette.
@OntarioTrafficMan 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was going to say this too. There's no "i" in Père.
@FDRsuite 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Père as in pear, not Pierre, and you either relish success or revel in it. There are others. Kudos for making this, but the subject deserves a little more attention to the voice-over so that we can enjoy the otherwise outstanding graphics without grimacing.
@0759trainz 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you used Mario 3D World music
@KiddBloo86 3 жыл бұрын
Train travel, one of the best ways to go!
@bostonrailfanner471 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@EvansRailroading1955 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Pere marquette ocomotive in n scale and I'm really hoping to make the 1946 pere Marquette in n scale prototype
@ironcityrailfan8467 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@prairierailproductions6737 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@mariebcfhs9491 3 жыл бұрын
you gotta love the E units
@Sf_sholder 3 жыл бұрын
American railroads: *buying streamlined trains* America: how about you give that steel to me
@ivangenov6782 3 жыл бұрын
They were at war, they needed that steel to build tanks, planes, ships, etc... How do you expect to fight a war with out enough military resources
@King--God 3 жыл бұрын
This was posted on my birthday
@JoyceLund 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@gustman9048 3 жыл бұрын
When metro north started out they had all contrail passenger engines and some cars and quite a few C&O coaches
@riderstrano783 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a video on either the Merchant’s limited or the Yankee clipper
@briansivley2001 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a look at The Hiawatha and Empire Builder please?
@mistermadmachine6311 3 жыл бұрын
So that’s how Chesapeake and Ohio F7s got those colors
@Handlesarestoopid 3 жыл бұрын
I had heard about the story of the NYC streamliner that got overshadowed by the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I read about it in a book about streamliner trains
@thekidfromcleveland3944 3 жыл бұрын
Was it the American Streamliner: Pre War Years by chance
@christopherjagodzinski8981 3 жыл бұрын
The Pere Marquette does not operate on BNSF. The 3rd railroad it operates on is actually Amtrak in Chicago Terminal.
@TheInterubranMan23 3 жыл бұрын
Per marquette e7 was beautiful diesel
@nate9331 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna get this for my layout
@jacobrzeszewski6527 3 жыл бұрын
6:20 YOU WEEB! I’m subscribing just because of that.
@TheTexasTrainMaster 3 жыл бұрын
I have a request for you could you possibly make a video about the Missouri Pacific Texas eagle and how Amtrak got the railroad name I live in Texas and I've always been curious about that and if you're going to use music make sure it's country or bluegrass that's the music of Texas always has been always will be and I'm glad you're making these videos I enjoy them thank you and God bless
@dlubbers619 Жыл бұрын
They should bring back service between Grand Rapids and Detroit.
@williamkeffer8234 3 жыл бұрын
I love how u drew this in the way that they would in the 20s, Art Deco, right?
@djcb4190 Жыл бұрын
Bring them on.
@thenostalgiaman 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he can do next about the Auto Train.
@Upguy-tj3gv 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a engines of Norfolk and western, or a documentary about 1218 or 611 or a loco, or maybe just the history on N&W
@Token_Nerd 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Pure Michigan Express.
@BNSFTrains10 2 ай бұрын
As of 2024 CSX Has introduced another new Heritage Unit this time in the Pere Marquette E7's Passenger Scheme numbered as CSX 1899 Repainted from ES44AH 3051 to honor the Pere Marquette as it is apart with CSX as it merged with the C&O soon into CSX
@F59PHI 3 жыл бұрын
HOW ARE THERE ONLY 11 VIEWS ON THIS VID
@nah_144 3 жыл бұрын
You seem to be early :)
@TheInterubranMan23 3 жыл бұрын
Not many people watch him
@spaceghost8995 3 жыл бұрын
NO BOOBS.
@northlanderdude 3 жыл бұрын
at 8:33... 6:30pm to 11:34pm is 5h and 4 minutes. at 8:42... 6am to 9:08am is 3h and 8 minutes.
@MegeGabe_Personal 3 жыл бұрын
Notification Squad, hell yeah
@Mcnibbus 3 жыл бұрын
Yay new vid
@WyanoPenna 3 жыл бұрын
amogus
@JoyceLund 3 жыл бұрын
Amogus
@Runboyrun05 3 жыл бұрын
Sus
@calbob750 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking Pere Marquette is pronounced like Pair Marquette. The Priest (Pere) Marquette. Saying Pierre Marquette means Peter Marquette. Sounds like pee air. An excellent video about the golden era of passenger service. I was lucky enough to ride Sant Fe’s El Capitain and Super Chief before they were totally absorbed into the Amtrak mediocrity. When you went to dine on those trains wearing a suit was not out of place. The food was well prepared and delicious. The peak of luxury in passenger train service. Stop me I’m getting nostalgic.
@pmrailfan7521 Жыл бұрын
Your absolutely correct, it is pronounced 'pair' or 'pare' Marquette. NOT 'pee-aire' Marquette. "Pere" means 'father' in French, saying 'pee-aire' ('Pierre') means 'Peter' in French - and isnt spelled "PERE". The explorer mentioned in the video - Jaques Marquette - was a Jesuit priest. This is how the railroad and this man tie together. It is common to call a priest... 'father'. His name wasnt father, it was Jaques. The railroad took his priestly name - "Father Marquette" (his title). Thus Pere Marquette. And it is pronounced so! Literally "Pare Marquette". So pretty much the whole video calls the railroad "Peter Marquette", not by its actual name. Tis ok, back when the PM was still alive (early 1900s), it passed thru 2 recieverships. The moniker it aquired then was "Poor Marquette". A lil more fyi about the name. 🙂 Lastly, something that would be a TIK TOK rage for sure now a days..... Robert Young also introduced 'No Tipping' on the Pere Marquette's (diner car services).
@CaptainJeau 3 жыл бұрын
Got to say this Amtrak really needs to invest in a train wash 😂 ever clip especially the supperliner coach’s are dirty and that’s everywhere
@ralphbalfoort2909 3 жыл бұрын
In the name Pere Marquette, Pere is pronounce "pair," not "peer,: and definitely not "pierre."" That's because Pere Marquette is French for "Father" Marquette.
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, AmtrakGuy, where did you get that Pere Marquette railroad footage from? I’m doing my own Engines of Amtrak-inspired series called Engines of the Pere Marquette, and have scrambled the internet only to get a handful of vintage footage of PM locomotives in the days of Steam for my series.
@pmrailfan7521 Жыл бұрын
Thats pretty much how ya have to do it. As we have reached the technology age more and more folks are pulling grandpa's reel to reel film footage out of the arks attic and converting them to digital. So you have to scour the net watching alot of whatever for a glimpse of the ever rare PM train. This video shows alot of 'magazine' ads (still shots) that are pretty common to find on the net. Theres some real good footage of the PM streamliner hidden in a C&O video here on KZfaq. Including live footage of Bob Young using a credit card in the PM diner car. I was actually doing the scavenging thing as mentioned, when i came across this video. Dont forget, the PM was one of the 'Van Sweringen' roads, so you will find traces of it when you sniff around C&O, B&O, Erie, NKP. Especially C&O for obvious reasons.
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